PipeChat Digest #887 - Thursday, May 27, 1999
 
Re: The Lost Chord
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
the lost chord......Reader's Digest version
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: the lost chord......Reader's Digest version
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
magnets for sale
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Fw: magnets for sale
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
[musiclassical] 26 MAY Almanac (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Re: Mixtures from the top
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
MacDowell Transcriptions
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: slippery benches............
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Radio Program
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: The Lost Chord
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
TAO/AGO's Magazine
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: mixtures from the top
  by <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
TAO/AGO MAGAZINE
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
A Good Book
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Radio Program
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: ZymbelStern
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Off topic, but...
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: Off topic, but...
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine
  by <ProOrgo48@aol.com>
Building the House of God (shouldn't be off-topic for organists!)
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
people pix
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Re: MacDowell Transcriptions
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: MacDowell Transcriptions
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: The Lost Chord From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:07:34 -0400 (EDT)     I have a wonderful recording of "The Lost Chord" on an album called "The Organ In Sanity and Madness". Memory is dusty, but as I recall it is sung by a men's chorus at, maybe Royal Albert Hall, and at one climactic point, as the organ and voices release, there is a cypher on a string pipe, which I think was silenced with gunfire! The recording is a hoot .. I must dig it out and dust it off.... and the turntable.... etc.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Trained or not, he'll always be his own dog to a degree. -- Carol Lee Benjamin   http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: the lost chord......Reader's Digest version From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:35:48 -0500   In the RD version, did they finally find the chord? I heard that they left you hanging with a 6sus. chord.   Jon Bertschinger    
(back) Subject: Re: the lost chord......Reader's Digest version From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:29:24 -0500       jon wrote:   > In the RD version, did they finally find the chord? I heard that they > left you hanging with a 6sus. chord.   Can't honestly say at the moment; I am "in transition between the Chicago and Dallas areas; some things are one place, some the other, and the only constant is that whichever place I am, and whatever it is I need, I consistently find it is at the other end. :-).    
(back) Subject: magnets for sale From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:01:09 -0500   I have the following sets of magnets for sale. Please e-mail me directly and make an offer for either or both sets. Packing is free, shipping you pay.     1) 19 Reisner E.P. magnets 150 ohm, removed from a newer chest and in excellent shape. Magnets were immediately wrapped in individual plastic bags. All should work, but of course there is always that chance that one won't.   2) 8 Austin magnets for Universal Wind Chest actions. Brand new, never used and in the original box from Hartford Ct.   I can send a pic on request.   Thanks Robert Eversman Mineral Point WI 53565    
(back) Subject: Fw: magnets for sale From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:18:45 -0500   oops, I forgot to leave my address, it is highnote@mhtc.net       I have the following sets of magnets for sale. Please e-mail me directly and make an offer for either or both sets. Packing is free, shipping you pay.     1) 19 Reisner E.P. magnets 150 ohm, removed from a newer chest and in excellent shape. Magnets were immediately wrapped in individual plastic bags. All should work, but of course there is always that chance that one won't.   2) 8 Austin magnets for Universal Wind Chest actions. Brand new, never used and in the original box from Hartford Ct.   I can send a pic on request.   Thanks Robert Eversman Mineral Point WI 53565    
(back) Subject: [musiclassical] 26 MAY Almanac (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:50:47 -0700 (MST)       ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ R. A. Campbell, KUAT Communications-Modern Languages Building P.O.Box 210067 University of Arizona, Tucson AZ 85721   ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: AcoustiCDigest editors <acoustic_digest@yahoo.com> Reply-To: musiclassical@onelist.com To: musiclassical@onelist.com Subject: [musiclassical] 26 MAY Almanac   From: AcoustiCDigest editors <acoustic_digest@yahoo.com>     1601 Death of Italian composer Costanzo PORTA in Cremona 1696 Death of German composer Heinrich SCHWEMMER in Nuremberg 1893 Birth of English composer and conductor Sir Eugene GOOSENS III, in London. (Father and Grandfather also conductors and composers share same name.d- 13 JUN 1962 1898 Birth of American composer, pianist and conductor Ernst BACON in Chicago. d-Orinda, CA; 16 MAR 1990 1904 Birth of French pianist Vlado PERLEMUTER 1914 In , Paris, by Ballet Russe, FP of Stravinsky's "Le Rosignol" 1924 Death of Irish-American composer-cellist Victor Herbert in NYC at age 65. 1926 Birth of Austrian-born British composer Joseph HOROVITZ 1938 Birth of Canadian soprano Teresa STRATAS (Anistasia Strataki) in Toronto. 1938 Birth of American composer and pianist William BOLCOM in Seattle.   1948 Birth of Iranian conductor and teacher Alexander RAHBARI in Varamin, May 26, 1948. He received his initial interest in music from his family. He received his formal training in music at the Teheran National Conservatory and then studied conducting at the Vienna Music Academy.   1958 Birth of English composer Howard GOODALL.   === GET our PLAYlists: http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/alm/lb.html AcoustiCDigest/Radio= P.O.Box 16221 Tucson AZ 85732 Music Directories: http://AcoustiCD.com CD sales: http://mycdstore.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com     ------------------------------------------------------------------------ With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily... http://www.onelist.com ....ONElist is THE place where the world talks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ compact disc discounts comparison shopping at:http://mycdstore.com and visit the Internet Classical Music Directory index at http://acousticd.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures from the top From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:48:19 +0100   >Compton is known to us on this side of the pond as a builder who knows how to >handle such things, and "judicious unification" as well ... isn't Temple >Church's organ a big Compton unit organ? > >Cheers, > >Bud >     The rest of the organ is a waste of space, but the 32' reed it good!!! There is also a small 2m unit organ behind the west end choir stalls, it looks tiny, about 3 ranks, and when you get to the console you find that it is actually about 3 ranks - a unit organ!!! Although it is quite nice.   Richard    
(back) Subject: MacDowell Transcriptions From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:34:58 -0700   I'm looking for volumes 1 and 3 of a set published by Schmidt in 1913 (!). Someone very graciously found me a copy of volume 2, but I'm still hunting volumes 1 and 3. GBOrgan says they're not listed in any of his catalogs ... I imagine they're LONG out of print.   Cheers,   Bud   P.S. - No, I'm NOT gonna play "To A Wild Rose" at Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament (grin).    
(back) Subject: Re: slippery benches............ From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:23:25 PDT   OHHHHH MY!!!!! Such language :0 Your sentiments are appreciated, but please don't perpetuate bad language and taste:{   Rev. E.D.   >From: dougcampbell@juno.com   >Also the "person" that referred to you as having your "brains in your >ass" MUST have meant that you HAVE more brains in your ass then he has >between his eardrums !!!!!!!! ;-o > >Have a good day and remember that MOST of us appreciate your posts ! >Douglas A.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Radio Program From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:49:13 -0400   To:Bonnie Beth Derby (and anyone else in the Syracuse Area)   >Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' >WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, >Watertown   I can receive this channel (in Watertown) if I drive around while tuning it in. When is it on? I would be really interested in listening to it.   Thanks, Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: The Lost Chord From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:53:20 -0400   >Just saw and heard Diane Bish play this piece (Joy of Music) on the >Ruffatti organ in Fort Lauderdale. While quite good, it just didn't >seem >to build up to the full-organ power as did the old Jesse Crawford >78-rpm >version (or at least as I remember it and try to duplicate it) - or am >I >enhansing this old record in my memory as I haven't heard it in at >least >30-years or more.....   Television usually turns the volume up high for soft sounds and turns the volume down for loud sounds. So, if you were really in the CRP church when she played this, your ears would probably be ringing for a little while.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: TAO/AGO's Magazine From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:05:34 -0400   Does any one get the TAO? If so, please e-mail me. I have something to show you.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: mixtures from the top From: dougcampbell@juno.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:51:02 -0400       On Tue, 25 May 1999 00:21:02 -0400 (EDT) cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) writes: >>...the addition of the Schlicker to the E.M. >> Skinner at 1st Congo, LA, (c. 1968??) was a >> stroke of genius! After that addition, the >> resulting organ comfortably covers both >> orchestral/romantic AND baroque/early >> classic with aplomb! > >When two separate instruments are made playable from the same >console, >do they become "one" instrument. Seems to me that the Schlicker and >Skinner organs are two distinct instruments which do what they do >well and are built according to differing principles. They only happen to >be connected to common consoles. > >bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   I think that the Organ(s) at Trinity, Boston HAVE become one ! The Massive E. M. Skinner of the 1920s in the Gallery and the 40+ rank 1960s A-S in the front have been beautifully "merged" into one complete instrument. Although neither instrument speaks exactly as it did when new - a series of subtle changes in voicing have left the instrument in complete agreement with itself. The E. M. still sounds like an E. M and the A-S is still an A-S, but, unlike P.D.Q. Bach's ensembles, they are NOT "Unfriendly instruments".     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:07:27 -0400 (EDT)     >Does any one get the TAO? If so, please > e-mail me. I have something to show you. Got mine today. OK! I'll bite? Whatchagottashome??? ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Trained or not, he'll always be his own dog to a degree. -- Carol Lee Benjamin   http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine From: OrganMD@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:21:07 EDT   I think that most of us get TAO....I do.   Bill Hesterman  
(back) Subject: TAO/AGO MAGAZINE From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:00:40 -0400   I believe that Jason Comet will point out his photo in this month's TAO - page 28 with the St. Lawrence Chapter POE. Great photo Jason!   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com  
(back) Subject: A Good Book From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:05:52 -0400 (EDT)   Friends, I am working my way through a most delightful book that I want to recommend for your summer reading and refreshment. John Bertalot's "Immediately Practical Tips for the Choral Director", published by Augsburg. Many of you will probably already be familiar with it; if so, please forgive my outdated info. I have learned so many wonderful "new" ideas and I have been pleased to read the author's affirmation of many of the things I do already. Please forgive the double post, if you get it. Peace to you. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Radio Program From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:10:35 -0400   Hi Jason,   ``Orgelwerke'' is on Sunday 8PM to 9PM ``Choral Traditions'' is on Saturday 8PM to 9:30PM   BBD ---------- > From: Jason D. Comet <bombarde8@juno.com> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Radio Program > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 6:49 AM > > To:Bonnie Beth Derby (and anyone else in the Syracuse Area) > > >Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' > >WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, > >Watertown > > I can receive this channel (in Watertown) if I drive around while tuning > it in. When is it on? I would be really interested in listening to it. > > Thanks, > Jason Comet > bombarde8@juno.com > |\ Organist/Choir Director > | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ > O ~20 member choir > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: ZymbelStern From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:09:10 -0400 (EDT)   This is especially appropriate (even though we're making light of it), because the term "NAVE" is used because the great meeting place looks like an upside down boat. Cheers, sailors. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Off topic, but... From: Pepehomer@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:12:31 EDT   I couldn't think of a better way to communicate with churches around the country other than this. I am in the process of writing an article for our church's newsletter about the need to build a new church. The problem is that 40 years ago Lutherans gathered in Rome, GA and built a chapel, with plans to build a larger church soon after. Well, here we are 40 years later, and no larger building. The congregation can't grow because the people like to worship in a large group, but the group can't be larger than 100 people or else it's horribly crammed (not me, though - I have a bench to myself! hahaha) Anyway, have any of you recently been involved with a church that has "upgraded"? If so, did it attract more members or did the attendance basically stay the same? Also, what were other affects? (positive or negative) Since it's off topic, you can reply to Pepehomer@aol.com Thanks for your help! Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: Off topic, but... From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:16:39 -0400 (EDT)   Sir, one suggestion I would stress to you and your church: Bathe your entire concept and project (start to finish) in prayer. If God is in it, your church will prosper. If God is absent, you will have a lovely elephant (you pick the color). --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine From: ProOrgo48@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:33:17 EDT   Hello Jason,   What would you like to show me?   Dale  
(back) Subject: Building the House of God (shouldn't be off-topic for organists!) From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:32:52 -0700   Having wrestled with a building committee (and an architect with the ability of a tele-tubby [with apologies to the tele-tubby!] ... "DUH! What's an apse? DUH!" .... no kidding! ) for the better part of two years, I'd say the following:   First of all, take your board or your building committee or whoever on a church growth retreat and make them study the account of the building of Solomon's temple IN DETAIL. Building a HOUSE FOR GOD is an awesome responsibility. I don't know if the LCMS books still have the propers for the Feast of the Dedication of a Church, but the Introit runs: "How DREADFUL is this place! This is none other than the HOUSE OF GOD and GATE OF HEAVEN" ... and the Gradual: "This temple is a mystery beyond all telling". Start with a prayerful consideration of THAT, rather than the "bottom line", and you should do just fine.   On a practical level, most church growth professionals say you can expect a "bump" of 1/4 to 1/3 in your total membership when you move into a new building.   And plan for a pipe organ from day ONE, even if you don't see ANY possibility of getting one. It's a LOT cheaper than having to go back and build chambers, reinforce floors, etc. after the building's built. And don't forget conduit runs .... you can use 'em for the wiring for the electronic organ's speakers in the meantime.   And in reference to my first paragraph, find a LUTHERAN architect who GOES TO CHURCH and KNOWS the Lutheran service. Then go look at every church he's ever built. And be sure he attends some of YOUR services BEFORE you engage him.   This vogelgesanger we've got hasn't a CLUE what goes on in our service. He's barely stuck his nose IN the present church. Fortunately we've decided to build a multi-purpose room first ... he WON'T be the architect of the main church if there's breath left in MY body (grin)!   Good luck! It takes LOTS of PRAYER, and PATIENCE!!!     Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: people pix From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:42:06 -0500   How come I never see any of youse-guys picture in the Diapason..........HUH??   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Re: TAO/AGO's Magazine From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:37:13 PDT   I get the TAO. What's up?     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: MacDowell Transcriptions From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 03:03:42 -0500       Bud/burgie wrote:   > I'm looking for volumes 1 and 3 of a set published by Schmidt in 1913 > (!). Someone very graciously found me a copy of volume 2, but I'm still > hunting volumes 1 and 3. GBOrgan says they're not listed in any of his > catalogs ... I imagine they're LONG out of print. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > P.S. - No, I'm NOT gonna play "To A Wild Rose" at Benediction of the > Blessed Sacrament (grin).   This is what I would do if I were looking for these volumes, probably in roughly this order:   1. Contact your local public library, and ask them to try to get them via inter-library loan. Even if this is unsuccessful, I would if you haven't found them after six or nine months, I would ask again. I have had luck on the second request when the first was dry.   2. Try the music department of the nearest large city library in person; Chicago and Minneapolis have music departments in their central libraries which may have these volumes. IIRC correctly, Schmidt was a Boston based publisher, so I would write or phone (or these days, e-mail) the music librarian at the main public library in that city, for certain.   3. The music library of the nearest large university with a substantial music department: Northwestern in Chicago,   4. Check with a large, long established music store which deals print music. Odds are, someone there will be able to tell you if anyone still controlls the rights to any of the Schmidt catalog. Whoever does may be able to provide you an photocopy of their archival copy (if they will).   5. Write the Library of Congress, Music Department. If these works were copyrighted (as I assume they were), there should be a copy on file there. .. 6. Check the local public libaries in some of the "smaller" cities around you; sometimes their music holdings will surprise you. As an example, there is a collection of music in the Aurora, IL public library that is considerably larger than one might expect to see in a library of its size. Seems a number of years ago, the private collection(s) of a music teacher or two were donated to the library by their heirs.   7. Call a used book dealer in your area and ask him if he deals in print music. If he does, go in and see what he has; while there, ask him if he knows anyone else in your area. Let him/her know what you are looking for; someone may bring it in tomorrow, or he can get with his network and see if anyone else has it.   8. Check with Newberry Library in Chicago.   This should bet you started.        
(back) Subject: Re: MacDowell Transcriptions From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 03:22:33 -0500   Noel Stoutenburg wrote:   IIRC, MacDowell was a Scot, so I would also try the British Museum, even though the music was published in the US. I found that a piece of sheet music published by an American Composer setting words of English origin was included in their holdings, even though the work was published in the U.S. by G. Schirmer.