PipeChat Digest #1138 - Monday, November 1, 1999
 
An "organic" Halloween!
  by "tgregory@speeddial.net" <tgregory@speeddial.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Ex-nurse organists
  by "Barbara Eppley" <beppley@acorn.net>
Re: An "organic" Halloween!
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Felix Hell Concert - Cross Posted
  by <Devon3000@aol.com>
Felix Hell
  by "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com>
Re: Felix Hell
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
Noisy prelude
  by "Charles E. Peery" <cpeery19@idt.net>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by <Jason418@aol.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Some Picks for Trumpet & Organ
  by "Sue Smith" <SueSmith@Imagine.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: organ comics
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Performance anxiety revisited
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
RE: Performance anxiety revisited
  by "Ruth" <theraven@sympatico.ca>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
 


(back) Subject: An "organic" Halloween! From: tgregory@speeddial.net <tgregory@speeddial.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 99 06:36:32 -0500   Bob Hill and his new wife, Betty, were vacationing in Europe, and as it happens, they were near Transylvania. They were driving a rental car along a rather deserted highway. It was late, and raining very hard. Bob could barely see ten feet in front of the car. Suddenly, the car skids out of control. Bob attempts to control the car, but to no avail. The car swerves and smashes into a tree.   Moments later, Bob shakes his head to clear the fog. Dazed, he looks over at the passenger seat and sees his new wife unconscious, with her head bleeding. Despite the rain and unfamiliar countryside, Bob knows he has to carry her to the nearest phone.   Bob carefully picks up his wife and begins trudging down the road. After a short while, he sees a light. He heads towward the light, which is coming from an old, large house. He approaches the door and knocks. A minute passes. A small hunched man opens the door. Bob immediately blurts out, "Hello, my name is Bob Hill, and this is my wife, Betty. We've been in a terrible accident, and my wife has been seriously hurt. May I please use your phone?"   "I'm sorry", replies the hunchback, "but we don't have a phone. My Master is a doctor, come in and I will get him."   Bob brings his wife in. An elegant man comes down the stairs.   "I'm afraid my assistant may have misled you. I am not a medical doctor; I am a scientist. However, it is many miles to the nearest clinic, and I have a basic knowledge of medical training. I will see what I can do for you. Igor, bring them down to the laboratory."   With that, Igor picks up Betty and carries her downstairs, with Bob following closely. Igor places Betty on a table in the lab. Bob collapses from exhaustion and his own injuries, so Igor places Bob on an adjoining table. After a brief examination, Igor's master looks worried. He says, "Things are very serious, Igor. Prepare a transfusion". Igor and his master work feverishly, but to no avail. Bob and Betty Hill are no more.   The Hills' deaths upset Igor's master greatly. Wearily, he climbs the steps to his conservatory, which houses his pipe organ. For it is here that he has always found solace. He begins to play, and a stirring, almost haunting melody fills the house.   Meanwhile, Igor is still in the lab tidying up. As the music fills the lab, his eyes catch movement, and he notices the fingers on Betty Hill's hands begin to twitch. Stunned, he watches as Bob's arm begins to rise. He is further amazed as Betty sits straight up.   Unable to contain himself, he dashes up the stairs to the conservatory, and he bursts in and shouts to his master:   "Master, Master, The Hills are alive with the sound of music."  
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:49 -0600   Rebekah Ingram wrote: > > > Having the people naked would have the additional advantage of = reducing > > the amount of sound absorbing material in the church and improving the > > acoustics ... :-) > > Only YOU would think of -that-, John! ;)   Well, actually I can't claim originality for it. At our last parish in Pennsylvania, the organist was once giving a recital and had all the pew cushions removed for the occasion to help the sound. Introducing the recital, the Rector observed this and added, "And we should be grateful if people would the situation further by taking off all their clothes and removing them from the building." Needless to say, nobody took him up on it.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Ex-nurse organists From: Barbara Eppley <beppley@acorn.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 99 8:10:45 EST   Nursing !!! barb > > > >How about: Moving from a relatively > > high-stress occupation to a relatively > > low-stress one? > Good idea! Which is the relatively low-stress occupation? > > >There >are< some things that money just can't > > buy. > Yes. You must get used to those after you've switched to church > music!! ;-) > > > bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     -- The Eppley Family beppley@acorn.net lilkate06@aol.com blondi4692@aol.com Yrexlncy@aol.com Happy Comminicating!                                       q   x                                 The Eppley's: beppley@acorn.net,lilkate06@aol.com,blondi4692@aol.com,Yrexlncy@aol.com, smtp:eppleyg@bemis.com    
(back) Subject: Re: An "organic" Halloween! From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:45:43 EST   In a message dated 10/31/99 5:36:13 AM Central Standard Time, tgregory@speeddial.net writes:   << eanwhile, Igor is still in the lab tidying up. As the music fills the lab, his eyes catch movement, and he notices the fingers on Betty Hill's hands =   begin to twitch. Stunned, he watches as Bob's arm begins to rise. He is =   further amazed as Betty sits straight up. Unable to contain himself, he dashes up the stairs to the conservatory, and he bursts in and shouts to his master: "Master, Master, The Hills are alive with the sound of music." >> What a hoot!. This made my day.   Later, Phil L.  
(back) Subject: Felix Hell Concert - Cross Posted From: Devon3000@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:59:18 EST   This Friday, at 7:30 p.m., at Christ Church of Oak Brook, Oak Brook = Illinois.   Felix Hell, 14-year old organist from Germany, currently on full = scholarship to Julliard, performs for about 300 middle and high school students in the =   early afternoon also.   Tickets are $10 for adults, $5 for students 13 years and older, with 12 = and under admitted free. Tickets will be available at the door, or can be reserved for pickup by calling Gerrie Kramer at 630-654-1882.   I hope to see some of you there. The organ is Austin, 1978/80/82/86, 80 ranks, 4,444 pipes, four manuals, with MIDI. If you haven't heard the new =   acoustics since the wooden flooring was put in the front, you should = really enjoy this concert!   Devon Hollingsworth  
(back) Subject: Felix Hell From: "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:23:37 -0000   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BF23DD.D05D8E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear List,   I am not familiar with Organist Felix Hell. =3D20   I would like to know more if anyone can help me out.   Cheers,   PA. paul.p.austin@talk21.com   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BF23DD.D05D8E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am not familiar with Organist Felix = =3D Hell.&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I would like to know more if anyone = can =3D help me=3D20 out.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>PA.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:paul.p.austin@talk21.com">paul.p.austin@talk21.com</A></FO= =3D NT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BF23DD.D05D8E40--    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:45:36 -0500   http://listserv.albany.edu/cgi-bin/wa?S2=3Dpiporg-l&q=3Dfelix+hell&s=3D&f= =3D&a=3D&b=3D   There has been much written about this young organist on PIPORG-L. The link above will take you to the posts. At 14 years old, his musicianship is on a par with the best in the field.   Stan Lowkis   > Paul Austin wrote: > > Dear List, > > I am not familiar with Organist Felix Hell. > > I would like to know more if anyone can help me out. > > Cheers, > > PA. > paul.p.austin@talk21.com  
(back) Subject: Noisy prelude From: "Charles E. Peery" <cpeery19@idt.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:11:10 -0400   Hey, gang,   I'm subbing pretty much for a well-to-do Methodist church which is without an organist. Having heard five people audition (I was not one of them), they offered it to their top choice, who declined. Now they're after me to take it.   One thing that bugs me, though, is that during the prelude the people in = the congregation are SO LOUD, I can hardly concentrate. This morning a man across the nave from me and about six rows back leaned forward to say something to a lady three rows in front of him, and his voice was so loud that I heard every word and jumped. I swear I thought he was yelling at = me. Worse yet, I was so rattled I played Webern instead of Rheinberger for about a measure. I guess it'll be good for me to learn not to lose focus, but...   Yeah, there's a notice in the bulletin that the "Prelude is an invitation = to silent mediation and preparation for worship", but it sounds more like a convention mixer out there... and maybe it's just the peculiar acoustics = of this sanctuary, but I can REALLY HEAR EVERYTHING.   Anything that any of you have done to modify behavior in a case like this? =   I mean, I can always just play louder or choose more aggressive preludes.   Chuck Peery Cincinnati  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Jason418@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:17:59 EST   Take heart, Chuck. The louder you play, the louder they will talk. Know from experience.   Jason418  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:21:31 EST   In a message dated 10/31/1999 4:15:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpeery19@idt.net writes:   << I'm subbing pretty much for a well-to-do Methodist church which is = without an organist. Having heard five people audition (I was not one of them), they offered it to their top choice, who declined. Now they're after me = to take it. One thing that bugs me, though, is that during the prelude the people in = the congregation are SO LOUD, I can hardly concentrate. This morning a man across the nave from me and about six rows back leaned forward to say something to a lady three rows in front of him, and his voice was so loud that I heard every word and jumped. I swear I thought he was yelling at = me. Worse yet, I was so rattled I played Webern instead of Rheinberger for about a measure. I guess it'll be good for me to learn not to lose = focus, but... Yeah, there's a notice in the bulletin that the "Prelude is an invitation = to silent mediation and preparation for worship", but it sounds more like a convention mixer out there... and maybe it's just the peculiar acoustics = of this sanctuary, but I can REALLY HEAR EVERYTHING. Anything that any of you have done to modify behavior in a case like = this? I mean, I can always just play louder or choose more aggressive preludes. Chuck Peery >>     In my church, also Methodist, I play about 15 minutes of quiet hymns. = Then the pastor comes forward and goes over the announcements and sits down. I then play the real prelude, and the acolytes light the candles. This way = the congregation has their happy chatting time, the worship does not contain secular announcements, and the prelude is really listened to. It also = means, however, that the prelude better be a good one!!   Vicki Ceruti, Organist Center Moriches UMC  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:05 -0500     > Anything that any of you have done to modify behavior in a case like = this? > I mean, I can always just play louder or choose more aggressive = preludes.   Methodists seem to be particularly noisy for some reason. Maybe it's just because they're so laid back. In any case, my mother had the same problem when she was an organist for them. I recall her putting a small comic in = the bulletin (or "program" ;)). It showed a woman standing in front of a group of people sitting in pews, with organ pipes in the background. She was holding a shotgun and had a very agitated look on her face. The caption = read "Irma finally finds away to get the congregation to stop talking for the prelude."   Hey, it could work....   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:48:43   At 04:11 PM 10/31/1999 -0400, you wrote:   >Anything that any of you have done to modify behavior in a case like this?= =20 >I mean, I can always just play louder or choose more aggressive preludes.   While not condoning the raucous behavior in the nave, I'd say use the "opportunity" to hone your skills at tuning out extranious noise while performing. Everybody's had the problem with some inveterate cougher or sneezer (or worse...pffft) during the quietest parts of a recital piece or voluntary...it's going to happen, like it or not. Best that you be conditioned to ignore such outside sources of interference and concentrate on your own performance.   My 2=A2 worth...   DeserTboB  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:27:32 -0600   >Methodists seem to be particularly noisy for some reason. Maybe it's just >because they're so laid back. In any case, my mother had the same problem >when she was an organist for them. I recall her putting a small comic in = the >bulletin (or "program" ;)). It showed a woman standing in front of a = group >of people sitting in pews, with organ pipes in the background. She was >holding a shotgun and had a very agitated look on her face. The caption = read >"Irma finally finds away to get the congregation to stop talking for the >prelude." > >Hey, it could work.... > >-Rebekah   Rebekah   If you can find a copy of that comic I will be glad to put it on the PipeChat Web Site for everyone to enjoy and maybe use.   David   **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:22:47 -0800   At my church (Baptist) we have a display of large Tibetan horns right at = the door to the sanctuary... there is a sign on them saying "As you enter the doors of the sanctuary, worship has begun, please observe silence." I = play fifteen minutes of preludes prior to the 11 o'clock service. The minister usually enters with me and takes his place. I have played here for two years and have never had a problem of noise. The ushers at the door also reinforce the idea that worship has begun with the preludes. It is a wonderful situation and makes me plan my music with a lot of care as I = know every note will be heard.   Sand Lawn      
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:29:56 EST   In a message dated 10/31/99 4:15:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpeery19@idt.net writes:   << Anything that any of you have done to modify behavior in a case like = this? I mean, I can always just play louder or choose more aggressive preludes. >> Or just stop and wait for them to shut up. That can be more telling than trying to drown out the din!   I've been subbing for several weeks for Presbyterians who have incredibly fine church manners when it comes to listening and who also sing up a = storm on the hymns! What a refreshing change!   Dudel  
(back) Subject: Some Picks for Trumpet & Organ From: "Sue Smith" <SueSmith@Imagine.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:08:54 -0500   From time to time I notice that people inquire about trumpet & organ. Here are a few things I have located and selected for our college student trumpeter for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I had to type it up, so thought = I would include publication titles and publishers for the benefit of all:   PRELUDE/ POSTLUDE / Bourree (from Aria and Bourree) by G. F. Handel arr. Bernard Fitzgerald (Theodore Presser Co. 1965). Moves along, but I think = it will be easy and fun for most trumpet players.   HYMN/ Come Ye Thankful, Raise the Strain (St. Kevin) - Interlude and = Trumpet Descant from "Hymn Finales for Trumpet and Organ" by Lani Smith (Lorenz 1997)   Now Thank We All our God - From Cantata No. 79 J.S. Bach arr. E. Power = Biggs (Mercury Music 1952). The familiar arrangement. Trumpet part is very simple, but it sounds good when the organ/carousel(!) part is playing = around it. Note: Trumpet part is for C Trumpet.   Now Sing We, Now Rejoice (In Dulci Jubilo) - from Eight Intradas & = Chorales for Organ & Trumpet by Harald Rohlig (Concordia 1959). Bouncy and bright.   HYMN / or POSTLUDE / What Star is This that Beams So Bright - Puer Nobis Nascitur - Trumpet Descant from "Hymn Finales for Trumpet and Organ" by = Lani Smith (Lorenz 1997). (Would be good for 12/26 or Jan. 2)   - Henry Purcell, Voluntary in C Major - from Purcell | Ceremonial Music = for Organ with Optional Trumpets arr. E. Power Biggs. (Mercury 1946)   - Three Baroque Trumpet Tunes arr. for Organ and Trumpet by S. Drummond = Wolf (Morning Star 1997) - Wm. Boyce (Trumpet Tune from First Voluntary in D), John Stanley (Trumpet Tune from Voluntary in D), Giuseppi Torelli (Trumpet Tune from Concerto in D). Nice arrangements, move along, not too difficult, not too long. = Good for preludes or postludes for any festive occasion.   S.D.G. Sue Smith   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Susan K. Smith, Organist & Webmaster Avon Congregational Church Avon, CT Austin 2M/8R www.avon-church.org www.smith-lawfirm.com suesmith@smith-lawfirm.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:12:21 -0800   There are two ways of looking at this ... on the one hand, perhaps the fellowship of the gathering Christian community IS more important than having a prelude. On the other hand, maybe they need to be taught the sense of the sacred ... have the entrance of the minister, the call to worship, and THEN a short prelude.   Cheers,   Bud   PS - we have the opposite problem ... you can't GET Episcopalians to open their mouths in church, PARTICULARLY for the HYMNS (grin). They don't call us God's Frozen People for nothing (evil grin).      
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:26:57 -0500   > If you can find a copy of that comic I will be glad to put it on the > PipeChat Web Site for everyone to enjoy and maybe use.   Let me see if Lee Johnston has it. I haven't talked to my mother since = May, and I doubt she still has it anyways. :) I will let you know!   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:20:37 -0600   Charles, I have had that problem too for several years - it is a function = of your priest or minister, I believe. When I first started, we had a really strong priest who believed that the prelude was a time to be quiet, = meditate and worship, and enforced that through his actions and those of his = servers. Now the priest we have is a poor old soul who is the only center of his universe, and doesn't care, and is even jealous if he thinks someone other than himself, even God, is in the limelight.   It is extremely hard to concentrate and to do a wonderful job for the Lord in a noisy place. Many times I pick preludes that allow for variance in volume - people will begin talking louder and louder, and suddenly I'm = soft and they are shouting in church, much to their chagrin (unless they are = deaf anyway and can't tell the difference). If people are not sure when you = are changing, they just might think twice about their own volume. Howells' music seems to work well for that, building in character and volume to a crescendo, then trailing off to nothing - some great transcendant stuff.   If you obtain some really good advice, please share it with me!   Regards,   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:22:53 -0600   You know, there was a cartoon in the New Yorker in the last few weeks - a couple was leaving the Metropolitan Opera House, and the woman said, "The music was so loud I couldn't hear myself talking."   Regards,   Glenda Sutton        
(back) Subject: Re: organ comics From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:11:31 -0500 (EST)   That is found in an organist's calendar, that I've seen advertised in TAO from time to time. The publisher is in Connecticut, I believe. Unfortunately, my TAOs are at church, not here. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Performance anxiety revisited From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:43:34 -0600   I experienced some anxiety tonight - taping the rehearsal was a real = bipolar affair (lots of ups, lots of downs). I have decided to buy bananas and Prozac for the entire audience next week, then I won't need any myself.   Does anyone have any anecdotal information (for program notes) re Vaughan Williams' "Rhosymedre" or "Prelude on 'Song 13'"? I told myself when = first planning this event that I needed some music by "my man" in it, and after tonight, I have decided to make one of these a possible alternative to one of the bears currently on the program, just in case all my work goes to = hell in a handbasket during practice this week. That means waiting to print = the program until the last minute, of course.   Your kind assistance is as always much appreciated.   Hope Randy Runyon's recital went extremely well this afternoon.   Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:48:48 -0500   Bud wrote: >we have the opposite problem ... you can't GET >Episcopalians to open their mouths in church, PARTICULARLY >for the HYMNS (grin). They don't call us God's Frozen People >for nothing (evil grin).   Now, Bud, I thought it was the Presbyterians who are called the "frozen chosen?"   I really do like the part about being an Episcopalian: "do everything, but do it in moderation." Or is that the Presbyterians, too?   My chiropractor said to me just the other day he finally realized why so many charismaniacs were turning to some of the Anglican denominations. He told me it was just because they lovvvvvved to get dressed up in those fancy robes! I don't know about that, for sure.   Have a fun week,   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:06:52 -0500 (EST)   Noisy preludes are part and parcel of our lot. One of my parishioners recommends that I play the chimes just before I begin.   Our choir processes in during the prelude nowadays. Today I noticed that once the choir gets into place in the chancel, the congregation quiets down pretty well. I'm not sure why, but hey, I ain't complainin.   --NEil    
(back) Subject: RE: Performance anxiety revisited From: "Ruth" <theraven@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:32:30 -0500   I have decided to buy bananas and Prozac for the entire audience next week, then I won't need any myself.   Glenda, I absolutely love this solution..what a brilliant idea. :)   Ruth    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:51:22 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 31-Oct-99 Re: Noisy prelude by "Dr. Darryl = Miller"@safa > I really do like the part about being an Episcopalian: "do everything, = but > do it in moderation."   As with the rector who announced, "We should repent a bit, and be saved as it were, or we might be damned to a certain extent." Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: Evelyn Rowe <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:16:36 -0500   At 10:51 PM 10/31/1999 -0500, Stanley E. Yoder wrote: >Excerpts from mail: 31-Oct-99 Re: Noisy prelude by "Dr. Darryl = Miller"@safa >> I really do like the part about being an Episcopalian: "do everything, = but >> do it in moderation." > >As with the rector who announced, "We should repent a bit, and be saved >as it were, or we might be damned to a certain extent."   Aw, c'mon, St. Paul himself, in the translation used in the Bell Anthem, said, "Let your moderation be known unto all men."   My own favorite one-liner: "An Episcopalian will do anything for the love of God, as long as it isn't tacky." Evie   mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:27:22 -0600   Here is an extract from the address of the Rev. John Newte at the opening of the Christian Smith organ of 1696 at St. Peter's Church, Tiverton, Devon, England*:   "[The organ] may play taking some lessons or decent flourish or other by itself, which goes by the names of voluntaries. This is before the service when people are taking their places in order that it may lead to a civil deportment and behaviour ... It may also cover the indecent noise which is too often made by the opening and clapping fast of pew doors (a reason why ancient seats in church had no doors to them) and the raucous hawkings and unnecessary coughing and spitting which are made by the people."   The passage siuggests that the WHOLE PURPOSE of having voluntaries in church is to cover up the noise. Is your congregation spitting a lot? If not, I would suggest you are unusually lucky <g>   John Speller.   P.S. The church where I grew up did, incidentally, have doors to the pews.   *This organ is believed to have been the first instrument on which a transcription of the wedding march from Mendelssohn's "A Midsummer Night's Dream" was played at a wedding (1844). It was replaced by Willis in the 1860s.