PipeChat Digest #1139 - Monday, November 1, 1999
 
RE: Noisy prelude
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
RE: Noisy prelude
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
RE: Performance anxiety revisited
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
RE: Noisy prelude
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
Re: Noisy prelude
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: RE: Noisy prelude From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:59:18 -0000   A few weeks of silence should do the trick!   Bud's approach is probably the most diplomatic..     Tim   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Bud/Burgie > Sent: 01 November 1999 01:12 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Noisy prelude > > > There are two ways of looking at this ... on the one hand, > perhaps the fellowship of the gathering Christian community > IS more important than having a prelude. On the other hand, > maybe they need to be taught the sense of the sacred ... > have the entrance of the minister, the call to worship, and > THEN a short prelude. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > PS - we have the opposite problem ... you can't GET > Episcopalians to open their mouths in church, PARTICULARLY > for the HYMNS (grin). They don't call us God's Frozen People > for nothing (evil grin). > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: RE: Noisy prelude From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:01:27 -0000   During both the televised funeral of Cardinal Hume from Westminster Cathedral, and also the Royal Wedding, the commentators insisted on = talking when there was any music (sung or played; realy important details such as the colour of the hats etc!   TimBW   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Glenda > Sent: 01 November 1999 02:23 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Noisy prelude > > > You know, there was a cartoon in the New Yorker in the last few weeks - = a > couple was leaving the Metropolitan Opera House, and the woman said, = "The > music was so loud I couldn't hear myself talking." > > Regards, > > Glenda Sutton > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Performance anxiety revisited From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:03:03 -0000   "Rhosymedre" I understand means "Beautiful place" in Welsh. Unfortunately...the town is full of slagheaps and bus stations!   TimBW   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Glenda > Sent: 01 November 1999 02:44 > To: PIPORG-L > Cc: PIPECHAT > Subject: Performance anxiety revisited > > > I experienced some anxiety tonight - taping the rehearsal was a > real bipolar > affair (lots of ups, lots of downs). I have decided to buy bananas and > Prozac for the entire audience next week, then I won't need any myself. > > Does anyone have any anecdotal information (for program notes) re = Vaughan > Williams' "Rhosymedre" or "Prelude on 'Song 13'"? I told myself > when first > planning this event that I needed some music by "my man" in it, and = after > tonight, I have decided to make one of these a possible alternative to = one > of the bears currently on the program, just in case all my work > goes to hell > in a handbasket during practice this week. That means waiting to > print the > program until the last minute, of course. > > Your kind assistance is as always much appreciated. > > Hope Randy Runyon's recital went extremely well this afternoon. > > Glenda Sutton > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Noisy prelude From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:05:26 -0000   I read a definition of a voluntary once as music "you didn't have to stay = to listen"!   Tim BW   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > John L. Speller > Sent: 01 November 1999 04:27 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Noisy prelude > > > Here is an extract from the address of the Rev. John Newte at the > opening of the Christian Smith organ of 1696 at St. Peter's Church, > Tiverton, Devon, England*: > > "[The organ] may play taking some lessons or decent flourish or other by > itself, which goes by the names of voluntaries. This is before the > service when people are taking their places in order that it may lead to > a civil deportment and behaviour ... It may also cover the indecent > noise which is too often made by the opening and clapping fast of pew > doors (a reason why ancient seats in church had no doors to them) and > the raucous hawkings and unnecessary coughing and spitting which are > made by the people." > > The passage siuggests that the WHOLE PURPOSE of having voluntaries in > church is to cover up the noise. Is your congregation spitting a lot? > If not, I would suggest you are unusually lucky <g> > > John Speller. > > P.S. The church where I grew up did, incidentally, have doors to the > pews. > > *This organ is believed to have been the first instrument on which a > transcription of the wedding march from Mendelssohn's "A Midsummer > Night's Dream" was played at a wedding (1844). It was replaced by > Willis in the 1860s. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Noisy prelude From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:15:33 EST   Hi Listers---- I have been following this thread of the Noisy prelude with great interest. A long time ago when growing up---I belonged to a very early, if =   not the first, "Childrens Choir School,,,which encompassed the protestant = and catholic denominations in my town. One started in 4th grade,,and one graduated into the senior choir of one's church in the second year of = high school. Part of the creed of the school,,which we repeated nearly every rehearsal said----I will respect the art of music performance by perfect silence,,,nor suffer disturbance from others-----I served us all well I guess. I still substitute at some of the churches in town,,,,,,there is = never any talk during the prelude AT ALL. And for that matter,,,no one ever = leaves the sanctuary before the postlude is over,,albeit it is NOT a 15 minute extravaganza to show the organ OR the organist off! I realize that I am rapidly becoming a "dinosaur" but for the large = part--in my world, its about worship, NOT about how many levels of pistons one can = run thru during a 4 verse hymn, making absolutely sure to change the whole combination at least once every bar,,,mebbee even 2 times! I have never thought of accompanying congregational singing as anything but an adjunct = to worship, certainly not showmanship. Just my two cents worth! Regards, ---Roc