PipeChat Digest #1171 - Wednesday, November 24, 1999
 
RE: Recruiting new choir members
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
Re: Dover editions
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Pipe search
  by <CareyOrgan@aol.com>
Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance
  by "Stan Guy" <texstan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: PipeDreams in Iowa
  by "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net>
Re: PipeDreams in Iowa
  by "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net>
Re: PipeDreams on the Internet
  by "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net>
Re: PipeDreams on the Internet
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
RE: Recruiting new choir members
  by "Jon Roussos" <Jon.Roussos@trw.com>
Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Pipe search
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: PipeDreams on the Internet
  by "Greg Corbett" <corbettg@theatreorgans.com>
CarolSing Invitation (X post)
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Milwaukee "Elijah"
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Milwaukee "Elijah"
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 


(back) Subject: RE: Recruiting new choir members From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:19:00 -0000   Hear Hear.   Tim B-W   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of N > Brown > Sent: 23 November 1999 05:22 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Recruiting new choir members > > > Care is a very important aspect of choir work (I'm definitely w/ Bruce > on that aspect). While the choir members can be fun to be with, I don't > work to make choir FUN. I work to make our music the best it can be -- > singing beautifully is fun, but that's after lots of hard work. > This is not to say there are not times of levity and fun in my > rehearsals, because there certainly are some. They are a biproduct, > however, of our unceasing devotion to our goal. My 2 cents worth. > Peace to you all. > > Neil > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Dover editions From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:13:04 EST   In a message dated 11/23/1999 4:56:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, qvixotes@yahoo.com writes:   << Is it posible to get a catalogue of the Dover editions? >>     Yes. go to: <A HREF=3D"http://www.burtnco.com/">Burt & Company Discount =   Music Supply</A>  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe search From: <CareyOrgan@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:06:11 EST   I'm sure we have in stock something that would match. The simplest thing would be for you to mail us the "C" pipes you have and the top pips, and could fill things out from there.   Keith Williams Carey Organ Company, Inc. 108 Jefferson St. Troy NY 12810   800-836-1441  
(back) Subject: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:08:25 EST   >From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>   >Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:06:41 EST     >DAAAHHHH ---     >Doesn't it have something to do with leather wearing, bike riding, = LESBIANS   >(who couldn't play their way out of a paper sack)?     >Name withheld (by obvious request)     >PS: It's Coral RIDGE   Drawknob-- I don't want to be ugly, but she's done more for raising the interest in = pipe organs and organ music than you have done. You may not appreciate what = Diane has done for the instrument and it's music because you can't see past the showmanship. Well, face it, boring music and boring performances don't endear people. What's wrong with bringing people to in by using some showmanship, and then introducing them to some great music. I get so sick =   and tired of people who have attitudes about other performers. We all = need to stick together and encourage each other. Why do most organists all try = to out do each other and make other performers look bad. How does this help = the cause of the organ or it's music? People are drawn to performances that = will be interesting musically and played on interesting organs. Sorry to burst =   some people's bubbles on here, but no one really wants to hear the = Buxheimer Orgelbuch or the complete works of Titelouze played on a 4 rank tracker. Play some exciting French toccatas, some lush Romantic period pieces, and = a few old favorites on a 75 rank Schoensten, Austin, or Skinner, and you'll probably have an audience of considerable size. Why have we lost our audiences? Because boring performers, playing boring =   music, on dull organs, have scared people off. I've played to audiences = of over 1500-2000 people before. I'm not claiming to be a virtuoso = performer, but I know what works well on the instrument, and I know what the audience =   likes to hear. Diane has played fabulous instruments around the world, played interesting music, and played it well, and has brought the organ to =   the people. She is no different than Virgil Fox doing the same thing. People may not like the style that Diane plays, but I can assure you that she's played recitals to a larger number of people than anyone on this = list. Whether or not she's a lesbian doesn't affect her musicianship. And, by = the way, she doesn't wear leather riding on a motorcylce.....she wears = designer clothes in her red, convertible Mercedes 500 SL.     Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance From: "Stan Guy" <texstan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:33:47 -0700   Monty -----   What a great piece of writing-----ALL of it true. I believe = most organists these days pick their music and programs for themselves alone = which is why organ concerts play to empty houses! VERY well said.   Best Regards,   Stan Guy--Dallas (private)      
(back) Subject: Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:39:43   At 10:08 AM 11/23/1999 EST, you wrote:   >Why have we lost our audiences? Because boring performers, playing = boring >music, on dull organs, have scared people off.<much snippage>I can assure you >that she's played recitals to a larger number of people than anyone = on this list.<with snippage of Harley and sexual orientation>   Well said! Good show, eh what! Although I make light of Bish "bashing" her way through things, she IS the most visible organist in this country today, and has done much through her broadcasts to attract fans to the instrument. Hurrah for her!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeDreams in Iowa From: "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:23:12 -0500 (EST)   Evie: The ratings you refer to are spelled MONEY! I've contribudted to every fundraiser on all 3 NPR stations (Jacksonville, Gainesville, and Tampa/St.Pete) and all three dropped Pipe Dreams at the same time. I expect that the early morning (midnight through 5 am) Jazz programming that is on 7-nights a week will be next... You are right, specialty programming is just not able to bring in the funding they now need to operate (and note that at least 2 of those 3 NPR stations are FL university sponsored....). Bill W.in the heart of Florida's Nature Coast.    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeDreams in Iowa From: "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:40:03 -0500 (EST)   DeserTBob: We get Diane Bishe on the Catholic Cable channel EWTN here in West Central Florida (Time-Warner Cable) every Sunday at 1:30 pm through 2:30 pm (time as scheduling allows), either one show most every Sunday and often 2 showings. At least U of I seems to be holding on for her. Her shows remind me of E.P:ower Biggs' 33-RPM recordings he made on various historical organs around the world. I had one long-play by E. Power where he only played Bach's Toccata and Fugue in d-minor on a multitue of historical European organs. Very interesting how each organ was unique in sound and reverb even though the same music was played on each with as similar a registration as he could effect. Bill W.    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeDreams on the Internet From: "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:30:11 -0500 (EST)   Greg: I saw a reference to this once before - could you pass back the URL for this link?   Thanks: Bill W.    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeDreams on the Internet From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:52:14 -0600   >Greg: I saw a reference to this once before - could you pass back the >URL for this link?   If you go to the Pipe Dreams home page http://pipedreams.mpr.org/ it tells you right there how to get it over the Web. Be advised that there are times it either don't come through very well or come through at all. And that depends on the amount of traffic on the Net at that particular time. Since neither of the public radio stations in my area carry it the only way I can hear it is via the Net.   David    
(back) Subject: RE: Recruiting new choir members From: "Jon Roussos" <Jon.Roussos@trw.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:07:43 -0800   Never underestimate the power of GOOD choir parties. I sang in a choir = for several years where my introduction, while still "church shopping" was = "you sing tenor, we are having a pool party this afternoon, come on over." = This choir became the backbone of the parish, and we also made a lot of "good" music.   By doing more than just singing together, we were able to survive some = lean times that we might not have had we just come to sing.   We continued to have choir parties for several years after we had gone our separate ways.   -----Original Message----- From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net [mailto:Innkawgneeto@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 9:22 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Recruiting new choir members     Care is a very important aspect of choir work (I'm definitely w/ Bruce on that aspect). While the choir members can be fun to be with, I don't work to make choir FUN. I work to make our music the best it can be -- singing beautifully is fun, but that's after lots of hard work. This is not to say there are not times of levity and fun in my rehearsals, because there certainly are some. They are a biproduct, however, of our unceasing devotion to our goal. My 2 cents worth. Peace to you all.   Neil     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Diane, Coral Ridge, and Concert Attendance From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:43:08 -0500   Why do organists try to out-do each other and make others look bad <snip   EGO      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe search From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:56:02 EST   Thanks very much for your response. However, I have located a suitable 2' Principal at the Milnar Organ Co. in Eagleville, TN. They are going to = clean it in their chemical bath, fit it with new slide tuners, and voice and regulate it for me. They also volunteered to let me use their tools to fit =   the pipes to my rackboard. They are relatively close to where I live.   I am interested in 1-12 of a Haskell Diapason or large string if you have that.   Thanks again.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeDreams on the Internet From: "Greg Corbett" <corbettg@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:34:07 -0800   Hi Bill,   The site I listen too is: http://www.mpr.org/    
(back) Subject: CarolSing Invitation (X post) From: "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:11:59 -0500 (EST)   Friends, Our church is hosting the 3rd annual Community Carol Sing on Sunday, Nov. 28 at 5:00 p.m. I'm writing to invite anyone who would care to make the trek to Toms River, NJ to spend a bit more than an hour singing carols in a friendly and relaxed atmosphere. The program consists of several carol medleys which I weave together with interludes. I even include a "secular" medley to tickle the kids' fancies a bit. The last 2 years have been most enjoyable. It's a lot of wonderful congregational singing. If you are interested in attending, e-mail me privately for directions and other info as necessary. Have a most blessed Thanksgiving holiday. --Neil Brown First United Methodist Church Toms River, NJ    
(back) Subject: Milwaukee "Elijah" From: "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:15:11 -0500 (EST)   Tonight on our classical station, I heard a wonderful performance of Mendelssohn's "Elijah" by the Milwaukee Symphony Orch and Chorus, recorded in March, according to the announcer. Question: Who was the builder of the organ in that hall? I think I heard the announcer say E-Line Hall (that's how it sounded anyway). Inquiring mind wants to know.   Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Milwaukee "Elijah" From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:31:07 -0600   >Tonight on our classical station, I heard a wonderful performance of >Mendelssohn's "Elijah" by the Milwaukee Symphony Orch and Chorus, >recorded in March, according to the announcer. > Question: Who was the builder of the organ in that hall? I think I >heard the announcer say E-Line Hall (that's how it sounded anyway). > Inquiring mind wants to know.   The organ is an Aeolian-Skinner and the name of the hall is Uihlein Hall which is a part of the Marcus Center for the Performing Arts in Milwaukee.   The organ is movable on several platforms and when it is not in use it is stored in the basement of the hall.   David