PipeChat Digest #1137 - Sunday, October 31, 1999
 
Re: performance anxiety
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com>
RE: performance anxiety
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Fw: performance anxiety
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: performance anxiety
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Gordon Nevin
  by "Sue Smith" <SueSmith@Imagine.com>
Re: performance anxiety--tenormin
  by "Shirley" <pnst@snip.net>
Re: performance anxiety
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted)
  by "Ian McLean" <SoloTibia@bigpond.com>
RE: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted)
  by "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk>
Re: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Ex-nurse organists
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:41:00 -0500   One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the audiance = NAKED. Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling.   Been there.........   Rick        
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:41:00 -0500   One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the audiance = NAKED. Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling.   Been there.........   Rick        
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:41:00 -0500   One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the audiance = NAKED. Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling.   Been there.........   Rick        
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:40:35 +0100   Hello List,   I seem to remember the suggestion below being tried out by Homer Simpson (Doh!) when he had to do a presentation to hundreds of his collegues. It seemed to work for him so maybe we should all try this tomorrow morning = :-)   PA paul.p.austin@talk21.com     > One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the audiance NAKED. > Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling. > > Been there......... > > Rick > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "Paul Austin" <paul.p.austin@talk21.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:05:14 +0100   Hello List,   I don't often feel nervous before a Sunday morning service, but I do get very stressed before any other type of 'none routine' service or performance.   The way I relax is by thinking that if anyone in the congregation or audience can do any better, or think they have the nerve, I will happily step aside and let them do it. If they can't, then they have no place to = be critical. Simple, but it works for me.   Paul Austin. paul.p.austin@talk21.com    
(back) Subject: RE: performance anxiety From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:07:42 +0100   Do you mean by 'been there' that you actually did play in front of a naked audience?   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > VEAGUE > Sent: 30 October 1999 14:41 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: performance anxiety > > > One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the > audiance NAKED. > Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling. > > Been there......... > > Rick > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:43:54 -0400   > The way I relax is by thinking that if anyone in the congregation or > audience can do any better, or think they have the nerve, I will = happily > step aside and let them do it. If they can't, then they have no place = to be > critical. Simple, but it works for me.   Yeah, that works great until you get to, say, the Poister Competition. I'm never nervous unless I'm playing for an AGO chapter!   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Fw: performance anxiety From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:06:09 -0500   Never played for a naked audiance... not YET anyway.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Tim Byram-Wigfield <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 10:10 AM Subject: RE: performance anxiety     >Do you mean by 'been there' that you actually did play in front of a = naked >audience? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of >> VEAGUE >> Sent: 30 October 1999 14:41 >> To: PipeChat >> Subject: Re: performance anxiety >> >> >> One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the >> audiance NAKED. >> Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling. >> >> Been there......... >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >        
(back) Subject: Fw: performance anxiety From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:06:09 -0500   Never played for a naked audiance... not YET anyway.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Tim Byram-Wigfield <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 10:10 AM Subject: RE: performance anxiety     >Do you mean by 'been there' that you actually did play in front of a = naked >audience? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of >> VEAGUE >> Sent: 30 October 1999 14:41 >> To: PipeChat >> Subject: Re: performance anxiety >> >> >> One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the >> audiance NAKED. >> Picturing this in your mind of each person should start you giggling. >> >> Been there......... >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >        
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:07:18 -0500   VEAGUE wrote: > > One non-medical cure for this is to imagine everyone in the audiance = NAKED.   Having the people naked would have the additional advantage of reducing the amount of sound absorbing material in the church and improving the acoustics ... :-)   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Gordon Nevin From: "Sue Smith" <SueSmith@Imagine.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:33:11 -0400   There is a GBN piece called "Toccata in D Minor" (copyright 1915), but I wouldn't call it Bach-y and I wouldn't call it contrapuntal either. There are broken chords in the right hand and block chords in a rhythmic pattern in the left hand. Slower, homophonic sections as interludes. Cheesy chromatic harmony throughout.   Is this the piece of your dreams?   S.D.G. Sue Smith   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Susan K. Smith, Organist & Webmaster Avon Congregational Church Avon, CT Austin 2M/8R www.avon-church.org www.smith-lawfirm.com suesmith@smith-lawfirm.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D        
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety--tenormin From: Shirley <pnst@snip.net> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:34:15 -0400   >From: "Roy Wilson" <royjaneann@hotmail.com> >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:09:03 PDT > >No one has mentioned "tenormin" yet.   Beta blockers are out of the question (for me, anyway). Have seen too = much damage done to perfectly healthy people, and besides.... it takes the edge off the performance, and therefore can produce a mediocre, musically UNexciting performance.   With strong feelings on the subject of beta blockers (no matter how mild) being used by healthy people just to control performance anxiety, I'll refrain from further comment on this topic.   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: performance anxiety From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:01:25 -0400   > Having the people naked would have the additional advantage of reducing > the amount of sound absorbing material in the church and improving the > acoustics ... :-)   Only YOU would think of -that-, John! ;)   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Re: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted) From: Ian McLean <SoloTibia@bigpond.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:41:48 +1100   Noel Stoutenburg wrote:   > A new thread here: > > Up until now, organ music has been produced in "hardcopy", where the > scores are printed up in advance, and we make our selections from a > catalog, or from a display of printed material. > > 1) Would you buy a CD-ROM containing a(n approximate) rendering of the > music, in addition to an image of the page, thereby having the > opportunity of listening to the CD, perhaps being able to view the > score as the music is played, to purchase the priviledge of printing out > only the songs you want on our own printer?   Yes. But I wouldn't require the "rendering".   > 1 a) In comparison to the cost of the same quantity of "conventional > music", how much would you pay for music you obtain in this method: the > same amount? half as much?   Much less.   > 2) Years ago, and I think, even today in the case of some "Library > quality" collected works editions, a common means of publishing music > was by subscription. Based upon an announcement of future availability, > one could decide whether or not to buy a copy of a particular work / > volume. Would you consider buying a subscription to music by some > composer?   Maybe.   > 2 a) Would you consider buying a music CD-ROM (as above) on a > subscription basis?   Possibly.      
(back) Subject: RE: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted) From: "Tim Byram-Wigfield" <t_byram-wigfield@jesus.cam.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:43:17 +0100   It's a good idea. I could see it being v successful for choral = anthologies (if the publishing companies would allow us!!) - no more staggering around with European Sacred Music copies at concerts!   I agree with the dispensing of the renderings,but I dare say others might find it useful... TBW   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Ian McLean > Sent: 31 October 1999 00:42 > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted) > > > Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > > > A new thread here: > > > > Up until now, organ music has been produced in "hardcopy", where the > > scores are printed up in advance, and we make our selections from a > > catalog, or from a display of printed material. > > > > 1) Would you buy a CD-ROM containing a(n approximate) rendering of = the > > music, in addition to an image of the page, thereby having the > > opportunity of listening to the CD, perhaps being able to view the > > score as the music is played, to purchase the priviledge of printing = out > > only the songs you want on our own printer? > > Yes. But I wouldn't require the "rendering". > > > 1 a) In comparison to the cost of the same quantity of "conventional > > music", how much would you pay for music you obtain in this method: = the > > same amount? half as much? > > Much less. > > > 2) Years ago, and I think, even today in the case of some "Library > > quality" collected works editions, a common means of publishing music > > was by subscription. Based upon an announcement of future = availability, > > one could decide whether or not to buy a copy of a particular work / > > volume. Would you consider buying a subscription to music by some > > composer? > > Maybe. > > > 2 a) Would you consider buying a music CD-ROM (as above) on a > > subscription basis? > > Possibly. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Publishing Paradigms (X-Posted) From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:09:17 -0400 (EDT)   >1) Would you buy a CD-ROM containing a(n > approximate) rendering of the music, in > addition to an image of the page, thereby > having the opportunity of listening to the CD, > perhaps being able to view the score as the > music is played, to purchase the priviledge of > printing out only the songs you want on our > own printer? Excellent idea! There is so much music written today that it is virtually impossible to keep up with it. In addition, I find much music that I buy not worth learing for various reasons, and it would be great to have the ability to preview.   >1 a) In comparison to the cost of the same > quantity of "conventional music", how much > would you pay for music you obtain in this > method: the same amount? half as much? half as much would be wonderful, provided that this still leaves reasonable income for the composer and others necessary to production. I would like to see some alteration in the distribution of proceeds to give the composer a more fair portion of the proceeds.   >2) Would you consider buying a subscription > to music by some composer? Yes, although it would be helpful to have samplings of varous composers as well. >2 a) Would you consider buying a music > CD-ROM (as above) on a subscription basis? Yes!   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Ex-nurse organists From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:13:13 -0400 (EDT)     >How about: Moving from a relatively > high-stress occupation to a relatively > low-stress one? Good idea! Which is the relatively low-stress occupation?   >There >are< some things that money just can't > buy. Yes. You must get used to those after you've switched to church music!! ;-)     bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida