PipeChat Digest #1055 - Saturday, September 4, 1999
 
New York Times Article
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Flame war at Pipeorg-l now Moller
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: PipeChat Digest #1054 - 09/03/99
  by <steve@open-tech.com>
Re: PLEASE READ Re: Flame war at Pipeorg-l
  by "Workflow" <Workflow@dial.pipex.com>
Re: Reggie Foort's Travelling Organ.
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: New York Times Article
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Piporg Addresses
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Biggs LPs for sale (cross-post)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
piporg-L, Pipechat-L and Mr. Gluck's banishment
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
MIDI sequencer & sound module advice wanted
  by "Jan Vanderstad" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: MIDI sequencer & sound module advice wanted
  by <prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net>
Re: Piporg Addresses
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Music at Abington Schedule (X-posted)
  by "Shirley" <pnst@snip.net>
Re: English to "Was Mein Gott Will, . . ."
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
 


(back) Subject: New York Times Article From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:52:11 -0500   There is a very interesting article in today's New York Times Religion section that you might be interested in checking out. The URL for it is:   http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-Religion-In-The-News.html   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Flame war at Pipeorg-l now Moller From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:20:33 -0500   >As I recall, there was at least one classical or semi-classical concert >there ... >but this was a very unusual organ ... there's a description (website?) >somewhere >... maybe the theatre organ people can fill in the blanks. It was a large >four-manual PORTABLE Moller ... since moved to a civic auditorium = somewhere up >around me (Orange County/Los Angeles). > >Cheers, > It was originally in England where Reginald Foort Travelled around with it during the war years loaded on several trucks. It was constructed so it could be set up on stage in a short time. After the war years it was = bought by one of the radio stations in Holland and moved around a bit there = before it travelled to the US. That's what I recall off the top of my head. Earlier this year quite a bit of discussion on either this list or piporg-l. The archives maybe helpful. I own a few recordings of when it lived in Holland. Definitely a sound = that fell somewhere between theatrical and "classical".   John V      
(back) Subject: RE: PipeChat Digest #1054 - 09/03/99 From: steve@open-tech.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:51:02 -0500   My desire to comment has overcome my reluctance to waste bandwidth. The current dustup over on PIPORG-L is the result of poor netiquette. It's something I hope doesn't happen here, but the reality is it happens everywhere. Someone wrote a bad thing to someone else (privately) and = that person boadcast it to the list. It was offensive and the offender unsubscribed so no consequences from the list owners was called for (or = even possible). Two wrongs don't make a right. Let's learn from the = experience and keep the language clean (something this list seems pretty good at) = both publicly and privately.   Now for something on topic. I purchased three of the Dupre Organ Works series on Naxos and have discovered a fairly mixed bag. Some of it's = really good and some is only OK (IMHO). The recordings and the organs seem fine = so maybe Dupre was a tad inconsistent as a composer. So far the best was recorded in Nashville on a Casavant by (IIRC) Janet Fischell (?) and I believe it's volume 4 or 5. It starts with three early preludes and = fugues, including the g minor which is very nicely played. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this series. Are the lower volumes better (vols. 1 - 3)?   Cheers, Steve Chandler PS. Anyone interested in hearing my original compositions is invited to; www.mp3.com/stevechandler    
(back) Subject: Re: PLEASE READ Re: Flame war at Pipeorg-l From: "Workflow" <Workflow@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:46:54 +0100   And THIS from the guy that THREW ME OUT because some other individual posted my PRIVATE mail to the list.   Makes you throw up, don't it !!   Mark Checkley.   -----Original Message----- From: Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 09:02 Subject: PLEASE READ Re: Flame war at Pipeorg-l     >Folks > >As much as I am happy to see the support of the members of this list >over Pete's and my policies and to see that several of you feel this >is a more "civil" list than the one in question, I really don't feel >that this is an appropriate topic for discussion on this list. > >As long as mailing lists have existed on the Internet there have >always been topics of contention that turn into a "flame war" and >there are always "good" people that have been hurt and ended up >leaving the list. I, for one, always hates to see that happen >because the person that left might just happen to have an answer to a >question that I have asked on the list. > >We may not always agree with each other but I HOPE that each of us on >this list RESPECTS that their viewpoint may not always be the same as >someone else's. And each person's viewpoint, while not maybe the >most suitable one in many circumstances, might just be VERY >appropriate in that person's situation. I hope that we can all >respect that fact. > >I do have to say that I am very taken back by a couple of comments >about the talent or the lack thereof regarding members of the other >list. Some of us on these lists, and I am including all the organ >lists that I know of - which are several, have met other list members >and have an idea of what their capabilities are. But MANY of us have >not ever met many of the others on the lists. I don't see how any of >us can comment about the God-given talents of another person that we >have never met or heard in person. That to me equates to back-biting >gossip. > >Now I hope that we can get back to PipeChatting - discussing organs >whether they be pipe or digital, classical or theatre, and even reed >organs! And organ music. And I hope that we do it with respect for >each other and with some humor. > >David >**************************************** >David Scribner >Co-Owner / Technical Administrator >PipeChat > >http://www.pipechat.org >850-478-9635 >mailto:david@blackiris.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Reggie Foort's Travelling Organ. From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:38:30 -0400   At 02:46 PM 9/3/99 +0100, Mark Checkley wrote: >And THIS from the guy that THREW ME OUT because some >other individual posted my PRIVATE mail to the list. > >Makes you throw up, don't it !! > >Mark Checkley.   To all PipeChat members:   Let it rest guys, it happened on another list, let's stick to organ topics here on Pipechat.   Which reminds me, regarding Reggie Foort's Travelling Organ. Before the war, it was stored in four or five pantechnicons, (large trucks to you residents of North Amerca), and they were garaged in a large mover's = garage next door to where I lived as a boy. Many the time I would wander in when they were either going or coming, so the truckers and the building crew = got to know me, and one day I was invited to go along with them to Harringay Arena where the organ was going to be set up for a Reggie Foort concert.   I remember it as being quite an organ, (much bigger than the one in the church where I was a choirboy), and although at the age of 12 or 13 I wasn't allowed to actually try to play it, I was allowed to sit at the console and marvel at all the tabs, pistons and foot controls. I was even allowed to stay for the concert, and was introduced to Reggie Foort as his youngest "techie".   I never saw it assembled again, although I often heard it on the wireless when the BBC had it for organ recitals, with Quintin Maclean playing it. After the war it went to Holland which is where John Vanderlee would have heard it. This electronic age brings together all sorts of people who = have many stories to compare!   Reminder!   Remember to tune in to PipeChat IRC this evening at 9.00 pm Eastern Time - we shall all be there once again!   Bob Conway Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, - they did it by killing all those who opposed them..            
(back) Subject: Re: New York Times Article From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:58:57 -0400   >There is a very interesting article in today's New York Times >Religion section that you might be interested in checking out. The >URL for it is: > >http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-Religion-In-The-News.html > >David > Thanks for the reference. It is a great article. I am a little worried, though, that in reading it some folks will think pedals are something we "pump" (as on a parlor harmoniumj) instead of a keyboard we play. Just a figure of speech, I imagine, on the part of the writer. Still....   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Cincinnati, Ohio      
(back) Subject: Piporg Addresses From: MickBerg@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:31:30 EDT   Would someone be so kind as to tell me the addresses (both list and = server) for Piporg-l? I want to rejoin the list. (Am I crazy?) Thanks, Mick Berg.  
(back) Subject: Re: Biggs LPs for sale (cross-post) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:59:44 -0700   At 10:51 PM 7/29/1999 -0400, you wrote: >FOR SALE: > >(2) Columbia LP - E.Power Biggs - ``The Organ in Sight and Sound'' >(1) E. Power Biggs - Bach: The Little Organ Book (3 LP set) > >Best price takes the recording. All three in fine shape.<snip>   Hi, Bonnie:   I dug this e-mail out of my backups after my hard drive took a powder! Do you still have these LPs for sale? If so, how's $15.00 for the lot sound?   Thanks!   Bob Scarborough    
(back) Subject: piporg-L, Pipechat-L and Mr. Gluck's banishment From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:18:04 EDT   Believe me folks,   If I had a nickel for every time one of our estemmed list members had sent = me a boorish, heated, opinionated, accusatory, assenine, ridiculous, immature =   (or otherwise) remark privately or to the entire list- I would have been a =   trillionaire several times over. However, I think that is anyone should REMAIN on these lists it should be Sebastian Matthaus Gluck. For what = it's worth.......   Scott F. Foppiano  
(back) Subject: MIDI sequencer & sound module advice wanted From: Jan Vanderstad <dcob@nac.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:58:00 -0400   Good Evening fellow listers Could anyone give me some advice & info. reguarding the MIDI sequencers and sound modules currently available on the market? I don't care if this leads to an on-list discussion, as long as it is within the bounds of the respective lists. Which ones are better known to have a descent bank of organ stops? Thanks in advance for your opinions. Mr. Jan Vanderstad    
(back) Subject: Re: MIDI sequencer & sound module advice wanted From: prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:28:01 -0400   Jan, In reference to your interest in sound modules, I have listened to the Allen Expander II and the Ahlborn Galanti, and they are both very good, with a lot of features, use of presets, etc. I have not heard the Viscount, but I understand that it is not quite so "organ-like". The samples used for the Allen and Ahlborns are very good. As for the sequencer, I have found Roland to be the most experienced at making sequencers, having been in that specialty for probably longer than anyone else. Of course, Allen has its own sequencer, but it does not interface competely with other organs. for, example, it uses different codes for changing presets than my Baldwin digital, although theExpander II's sounds are compatible. I have 3 Roland sequencers, a Brother Pro Disc Composer (sequencer), and a Peavey "Data Streamer" sequencer, and Roland is the best of the lot. The church from which I just retired got a Yamaha sequencer, but they have had no experience with it yet so who knows. It was recommended by the = pipe organ repairman. Try them out before you spend a lot of money for one.   Paul R. Swank Organist/Choirmaster, Retired Christ Lutheran Church-MS Dundalk, MD   Jan Vanderstad wrote:   > Good Evening fellow listers > Could anyone give me some advice & info. reguarding the MIDI sequencers > and sound modules currently available on the market? > I don't care if this leads to an on-list discussion, as long as it is > within the bounds of the respective lists. > Which ones are better known to have a descent bank of organ stops? > Thanks in advance for your opinions. > Mr. Jan Vanderstad > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Piporg Addresses From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:30:20 -0400 (EDT)   Here ya go! Enjoy. (It ain't as bad as they say! ;-) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: PIPORG-L web page http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   When a man's dog turns against him it is time for his wife to pack her trunk and go home to mama. -- Mark Twain    
(back) Subject: Music at Abington Schedule (X-posted) From: Shirley <pnst@snip.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 22:44:38 -0400   Hi, folks -   For those interested, please check out the 1999-2000 season for Music at Abington, the community music series sponsored by Abington Presbyterian Church in Pennsylvania.   We're quite excited about the year ahead, with our new DoMM (Mark Lynn Milberger) and Organist (Seung-Lan Kim, who holds a Masters degree in Sacred Music from Westminster Choir College).   Go to http://www.libertynet.org/apcusa, click on "Music" in the left margin, and then "Calendar of Events" along the top.   To see and read about the organ, go to http://www.libertynet.org/apcusa/organ.html, or click "Organ Information" across the top menu of the Music Page.   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Re: English to "Was Mein Gott Will, . . ." From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:05:17 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BEF56D.B6795D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   There is a translator at: http://translator.go.com   This might provide a good translation?   Richard   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BEF56D.B6795D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = =3D Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>   </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>There is a translator =3D at:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://translator.go.com">http://translator.go.com</A></FONT></DI= =3D V> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>This might provide a good=3D20 translation?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Richard</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0011_01BEF56D.B6795D40--