PipeChat Digest #1074 - Saturday, September 11, 1999
 
Introducing myself + concert details of my good friend John Mann
  by "Sarah Bryant" <Bryant@melody67.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: "Elegy" by Thalben-Ball
  by "Tom Baldwin" <tomba@pobox.com>
Rodgers 990 71 Vintage
  by "Robert Clooney" <basset3@warwick.net>
RE: Introducing myself + concert details of my good friend John M	ann
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Christmas Song.....
  by "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca>
Organ builders in NYC?
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Organ builders in NYC?
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: shrine kilgen/bakery
  by "artie00000" <artie00000@home.com>
Re: Mysterious Mixtures - question about some "found" pipes
  by "artie00000" <artie00000@home.com>
Re: Organ builders in NYC?
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
ORIGINAL edition of Stainer's "Grieve Not The Holy Spirit of God"  (X-pos
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
 


(back) Subject: Introducing myself + concert details of my good friend John Mann From: "Sarah Bryant" <Bryant@melody67.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:31:05 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01BEFBA1.7F2B4080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi,   I am new to PipeChat and although most of my playing is done on an =3D electronic organ (an Eminent 2000 Grand Theatre) I do love listening to = =3D or playing a pipe organ. The Eminent was about the nearest I could get, = =3D especially in my home and for travelling around the UK. I have a web =3D site at http://www.melody67.freeserve.co.uk . Last Saturday UK's Nigel = =3D Ogden (presenter of BBC Radio 2's "The Organist Entertains") played a =3D concert in the United Reformed Church in Herne Bay in Kent. It was quite = =3D amazing the variety of sounds he found in the instrument. He played a =3D programme ranging from light classics, thro' musicals to foot-tapping =3D tunes of yesteryear. He added extra variety by playing the Grand Piano =3D for part of the evening.   Those of you in Holland may be interested to know that this weekend you = =3D have the very popular John Mann coming over from the UK to play a series = =3D of concerts, the details are as follows:-   Friday 10 in Voorberg   Saturday 11 in Tuschinski Amsterdam (morning)   Saturday 11 in Pernis (afternoon)   Sunday 12 in the New Holland Theatre in Schiedam (morning)   Back to the UK.   On Monday 13 John will be at Fred Tallant Hall, Drummond St, Euston, =3D London=3D20   When the Cinema Organ Society present John Mann - "This is Your Life" =3D an evening introduced by Tony Moss. No tickets required. 7.15pm   Saturday 25 John will be playing at the Odeon Leicester Square in =3D London at 10.00am on the Compton Organ in a Tribute to Douglas Reeve =3D (was resident organist at the Dome in Brighton) who died recently, plus = =3D guests.   John Mann has a web site at http://www.eminentmann.freeserve.co.uk - =3D full concert list on this site.   Hope the above is of some interest.   Regards,   Sarah Bryant     ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01BEFBA1.7F2B4080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D3D1> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi,</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am new to PipeChat and although most = of =3D my playing=3D20 is done on an electronic organ (an Eminent 2000 Grand Theatre) I do love = =3D   listening to or playing a pipe organ.&nbsp; The Eminent was about the =3D nearest I=3D20 could get, especially in my home and for travelling around the UK.&nbsp; = =3D I have=3D20 a web site at <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.melody67.freeserve.co.uk">http://www.melody67.freeserv= =3D e.co.uk</A>=3D20 ..&nbsp; Last Saturday UK's Nigel Ogden (presenter of BBC Radio 2's "The = =3D Organist=3D20 Entertains") played a concert in the United Reformed Church in Herne Bay = =3D in=3D20 Kent. It was quite amazing the variety of sounds he found in the =3D instrument. He=3D20 played a programme ranging from light classics, thro' musicals=3D20 to&nbsp;foot-tapping tunes of yesteryear.&nbsp;He added extra variety by = =3D playing=3D20 the&nbsp;Grand Piano for part of the evening.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Those of you in Holland may be = interested =3D to know=3D20 that this weekend you have the very popular John Mann coming over from =3D the UK to=3D20 play a series of concerts, the details are as follows:-</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Friday 10 in Voorberg</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Saturday 11 in Tuschinski = Amsterdam=3D20 (morning)</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial>Saturday 11 in Pernis=3D20 (afternoon)</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial>Sunday 12 in the New Holland =3D Theatre in=3D20 Schiedam (morning)</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Back to the UK.</FONT></P> <P><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial>On Monday 13 John will be at Fred =3D Tallant Hall,=3D20 Drummond St, Euston, London <EM></EM></FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>When the Cinema Organ Society present = =3D John Mann -=3D20 &#8220;This is Your Life&#8221;&nbsp; an evening introduced by Tony =3D Moss</FONT><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>. No tickets required. 7.15pm</FONT></P><FONT = =3D size=3D3D2><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial> <P>Saturday 25&nbsp; John will be playing at the Odeon Leicester Square = =3D in=3D20 London at 10.00am on the</FONT></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2> =3D Compton Organ in=3D20 a Tribute to Douglas Reeve (was resident organist at the Dome in =3D Brighton) who=3D20 died recently, plus guests.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>John Mann has a web site at <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.eminentmann.freeserve.co.uk">http://www.eminentmann.fr= =3D eeserve.co.uk</A>&nbsp;-=3D20 full concert list on this site.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hope the above is of some =3D interest.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regards,</FONT></P> <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sarah =3D Bryant</FONT></P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01BEFBA1.7F2B4080--    
(back) Subject: Re: "Elegy" by Thalben-Ball From: Tom Baldwin <tomba@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:34:19 +0200   Paul <CHERCAPA@aol.com> asks:   >Do they [Banks of York, UK] have a web site like the Church of England bookstore. >Found that a treasure trove and interesting.   As of last November they did not, nor did they have a plan. If you're looking for mail-order organ sheet music in the UK I recommend:   Blackwell's Music Shop 38 Holywell Street Oxford, OX1 3SW Tel. +44(0)1865 792792 Fax. +44(0)1865 248833 E-mail. music@blackwellsbookshops.co.uk   Their Peter McMullin is knowledgeable and very helpful.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Rodgers 990 71 Vintage From: Robert Clooney <basset3@warwick.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:42:47 -0400   If anyone plays an old Rodgers 990 (III/53), please e-mail me privately. Thanks. Robert Clooney (Milford, PA)  
(back) Subject: RE: Introducing myself + concert details of my good friend John M ann From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:26:26 -0500   Sarah: More importantly, how is your Volvo these days? Cheers, Peter      
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Song..... From: "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:54:58 -0500   > Greetings, > > the words for the song I'm looking for are: > O what a beautiful city, > > If this looks familiar to anyone, please contact me. Thanks.   Carlo,   The song is "Twelve Gates to the City" and for my money the best = arrangement ever was recorded by Joan Baez back in the heyday of folk music.   Best regards, Russ Greene  
(back) Subject: Organ builders in NYC? From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:17:14 -0400   Are there any organ building firms in NYC that would allow me to visit to see the actual work that you do? Not to go into the history of "why" I ask and possibly irritate the majority on this list, I will be more than happy to explain "why" I ask to anyone who replies off list. Thank you, Robert Colasacco  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ builders in NYC? From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:52:56 -0500   >Are there any organ building firms in NYC that would allow me to visit to >see the actual work that you do? Not to go into the history of "why" I = ask >and possibly irritate the majority on this list, I will be more than = happy >to explain "why" I ask to anyone who replies off list.   Robert   There are a couple of builders in NYC. I don't know what their shops are like or even where they are located.   Sebastian M. Gluck has an address of 175 Fifth Avenue, Suite 2198 - NY, NY 10010 - phone 212-979-7698 - I doubt that is the shop address. E-mail: tubamagna@aol.com   Mann & Turpiano is in Brooklyn. I can't off-hand find their address or phone number - you might try information.   In either case, their shops are not going to be really big - but I know in both cases they both build new instruments along with rebuilding work.   If you wanted to visit a factory/large shop - the Austin Company is in Hartford, CT - which is just a train ride away. Their address is 156 Woodland St, Hartford , 06105-1284 and their phone number is 860-522-8293 E-mail: Austinorgs@aol.com   I would be interested in your "why"     David    
(back) Subject: Re: shrine kilgen/bakery From: artie00000 <artie00000@home.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:41:57 -0700   If historic importance is relevant, and the modernization of the instrument is artistically desired, do both. It may require more financially, but you can have your cake and eat it too. Arthur   David Scribner wrote: > > >At 09:01 PM 9/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 9/8/99 1:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = texx@crl.com > > >writes: > > > > > ><< I take exception to this falsehood.<much snippage> > > > > > Its electrical system has been heavily modernized. > > > The original relay scrapped in place, a computer.<snip> > > > > > > While I gather the original relay was a "dog", and i dont know if = anyone > > > really TRIED to make it work right, the fact is that thing has been > >MODERIZED<snip> > > If this was an instrument that was in a Museum, maybe it would be > more "Historically correct" to keep the old relay, etc. BUT since > this is an instrument that is in a church, and from what I gather a > church that uses it quite a lot, then it is foolish to keep some > outdated equipment such as the old Kilgen relay for the purposes of > keeping everything original. From what I gather there are several > different organists that play it on a regular basis. At least with > this new system they can each have their own set of combinations. > > And really what matters here? the mechanical end or the tonal end? > As Scott has said the TONAL side of the instrument is original or > very close to it except for a couple of ranks that have been tampered > with. Isn't this what an instrument is all about? > > David > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Mysterious Mixtures - question about some "found" pipes From: artie00000 <artie00000@home.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:19:11 -0700       artie00000 wrote: > > Possibly to seal wind lines? I have observed one of these mystery boxes = at a Robert Morton/Wicks Theatre installation. The box was conveniently = out of sight, on a catwalk, high above the stage. Most of this pipework = appeared destined for organ heaven. > Arthur   > Bob Conway wrote: > > > > You know what? I reckon that they were the ones left over from a past > > repair job! > > > > i have done the same thing when i have tried to repair a watch, - = there > > always seems to be some parts left over when it is done! > > > > Bob Conway > > > > At 02:26 PM 1999-09-09 EDT, you wrote: > > >i was recently working in a church and found a "box" of organ pipes. = there > > >are 107 pipes, of tin, and they look very new. most have no note = markings. > > I > > >have tried to put them in order by length, and have found that there = are > > >groups of pipes that appear to be of the same pitch. this leads me to > > believe > > >that they may comprise a mixture. > > > > > >I have no idea how to sort them out, or how to determine whether or = not they > > >are in fact a mixture. the largest pipe is about 21", and though not = tuned, > > >appeard to sound a "d" and all are of principal tone. I don't want = to throw > > >them away... they look very new, but no one seems to know where they = came > > >from. > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > > > >Joseph DeCaria, > > >Toronto > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > ON A REPAIR SHOP DOOR: We can repair anything. > > > > (Please knock hard on the door - the bell doesn't work) > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ builders in NYC? From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:08:38 -0400 (EDT)     > Not to go into the history of "why" I ask and > possibly irritate the majority on this list, I will > be more than happy to explain "why" I ask to > anyone who replies off list. Hey, here, now!!!! Enquiring minds want (must, gotta) to know!! ;-)   PS: What's really irritating is NOT KNOWING!! ;-)   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   When a man's dog turns against him it is time for his wife to pack her trunk and go home to mama. -- Mark Twain    
(back) Subject: ORIGINAL edition of Stainer's "Grieve Not The Holy Spirit of God" (X-posted) From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:10:19 -0700   Got out our freshly-minted copies of the Stainer last night, only to discover that some "editor" had taken it upon himself to tamper with both text and music. The text no longer agrees with the BCP; the music is scrunched onto THREE staves (soprano and alto on one, tenor and bass one each ... go figure), with various "improvements". Shame caning isn't practiced on this side of the pond, or I'd give that blighter "six of the best" (grin). That's what I get for buying music sight unseen over the Net, at least in this case. It never occurred to me that somebody would tamper with an old chestnut like THAT.   Anyway, does anybody have the original UN-mutilated edition? I think it might have been G. Schirmer in the US; have no idea what it is in the UK.   Thanks!   Bud