PipeChat Digest #1078 - Tuesday, September 14, 1999
 
Xpost: Kid's Workshop and Recital--Horton-Yoon
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Houston Trip
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Houston Trip
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
RE: Houston Trip
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Church Latin pronunciation (longish)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: check!
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Church Latin pronunciation
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: check!
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Church Latin pronunciation
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
variations in Latin pronunciation
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: check!
  by <prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net>
..what to do...what to do...what to do...???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Houston Trip
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: Church Latin pronunciation
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: ..what to do...what to do...what to do...???
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: ..what to do...what to do...what to do...???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Holy Eucharist and Baptism; St. James Church, Hendersonville, NC
  by "Barry and Claire Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
Re: check!
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
 


(back) Subject: Xpost: Kid's Workshop and Recital--Horton-Yoon From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:53:10 -0400 (EDT)     On Saturday morning, 12 September, Rob Horton and Gloria Yoon dazzled, entertained, and intrigued around 30 young pianists and their families. The students were divided into two groups, one group watching a video prepared for young people by an AGO chapter (names and titles escape me presently, but the information can be obtained from bcornely@bellsouth.net ) and trying out the chapel Moller 2/3, and the other group stayed in the sanctuary for a demonstration and entertaining program by Rob and Gloria, concluding with a dazzling performance of the Gigout Toccata by Gloria. =A0 The very enthusiastic youngsters then signed up for individual instruction to be helped to prepare music to play in a recital on 10 October. On Sunday, Rob and Gloria played an outstanding recital for over 150 very enthusiastic people, mostly students from the University of Florida. The program:   Sonata in d-minor, op 30 =A0 =A0 Gustav Merkel =A0 Allegro Moderato ~ Andante ~ Scherzo-fugue Sonata in C Major, KV 545 =A0 =A0 Mozart What a Friend We Have in Jesus =A0 =A0 Bolcom Grand Duett for Organ =A0 =A0 Samuel Wesley =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Allegro ~ Andante ~ Fuga - alla capella Deuxieme Rhapsodie Hongroise =A0 =A0 Liszt Rose Leaf Rag =A0 Joplin   The Merkel sonata was quite a nice piece. =A0 It was a good opened and ably demonstrated the resources of the organ. =A0 Much creativity was evident in registration and the playing evidenced considerable feeling and involvement with the music.   A more appropriate piece to play for young pianists I could not have imagined!! BUT.... not just "played" but wonderfully performed by four feet on a 4' flute. =A0 This was transcribed by Rob and was just too much fun. =A0 My second favorite of the afternoon.   At my request, Rob played the Bolcom "What a Friend" and for me made it sound much better than it is!! =A0 His registrations were uncluttered and offered considerable contrast. =A0 He was obviously having a wonderful time and his playing was very loose and relaxed, most appropriate for this type of piece.   The Grande Duet was well played and more interesting that I generally find SSW. =A0 Rob and Gloria played very cleanly and gave this piece alot of sparkle as well as warmth and excitement. =A0 It must have been especially challenging playing this piece with John and Charles Wesley peering over their shoulders from high in the South choir windows.   My favorite of the afternoon was the Hungarian Rhapsodie of Liszt transcribed by Horton. =A0 It was quite a work-out for both players and the organ. =A0 I was quite pleased (if I may toot my own Hautbois) at the balance between the Swell Hautbois and the Positiv Dulzian (actually a Dulzianette!). =A0 Once again, Rob and Gloria apparently went to special effort to use the entire organ for the young pianists enjoyment.   For a nice, gentle conclusion to a very exciting program, Rob and Gloria played Joplin's Rose Leaf Rag. =A0 Once again, very loose and free, and obviously enjoyed by the players as well as the listeners.   Rob Horton and Gloria Yoon are quite a pair, much enjoyed by youngsters and oldsters as well. =A0 The teenagers at the workshop were full of questions which were ably answered. =A0 The most common question, as each larger and larger organ was shown, was "Oooh! How much would that one cost?" =A0 I highly recommend them for recitals and workshops.   They spared no effort in preparing and performing their recital for us. All chapter members involved were very pleased as well.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   When a man's dog turns against him it is time for his wife to pack her trunk and go home to mama. -- Mark Twain    
(back) Subject: Re: Houston Trip From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:54:52 -0500   >Darryl by the Sea >Taking a break from securing the Miller fortress for the arrival of Floyd   Darryl and any other list members facing Floyd, please know that my prayers are with you. Please keep us informed of your condition. The last I heard Floyd was one MPH away from a Category 5 Hurricane so I know that you folks are facing some very touch times ahead.   David   **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Houston Trip From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:55:25 EDT   In a message dated 99-09-13 20:46:55 EDT, you write:   << Darryl by the Sea Taking a break from securing the Miller fortress for the arrival of Floyd >> Do you think it will be safe to fly to Key West this weekend, = hurricane-wise? Maddened Mid-atlanticers need to know!  
(back) Subject: RE: Houston Trip From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:27:53 -0400 (EDT)   =A0=A0 >for my money, a must hear is the St. Paul's > UMC Choir and Bob Brewer. I haven't heard Bob's choir, but I have heard the organ, a Schantz 4m from the 80's which is veddy veddy English. Bob is not only an exceptional organist but a really nice person, so you should get a very nice tour.   >It's not in a church, but Rice University's > Shephard School of Music has a destination > Fisk/Rosales in the classic French style > housed in a recital hall designed and built > specifically for it.   >The other Fisk at Rice University > Andover/Fisk, #25.... 1958. The chapel Fisk is quite an interesting organ. "The first instrument built by Fisk and (Thomas) Byers which might be called a true "opus" was No. 25.... It was an entirely new organ, laid out in a manner faintly reminiscent of Holtkamp, with a neo-baroque specification." (Fisk II: His Work). ---Great: Spitzprincipal 8 Lieblich Gedeckt 8 Octave 4 Rohrflote 4 Tertian II Mixture III-V Krummhorn 8 ---Positive: Gedacktflote 8 Spitzflote 4 Principal 2 Larigot 1-1/3 Cimbel II ---Pedal: Subbass 16 Octave 8 Gedeckt 8 (Quinte 5-1/3) (Gedeckt 8) (Superoctave 4) * there was no explanation of stops marked () This was the last completely EP organ built by Fisk.   >Also in Houston is Charles Fisk, #99 at Palmer > Memorial Episcopal Church, a 3/44 with a > rather Spanish style case.   In addition to the above, there are several other very exciting organs in Houston: Christ the King Lutheran (Rice campus) 3m M Andover or Noack (I don't remember which)   St. Vincent de Paul, 3m M Rieger   First Presbyterian, GDH A-S 3m EP   Christ Church Cathedral, GDH A-S, 3m EP 2/3 A-S in chapel; both rooms are beautiful   St. Stephen's Episcopal, JW Walker 2m M   St. Anne's RC, 3m T, Visser-Rowland   Univ of Houston, Music Recital Hall 3m T, Beckerath; Religion Center Chapel 3m EP Reuter   Trinity Episcopal, 3m EP, Pilcher/Schantz     Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   When a man's dog turns against him it is time for his wife to pack her trunk and go home to mama. -- Mark Twain    
(back) Subject: Re: Church Latin pronunciation (longish) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:42:25 -0700   At 04:20 PM 9/13/1999 -0700, you wrote: >I was an (Old) Catholic priest, and I think I can safely say it was NEVER >"sahn", nor did the sources ever say it was ...<snip>   oh YEAH? Well, I'm a recovering Catholic too, pal, 'n I always heard it said "sahn", with a really 'round' a!! Oh...wait a minute! I forgot the Irish inflection enters into all this! Hmmmmmm...   heheheheh!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: check! From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:03:21 -0500   Thanks Bruce!   Now to get into that leather....   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Church Latin pronunciation From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:57:32 -0400 (EDT)   May I suggest a wonderful video by Constantine Tsoulinau (pardon spelling) and James Jordan on Choir Diction. The exact title escapes me. In it they discuss in a very detailed manner the various ways to approach Latin (and other languages too). IF I remember, I'll bring it home from church and post the correct info. I just took it TO church last week after cleaning around my environs in the bedroom. Oh well. You may not agree w/ everything they do, but they are quite authoritative and knowledgeable and offer lots of tidbits for the choral director. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: check! From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:00:12 -0500   Sorry list, wrong reply again!   We're talking receipt of funds for redoing penumatic leather....   Whew!...     John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Church Latin pronunciation From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:05:16 -0400 (EDT)   Thanks Bud for the thorough lexicon, which I enjoyed. But, where did we get EGGSHELL Latin from? I've often thought it sounded better as EGGSHELLSEES, I guess cause it's not so choppy. Do the English Choirs sing it this way? OR is this a European regional variant that some how made it across the pond? --Neil    
(back) Subject: variations in Latin pronunciation From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:02:34 -0700   Now, having laid down the "Roman Law", I hasten to add that it's desirable (and in some cases NECESSARY) to know the national variants of Latin pronunciation, particularly when performing the Masses of Mozart and = Haydn, whether in church or in concert. They both wrote for what was the accepted germanic pronunciation of Latin at the time, and in some cases it's impossible to use the Roman pronunciation without changing the underlay and/or the note values ... something that few priests EVER insisted on, = even in the "bad old days".   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: check! From: prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:22:51 -0400   Jon, I'm glad you clarified that! I thought S & M was Salicional and Mixture. Gives a whole new meaning to "just whipping something together for tomorrow's service."   Paul (Going to bed before I get in trouble)   John Vanderlee wrote:   > Sorry list, > wrong reply again! > > We're talking receipt of funds for redoing penumatic leather.... > > Whew!... > > John V > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: ..what to do...what to do...what to do...??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:13:18 EDT     Greetings,   I've been asked to play a concert in a church whose congregation isn't used to hearing classical organ works. Their organist plays using chord symbols, uses only the first 13 pedals and has no repertoire other than hymns. I don't want to plow right in with really = heavy organ works, but I do want to give them a good show. Since the organist = they hear on a regular basis never plays anything classical, they might react negatively to the music of Vierne, Boellmann and Widor. Can any of you suggest pieces that are not too zofty but still nice? Thanks.   Carlo   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Houston Trip From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:19:38 -0400   Hey!   It's gettin' wild down here -- big blowwwwwwww!   They're closing the airports in the morning at 9:00 AM.   It will probably be fine this weekend. And I'd hate for you to pass up a chance to go to the Keys.!   Sleep tight. I hope we can! :)     At 08:55 PM 9/13/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 99-09-13 20:46:55 EDT, you write: > ><< Darryl by the Sea > Taking a break from securing the Miller fortress for the arrival of = Floyd > >> >Do you think it will be safe to fly to Key West this weekend, = hurricane-wise? >Maddened Mid-atlanticers need to know! > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Church Latin pronunciation From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:28:06 -0700   I think "eggshell Latin" is a descendant (or parent) of "choral directors' Latin", as mentioned earlier. I recall the English choirs I heard in = service using the usual Roman Latin pronunciation (at least for Renaissance = Masses), and the germanic pronunciation is "ex-CELL-sis", so it didn't come from either of those sources.   Cheers,   Bud   N Brown wrote:   > Thanks Bud for the thorough lexicon, which I enjoyed. But, where did > we get EGGSHELL Latin from? I've often thought it sounded better as > EGGSHELLSEES, I guess cause it's not so choppy. Do the English Choirs > sing it this way? > OR is this a European regional variant that some how made it across the > pond? > --Neil > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: ..what to do...what to do...what to do...??? From: Evelyn Rowe <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:37:09 -0400   Aw, go ahead and start with the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. Lots of people will already know it, think it's part of the score for _Phantom of the Opera_. 8^) They'll probably enjoy "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring," = too, or anything else with a recognizable tune.   You don't say what the resources of the instrument are, but I'd include at least one piece that demonstrates the variety of sounds you can make and another (especially if the audience can see you) that shows what you can = do with the pedals. Has Joyce Jones ever published her arrangement of = "Flight of the Bumblebee"?   Evie   At 11:13 PM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Greetings, > > I've been asked to play a concert in a church whose >congregation isn't used to hearing classical organ works. Their organist >plays using chord symbols, uses only the first 13 pedals and has no >repertoire other than hymns. I don't want to plow right in with really = heavy >organ works, but I do want to give them a good show. Since the organist = they >hear on a regular basis never plays anything classical, they might react >negatively to the music of Vierne, Boellmann and Widor. Can any of you >suggest pieces that are not too zofty but still nice? Thanks. > >Carlo > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: ..what to do...what to do...what to do...??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:43:18 EDT   Evelyn & list,   the organ at the church in question is a 1980's Baldwin with = a 32-note pedalboard and the congregation will be able to see me as the console is movable. I've played there before so they've heard my style...although one member of the congregation did make a comment about = the postlude. She said "is the postlude there so the organist can hear how = loud he/she can play?" Oh well, how bad can it possibly turn out? *crossing fingers*   Carlo   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Holy Eucharist and Baptism; St. James Church, Hendersonville, NC From: Barry and Claire Bodie <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:04:44 -0400   Holy Eucharist and Baptism Sunday, 12 September 1999 St. James Church Hendersonville, NC   Voluntary: Piece Heroique Cesar Franck   Processional Hymn: "Praise my Soul, The King of Heaven" Lauda anima   Gospel Hymn: "Forgive Our Sins as We Forgive" Detroit   Anthem: "Expectans Expectavi" Charles Wood   Offertory Hymn: "O Bless The Lord, My Soul" St. Thomas   Communion Hymn: "Let Thy Blood In Mercy Poured" Jesu, meine Zuversicht   Recessional Hymn: "Praise to the Lord! The Almighty" Lobe den Herren   Postlude: "Ave Maris Stella" (Amen: Finale) Marcel Dupre   Bev Ward played his heart out for my daughter's Baptism yesterday. After playing for a special Holy Eucharist service for lay ministers on Saturday morning and a lengthy wedding on Saturday afternoon, Bev opened the = service by playing Frank's "Piece Heroique." Perfectly suited to the service of Baptism, Franck's classic piece opens with a sinister theme in a minor key representing evil and all its forces. The minor theme is then replaced by = a second, more feminine theme representing good and innocence. This theme is followed by an exposition and a recurrence of the first theme, in effect, dueling with the second theme. Finally, the second theme blossoms into = full glory at the conclusion of the piece representing the triumph of good over evil. I must admit this is a somewhat simplistic theorization on Franck's masterpiece; but, it provides a background for the appropriateness of this piece for the service of Baptism.   The hymns were all played with a delightful boldness. Bev wrote his own accompaniment for the last three verses of the processional and = recessional hymns. The soprano descant on the final stanza of each hymn brought tears = to my eyes. His use of the Festival Trumpet to solo the melody in the third stanza of "Lobe den Herren" made the hair on my neck stand straight up.   I was unfamiliar with the Charles Wood anthem "Expectans Expectavi." The words to the anthem were written by C.H. Sorley and are completely appropriate for the service of Baptism. I will be happy to provide the = text of the anthem privately to those of you who may desire receipt. The music was thoroughly Victorian. The anthem opens "a capella" and soars into a = full organ accompaniment before drifting off into a contemplative quietness.   Likewise, I was unfamiliar with the Dupre postlude which Mr Ward played. = It is a toccata-like piece which opens full organ and ends two minutes later with both swell boxes closed in a whisper of flue sound. At the conclusion of the postlude, the thirty or so parishioners who remained in their seats or moved closer to the organ console begged for an encore.   Mr Ward put the new Harrison and Harrison instrument through its paces. = The Franck prelude exhibited the depth and breadth of the organ and Mr Ward's mastery of its resources led one parishioner to burst into embarrassingly solitary, though enthusiastic applause at its full organ conclusion. I suppose she was so moved by Bev's playing that she could not contain herself. I, too, wanted to applaud and shout "Bravo!", but a sleeping baby in my arms prevented me from doing so.   All in all, the service was a wonderful testament to the power of music in worship. Those of you who think the organ may be on its last leg in contemporary Christian worship should come to Hendersonville to hear this exquisite instrument played sensitively and expertly by one of the finest organists I have known.   Look out!!! Marilyn Keiser comes to town next week, playing some English Flourishes and Fanfares on the Mighty Harrison and Harrison and ending her recital with Vierne's magnificent "Final" from the First Organ Symphony. Please join us!        
(back) Subject: Re: check! From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:36:18 -0500       At 9/13/99 11:22 PM, Paul wrote: >Jon, >I'm glad you clarified that! I thought S & M was Salicional and Mixture. >Gives a whole new meaning to "just whipping something together for >tomorrow's service." > >Paul (Going to bed before I get in trouble) > >John Vanderlee wrote: > >> Sorry list, >> wrong reply again! >> >> We're talking receipt of funds for redoing penumatic leather.... >> >> Whew!... >> >> John V     John...and Paul...   Thanks to both for the clarifications...although the idea of Brucie in a motorcycle jacket and etc. WAS starting to become rather an amusing thought...<G>   Perhaps the subject line "Re: check" stands for "REALITY CHECK"...?   (Also going to bed before I get into trouble......)   Tim