PipeChat Digest #1090 - Thursday, September 23, 1999
Re: All Hallows - Pipe Screams
  by "bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: non-Christian organists in Christian churches
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk>

(back) Subject: Re: All Hallows - Pipe Screams From: bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:14:21 -0700   I can't locate the Vigil Mass for the Eve of All Saints' Day for some = reason, but I know it exists, or at least existed in the past, because we kept it = in the monastery ... perhaps it's peculiar to Benedictines, but I doubt it. = At any rate, it was a purple day of fast and abstinence, as were/are most Vigils = of major Feasts.   As to the story of Halloween, one Christian interpretation has it that the = Poor Souls returned from Purgatory to ask for Masses to be said for their = souls; if Masses weren't forthcoming, they "haunted" the penny-pinchers ... hence = "Trick or Treat". Another has it that the veil between the Church Militant and = the Church Expectant is very thin at certain times, specifically All Hallows = (and the Easter Vigil, among others), and that (like the events in Jerusalem following the Crucifixion), the Saints appeared to the faithful. I find = the second less fanciful ... I often see (through the eyes of faith) the Hosts = of Heaven gathered round the Altar at the Consecration of the Mass.   Cheers,   Bud (who's neither saint nor mystic ... I just tells 'em like I sees 'em)   dgoward wrote:   > You say: > What =3D > a > wonderful opportunity for the church to explain the story of Halloween = to =3D > the > community. > > I say: > > Personally, I don't think the church has any business celebrating > Hallow 'een. What "story of halloween" would you explain? > > You say: > I bet Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny visit your house and > church. Explain that one. > > I Say; > Nope -- sure don't. But even so, there's a long stretch from fuzzy > bunnies to ghosts and vampires, don'tcha think? > > Dennis Goward > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: non-Christian organists in Christian churches From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:40:34 -0700   At 09:43 PM 9/22/1999 -0700, Budgie wrote:   >Not necessarily, but, with respect, I wonder if you could really put your= heart >(and soul) (grin) into leading the Body of Christ in that place through the >Church's Year of Grace. Perhaps you might consider the Unitarians ... they >usually pay well, and you can do literally ANYTHING for music, from opera >scenes to Broadway musicals to ballet to ...<snip>   I played for a Unitarian-Universalist church once. Historic old red stone church with a 1905 tube-pneu M=F6ller. They were the most musical savvy and least politically bitchy congregation I ever served! I really had to dust off the old late 19th century stuff, though, since doing the high Baroque on THAT organ was nigh impossible. Also, the action was slow enough so that I could play the hymns and voluntaries before the service started, and then sit in the nave while it finally played! OK, joke..joke...hehehhee!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: HALLOEEN, SHUT THE HELL UP! From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:01:37 +0100   It was the same last year, and the year before etc, etc, etc.   O God, you lot have only been talking about it for 24hrs, AND I, FOR ONE, AM SICK OF IT ALREADY!!!!     Richard Scott-Copeland Southampton England