PipeChat Digest #1092 - Friday, September 24, 1999
 
Re: design a small organ
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Halloween
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Halloween
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Halloween
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Lee Dettra's Oct  3 program + Havoc wreaked by H. Floyd on parts of WP's 
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: Halloween
  by "bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: video music
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re: video music
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: design a small organ
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Halloween
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: design a small organ
  by "bud" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:02:47 -0400   11 ranks (12 if counting 16' Bourdon on Pedal), 52 stop controls (yes, guys, unification, but to a nice extent)   Great: 8 Diapason 8 Chimney Flute 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) 8 Gemshorn 4 Octave (smaller scale than 8') 4 Rohr Gedeckt (ext Ch. Flt.) 4 Gedeckt (Sw) 4 Gemshorn (ext) 2 2/3 Gemshorn (ext) 2 Gemshorn (ext) 1 3/5 Gemshorn (ext) 1 1/3 Gemshorn (ext) 8 Trumpet (Sw) (small scale) Chimes (21 or 25 notes, 25 notes prefered) 16 Great to Great Great Unison Off 4 Great to Great 16 Swell to Great 8 Swell to Great 4 Swell to Great   Swell: 16 Bourdon (ext) 8 Dulciana (small scale Diapason) (miniature Diapason) 8 Rohr Gedeckt 8 Salicional 8 Voix Celeste (#) (TC) 8 Unda Maris (b) (TC) 4 Dulcet (smaller scale than 8') (miniature Octave) 4 Gedeckt (ext) 4 Salicet (ext) 2 2/3 Nazard (ext R.G.) 2 Fifteenth (ext Sal.) 2 Piccolo (ext R.G.) 16 Contra Trumpet (ext) 8 Trumpet 4 Clarion (ext) Tremulant 16 Swell to Swell Swell Unison Off 4 Swell to Swell   Pedal: 16 Bourdon (enclosed in Swell if prefered) 16 Gedeckt (Sw) 10 2/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) 8 Octave (Dulciana) 8 Gedeckt (Sw) 5 1/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) 4 Gedeckt (Sw) 4 Gemshorn (Gt) 16 Fagotto (Sw) 8 Trumpet (Sw) 4 Clarion (Sw) 8 Great to Pedal 4 Great to Pedal 8 Swell to Pedal 4 Swell to Pedal   Trumpet is under seperate expression on 8 stages and it's box is located in the Swell Box. The Great is Unexpressive. The Swell is Expressive under 8 stages on individual shade movements. Could be 16 if each shade is fitted with 2 stages per shade. (Expression Stages calculated with all boxes having 8 shades each.)   Direct-Electric Action prefered, but could be electro-pneumatic action.   Solid State Switching prefered, but other's could be used.   I have played a diminuative of this organ.   THAT stoplist: Great: 8 Diapason 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) 8 Gemshorn 4 Octave 4 Gedeckt (Sw) 4 Gemshorn (ext) 2 2/3 Gemshorn 2 Gemshorn 1 3/5 Gemshorn Chimes (21 notes) 16 G/G 4 G/G 16 S/G 8 S/G 4 S/G   Swell: 8 Rohr Gedeckt 8 Gamba 4 Gedeckt (ext) 4 Gambette (ext) 2 2/3 Nazard (R.G.) 2 Piccolo (ext) 8 Trumpet Tremolo 16 S/S 4 S/S   Pedal: 16 Rohr Bourdon (Sw) 8 Diapason (Gt) 5 1/3 Quint (Sw) 4 Gedeckt (Sw) 4 Gemshorn (Gt) 8 G/P 4 G/P 8 S/P 4 G/P   Entire Organ under expression between 5-8 stages.   As you can see, it was prett bland. The Trumpet was not harsh, course, loud. It was more like a slightly louder, smooth-toned Oboe. The entire organ should be monument to small-organ building. (Even though it is a 1970's Wicks organ with it's remote electro-mechanical C/A Action of 3 pistons per division with a canceler for each division and a General Cancel. Plus an electro-mechanical relay system, but the organ was playing just like the day it was installed even though it hasn't been used in 3 years. It was also in remarkable tune for not being tuned for also 2 years.) The shades were ganged together with a main 5-8 stage motor in the center. it was housed in a chamber about 12' wide by 4 or 5' deep. With a ceiling 6' tall at the chamber opening and 3.5' tall at the back of the chamber. It is not being used right now (synthesisers, guitars, drums, sub-woofers (located on the bench which made it hard to play). So I think I'll pull a crying stunt on the church so I can get a good deal on it.   Well, there's my suggestion. It it isn't used, I think I'll enlarge the other one to it.     Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:25:37 -0400 (EDT)     >Pssst! Don't tell anyone, but Brewse has been > known to "trick-or-treat" around his > neighborhood, dressed as a Bawldwin Spinet! >hehehehehehehe! Laugh if you will, but can you think of a scarier costume than a Bald-one spinet?? And its not easy running through the bushes with 13 broomsticks attached to one foot yelling "boom chikky boom chikky boom chikky boom....!! ;-)   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:16:20 -0500     >And its not easy running through the bushes with 13 broomsticks attached >to one foot yelling "boom chikky boom chikky boom chikky boom....!!   The dogs would give you away....   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween From: Evelyn Rowe <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:17:48 -0400   At 12:14 AM 9/23/99 -0400, you wrote: >Friends, as I so seldom do, I am landing squarely in between the 2 >viewpoints on this issue. Let me explain. > I can't stand the fact that Halloween is a 3 day holiday here in Toms >River. Mischief nite is on the 29th, because Trick or Treat is on the >30th, because the largest parade on the eastern seaboard falls on 31st.   I know how you must feel. I live in a downtown Washington neighborhood that can be fairly described as "Castro East." My building is on a little two-block commercial strip and right across from one of the busiest and most notorious bars in town, which sponsors the annual High Heel Race. It's a gas to watch a bunch of guys trying to run in 4-inch heels, and I enjoy the costumes (I remember the year Madonna's book came out and = several guys showed up dressed as it). BUT it's very noisy and I wish they'd observe the Halloween custom, so nicely depicted in "A Night on Bald Mountain," where all the witches and goblins disappear on the stroke of midnight.   When we boomers were kids, Halloween was fun because no one took any of = its appurtenances seriously. Now, unfortunately, there are people who do, and those of us who are Christians (including Catholics of all kinds) need to rethink our position on the observance.     Evie   mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com  
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:55:19 -0500 (CDT)   On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Jason D. Comet wrote: > 11 ranks (12 if counting 16' Bourdon on Pedal), 52 stop controls (yes, > guys, unification, but to a nice extent) Gott in Himmel! I think you've gone past the point of unification to a "nice extent" and have now approached the vicinity of unification "up = the wazoo" (technical term).   > Trumpet is under seperate expression on 8 stages and it's box is located > in the Swell Box. Whatever happened to a simple mechanical expression pedal, with an infinite number of "stages"?   > Direct-Electric Action prefered, but could be electro-pneumatic action. UGH, you're not serious are you? In a few years, electric slider chests might start to look promising, but a direct electric?   Robert Horton - GTA, University of Kansas http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn   "...desperately trying to understand why kamikaze pilots wore helmets."    
(back) Subject: Lee Dettra's Oct 3 program + Havoc wreaked by H. Floyd on parts of WP's Cadet Chapel From: Pat Maimone <patmai@juno.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:59:10 -0400   Hello, List!   Here are some more details on information previously posted..   The Program scheduled by Mr. Lee Dettra, Organist-Choirmaster, USMA for 3:30 PM on Sunday, October 3, at West Point's Cadet Chapel, is as follows: Bruce Campbell Trumpet Tune David Hurd Evening Song Bach Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C Schumann Two Sketches Egner Official West Point March Dupre Ave Maris Stella (all 4 mvts) Rorem Quaker Reader ( 3 mvts) Myron Roberts Homage to Perotin.   Admission is free; parking may be a problem. For info re parking, please call 914-938-2308 toward the end of next week. Do plan to arrive early! That will probably be my first day back at work after tomorrow morning's surgery.. We shall see..   Lee Dettra's report on the havoc caused by the overpowering rains of Hurricane Floyd last week: " Damage to organ was not as extensive as we feared. Hauptwerk and Transept Pedal are unplayable until we replace most of the pallets and then see if there are cracks in the chest. The same basically is true of several bass chests in the Harmonic. Mustel Celesta damaged." When Meredith Baker and I played a demonstration of the organ for some visiting educators Tuesday afternoon, we were disappointed not to be able to use some of our favorite principal and flute stops from the Transept... Thankfully, many of the other c. 324 ranks were playable!   Pat Maimone ( ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween From: bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:32:01 -0700   > I know how you must feel. I live in a downtown Washington neighborhood > that can be fairly described as "Castro East." My building is on a = little > two-block commercial strip and right across from one of the busiest and > most notorious bars in town, which sponsors the annual High Heel Race. > It's a gas to watch a bunch of guys trying to run in 4-inch heels, and I > enjoy the costumes (I remember the year Madonna's book came out and = several > guys showed up dressed as it). BUT it's very noisy and I wish they'd > observe the Halloween custom, so nicely depicted in "A Night on Bald > Mountain," where all the witches and goblins disappear on the stroke of > midnight.   Evie, if you think that's funny, you'd LOVE the "Great Tricycle Race" in = Castro WEST.   >    
(back) Subject: Re: video music From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:17:28 EDT   In a message dated 09/23/1999 7:23:07 AM Central Daylight Time, Steskinner =   writes:   << I would love to hear your page turner (or any other) story! >> Well, OK, I can't resist. Once I was asked to accompany a recital of voice students of a middle-aged =   lady of substantial proportions who was a prominent (snicker) member of = the church I was serving. She graciously volunteered to serve as my page = turner. OK, except she insisted on sitting on the piano bench with me. I bore = this assault on my territory gracefully until I was required to make an = excursion to the upper reaches of the keyboard. She didn't budge, so I bumped her rather roughly (accidentally, I swear!) in a particular part of her female =   anatomy. She retreated quickly and finished the recital turning pages = from a safe distance. At least she didn't beat time while I played, so I guess = she wasn't all bad. Maynard  
(back) Subject: Re: video music From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:12:07 -0500   Greetings to all of you. I have been watching the page turning, video-music, light bulb vs. candles threads for a while with great = interest. I personally have no problem with manually pumped organs, I don't panic = when I don't have pistons (although I get a little annoyed when I go for = General Cancel and it's not there) and I try to take my page turner out to dinner every chance I get. She likes Italian food. I am, in spite of this, = quite enthralled by what a talented musician can do with the tools of = technology, so I'm not afraid to embrace new ideas. Having said this, I must admit to all of you that the video-screen music rack is more than a futuristic = dream. I have seen it, and have even tried it. Not just for music, but for controlling an entire computer-based music system centered around a pipe organ. Do I like it? If it interests yet one more new person in the organ, then yes I do. Brent Johnson   Come see the Organ Web Ring! http://209.235.102.9/~org20050 Making the World Wide Web a better place for organs.     ----- Original Message ----- From: <Icorgan@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:17 PM Subject: Re: video music          
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:05:07 -0700   I know there are many that would not agree, but before I would have an 11 = or 12 rank pipe organ with all this unification I would choose a top of the line digital organ for about 1/2 the price. I'd have 3 manuals, 45-55 = stops and (presuming it's a Makin) some incredible sound along with flexibility = to perform all of the literature. That's my 2 cents worth ... nobody has to agree.   Jason McGuire   ---------- >From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org >Subject: Re: design a small organ >Date: Thu, Sep 16, 1999, 2:02 AM >   > 11 ranks (12 if counting 16' Bourdon on Pedal), 52 stop controls (yes, > guys, unification, but to a nice extent) > > Great: > 8 Diapason > 8 Chimney Flute > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) > 8 Gemshorn > 4 Octave (smaller scale than 8') > 4 Rohr Gedeckt (ext Ch. Flt.) > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > 4 Gemshorn (ext) > 2 2/3 Gemshorn (ext) > 2 Gemshorn (ext) > 1 3/5 Gemshorn (ext) > 1 1/3 Gemshorn (ext) > 8 Trumpet (Sw) (small scale) > Chimes (21 or 25 notes, 25 notes prefered) > 16 Great to Great > Great Unison Off > 4 Great to Great > 16 Swell to Great > 8 Swell to Great > 4 Swell to Great > > Swell: > 16 Bourdon (ext) > 8 Dulciana (small scale Diapason) (miniature Diapason) > 8 Rohr Gedeckt > 8 Salicional > 8 Voix Celeste (#) (TC) > 8 Unda Maris (b) (TC) > 4 Dulcet (smaller scale than 8') (miniature Octave) > 4 Gedeckt (ext) > 4 Salicet (ext) > 2 2/3 Nazard (ext R.G.) > 2 Fifteenth (ext Sal.) > 2 Piccolo (ext R.G.) > 16 Contra Trumpet (ext) > 8 Trumpet > 4 Clarion (ext) > Tremulant > 16 Swell to Swell > Swell Unison Off > 4 Swell to Swell > > Pedal: > 16 Bourdon (enclosed in Swell if prefered) > 16 Gedeckt (Sw) > 10 2/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) > 8 Octave (Dulciana) > 8 Gedeckt (Sw) > 5 1/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) > 16 Fagotto (Sw) > 8 Trumpet (Sw) > 4 Clarion (Sw) > 8 Great to Pedal > 4 Great to Pedal > 8 Swell to Pedal > 4 Swell to Pedal > > Trumpet is under seperate expression on 8 stages and it's box is located > in the Swell Box. > The Great is Unexpressive. > The Swell is Expressive under 8 stages on individual shade movements. > Could be 16 if each shade is fitted with 2 stages per shade. > (Expression Stages calculated with all boxes having 8 shades each.) > > Direct-Electric Action prefered, but could be electro-pneumatic action. > > Solid State Switching prefered, but other's could be used. > > I have played a diminuative of this organ. > > THAT stoplist: > Great: > 8 Diapason > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) > 8 Gemshorn > 4 Octave > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > 4 Gemshorn (ext) > 2 2/3 Gemshorn > 2 Gemshorn > 1 3/5 Gemshorn > Chimes (21 notes) > 16 G/G > 4 G/G > 16 S/G > 8 S/G > 4 S/G > > Swell: > 8 Rohr Gedeckt > 8 Gamba > 4 Gedeckt (ext) > 4 Gambette (ext) > 2 2/3 Nazard (R.G.) > 2 Piccolo (ext) > 8 Trumpet > Tremolo > 16 S/S > 4 S/S > > Pedal: > 16 Rohr Bourdon (Sw) > 8 Diapason (Gt) > 5 1/3 Quint (Sw) > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) > 8 G/P > 4 G/P > 8 S/P > 4 G/P > > Entire Organ under expression between 5-8 stages. > > As you can see, it was prett bland. The Trumpet was not harsh, course, > loud. It was more like a slightly louder, smooth-toned Oboe. The = entire > organ should be monument to small-organ building. (Even though it is a > 1970's Wicks organ with it's remote electro-mechanical C/A Action of 3 > pistons per division with a canceler for each division and a General > Cancel. Plus an electro-mechanical relay system, but the organ was > playing just like the day it was installed even though it hasn't been > used in 3 years. It was also in remarkable tune for not being tuned for > also 2 years.) > The shades were ganged together with a main 5-8 stage motor in the > center. it was housed in a chamber about 12' wide by 4 or 5' deep. = With > a ceiling 6' tall at the chamber opening and 3.5' tall at the back of = the > chamber. It is not being used right now (synthesisers, guitars, drums, > sub-woofers (located on the bench which made it hard to play). So I > think I'll pull a crying stunt on the church so I can get a good deal on > it. > > Well, there's my suggestion. It it isn't used, I think I'll enlarge the > other one to it. > > > Jason Comet > bombarde8@juno.com > |\ Organist/Choir Director > | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ > O ~20 member choir > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:12:06 -0400 (EDT)     > before I would have an 11 or 12 rank pipe > organ with all this unification I would choose a > top of the line digital organ for about 1/2 the > price. But consider the exquisite beauty of a well constructed, voiced and finished STRAIGHT organ of 11 or 12 ranks, each rank doing exactly what it is supposed to do. I would much rather have the real thing in miniature than a huge imitation with 40 or 50 recorded or reporduced sounds.     bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Halloween From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:23:18 -0400 (EDT)   >>Actually, I have less trouble with a preponderance of Christmas decorations.<< Bruce, that was my point.   Better caught than taught. . .better taught than not.    
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:22:16 -0700   That's what makes the world go around, different ideas. Even with 12 straight ranks, which, if beautifully built and voiced and which would = sound wonderful for what they are, how would you play things like the organ symphonies of Vierne and Widor in a reasonably authentic manner? I would tire of the lack of variety of sound and the ensemble limitations.   That's not to say a 12 rank straight organ is undesirable; it's just not = for me. Now, if the situation allows for 45-50 pipe stops, that's a different story altogether. A John Paul Buzzard instrument of 50 stops is something = I would love to have; but, if my budget is $55,000-$60,000 then I'll go with the Makin. It's extremely satisfying in sound, very convincing, and gives = me the flexibility and variety I want in an instrument.   Jason McGuire   > >> before I would have an 11 or 12 rank pipe >> organ with all this unification I would choose a >> top of the line digital organ for about 1/2 the >> price. > But consider the exquisite beauty of a well constructed, voiced and > finished STRAIGHT organ of 11 or 12 ranks, each rank doing exactly what > it is supposed to do. I would much rather have the real thing in > miniature than a huge imitation with 40 or 50 recorded or reporduced > sounds. > > > bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:50:05 -0700   At 12:12 AM 9/24/1999 -0400, Brewse wrote:   >I would much rather have the real thing in >miniature than a huge imitation with 40 or 50 recorded or reporduced >sounds.<snip>   ....this from "BALD-ONE MAN", himself! Hmmph! BOOM chaka chaka chaka BOOM chaka chaka chaka!   hehehehehhee!    
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: bud <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:48:39 -0700   What would be wrong with twelve STRAIGHT stops over two manuals and = pedals? If you put them on electric slider chests and could talk somebody into = building you a console with FULL couplers (as in Sw 16-U-4, Sw/Gt 16-8-4, Gt 16-U-4, = Sw/Ped 8-4, Gt/Ped 8-4), it would still have enough "oomph" to play romantic = music. Look at the studio and house organs that Cavaille-Coll built. Some of = those studios were the size of the average American church!   GREAT (61 notes, unenclosed)   8' Open Diapason (generous scale) 8' Harmonic Flute 4' Octave 2' Mixture III   SWELL   8' Stopt Diapason 4' Chimney Flute 2 2/3' Cornet III (full compass) 8' Reed (big Oboe or small Trumpet)   PEDAL   16' Sub Bass (stopped wood, generous scale) 10 2/3' Quint (a personal quirk of mine) - stopped wood, smaller scale 8' Octave Bass 16' or 8' Reed, depending on space and budget.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:03:01 -0700   All true, but I'd miss the Gambe and Voix Celeste, the 2' Flute, the = Nasard 2-2/3, the Clarinet, the 32' Double Open Wood, the Unda Maris, etc., etc. = Of course, back in Cavaille-Coll's time, there were no digital alternatives. When one takes into account the use of the instrument, if a particular church's program can be satisfied with the few stops listed, then the = organ does its job. My needs and desires would never be met with that small an instrument. I'm very much at home with 4 manuals, 100+ ranks ... lots of variety, color and options. And yes, I did play for a church that had a 12-rank Moller (with celeste) but I found it difficult to get enough = variety for service playing. When I played on a 4M Skinner with 238 ranks I almost always had what I wanted, but I never played that one for a service (now, that's a little extreme, most organs just aren't that big, I know ...). = -:)   Cheers, Jason   > What would be wrong with twelve STRAIGHT stops over two manuals and = pedals? If > you put them on electric slider chests and could talk somebody into = building you > a console with FULL couplers (as in Sw 16-U-4, Sw/Gt 16-8-4, Gt 16-U-4, = Sw/Ped > 8-4, Gt/Ped 8-4), it would still have enough "oomph" to play romantic = music. > Look at the studio and house organs that Cavaille-Coll built. Some of = those > studios were the size of the average American church! > > GREAT (61 notes, unenclosed) > > 8' Open Diapason (generous scale) > 8' Harmonic Flute > 4' Octave > 2' Mixture III > > SWELL > > 8' Stopt Diapason > 4' Chimney Flute > 2 2/3' Cornet III (full compass) > 8' Reed (big Oboe or small Trumpet) > > PEDAL > > 16' Sub Bass (stopped wood, generous scale) > 10 2/3' Quint (a personal quirk of mine) - stopped wood, smaller scale > 8' Octave Bass > 16' or 8' Reed, depending on space and budget. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >