PipeChat Digest #1095 - Saturday, September 25, 1999
 
Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted)
  by "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: check!
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted)
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Dual Console Organs
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Instrument in The House of God and small flaky pastries.
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: HALLOEEN, SHUT THE HELL UP!
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Some real issues (was Amens on Hymns)
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted)
  by "David McPeak <Mack>" <dm726@delphi.com>
Duel Console Municipal Organs
  by "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Re: Instrument in The House of God
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Pedal balance... was Trio registration
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: design a small organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Dual Console Organs
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Needed- Adeste Fideles arr. F. Van Tilburg
  by "Jan Vanderstad" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Memphis kimball
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted)
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted) From: "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 07:38:19 -0500   Medinah Temple Austin in Chicago has a main 5M draw knob console and a movable 4M all electric stop key console. Both consoles control the whole organ = and the movable is the console of choice for recitals as it can be more visible = and gives the organist a better chance to hear the organ. (The 5m is located beneath one of the chamber grills)   jch     -      
(back) Subject: Re: check! From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:28:12 PDT         >> >Bruce, I'm just gonna shut up! Thanks for nuttin'! > >:-) > >John V     "GOOD ANSWER! GOD ANSWER!   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted) From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:33:21 -0400   > a list of dual console organs   Don't know if either is still in operation, but check on:   Civic Auditorium, Minneapolis   Civic Auditorium, San Francisco   Jim Lokken, whom you may know from piporg-l, is much more up on both = venues than I.   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Dual Console Organs From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:37:10 -0400   There is a dual console organ in the Philadelphia ?Civic Center, one is classical and the other is theatre, on a very large Moller in a large = space which was scheduled for demolition but is now on hold. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Instrument in The House of God and small flaky pastries. From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:54:18 PDT         > > WHAT??!! No more "In the Garden of Eden"??! AWWWWWWWWW!     "...And he rocks with me and he rolls with me and he tells me I am his = own." 1999 Rock translation of the old hymn "In the Garden"   Rev. E.D.   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: HALLOEEN, SHUT THE HELL UP! From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:58:16 PDT   >Subject: HALLOEEN, SHUT THE HELL UP!   >O God, you lot have only been talking about it for 24hrs, AND I, FOR = ONE, >AM SICK OF IT ALREADY!!!!   >Richard, PAH-LEEEZE! Let us try to be civil in our responses ;]   God Bless You   Rev. E.D. "The Church of What's Happening Now"   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted) From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:07:17 -0500   > > a list of dual console organs > >Don't know if either is still in operation, but check on: > >Civic Auditorium, Minneapolis > >Civic Auditorium, San Francisco   Austin Opus 500 which was in the Civic Auditorium in San Francisco never had two console at the same time - the current console is the second one for the instrument replacing the original one.   David    
(back) Subject: Re: Some real issues (was Amens on Hymns) From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 07:07:25 PDT   I have been told by >> priests that the entrance hymn is for the "entrance"of the priest who = is >>"Lord for an hour", >>   What happens if the service goes over one hour? Who THEN is Lord?   Rev. E.D. "Enquirer Church of Perpetual Motion"   >(Just kidding about the express down stuff!) > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted) From: "David McPeak <Mack>" <dm726@delphi.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:29:24 -0400       Alan Freed wrote:   > > a list of dual console organs > >   I don't know if his counts, but at St. Paul's Cathedral in Boston has a = 4/? Aeolian-Skinner in the rear balcony and I believe a three manual/? Andover = in the front. You can play the A-S from the front console but not the = reverse. Also there are no stop tabs for the A-S on the Andover console just = through the combo action.   Cheers, Dave McPeak    
(back) Subject: Duel Console Municipal Organs From: Will Scarboro <whs1325@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:42:44 -0400     There are four examples of duel console municipal organs. First, the 1928 =   Kimball formerly in the Minneapolis Auditorium has a five manual console controlling 122 ranks, and a four manual theatre console controlling 24 ranks. Its quite an organ and those who have heard it know what a sound it =   makes. Its been in storage since 1987 waiting for a new home. I hope it finds one soon!   The 1931 Moller in the Philadelphia Convention Hall has two consoles also =   just like the Kimball. The four manual drawknob console controls 87 ranks of pipes, and the four manual theatre console controls about 20 ranks of pipes. This organ also has an artiste roll player that has full control of =   all 88 ranks of pipes. It has its own set of 20 pre-set combinations for the rolls, plus the ability to control the crescendo pedal. The roll = player can play all four manuals and pedal together and also has control over the =   swell shades. Its quite an experience to here a roll played on this = organ. Surly, one of the largest automatic pipe organs in the world.   The 1928 Kimball formerly of the Memphis Auditorium has two consoles for two separate organs. The five manual console controls both organs, the 74 North Hall organ with Echo and the 41 rank South Hall organ. The other = four manual console controls only the 41 rank South Hall organ. Both organs could be played together by using both consoles at one time. This organ is =   in storage and for sale. It is likely that the two organs will be split = up. I have not heard these organs but understand from Scott that they made quite a sound.   The Midmer-Losh in the main auditorium of the Atlantic City Convention Hall had two consoles although now the five manual one is disconnected. Both consoles played all 449 ranks of pipes, but the smaller five manual console had fewer unifications then the main console.   Two church organs that have duplicate consoles are 1st Congo., LA and the =   Crystal Cathedral in Garden Grove, CA.   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro     Will Scarboro, Organ Historian American Municipal Pipe Organ Research Project 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow Student - Florida State University School of Music Home of the Mighty Holtkamp    
(back) Subject: Re: Instrument in The House of God From: Bob Loesch <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:19:25 -0700   At 08:51 PM 09/22/1999 -0700, bud wrote: >> Let's get it together here Ladies and Gentlemen. If we want the Organ, = our >> instrument of choice, to be popular > >Is "popular" our object, or the leading of the worship of Almighty God?   In my not-at-all-humble opinion, the ORGAN is our interest! = Unfortunately, many "Praze Bands" have PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that the average church-goer will accept almost ANY sort of music. If we want to retain the ORGAN for ANY reason, popular or religious, we must make it appeal to the MAJORITY.     Regards,   Bob   http://www.jps.net/rrloesch   Time flies whether you're having fun or not!   The best things in life aren't THINGS.  
(back) Subject: Pedal balance... was Trio registration From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 11:53:12 -0400 (EDT)     >Many organs I've played have an 8' Principal > in the pedal which is considerably heavier > than the Great 8' Principal.... For a while it seemed the rule of thumb was that the Great must be loud enough to provide full organ volume, the Swell would contained reed chorus, flutes and strings, and the Choir soft stuff with a Clarinet. The Pedal was loud enough to support everything.   I have only played a few organs in which the Great and Pedal seemed to be conceived as a unit (in the good sense!) so that the Pedal stops did not overpower their individual counterparts on the Great. The pedal does need to be able to support full organ, but more often than not this can be accomplished by adding the 16 Bourdon to the Principal, providing the gravity or roundness not present in the Principal. However, I think it's okay if the 16 Principal is sligtly larger than might be expected; it is important, however, that the 8 Principal in the Pedal be able to properly balance with the Great 8 Principal. Of course, if funds are available it's nice to have a large open wood to do the work!   This is one of the big problems with unified 16 and 8 stops in the pedal and duplexed 16s from the manuals. The volume just never seems to be right.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:10:12 -0700   This means you are a three manual organist! ego ego ego Jeanne Demessieux played a 15 rank Cavaille-Coll for years in Paris BEFORE she got the job at the Madeleine.   Blaine   Jason McGuire wrote:   > I know there are many that would not agree, but before I would have an = 11 or > 12 rank pipe organ with all this unification I would choose a top of the > line digital organ for about 1/2 the price. I'd have 3 manuals, 45-55 = stops > and (presuming it's a Makin) some incredible sound along with = flexibility to > perform all of the literature. That's my 2 cents worth ... nobody has to > agree. > > Jason McGuire > > ---------- > >From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> > >To: pipechat@pipechat.org > >Subject: Re: design a small organ > >Date: Thu, Sep 16, 1999, 2:02 AM > > > > > 11 ranks (12 if counting 16' Bourdon on Pedal), 52 stop controls (yes, > > guys, unification, but to a nice extent) > > > > Great: > > 8 Diapason > > 8 Chimney Flute > > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) > > 8 Gemshorn > > 4 Octave (smaller scale than 8') > > 4 Rohr Gedeckt (ext Ch. Flt.) > > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 4 Gemshorn (ext) > > 2 2/3 Gemshorn (ext) > > 2 Gemshorn (ext) > > 1 3/5 Gemshorn (ext) > > 1 1/3 Gemshorn (ext) > > 8 Trumpet (Sw) (small scale) > > Chimes (21 or 25 notes, 25 notes prefered) > > 16 Great to Great > > Great Unison Off > > 4 Great to Great > > 16 Swell to Great > > 8 Swell to Great > > 4 Swell to Great > > > > Swell: > > 16 Bourdon (ext) > > 8 Dulciana (small scale Diapason) (miniature Diapason) > > 8 Rohr Gedeckt > > 8 Salicional > > 8 Voix Celeste (#) (TC) > > 8 Unda Maris (b) (TC) > > 4 Dulcet (smaller scale than 8') (miniature Octave) > > 4 Gedeckt (ext) > > 4 Salicet (ext) > > 2 2/3 Nazard (ext R.G.) > > 2 Fifteenth (ext Sal.) > > 2 Piccolo (ext R.G.) > > 16 Contra Trumpet (ext) > > 8 Trumpet > > 4 Clarion (ext) > > Tremulant > > 16 Swell to Swell > > Swell Unison Off > > 4 Swell to Swell > > > > Pedal: > > 16 Bourdon (enclosed in Swell if prefered) > > 16 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 10 2/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) > > 8 Octave (Dulciana) > > 8 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 5 1/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) > > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) > > 16 Fagotto (Sw) > > 8 Trumpet (Sw) > > 4 Clarion (Sw) > > 8 Great to Pedal > > 4 Great to Pedal > > 8 Swell to Pedal > > 4 Swell to Pedal > > > > Trumpet is under seperate expression on 8 stages and it's box is = located > > in the Swell Box. > > The Great is Unexpressive. > > The Swell is Expressive under 8 stages on individual shade movements. > > Could be 16 if each shade is fitted with 2 stages per shade. > > (Expression Stages calculated with all boxes having 8 shades each.) > > > > Direct-Electric Action prefered, but could be electro-pneumatic = action. > > > > Solid State Switching prefered, but other's could be used. > > > > I have played a diminuative of this organ. > > > > THAT stoplist: > > Great: > > 8 Diapason > > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) > > 8 Gemshorn > > 4 Octave > > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 4 Gemshorn (ext) > > 2 2/3 Gemshorn > > 2 Gemshorn > > 1 3/5 Gemshorn > > Chimes (21 notes) > > 16 G/G > > 4 G/G > > 16 S/G > > 8 S/G > > 4 S/G > > > > Swell: > > 8 Rohr Gedeckt > > 8 Gamba > > 4 Gedeckt (ext) > > 4 Gambette (ext) > > 2 2/3 Nazard (R.G.) > > 2 Piccolo (ext) > > 8 Trumpet > > Tremolo > > 16 S/S > > 4 S/S > > > > Pedal: > > 16 Rohr Bourdon (Sw) > > 8 Diapason (Gt) > > 5 1/3 Quint (Sw) > > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) > > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) > > 8 G/P > > 4 G/P > > 8 S/P > > 4 G/P > > > > Entire Organ under expression between 5-8 stages. > > > > As you can see, it was prett bland. The Trumpet was not harsh, = course, > > loud. It was more like a slightly louder, smooth-toned Oboe. The = entire > > organ should be monument to small-organ building. (Even though it is = a > > 1970's Wicks organ with it's remote electro-mechanical C/A Action of 3 > > pistons per division with a canceler for each division and a General > > Cancel. Plus an electro-mechanical relay system, but the organ was > > playing just like the day it was installed even though it hasn't been > > used in 3 years. It was also in remarkable tune for not being tuned = for > > also 2 years.) > > The shades were ganged together with a main 5-8 stage motor in the > > center. it was housed in a chamber about 12' wide by 4 or 5' deep. = With > > a ceiling 6' tall at the chamber opening and 3.5' tall at the back of = the > > chamber. It is not being used right now (synthesisers, guitars, = drums, > > sub-woofers (located on the bench which made it hard to play). So I > > think I'll pull a crying stunt on the church so I can get a good deal = on > > it. > > > > Well, there's my suggestion. It it isn't used, I think I'll enlarge = the > > other one to it. > > > > > > Jason Comet > > bombarde8@juno.com > > |\ Organist/Choir Director > > | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ > > O ~20 member choir > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: design a small organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:39:45 -0700   No, not ego at all. I'm talking about what I personally like. Some folks = are happy with smaller instruments, that's fine ... and there are some very beautiful ones around, I'm sure. I still prefer 3 manuals and a wide = choice of tonal colors from which to choose. That does not mean one can not make beautiful music on a well designed and built smaller organ and I have = played small 2-manual trackers that I liked. But, my preference is for larger instruments.   Jason   ---------- >From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: design a small organ >Date: Sat, Sep 25, 1999, 9:10 AM >   > This means you are a three manual organist! ego ego ego > Jeanne Demessieux played a 15 rank Cavaille-Coll for years in Paris > BEFORE she got the job at the Madeleine. > > Blaine > > Jason McGuire wrote: > >> I know there are many that would not agree, but before I would have an = 11 or >> 12 rank pipe organ with all this unification I would choose a top of = the >> line digital organ for about 1/2 the price. I'd have 3 manuals, 45-55 = stops >> and (presuming it's a Makin) some incredible sound along with = flexibility to >> perform all of the literature. That's my 2 cents worth ... nobody has = to >> agree. >> >> Jason McGuire >> >> ---------- >> >From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> >> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org >> >Subject: Re: design a small organ >> >Date: Thu, Sep 16, 1999, 2:02 AM >> > >> >> > 11 ranks (12 if counting 16' Bourdon on Pedal), 52 stop controls = (yes, >> > guys, unification, but to a nice extent) >> > >> > Great: >> > 8 Diapason >> > 8 Chimney Flute >> > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 8 Gemshorn >> > 4 Octave (smaller scale than 8') >> > 4 Rohr Gedeckt (ext Ch. Flt.) >> > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 4 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 2 2/3 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 2 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 1 3/5 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 1 1/3 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 8 Trumpet (Sw) (small scale) >> > Chimes (21 or 25 notes, 25 notes prefered) >> > 16 Great to Great >> > Great Unison Off >> > 4 Great to Great >> > 16 Swell to Great >> > 8 Swell to Great >> > 4 Swell to Great >> > >> > Swell: >> > 16 Bourdon (ext) >> > 8 Dulciana (small scale Diapason) (miniature Diapason) >> > 8 Rohr Gedeckt >> > 8 Salicional >> > 8 Voix Celeste (#) (TC) >> > 8 Unda Maris (b) (TC) >> > 4 Dulcet (smaller scale than 8') (miniature Octave) >> > 4 Gedeckt (ext) >> > 4 Salicet (ext) >> > 2 2/3 Nazard (ext R.G.) >> > 2 Fifteenth (ext Sal.) >> > 2 Piccolo (ext R.G.) >> > 16 Contra Trumpet (ext) >> > 8 Trumpet >> > 4 Clarion (ext) >> > Tremulant >> > 16 Swell to Swell >> > Swell Unison Off >> > 4 Swell to Swell >> > >> > Pedal: >> > 16 Bourdon (enclosed in Swell if prefered) >> > 16 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 10 2/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) >> > 8 Octave (Dulciana) >> > 8 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 5 1/3 Gedeckt Quint (Sw) >> > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) >> > 16 Fagotto (Sw) >> > 8 Trumpet (Sw) >> > 4 Clarion (Sw) >> > 8 Great to Pedal >> > 4 Great to Pedal >> > 8 Swell to Pedal >> > 4 Swell to Pedal >> > >> > Trumpet is under seperate expression on 8 stages and it's box is = located >> > in the Swell Box. >> > The Great is Unexpressive. >> > The Swell is Expressive under 8 stages on individual shade movements. >> > Could be 16 if each shade is fitted with 2 stages per shade. >> > (Expression Stages calculated with all boxes having 8 shades each.) >> > >> > Direct-Electric Action prefered, but could be electro-pneumatic = action. >> > >> > Solid State Switching prefered, but other's could be used. >> > >> > I have played a diminuative of this organ. >> > >> > THAT stoplist: >> > Great: >> > 8 Diapason >> > 8 Rohr Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 8 Gemshorn >> > 4 Octave >> > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 4 Gemshorn (ext) >> > 2 2/3 Gemshorn >> > 2 Gemshorn >> > 1 3/5 Gemshorn >> > Chimes (21 notes) >> > 16 G/G >> > 4 G/G >> > 16 S/G >> > 8 S/G >> > 4 S/G >> > >> > Swell: >> > 8 Rohr Gedeckt >> > 8 Gamba >> > 4 Gedeckt (ext) >> > 4 Gambette (ext) >> > 2 2/3 Nazard (R.G.) >> > 2 Piccolo (ext) >> > 8 Trumpet >> > Tremolo >> > 16 S/S >> > 4 S/S >> > >> > Pedal: >> > 16 Rohr Bourdon (Sw) >> > 8 Diapason (Gt) >> > 5 1/3 Quint (Sw) >> > 4 Gedeckt (Sw) >> > 4 Gemshorn (Gt) >> > 8 G/P >> > 4 G/P >> > 8 S/P >> > 4 G/P >> > >> > Entire Organ under expression between 5-8 stages. >> > >> > As you can see, it was prett bland. The Trumpet was not harsh, = course, >> > loud. It was more like a slightly louder, smooth-toned Oboe. The = entire >> > organ should be monument to small-organ building. (Even though it is = a >> > 1970's Wicks organ with it's remote electro-mechanical C/A Action of = 3 >> > pistons per division with a canceler for each division and a General >> > Cancel. Plus an electro-mechanical relay system, but the organ was >> > playing just like the day it was installed even though it hasn't been >> > used in 3 years. It was also in remarkable tune for not being tuned = for >> > also 2 years.) >> > The shades were ganged together with a main 5-8 stage motor in the >> > center. it was housed in a chamber about 12' wide by 4 or 5' deep. = With >> > a ceiling 6' tall at the chamber opening and 3.5' tall at the back of = the >> > chamber. It is not being used right now (synthesisers, guitars, = drums, >> > sub-woofers (located on the bench which made it hard to play). So I >> > think I'll pull a crying stunt on the church so I can get a good deal = on >> > it. >> > >> > Well, there's my suggestion. It it isn't used, I think I'll enlarge = the >> > other one to it. >> > >> > >> > Jason Comet >> > bombarde8@juno.com >> > |\ Organist/Choir Director >> > | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ >> > O ~20 member choir >> > >> > ___________________________________________________________________ >> > Get the Internet just the way you want it. >> > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! >> > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. >> > >> > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics >> > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > >> > >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:47:31 +0100   >Well, it sounds like a great sandwich, and I intend to make it sometime, but >it doesn't do my Reuter any good. So if there are any experts on the = list >willing to tell all, how do you do it? Do you stop off all but one of the >pipes on a given note, tune it to the Tuning Rank, and then tune the rest of >the mixture pipes to the now in tune mixture pipe, or do you tune each = and >every mixture pipe for that note to the Tuning Rank? Is pulling a pipe = out >of the chest equivalent to stopping off? I would savor/relish/eat up any >advice. BTW, the baked eggplant sandwich can be found at >http://www.evcom.net/~reynolds/eggplant.html.     Hi Joe, welcome to the list.   I must stress, I am not an organ tuner, but as you probably know our = organs are tuned to equal temperament, meaning some intervals are not exact. On a mixture/mutation I have always been under the impression that these intervals are exact so tuning all of the ranks of a mixture to the tuning rank would stop this,   Don't quote me on this!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:06:44 -0500   Judy A. Ollikkala wrote: > > There is a dual console organ in the Philadelphia ?Civic Center, one is > classical and the other is theatre, on a very large Moller in a large = space > which was scheduled for demolition but is now on hold.   I'm sorry, that was the one I meant in my earlier posting. I said the Aeolian at Longwood Gardens by mistake.   John  
(back) Subject: Needed- Adeste Fideles arr. F. Van Tilburg From: Jan Vanderstad <dcob@nac.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:13:23 -0400   List: I am hoping someone here can help me out. I am looking for Adeste Fideles or Komt allen tesamen (O Come, All ye Faithful) arranged by F. Van Tilburg. To my knowledge, the music contains a descant flute part and an oboe part. It is on tape from STH Records in the Netherlands. The title of the tape is "Nu Zijt Wellekome" Perhaps someone in the Netherlands can come to my assistance? Thanks. Jan Vanderstad  
(back) Subject: Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:21:06 -0400 (EDT)   > On a mixture/mutation I have always been > under the impression that these intervals are > exact so tuning all of the ranks of a mixture to > the tuning rank would stop this,   >Don't quote me on this!!!   Richard - hehehehehe I think you sort of took care of that yourself. hehehehehehe   I've always heard the tuners tune mixtures with the tuning rank on, although your recommendation does make sense and could account for all of the out-of-tune mixtures I've suffered with over the years. I can't wait until I have my own little orgelette at home to perform experiments on... BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Memphis kimball From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:26:30 EDT   In a message dated 9/25/99 10:47:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whs1325@garnet.acns.fsu.edu writes:   << The 1928 Kimball formerly of the Memphis Auditorium has two consoles = for two separate organs. The five manual console controls both organs, the 74 =   North Hall organ with Echo and the 41 rank South Hall organ. The other = four manual console controls only the 41 rank South Hall organ. Both organs could be played together by using both consoles at one time. This organ = is in storage and for sale. It is likely that the two organs will be split = up. I have not heard these organs but understand from Scott that they made quite a sound. >>   Can someone please tell me WHAT HAPPENED to this organ and the = building????  
(back) Subject: Re: I'll trade a sandwich recipe for some tuning advice From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:06:15 -0700   At 06:21 PM 9/25/1999 -0400, you wrote: >I can't wait until I have my own little orgelette at home to perform experiments >on... BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA   Gee, Brewse...I din't KNOW Bawldwin Spin-it's gots MIXCHURES, too!   BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!    
(back) Subject: Re: Dual Console Organs (Cross posted) From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:11:00 EDT   The rebuilt organ at Our Lady, Help or Christians in W. Newton, MA, will have 2 consoles when it is finished (later this year), 3 manuals 70 stops = / couplers