PipeChat Digest #1555 - Saturday, August 12, 2000
 
Re: Hammond Spinets
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Learning to play a Hammond
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
Re: Hammond Spinets
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Beckerath Organ Specifications
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Beckerath Organ Specifications
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
RE: Beckerath Organ Specifications
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
how many organs are in your city???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: how many organs are in your city???
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: how many organs are in your city???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: how many organs are in your city???
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Musica Polska Completorium (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: how many organs are in your city???
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
E100
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com>
Re: The Simpsons' Best
  by "Jim Zimmerman" <jrzimmer@purdue.edu>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Spinets From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:35:34 +0800   Sorry, I should have said this was in 1971 and I am sure there were tone = wheels. It was not a spinet. It was quite a large organ with two full sized = manuals and a nearly full length pedal board. Bob E. Bob Scarborough wrote:    
(back) Subject: Learning to play a Hammond From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:47:48 EDT   WOW! We haven't had any casualities over talking about Hammonds..<G>   I have to say that I am fairly decent in the art of registration, and I =   believe most of it comes from growing up with a Hammond. (not that I = wanted to grow up with one...<G>) I learned the subtleness of adding just a dab (southern expression - = small amount) of 2/3's, 3/5's, 1/3 etc. (from those funny looking drawbars) = even to flute registrations. Our old building had a Hammond B-3 for 30 years....(I played on it = for 12 years)..................when we moved into the new building (1973), = an Allen 301-3 was installed, then 24 years later the new organ was installed = !!! I had not played a Hammond in 23 years; however, in the last 6 = months I have been called on to play 5 of them. (now this is a trip for me...<G>) = The first was for a wedding. A good friend of mine got sick after the rehearsal and called me Friday evening (about 10:00 pm.) to play the = wedding on Saturday afternoon. I was to have one hour with it before the wedding party had pictures done..........(Gee, thanks for ALL that time) I was in a panic! (Thanks again, Bud, for the speedy refresher = course you gave me ! I could not have made it as well as I did without your = help) Before I = sat down to practice, I checked the bench....there was the manual! As I read about the drawbars, most of the old ear and registration practices of = playing a Hammond came back. I then really realized it was the Hammond theory = that had taught me how to register on other organs! (hope I don't get too much hate mail for that one....<G>) That is why on some solo Flute registrations, I will use the Positiv Holtzgedackt (box open) with the Nazard 2 2/3 (or 1 3/5) coupled from the swell to the Positiv with the box closed. It gives a slight buzz to the sound of the Flute, not just the same old Flute sound. I can control the amount of the Nazard with the swell box. You can do the same thing with = the Swell Bourdon and Positiv Quint 1 1/3, using an accompaniment from the = Great. etc. What makes one of the differences in a good performance and an *excellent* one, is the creativity of the registration. ( Provided the organist can play well...<G>) We would all rather have the best, or the best type of organ we = want to play. But that is not reality. We are not all fortunate to play only = the type of organ we want to. I want to make the best music I can,make the = organ sound as good as it can, regardless of what instrument I am playing...That = is my job! I have heard some EXCELLENT organs played VERY badly........ = but I have also heard some real junkers make some BEAUTIFUL MUSIC! It's = all in the hands and heart of the artist ! (and their feet too...<G>) ( BTW...... Bud is right about using the Celeste tab..... makes all = the difference in the world! But Hammonds still BUZZZZZZ and POP a lot, don't they? <G>) I don't think I would be able to really hear sounds as well and = have the creative ability to register a piece, without having had to learn = about those drawbars. Because every room is different, you cannot always rely on =   the given registrations on the music, or the registrations you usually = use. You may have to create your own sounds...... and there is nothing like experience to teach you....if you just listen. I am glad I play a good organ at this point in my life, but having = to learn the Hammond system of registration, (there was nothing else to = practice on in this town) has made me, I think, a better organist. Does anyone else, who learned on a Hammond, feel this way about how =   you perceive registration practices? I still draw the basic = foundations and then add the harmonics I want. Guess you can't teach an ole dog = too many new tricks....<G> And yes, I'D STILL RATHER PLAY A PIPE...<G>   Van Vanpool  
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Spinets From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:51:12   At 08:35 PM 8/11/2000 +0800, you wrote: >Sorry, I should have said this was in 1971 and I am sure there were tone wheels. >It was not a spinet. It was quite a large organ with two full sized manuals and a >nearly full length pedal board.<snip>   It could have been either an E-100 (not all that great) or an H-100 = (really a great sounding organ in many ways). By this time, B-3/C-3 sales were pretty much in the toilet, and Hammond was trying new console designs to recapture lost market share.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Beckerath Organ Specifications From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:33:31 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_013C_01C00390.5B8E4BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   for anyone interested, here's the stoplist for the 5-manual Rudolph Von Beckerath organ, in St. Joseph's Orratory, Montreal, Quebec. It was =3D built in 1960.   POSITIF Montre 8 Bourdon 8 Prestant 4 Fl=3DFBte conique 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Doublette 2 Gemshorn 2 Tierce 1 3/5 Larigot 1 1/3 Plein-Jeu V rangs Saqueboute 16 Cromorne 8 Chalumeau 4   GRAND ORGUE Montre 16 Montre 8 Fl=3DFBte conique 4 Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 chemin=3DE9e 8 Prestant 4 Cor de nuit 4 Quinte 2 2/3 Doublette 2 Fourniture VI rangs Cymbale IV rangs Trombone 16 Trompette 8   R=3DC9CIT (expressive) Quintaton 16 Principal 8 Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 fuseau 8 Gemshorn 8 Gemshorn c=3DE9leste 8 Prestant 4 Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 bec 4 Nazard 2 2/3 Cor de nuit 2 Piccolo 1 Plein-Jeu V rangs Cymbale III rangs Cornet VI rangs Cor anglais 16 Hautbois 8 Musette 4   BOMBARDE Bourdon 16 Fl=3DFBte en montre 8 Prestant 4 Gros Nazard 5 1/3 Grosse Tierce 3 1/5 Nazard 2 2/3 Quarte de Nazard 2 Tierce 1 3/5 Grande Fourniture VI rangs Bombarde (en chamade) 16 Trompette (en chamade) 8 Clairon (en chamade) 4   =3DC9CHO (expressive) Bourdon 8 Quintaton 8 Principal en bois 4 Fl=3DFBte sylvestre 2 Larigot 1 1/3 Sesquialtera II rangs Plein-Jeu IV rangs Ranquette 16 R=3DE9gale 8   P=3DC9DALE Montre 32 Montre 16 Fl=3DFBte 16 Soubasse 16 Montre 8 Fl=3DFBte creuse 8 Prestant 4 Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 fuseau 4 Cor de nuit 2 Founiture IV rangs Plein-Jeu VI rangs Bombarde 32 Bombarde 16 Basson 16 Trompette 8 Clairon 4           ------=3D_NextPart_000_013C_01C00390.5B8E4BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.3105.105" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#8080ff><TT>for anyone interested, here's the stoplist = =3D for the=3D20 5-manual Rudolph Von<BR>Beckerath organ, in St. Joseph's Orratory, =3D Montreal,=3D20 Quebec. It was built in<BR>1960.<BR><BR>POSITIF<BR>Montre = 8<BR>Bourdon=3D20 8<BR>Prestant 4<BR>Fl=3DFBte conique 4<BR>Nazard 2 2/3<BR>Doublette =3D 2<BR>Gemshorn=3D20 2<BR>Tierce 1 3/5<BR>Larigot 1 1/3<BR>Plein-Jeu V rangs<BR>Saqueboute=3D20 16<BR>Cromorne 8<BR>Chalumeau 4<BR><BR>GRAND ORGUE<BR>Montre =3D 16<BR>Montre=3D20 8<BR>Fl=3DFBte conique 4<BR>Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 chemin=3DE9e 8<BR>Prestant = 4<BR>Cor =3D de nuit=3D20 4<BR>Quinte 2 2/3<BR>Doublette 2<BR>Fourniture VI rangs<BR>Cymbale IV=3D20 rangs<BR>Trombone 16<BR>Trompette 8<BR><BR>R=3DC9CIT =3D (expressive)<BR>Quintaton=3D20 16<BR>Principal 8<BR>Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 fuseau 8<BR>Gemshorn 8<BR>Gemshorn = =3D c=3DE9leste=3D20 8<BR>Prestant 4<BR>Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 bec 4<BR>Nazard 2 2/3<BR>Cor de nuit = =3D 2<BR>Piccolo=3D20 1<BR>Plein-Jeu V rangs<BR>Cymbale III rangs<BR>Cornet VI rangs<BR>Cor =3D anglais=3D20 16<BR>Hautbois 8<BR>Musette 4<BR><BR>BOMBARDE<BR>Bourdon 16<BR>Fl=3DFBte = =3D en montre=3D20 8<BR>Prestant 4<BR>Gros Nazard 5 1/3<BR>Grosse Tierce 3 1/5<BR>Nazard = 2=3D20 2/3<BR>Quarte de Nazard 2<BR>Tierce 1 3/5<BR>Grande Fourniture VI=3D20 rangs<BR>Bombarde (en chamade) 16<BR>Trompette (en chamade) 8<BR>Clairon = =3D (en=3D20 chamade) 4<BR><BR>=3DC9CHO (expressive)<BR>Bourdon 8<BR>Quintaton =3D 8<BR>Principal en=3D20 bois 4<BR>Fl=3DFBte sylvestre 2<BR>Larigot 1 1/3<BR>Sesquialtera II=3D20 rangs<BR>Plein-Jeu IV rangs<BR>Ranquette 16<BR>R=3DE9gale =3D 8<BR><BR>P=3DC9DALE<BR>Montre=3D20 32<BR>Montre 16<BR>Fl=3DFBte 16<BR>Soubasse 16<BR>Montre 8<BR>Fl=3DFBte = =3D creuse=3D20 8<BR>Prestant 4<BR>Fl=3DFBte =3DE0 fuseau 4<BR>Cor de nuit 2<BR>Founiture = IV =3D   rangs<BR>Plein-Jeu VI rangs<BR>Bombarde 32<BR>Bombarde 16<BR>Basson=3D20 16<BR>Trompette 8<BR>Clairon 4<BR><BR><BR><BR></TT></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_013C_01C00390.5B8E4BC0--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:53:13 EDT   In a message dated 6/28/00 11:39:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << As they looked up, Homer was being dragged naked up the glass roof section of the window showing his cute little dimpled backside to everyone inside. >>   My God! I have been clearing old mail, and had missed that one of yours = until just now. Wonderful!   Malcolm (a fellow Simpson lover).  
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:55:03 EDT   Sorry to send to the whole list my compliments to Bruce on his posting = about a naked Homer on the roof of the Crystal Cathedral. As he says, it really should happen!! I hope that show gets repeated, and that I am around at = the right time.   Malcolm  
(back) Subject: Re: Beckerath Organ Specifications From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:00:24   At 12:33 PM 8/11/2000 -0400, you wrote: >for anyone interested, here's the stoplist for the 5-manual Rudolph Von >Beckerath organ, in St. Joseph's Orratory, Montreal, Quebec.<snip>   OK...LaMirande's around here somewhere, I KNOW it!<snicker>   dB  
(back) Subject: RE: Beckerath Organ Specifications From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:04:39 -0500   It's the return of the body snatchers....   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:00 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Beckerath Organ Specifications     At 12:33 PM 8/11/2000 -0400, you wrote: >for anyone interested, here's the stoplist for the 5-manual Rudolph Von >Beckerath organ, in St. Joseph's Orratory, Montreal, Quebec.<snip>   OK...LaMirande's around here somewhere, I KNOW it!<snicker>   dB   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:12:35   At 12:55 PM 8/11/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Sorry to send to the whole list my compliments to Bruce on his posting = about >a naked Homer on the roof of the Crystal Cathedral. As he says, it really =   >should happen!!   Hmmmmm...let's see...a nekkid Homer Simpson balloon figure...some rope...some pulleys. The Silica Basilica's what....two hours from here? Get a compressed air tank to blow Homer up on-site around the block while the "faithful" are filing in...yes! It's TOTALLY feasible!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: how many organs are in your city??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:36:41 -0400   in January 2000, the organ department of Montreal's McGill University took = a survey to see how many organs were on the island of Montreal. This survey included churches of both catholic and protestant denominations, = worshipping in all languages. This is what they found....   Casavant---73 Rudolph Von Beckerath---2 Fran=E7ois Caron---9 Guilbault Th=E9rien---11 O. Jacques De Montr=E9al---6 ************************** Baldwin---26 Allen---3 Rodgers---1 Hammond---22 Conn---2 Wurlitzer---1   I guess it's safe to say that the island of Montreal has alot of churches, as some of you already if you've been here. Montreal is known as "the = organ capital of the world". I don't know who dubbed us that, but it's a known fact. Montreal has been host to many world-famous organists/composers over the years, who've played concerts here. Just to name a few...   Diane Bish Virgil Fox Power Biggs Catherine Crozier Simon Preston Gillian Weir Carlo Curley Lynnwood Farnamm Louis Vierne Pietro Yon ...and many more.   Montreal has alot to offer, and I'm truely blessed to live here.  
(back) Subject: Re: how many organs are in your city??? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:52:43   At 01:36 PM 8/11/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Montreal has alot to offer, and I'm truely blessed to live here.<snip>   Humid, stifling summers...frozen, slushy winters....I'll pass!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:52:46 EDT   Dear Bob:   I think you would too! Go for it! It would be a real BLAST! Homer gets it = at the glass emporium.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: how many organs are in your city??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:03:35 -0400   But Bob.....we have so many beautiful Hammonds.....including 2...count 'em TWO G-100's. One in my home and the other in a church. Wanna come and = tickle my ivories??? *snicker*   Carlo  
(back) Subject: Re: how many organs are in your city??? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:16:49   At 02:03 PM 8/11/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Wanna come and tickle >my ivories??? *snicker*<snip>   Last time I was up there and tried valiantly to use my fractured fran=E7ais, I was derided and scoffed at. Since then, upon entering the city, the only thing I utter to the inhabitants is, "Le ribbit...le ribbit...." Gets rid of them every time. Works like a charm!   Seriously, I'd love to hear/play a fully functional G-100 sometime, just to refresh my mind about the improvement the "on pitch" harmonics and addition of the eleventh harmonic makes. Some of the individual stops on the G-100 were pretty darned good, as Hammond invited many organists of the period to Chicago, where they were seated at a special research organ which had a slough of drawbars controlling the fourteen harmonics. It was by this audition process that Hammond arrived at the harmonic combinations for the individual stops. However, upon combination of all stops, things just didn't work out all that well, if I remember. I'd like to get a G-100 and "channelize" each individual stop to a separate audio channel, just to document the difference. I have the manuals and schematics...but no G-100!   DeserTBoB   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Musica Polska Completorium (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:22:56 -0700   Does anybody remember an LP of this? It was a stile galant (I think) setting of Compline for choir and orchestra by a Polish composer, Gregor (?) W... (?). The flip side was a Mass I was interested in doing ... that was how I found it in the first place. We did it at Old St. Mary's, but I abandoned the scores when I left, thinking "I'll CERTAINLY never have an opportunity to do THAT again", and now I can't remember the composer OR where we got the scores.   DUH!     Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: how many organs are in your city??? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:28:34 -0400   Bob,   believe it or not, I have some inside information about the church that = has the G-100. They're renovating right now, and I know for a fact that = they're looking into upgrading their organ to either an Allen or a Rodgers, SO........you figure it out!!! They asked me if I was interested in it = about a month ago, but I already have one. Both mine and this other one work 100%!!! They took the speakers out of the original cabinets and put them = in plywood frames (with circles cut out), and positioned them around the church, to give the effect of surround-sound. They have 13 speakers in = all; 9 for the main organ and 4 for the antiphonal. Who knows...if things go right, there may be a G-100 for sale in the Montreal area within the next few months. The pastor, who is a dear friend of mine, told me he would = come to me first when they're ready to get rid of it, and since it's a very = rich parish, he assured me that they wouldn't ask for anything over 500$ (canadian) for it. I'll let you know when the time comes if you're interested.   Carlo  
(back) Subject: E100 From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:31:07 -0400 (EDT)   What are the specifications for the Hammond E100 organ? Ed    
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:36:10 EDT   I think I would much rather have the balloon inflate and rise behind the center of the organ during a sermon!   And....is this naked Father of the Simpson clan anatomically correct? If so - correct placement is a must!   All the Best, Erik ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: The Simpsons' Best From: "Jim Zimmerman" <jrzimmer@purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:06:49 -0500   At 02:36 PM 8/11/00 -0400, someone wrote: >I think I would much rather have the balloon inflate and rise behind the >center of the organ during a sermon! > >And....is this naked Father of the Simpson clan anatomically correct? >If so - correct placement is a must!   And... don't forget to swap the processional hymn to "Inna Gadda da Vida"!   ************* Jim Zimmerman <jrzimmer@purdue.edu> ***************