PipeChat Digest #1568 - Tuesday, August 22, 2000
 
Organs in Scandinavia
  by "Chris Johns" <Chris_Johns@gmx.de>
Re: how to start a Hammond organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: how to start a Hammond organ
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Funeral Home organs
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Funeral Home organs
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
KSTP Studio WurliTzer ( previously Id'd as KSTL studio  Wurlitzer)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: how to start a Hammond organ
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Funeral Home organs
  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Fw: how to start a Hammond organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
cruise ship organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
PC Organ Stoplist Advice (Long!)
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Wurlitzer in Glasgow Scotland
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: PC Organ Stoplist Advice (Long!)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Wurlitzer in Glasgow Scotland
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Organs in Scandinavia From: "Chris Johns" <Chris_Johns@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:50:30 +0200   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0005_01C00BC2.34CD3AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear All,   I'm back from holiday too, or rather, back from a choir tour (not =3D exactly the same thing). Organs were very variable: one two manual =3D pneumatic in Gothenburg decided to give me half a beat of pleno in the =3D introduction to Panis Angelicus. In every respect it was a disaster of =3D organ building. The great was to the left of the console, the swell to =3D the right, the only vaguely diapason-like sound on the Swell was a 4' =3D Fugara, which obliterated the rather quiet and bland 8' flues, and the =3D only reed was an 8' Corno on the Great, which, while not unpleasant as a = =3D solo stop, didn't even slightly blend in the pleno.   Norway was a completely different story though. I was fortunate enough =3D to be able to play two new Rieger instruments in Molde and Bergen =3D cathedrals, the former built in 1999, the latter in 1997. I didn't note = =3D the specification of the Molde instrument, but did get a brochure about = =3D the one in Bergen (which was slightly larger, but didn't have an =3D enclosed Positive). So, feast your eyes on this!!   Hauptwerk (I) Principal 16' (C-B from Pedal) Bourdon 16' Principal 8' Flute Harmonique 8' Gamba 8' Hohlfl=3DF6te 8' Octav 4' Spitzfl=3DF6te 4' Quint 2 2/3' Superoctav 2' Mixtur Major V 2' Mixtur Minor IV 1 1/3' Cornet V 8' from f Trompete 16' Trompete 8'   Positiv (II) Principal 8' Gedeckt 8' Salicional 8' Quintade 8' Principal 4' Rohrfl=3DF6te 4' Nasat 2 2/3' Gemshorn 2' Terz 1 3/5' Larigot 1 1/3' Sifflet 1' Scharff IV 1' Clarinette 8' Cromorne 8' Tremulant   Schwellwerk (III, enclosed) Bourdon 16' Principal 8' Doppelfl=3DF6te 8' Bourdon 8' Gambe 8' Voix celeste 8' Octave 4' Flute 4' Viola 4' Nazard harm. 2 2/3' Flageolet 2' Tierce harm. 1 3/5' Plein-jeu V-VI 2' Basson 8' Trompette harm. 8' Haut-bois 8' Clarion 4' Voix humaine 8' Tremulant   Pedal (this is the best bit) Untersatz 32' Principal 16' Subbass 16' Violon 16' Principal 8' Gemshorn 8' Choralbass 4' Flachfl=3DF6te 2' Rauschpfeife IV 2 2/3' Kontrafagott 32' Bombarde 16' Fagott 16' Posaune 8' Zinke 4' Usual couplers, 8x32 general pistons   If any of you are ever in either of these cities, I strongly recommend =3D trying to get to play these instruments, or at least go to one of the =3D frequent concerts there.   Best wishes   Chris Frankenstrasse 5, D-49082 Osnabrueck Tel/Fax +49 (0)541 528 2568 EMail: Chris_Johns@gmx.de=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0005_01C00BC2.34CD3AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear = All,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm back from = holiday =3D too, or rather,=3D20 back from a choir tour (not exactly the same thing). Organs were very =3D variable:=3D20 one two manual pneumatic in Gothenburg decided to give me half a beat of = =3D pleno=3D20 in the introduction to Panis Angelicus. In every respect it was a =3D disaster of=3D20 organ building. The great was to the left of the console, the swell to =3D the=3D20 right, the only vaguely diapason-like sound on the Swell was a 4' =3D Fugara, which=3D20 obliterated the rather quiet and bland 8' flues, and the only reed was =3D an 8'=3D20 Corno on the Great, which, while not unpleasant as a solo stop, didn't =3D even=3D20 slightly blend in the pleno.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Norway was a completely different = story =3D though. I=3D20 was fortunate enough to be able to play two new Rieger instruments in =3D Molde and=3D20 Bergen cathedrals, the former built in 1999, the latter in 1997. I =3D didn't note=3D20 the specification of the Molde instrument, but did get a brochure about = =3D the one=3D20 in Bergen (which was slightly larger, but didn't have an enclosed =3D Positive). So,=3D20 feast your eyes on this!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hauptwerk (I)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 16' (C-B = =3D from=3D20 Pedal)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bourdon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Flute Harmonique&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>Gamba&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hohlfl&ouml;te&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Octav&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Spitzfl&ouml;te&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Quint 2 2/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Superoctav&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mixtur Major V 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Mixtur Minor&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D IV&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 1 1/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cornet V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 8' from = =3D f</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Trompete&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Trompete&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Positiv (II)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gedeckt&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Salicional&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Quintade&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rohrfl&ouml;te&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Nasat&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 =3D 2/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gemshorn&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Terz&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =3D 3/5'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Larigot&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =3D 1/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sifflet&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 1'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Scharff&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D IV&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 1'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Clarinette&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cromorne&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tremulant</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Schwellwerk (III, =3D enclosed)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bourdon 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Doppelfl&ouml;te&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bourdon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gambe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Voix celeste 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Octave&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Flute&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Viola&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Nazard harm.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2 =3D 2/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Flageolet&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tierce harm.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 =3D 3/5'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Plein-jeu V-VI&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Basson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Trompette harm.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Haut-bois&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Clarion&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Voix humaine&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tremulant</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pedal (this is the best =3D bit)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Untersatz&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 32'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Subbass&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Violon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gemshorn 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Choralbass&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Flachfl&ouml;te&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 2'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rauschpfeife IV&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 2=3D20 2/3'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Kontrafagott&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 32'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bombarde&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Fagott&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D 16'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Posaune = 8'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>Zinke&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4'</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Usual couplers, = 8x32 =3D general=3D20 pistons</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>If any of you are ever in either of = =3D these cities, I=3D20 strongly recommend trying to get to play these instruments, or at least = =3D go to=3D20 one of the frequent concerts there.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best =3D wishes</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Chris</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT =3D color=3D3D#000000 face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>Frankenstrasse 5, D-49082 Osnabrueck<BR>Tel/Fax +49 (0)541 = 528=3D20 2568<BR>EMail: <A =3D href=3D3D"mailto:Chris_Johns@gmx.de">Chris_Johns@gmx.de</A>=3D20 </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0005_01C00BC2.34CD3AC0--    
(back) Subject: Re: how to start a Hammond organ From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:41:01   At 01:08 PM 8/21/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Somebody used to make train whistle noises by flicking the "Start" switch on and >off after the organ was already running ... don't remember who ...<snip>   Eddie Layton was known for that trick, as were others.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: how to start a Hammond organ From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:43:06   At 04:16 PM 8/21/2000 -0400, you wrote: >The console is down dear the front with a tone cabinet next to it. Up in = the >balcony there's another cabinet and a leslie. If I turn the RUN on = without >starting it, the light over the pedals goes on, and I hear a click coming >from the balcony. Is there power going to the cabinets without the organ >actually being ON?<snip>   Of course. "Tone cabinet" power comes on with the "Run" switch, not the "Start" switch. The click means there's a power relay up in the balcony that's switching on when 110VAC control voltage from the console appears.   DeserTBoB > >Carlo > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Home organs From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:16:07 -0400   > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: Funeral Home organs > > I've had to lead the group in singing,   Carlo:   I'd think that might be the hard part. Do mortuaries have hymnals, then? Or do they just print out the texts of the songs?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Home organs From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:19:07 -0400   Alan,   most of the funeral homes here in Montreal have hymnals. If there's a song that the family wants that's not in the book, copies are made and sheets = are passed out. That's the way it is here.   Carlo  
(back) Subject: KSTP Studio WurliTzer ( previously Id'd as KSTL studio Wurlitzer) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:43:44 -0500   BTW it was KSTP and the organ was OPUS 1404 260spec originally in the Capitol (Paramount) Theatre in St. Paul, Mn. (information from the WurliTzer Opus list on-line           At 08:40 AM 08/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I'm glad it was saved. What size is the instrument (origionally)? > >Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: how to start a Hammond organ From: "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:27:36 -0700   At 01:08 7:24 PM 8/21/00 , you wrote: >OK, some of the older ones take longer because of advanced age or needing = oil >... that's probably why I remember "10" and "5", rather than "8" and "4". =   >I just >listen until the tonewheels are up to speed. But I'm SURE there are folks = out >there who have no IDEA what we're talking about (grin / sigh).   And, as we say over on Hamtech .. don't -ever- show a thrift-store or estate-salesperson how to start one if you want to get it cheap! ;-)   rY    
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Home organs From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:31:02 -0400     Dear Jason,   Nice to hear from you ! I would like to come up to Watertown and meet you , but I probably won't be able to get away until after Labor day.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:36:47 EDT "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> writes: > What would be the ideal stoplist and specs for a Funeral Home - NOT a > > chapel. > > Plenty of strings, colorful flutes, solo flutes, Vox Humanas, > ensemble > reeds, Solo reeds, soft 16' Flutes? Not a lot of Diapasons, right? > Plus > it's got to fit into either the basment or the Funeral home or the > attic or > a small room in the back of the Home. > > Just a challenge for those of us who are up to it. Let's compair > stoplists > after we each design one or two or three or four. > > Jason Comet > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Fw: how to start a Hammond organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:21:07 -0500   Train whistle? Lenny Dee?   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: Re: how to start a Hammond organ     > OK, some of the older ones take longer because of advanced age or = needing oil > ... that's probably why I remember "10" and "5", rather than "8" and = "4". I just > listen until the tonewheels are up to speed. But I'm SURE there are = folks out > there who have no IDEA what we're talking about (grin / sigh). > > Somebody used to make train whistle noises by flicking the "Start" = switch on and > off after the organ was already running ... don't remember who ... > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > > > ".......First make sure that the RUN switch is in the "off" position = and > > then push the START switch and hold it while you count to 8 slowly. Still > > holding the START switch, push the RUN switch into "RUN" position. = Hold both > > switches while you count to 4 slowly, then release the START switch, > > leaving the RUN switch in the "RUN" position. In about 30 seconds the organ > > will be ready to play. To shut off the organ, simply pull the RUN = switch to > > its "off" position....." > > > > That is a direct quote from my Hammond Organ Owner's Playing Guide. > > > > Carlo > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: cruise ship organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:12:08 -0500   Well, I just opened my latest copy of Het Pierement (Dutch street organ magazine from Kring van Draaiorgelvrienden) when lo-and-behold..........here's a pix of the organ on the cruise ship MS Zaandam.   A drawing shows the circular free-standing instrument on the low deck- reaching up about three decks with circular balconies around it.   Fotos reveal a 2m, wall-to-wall doorknob -in-the-case- keydesk with flat pedalboard -and a chair to sit on (fancy too, I might add). The circular towers (which encircle the instrument) look to hold 8 and 16 Diapasons.   The clincher? IT'S IN DUTCH+ACE- -and my command of the Dutch language is....well....notta so goood+ACE-   I will however, scan the pages and post them for any and all who may be interested.   Rick      
(back) Subject: PC Organ Stoplist Advice (Long!) From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 02:51:33 EDT   I know how much you folks like to design organs for people, so I would = like your advice on what changes I should make to my PC organ. This will = involve getting new engraved drawknob heads from Klann, and not just clicking a = mouse a few times, so I would like to make the right decisions.   The organ sounds very decent, considering that it uses Soundfonts and = cheap PC soundcards. A Principal sounds like a Principal, and an Oboe sounds = like an Oboe. This is a very different state of affairs, compared to the Conn = 903 analog monster that I had hooked up to the console before. Then, a = Principal was a sawtooth wave with no highs, and an Oboe was a sawtooth wave with no =   lows. Complete rubbish, in my opinion.   Anyway, this is the stoplist of the Klann Console that controls the organ. = I can't change the couplers, although they are not exactly what one would = want, because they are wired in the console, and not under software control.   Pedal: Untersatz 32', Bombarde 16', Posaune 16', Lieblich gedackt 16' , Bourdon 16', Open Diapason 16' Tromba 8', Bourdon 8', Principal 8', Nachthorn 4', Octave 4', Mixture. Sw.-Ped 8',4', Gt. -Ped 8', Ch.-Ped 8'. Swell: Bourdon 16', Trompette 8' , Oboe 8', Regal 8', Diapason 8', Hohl Flute 8', Flute Celeste 8', Voix Celeste 8', Salicional 8', Trompette = 4', Rohr Flute 4', Salicet 4', Flautino 2', Sesquialtera II. Uni Off, Sw.4', = Sw. 16', Ch-Sw 8'.   Great: Tuba 8', Open Diapason 8', Hohl Flute 8', Doppel Flute 8', English Diapason 8', Clarion 4', Octave 4', Harmonic Flute 4', Super Octave 2', Larigot 1-1/3', Mixture IV, Chimes. Uni Off, Gt 4', Sw.- Gt. 16', 8', 4', Ch.-Gt. 16', 8', 4', Echo-Gt. 16', 8', 4'.   Choir; Krummhorn 8', Melodia 8', Viola Da Gamba 8', Voix Celeste 8', = Flauto Dolce 4', Geigen Principal 4', Nazard 2-2/3', Koppel Flute 2', Terz = 1-3/5', Sifflote 1', Harp 8'. Echo-Ch. 16', 8'.   Echo (floating, couples to Great and Choir at 16, 8, and 4) Vox Humana 8', =   Echo Flute 8', Muted Violin 8', Fern Flute 4', Gemshorn 4' .   I've already decided to dump the Tremulant on the Great and Echo. So there =   are a couple of places where new stops could be added.   Between the Jeux and Pfeifenorgel Soundfonts, I think I could come up with =   any stop one might ask for. Some of the samples are not great, usually suffering from unrealistic attack characteristics. I would appreciate any comments anyone might like to make, except "throw = it away and buy a Flentrop!"   Thanks in advance, Mick Berg.  
(back) Subject: Re: Wurlitzer in Glasgow Scotland From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:13:08 +0800   There were three WurlitZers in Perth Western Australia. One a 2m with = initially about 11 ranks was in the Metro Theatre, a 3/20 in the Ambassadors Theatre = and a small one of one manual with two pianos in the Princess Theatre = Fremantle. The Metro Wurli has been restored and enlarged and is now in the Karrinyup = Town Hall (suburb of Perth), where it is stilll played at times. The little one = from the Princess has ranks in a couple of church organs, and the 3/20 from the Ambassadors Theatre was sent to Melbourne in the early post war years = where it was incorporated in the 4 m. job in the Regent Theatre. I think that one = is still in the Theatre but augmented by ranks and a console from the USA,. = Not sure of the details. The only other theatre organ in this state is a = Compton 3/10 in the Leckie Pavilion in Nedlands. It is owned by the Theatre Organ Society of Australia (WA Division) as far as I know, and is in frequent = use. To answer the query of the original poster there were many Wiurlitzers = exported to Australia and a good number of them are still in use in halls or = churches. However I would have no idea how many. Bob Elms.        
(back) Subject: Re: PC Organ Stoplist Advice (Long!) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:22:45   At 02:51 AM 8/22/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Pedal: Untersatz 32', Bombarde 16', Posaune 16', Lieblich gedackt 16' ,=20 >Bourdon 16', Open Diapason 16' >Tromba 8', Bourdon 8', Principal 8', Nachthorn 4', Octave 4', Mixture.=20 >Sw.-Ped 8',4', Gt. -Ped 8', Ch.-Ped 8'.<snip>   Well, to me, anyway, you're redundant in stopped flute tone at 16'. Why not get a hefty Contraviol at 16' to give a nice, sawing bottom to those lush string mashes of tone? I realize the use of both a Lieblich and a Bourdon (different dynamic levels), but I'd tend to find the Lieblich relatively useless...of course, so is the string! Quint-based mixture of III or IV will cap the principal ensemble nicely, giving a good complete pedal division for the plena. =20 >Swell: Bourdon 16', Trompette 8' , Oboe 8', Regal 8', Diapason 8', Hohl= =20 >Flute 8', Flute Celeste 8', Voix Celeste 8', Salicional 8', Trompette 4',= =20 >Rohr Flute 4', Salicet 4', Flautino 2', Sesquialtera II. Uni Off, Sw.4', Sw.=20 >16', Ch-Sw 8'.   Weak mixture...a Plein Jeu III, perhaps? Cymbal III? Where are the mutations for color and synthesized solos? Where's your 16' reed? Put the Regal elsewhere....on the Great, if you go Baroque-y there. Ix-nay on the ourdon-bay at 16' on the swell; it's got a little too much weight of fundamental. THERE'S where you could put your Lieblich. Other sub-octave possibilities are an =C6-S style Quintaton, or possibly a moderate string, which I'd probably prefer, since it has an overtone structure that can "mesh" with the rest of the ensemble at unison and above. Salicet at 4' is too weak to function as foundation tone; you should have a foundational 4' rank, something all too often omitted, even on large rgans. As Bud would point out, this division properly has the "four fonds" with which to work, but barely enough upper work to be useful in schools other than the= Romantic.   >Great: Tuba 8', Open Diapason 8', Hohl Flute 8', Doppel Flute 8', English= =20 >Diapason 8', Clarion 4', Octave 4', Harmonic Flute 4', Super Octave 2',=20 >Larigot 1-1/3', Mixture IV, Chimes. Uni Off, Gt 4', Sw.- Gt. 16', 8', 4',= =20 >Ch.-Gt. 16', 8', 4', Echo-Gt. 16', 8', 4'.<snip>   Larigot?? On the Great? Tone it down and put it on the Choir. Where's the Nazard and 2' flute? Fill up the principal chorus at ALL pitches on the Great before going for the Larigot. Superoctave reed on the Great is usually only seen on bigger organs, but who's complaining? Some duplication with the H=F6hl and Doppel flutes, really...a good Doppel can do the work of both, although a bit heavy. Now, here's a question of how you want the Great flute chorus modeled...quasi Romantic, or quasi Baroque: If more Baroque, nix the Doppel, go with the Hohl and dump the Harm Flute for a Nason or something similar (others will recognize THAT pattern!). Fourniture IV is a good Great chorus mixture; make it prominent but not screeching, and BREAK IT BACK properly.   >Choir; Krummhorn 8', Melodia 8', Viola Da Gamba 8', Voix Celeste 8',= Flauto=20 >Dolce 4', Geigen Principal 4', Nazard 2-2/3', Koppel Flute 2', Terz 1-3/5',= =20 >Sifflote 1', Harp 8'. Echo-Ch. 16', 8'.<snip>   Only a Melodia for unison tone on the Choir?? Try a Salicional and the Melodia. Viola da Gamba might be too slender for some jobs here; why not swap it with the Swell Salicional? Consider an Erz=E4hler and its c=E9l=E8s= te here, which would provide a contrasting undulating tone, and is more useful than a flute c=E9l=E8ste. Add the Larigot AND a Tierce. The II mixture originally on the Swell would be good here. Geigen's good; "foundation of all work". Dump the Dolce for a good 4' flute, possibly with little nicking to add a nice percussive trick. You already have a 4' Geigen; why add yet another 4' foundation tone?   >Echo (floating, couples to Great and Choir at 16, 8, and 4) Vox Humana 8',= =20 >Echo Flute 8', Muted Violin 8', Fern Flute 4', Gemshorn 4' .   Fern Flute?? Where'd THAT come from :::digging for Audsley:::?? A nice Orchestral Oboe would add more reed variety, or possibly a solo-voiced= Corny.   >I've already decided to dump the Tremulant on the Great and Echo.<snip>   Good on Great, bad on Echo. Vox needs a GOOD trem, and probably deeper than the rest in that box. Unison flute on Echo needs to be in proportion to Vox, important solo combination. Vox without trem is essentially a Regal, which is out of character on a division like this.   This was right off the top of my head, and is not thought out by any means, but...you asked!   DeserTBoB      
(back) Subject: Re: Wurlitzer in Glasgow Scotland From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:27:21   At 03:13 PM 8/22/2000 +0800, you wrote: >To answer the query of the original poster there were many Wiurlitzers exported >to Australia and a good number of them are still in use in halls<snip>   ....and we Pipechatters on IRC usually hear them every Friday (US date) whilst tapping into "Ah Tee Ah" public radio's RealAudio 'Net broadcast from Perth of "Theatre Organ Time"! Bob should join us, as should all PipeChatters!   "NUKE KATHLEEN...NUKE KATHLEEN..."   DeserTBoB