PipeChat Digest #1577 - Saturday, August 26, 2000 Re: computer programs/MIDI by "paul" <email@example.com> Re: Burnt beans of Baaahstun by "Rebekah Ingram" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: computer programs/MIDI by "Ray Thursby" <email@example.com> Shrubbery by <LLWheels@aol.com> Fw: computer programs/MIDI by "VEAGUE" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: PipeChat Digest #1575 - 08/26/00 by <LLWheels@aol.com> RE: computer programs/MIDI by "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> RE: computer programs/MIDI by "Randy Terry" <firstname.lastname@example.org> repertoire by <email@example.com> Speaking of Wicks.... by <Cremona502@cs.com> Re: Burnt beans of Baaahstun by <Cremona502@cs.com> Re: OHS Boston, Monday 8/21 by <Cremona502@cs.com> Re: Speaking of Wicks.... by "Brent Johnson" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Moeller opus list et al by "Paul Stapel" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI From: "paul" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:44:15 -0700 I have a Wurlitzer style d 2-6 and it wants to grow ,I need ideas on what the next 4/5 ranks should be Paul Kruger ----- Original Message ----- From: "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> To: "PipeChat" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:35 PM Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI > My Wurli-pipe has CakeWalk MIDI with printable features. It even plays back > the boo-boos I do! Gotta fix that. > > Rick > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com > >
(back) Subject: Re: Burnt beans of Baaahstun From: "Rebekah Ingram" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:29:03 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scarborough <email@example.com> To: PipeChat <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 11:32 PM Subject: Burnt beans of Baaahstun > Well, now! Everyone's making their way homeward, and I decided, in keeping > with my contrarian nature, to poll for votes for the WORST organs heard > during OHS! Hey now, that's my home town. Talked to Barbara Owen yesterday and she = said the whole convention was a blast. Also said that Tom Murray had you all entranced--nobody moved, and you know how fidgity you guys are! Did you guys get a chance to see my Lane, or maybe the Alley up in Newburyport? -Rebekah
(back) Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI From: "Ray Thursby" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:04:40 -0700 Paul, Your Style D wants to grow very carefully...there's nothing that can mess = up a well-balanced original organ more than ill-considered additions. The = best model for expansion is the ranks Wurlitzer installed to create their = larger two-manual instruments. In my view, the best two-manual Wurlitzer was the Style 216 (unfortunately rare when new, and now not to be found in = original form), so following that scheme is a good idea. So if you have the original ranks, you have: Trumpet 8' Open Diapason 16' Tibia Clausa 8' Salicional 8' Concert Flute 16' Vox Humana 8' To these I would add (in order): Voix (Salicional) Celeste 8' (usually a TC set, but try to get the bottom 12) Clarinet 8' Orchestral Oboe or Krumet 8' Brass Trumpet or Post Horn (the latter Wurlitzer or EXACT copy, on 10" = wind) Saxophone or Oboe Horn 8' Horn Diapason 8' This will result in a very complete and versatile 12 sets. If, that is, = they are reasonably well unified and carefully regulated. For a more useable instrument, be sure to keep the existing Flute unification on the Solo = while adding Tibia unification (should be 16', 8' 4', 2 2/3' and 2'). The Tibia mutations should be used sparingly; most combinations (especially in a = small studio environment) sound better with Flute mutations. You will also want to add 16' extensions, e.g..: Trumpet, Salicional and Tibia (in that order). And try to find a Marimba as well. The key point is regulation! The small Post Horn does not overpower the = rest of the organ; neither does a good Brass Trumpet. Add only sets that match the originals in scale and wind pressure -- no 15' Tibia or Post Horn!
(back) Subject: Shrubbery From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:23:31 EDT In a message dated 8/26/2000 1:15:55 AM Central Daylight Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: << I'm not for the shrub either, but please don't put us all in the same pot! Roy >> I did not accuse you or the shrub of pot or any other drug. Those allegations have not been proven yet. My own dear brother lives in texas = and he doesn't use pot either. I think most texans are loopy enough without = it. As far as my tag-line goes - it really means - no more texans in the = white house - but if I add that it no longer satarizes his fathers mantra which = was <read my lips -- no new taxes> Sorry to paint you all with the big brush, but, after all, things are = bigger in texas, because texas is the biggest! (oops! except Alaska he-he-he!) Larry L. Wheelock Read my lips -- NO NEW TEXANS!
(back) Subject: Fw: computer programs/MIDI From: "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:24:35 -0500 If I had-it to do again, I would design an instrument to add more string, diapason and flute celestes (I *hate* celestes:-)), and a nice trombone unified all divisions and pitches (my posthorn is really too much even on the back chamber wall) I would also opt for more 16-foot pedal (as I like = a good solid bass). In the toy box I would add clacking bamboo sticks -even something GW = didn't have (don't laugh- ever hear rhythmic Hawaiian luau-music with the bamboo-dance?), and tuned reitterating steel drums. Till then, I'm happy with the beast I have which is a Style-E divided = (Odeon Theatre, Savannah, Ga 1927) with added posthorn, flute celeste and upright piano. BTW- the '29 Ford klaxon really klaxons up in the chamber (7 amps that sucker draws!) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: paul <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: PipeChat <email@example.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:44 AM Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI > I have a Wurlitzer style d 2-6 and it wants to grow ,I need ideas on = what > the next 4/5 ranks should be > Paul Kruger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "VEAGUE" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > To: "PipeChat" <email@example.com> > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:35 PM > Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI > > > > My Wurli-pipe has CakeWalk MIDI with printable features. It even plays > back > > the boo-boos I do! Gotta fix that. > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > > Administration: mailto:email@example.com > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com >
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1575 - 08/26/00 From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:37:37 EDT In a message dated 8/26/2000 1:15:55 AM Central Daylight Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: << > Now, now! Be nice. You all need to send the nice folks at Wicks a = box of > candy. >> Nor have I ever intended to smear the nice Wicks folks. I even own two of = their instruments; a DE and a tracker (gasp!!) I did get the info about = the AS stuff as a pretty smarmy brag from a Wicks rep 20-or-so years ago and = he was, I am sure, not representative of the majority of Wicks reps. I don't even know if he is still around, but for the sake of the Wicks folks, I = hope not. As far as sending candy - I will consider it if someone there will respond = to my email to Wicks of 2 weeks ago concerning parts for one of my organs. :) I wonder what kind of candy they would want? Perhaps candy-corn (they ARE = in Illinois). Do let me know. Larry L. Wheelock Read my lips -- NO NEW TEXANS!
(back) Subject: RE: computer programs/MIDI From: "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 08:48:09 -0700 -----Original Message----- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf Of Noel Stoutenburg Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:25 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: computer programs/MIDI Randy, when I wrote: > >Finale will do this, though I don't know how to do it. It is not quite as > >simple as you seem to be looking for, however. I did not mean to impugn your computer literacy. I must say, too, that it was not completely clear what your intentions = were for the result of recording the information. If your intention is to prepare = a printed score, I would go with Finale or Sibelius (not meaning to slight Noteworthy, but there are just some things it can't do--e.g., it will do triplets, but (at least last time I upgraded), it will not do quintuplets. If your intention is to record for playback, I would go with a sequencing program, instead. "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Administration: mailto:email@example.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: RE: computer programs/MIDI From: "Randy Terry" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:02:00 -0700 This is exactly my intention! I guess what I mean is that it seems highly unlikely that a PC could get an improvised piece of music down precisely - especially when improvisations, however creative and artistic they may be, are fairly IMPRECISE! However, I was impressed with the Sibelius test software I got, and if I could get a start on paper to work with, then corrections and improvements could be made. My feeling is that I improvise too much. In fact, if I am not playing baroque music or recital type stuff, and I want a contemporary chorale prelude, I do it myself (usually). I've found Charles Callahan's and some others such as Dale Wood to be attractive and playable with VERY little = prep time. But most of what I find in music stores that is easy usually seems banal to me. My long term goal would be to either make available through = a web page or publish a selection of easily preparable hymn tune preludes or organ meditations so that others could enjoy them, too. Since we all have individual styles, this would be great. Although I prefer pipes - some of the benefits of the digital age, such as having an instrument at home and being able to bring in the computer are going to make things interesting. And as soon as my instrument gets here I will now be able to practice for two hours at night, rather than watching TV (and since I am in an = apartment, I can use headphones!) Yeah!! Randy :-) -----Original Message----- from Noel Stoutenburg Randy, when I wrote: I must say, too, that it was not completely clear what your intentions = were for the result of recording the information. If your intention is to prepare = a printed score, I would go with Finale or Sibelius <snip>
(back) Subject: repertoire From: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:19:01 -0700 Randy Terry wrote: > (snip) > > My feeling is that I improvise too much. In fact, if I am not playing > baroque music or recital type stuff, and I want a contemporary chorale > prelude, I do it myself (usually). I've found Charles Callahan's and = some > others such as Dale Wood to be attractive and playable with VERY little = prep > time. But most of what I find in music stores that is easy usually = seems > banal to me. My long term goal would be to either make available = through a > web page or publish a selection of easily preparable hymn tune preludes = or > organ meditations so that others could enjoy them, too. Since we all = have > individual styles, this would be great. Hi, Randy! There's a TON of unknown 19th century stuff that's of service length ... = Reger's Chorale Preludes, Op. 100 (?), for instance. Sorry, I don't have the opus = number at home ... it may be 67 ... they're mostly 2-3 pages, not easy, not = fiendishly difficult. As usual, his metronome markings are ridiculous (grin). Also a = lot of the smaller free pieces ... Kalmus has reprinted them. A lot of 19th century French stuff ISN'T banal IF you get the original = French editions with the original registrations and try and reproduce them as = closely as possible ... they're dependent on the sound of the organ as much as = anything. If you can find a library with a set of Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique, = they're anything BUT banal ... unfortunately the individual volumes are up to = about $45 apiece. The Offertories, Elevations and Communions are the most useful. By all means go for getting your own stuff down on paper ... I'm = attempting the same thing. But there is interesting, playable stuff out there ... you = just have to hunt for it. Cheers, Bud
(back) Subject: Speaking of Wicks.... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:41:42 EDT In a message dated 8/25/00 11:10:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = email@example.com writes: << As the only representative of Wicks on this list, I think all candy = should be sent directly to me! >> At the OHS convention in Boston we heard a 1938 Wicks which was voiced by Henry Vincent Willis (of ENGLAND!!!). The stoplist: GREAT: 16 Gemshorn (ext); 8 First, Second Open Diapasons, Viola, Gemshorn & = Celeste, Concert Flute; 4 Octave, Suabe Flute; Twelfth; Fifteenth; and 8 Trumpet. CHOIR: 8 Open Diapason, Gedeckt, Dulciana, Unda Maris tc; 4 Flute d amour; 8 Clarinet, French Horn; Tremolo, French Horn Tremolo SWELL; 16 Lieblich Bourdon (ext); 8 Open Diapason, Harmonic Flute, Salicional, = Voix Celeste tc, Stopped Flute, Aeoline; 4 Flute traverso; Nazard; 2 Flautino; Tierce; Mixture III; 16 Contra Fagotto; 8 Cornopean, Oboe (ext), Clarion, = Vox Humana. Tremolo, Reed Tremolo. PEDAL: 16 Open Diapason, Bourdon, Gemshorn (gr), Lieblichgedeckt (sw); 8 Octave (ext), Cello (gr viola), Gedeckt (ext), Flauto Dolce (sw); 16 Trombone (ext gr), Contra Fagotto (sw). This organ sounded like it had been pinched from across the pond! The = sound was veddy, veddy British. This just goes to show that a fine voicer/finisher who properly scales and finishes the pipework can do = wonders. I've heard Wicks organs scaled and finished by Charles Moseley that = would severely test the "who dunnit" capabilities of many organists. I = remember being quite pleased with the tracker that I played in the Wicks factory. T'werent a Hook 'n Hastings, but is was veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice! Cybersnacks with nougat 'n nuts to Brent! Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502
(back) Subject: Re: Burnt beans of Baaahstun From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:41:45 EDT In a message dated 8/26/00 2:37:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 firstname.lastname@example.org writes: Well, now! Everyone's making their way homeward, and I decided, in keeping with my contrarian nature, to poll for votes for the WORST organs heard during OHS! So far, the bidding seems to be tied between a "Krazee Frazee" and the coarsely-voiced and mistuned "Frisky Air Calliope=AE" foisted upon Wellesley. Some wonder why this wheezebox was even played, considering there's a fine =C6olian-Skinner up front...but....played it was, with some walking out on the performance, due to the discord set up by ridiculous "retro-fad" mean-tone temperament.> =20 Well, I must admit that I was not particularly impressed with the Frazee=20 instrument, although by "American Classic" standards it would be considered=20 pretty good. It had some nice reeds and lots of goo, and would be pleasant=20 to hear on a regularly Sunday basis. Although for regular Sunday usage I=20 would prefer the A-S at Church of the Advent or the Hook at Immaculate=20 Conception, or ANY of the Hooks, for that matter. But again, I would be=20 perfectly satisfied to hear the mean-tone Fisk at Wellesley weekly, as=20 wellesley! It made some really beautiful music. The Buxtehude G-minor jus= t=20 came to life. My only complaint with the organ was that it was a bit loud;= =20 OK, it was TOO loud. But then, so was the big Hutchings at the Mission=20 Church which we heard under the heavy hands of Julian Wachner, who kept his=20 foot on the "gas" pretty much the entire time, except for his improvisation=20 on Nicaea during which he applied both feet! =20 I suppose if I MUST select two organs for the "worst" category, the award=20 will go to AEolian-Skinner for the Methuen Music Hall organ and the First=20 Church of Christ, Scientist machine. I suppose I've been spoilt by Skinne= r=20 in my day, and was expecting something more on the line of Church of the=20 Advent or MoTab pre-most-recent-rebuild. The Methuen organ just did not=20 have the warmth I'd hoped for, and the choruses did not hang together. The=20 flutes were basically GDH dull. The full chorus with reeds was almost=20 satisfying. Bruce Stevens did a masterful job on this instrument, and=20 although it is a fine organ, it did not float to the top for me. I must confess that I was not in a good mood to start with at the Mother=20 Church. When we arrived the first balcony was full and we were told that w= e=20 could not use the other balconies (I believe there were FOUR remaining!). A= s=20 the building filled, we were told that the second balcony could be used, but= =20 after getting settled we were ushered out by another smiling and too- sweet=20 docent. I finally found a seat on the wonderfully carpeted main floor and= =20 prepared to enjoy the concert. Not so! Screaming babies serenaded through=20 the first piece. Actually, they were more musical than the first piece, a=20 very boring fanfare which someone dedicated to her (I would have been REALLY= =20 angry!!). She seemed to be checking the voicing of various stops, but it=20 was, alas, the THEME which would be repeated ad nauseum throughout. The onl= y=20 thing worse was her dress, described by one member as looking like a "blood=20 clot"! Someone PLEASE invent a tux for women, since many just don't seem to= =20 grasp the concept of formal wear for a recital. I've seen some really=20 hideous costumes over the years, my favorite being the "plumber's tux" which= =20 had black pants, white blouse, and black short jacket... use your=20 imagination!!! The organ sounded hard and rough. The reeds were=20 certainly not up to the standards of the time, and the French Horn (I think)= =20 just did not cut the mustard. Full organ, of course, was exciting, but the= =20 room pretty much killed any chance of real drama. The second piece was an= =20 interminable rendering of variations by Sweelinck (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)... these= =20 pieces REALLY, REALLY, REEEAAAAAAALLLLLY, need mean-tone to be interesting.=20= =20 At least the organ could WOLF at you and wake you up! My tolerance level fo= r=20 boredom and irritation being reached, I headed for the door and enjoyed the=20 quiet Boston evening and a leisurely walk back to the hotel for a nice shrim= p=20 cocktail. << Just to impinge the point a LITTLE further: If we keep installing coarse voiced, maltuned, hard-to-play instruments like this (Frisky seems to be working for some kind of award in this area; Glatter-G=F6tz is another), NO one's going to come to HEAR them! >> Thank you SO much for including me in that wonderful category of "no one." =20= =20 It makes me feel like I'm working in a church again! The Fisk at Wellseley= =20 was wonderful contrast to other organs heard. And I will comment at this=20 point, that I don't feel that I heard much "true" equal temperament while in= =20 Boston. The tuning of these organs seemed to favor certain keys, while not=20 doing noticeable damage to others. Tuning was really impressive throughout,= =20 even on the neglected organs. Granted the Fisk is too loud, but so are som= e=20 other organs. I just cannot grasp how people, musicians especially, can=20 not enjoy variety. One of the reasons I don't especially enjoy symphonic=20 music is that basically all orchestras sound alike. Organs are unique and=20 each one SHOULD have a personality all its own. This was one of the really=20 interesting aspects of seeing the various Hook organs. Each one was unique=20 in a particular way, although all of them adhered to a very high standard of= =20 organ building. << Even during the "dark days" of Wagnerian orchestral voicing, people turne= d=20 out for organ recitals by the thousands. Now, what....tens? Hundreds for=20= a=20 big artist? People still DO turn out in large numbers for SOME organs. The= =20 most attended in California? The 1915 AUSTIN in San Diego! No "air=20 calliope" there!=20 Biggest draw in Pennsylvania? Wanamaker's. You figure it out.>> No problem.... it's fun. People will go to anything that's fun. Rasslin'=20 matches, hockey games, Broadway plays, etc. The venue is interesting at=20 Wanamaker's, Spreckle's and Kotzschmar (Portland City Hall--(ME) venues. =20 Place these organs in churches and the attendance would hit the floor. =20 During the dark days of Wagnerian voicing, people did not have TV sets and=20 other varied forms of entertainments--the comparison doesn't work. =20 =20 Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502
(back) Subject: Re: OHS Boston, Monday 8/21 From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:41:49 EDT In a message dated 8/26/00 1:46:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ManderUSA@aol.com writes: << First stop: Church of the Redeemer, Chestnut Hill, Newton, something of = a cookie-cutter Anglican pretend Gothic building, >> Although, one of those folks who made the dash for the choir loft, I did = not find the organ over-powering, although it was, um bold! I'm not sure = what the phenomenon is, but I really enjoying hearing these organs up-close and = personal. I sat within arm's distance of the Fisk at Memorial Church and loved it! I found the flutes and reeds colorful and the principals nice = and warm. It was a very pleasant experience, and for me it would be a = very nice organ with which to sing, since I am weekly relegated to sitting = almost under the case on Sunday mornings (booooooooo!). I have wanted to see = and hear this instrument for years. <The next recital gave me my opportunity to hear for the first time, a new = instrument built by George Bozeman, which, like its builder, is full of = color and character. Unlike George, the instrument has rather active or flexible = wind, a bit more so than wanted, as there was clearly no room for the main = reservoir right with the instrument - it is in the next room - and even fitted with concussion bellows, things get very occasionally a bit bouncy. = But I really liked the whole effect, and the sound in particular. There is = an amazing wooden 16' Pedal Trombone, tremendously round and full in sound, = but not loud, and perhaps a bit slow of speech, but really fun when it opens = out. I really like the organ and was disappointed not so much by the instrument = as by the player's seeming lack of comfort in playing it. There were times when it seemed to get away from her, especially on released chords. I = would really like to have spent some time playing that organ, it sounded really responsive and the tonality was very pleasant. I was really disappointed = that she dumped the Buxgtehude. This would have been an opportunity to = hear it in another temperament, and this piece is just chocked full of temperamental moments. I was almost ornamented to death by the end of the DeGringny. Out of liturgical context, these pieces don't do as well as they might (for me). <....the final hymn, shattering our hymn singing pride just a bit. Neither = the program nor our little Hymn Supplement say who wrote the tune Coe Fen ... = a fine tune it is, too, but the words were on the facing page, which made it = a bit tough in reading a quite complex tune, particularly when it came time = for harmony. Brian had the grace to suggest that he expected us to finally be really strong by the last stanza. We might have done better had we had an opportunity to breathe or = pronounce words. I don't know where the fire was, but if it started the same time = we did, it barely had a chance to catch a blaze! I attended Trinity Chuch Copley Square on Sunday morning and the hymns were not THAT fast, although = "Make me a Chunnel" could not have been over too soon for me -- urp, and = in such a lovely building! Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of Wicks.... From: "Brent Johnson" <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:00:50 -0500 > At the OHS convention in Boston we heard a 1938 Wicks which was voiced = by > Henry Vincent Willis (of ENGLAND!!!). The stoplist: I read this organ was to be featured at the OHS convention, but didn't = know if this was true. It is slated for some repairs, and the last word I = heard was that it wasn't going to be played until the repairs were finished. There is a complete stoplist and a photo on the Wicks web page at www.wicks.com/organ . There are still a few Wicks organs voiced by Willis around the factory = area that one can hear. The most popular is the church of St. Alphonsus the = Rock in St. Louis. I'm working on puting together some information on this organ, including some possible recordings. It seems lots of poeple have heard of these organs, but there is little information out there. Maybe soon! Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com The Theatre Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com/theatre
(back) Subject: Re: Moeller opus list et al From: "Paul Stapel" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:28:03 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=3D_NextPart_000_0058_01C00F69.D81BFEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: "Brent Johnson" <email@example.com> > > In a message dated 8/25/00 8:56:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > LLWheels@aol.com > > writes: > > Now, now! Be nice. You all need to send the nice folks at Wicks a = =3D box > of > > candy. It was Rogers that bought the AEolian-Skinner stuff. (I > believe!!) > > ;-) > > >=3D20 > As the only representative of Wicks on this list, I think all candy =3D should > be sent directly to me! >=3D20 careful, Brent, there is AT LEAST one more of us.!!! We can share! Paul Stapel, Binghamton ------=3D_NextPart_000_0058_01C00F69.D81BFEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.3018.900" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>From: "Brent Johnson" = <</FONT><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org"><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>email@example.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>></FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>> > In a message dated 8/25/00 = =3D 8:56:47 PM=3D20 Eastern Daylight Time,<BR>> </FONT><A =3D href=3D3D"mailto:LLWheels@aol.com"><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>LLWheels@aol.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT = face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>>=3D20 > writes:<BR>> > Now, now! Be nice. You all =3D need to=3D20 send the nice folks at Wicks a box<BR>> of<BR>> > candy. = =3D It was=3D20 Rogers that bought the AEolian-Skinner stuff. (I<BR>>=3D20 believe!!)<BR>> > ;-)<BR>> ><BR>> <BR>> As the only=3D20 representative of Wicks on this list, I think all candy should<BR>> =3D be sent=3D20 directly to me!<BR>> <BR><FONT face=3D3D"BellGothic Blk BT" =3D size=3D3D3>careful,=3D20 Brent, there is AT LEAST one more of us</FONT></FONT><FONT = face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>.!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"BellGothic Blk BT">We can share!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"BellGothic Blk BT">Paul Stapel, =3D Binghamton</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=3D_NextPart_000_0058_01C00F69.D81BFEF0--