PipeChat Digest #1581 - Monday, August 28, 2000
 
Re: Heinz 57 organ???? - now sleeping like a kitten -- a digresion from t
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
sleep like a kitten on the C & O
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Heinz 57 organ???? - now sleeping like a kitten -- a digresion from t
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  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Jack Bethards Visits National Shrine Kilgen (x post)
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Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Heinz 57 organ????
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: sleep like a kitten on the C & O
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Smoky Mary Letter in TAO
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Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? - now sleeping like a kitten -- a digresion from topic From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:05:06 EDT   In a message dated 00-08-28 17:40:39 EDT, you write:   << I suppose no one knows what "sleep like a kitten on the C&O" means, either. >> Actually, that phrase started in the 30's back in the days when rail = travel was a miulti-day experience, and people actually slept in "sleeper cars" which were basically rolling bunk beds. the first of the ads pictured a = young girl sleeping with a kitten cuddled in her arms. hence the slogan... (at least that's the story I got at the C & O historical society office in =   Clifton FOrge, VA.   Rick M  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:24:33 EDT   In a message dated 8/28/00 7:23:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << I have always heard about Heinz 57 organs, but have NO CLUE what it is >about.<snip> DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! Heinz? The pickle people? "57 Varieties"? You need to brush up a = little more on Americana, a little less on organs! >> Hmmm,, makes me wonder about this "political correctness" and "living room =   talk" ---- in my neck of the woods, Heinz is associated with a mongrel = type dog of unknown pedigree--a Heinz dog--I cant say as I ever have heard it associated with pipe organs, I wonder why its politically correct to say Heinz organ but its not so correct to refer to older "tubby Austins" and "toasters" and the like :-) Keeps me wondering if the Heinz people, who = are just about to bring out GREEN catsup to suit the younger generation's = desire for more colorful foods,,, wouldnt be offended by the reference to a = mongrel pipe organ :-) Bwwwwwwwhhhhhhaaaaaahhaaaaaa Cheers, ---Roc who wonders about green catsup on fries,,,,hmmmmm--well,,,I bet I know = which Mc chain will adopt it as standard first :-)  
(back) Subject: sleep like a kitten on the C & O From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:32:14 -0700   And some of the best sleeping in the world it was, too ... second only to sleeping on a large ocean liner.   RMaryman@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 00-08-28 17:40:39 EDT, you write: > > << I suppose no one knows what "sleep > like a kitten on the C&O" means, either. >> > Actually, that phrase started in the 30's back in the days when rail = travel > was a miulti-day experience, and people actually slept in "sleeper cars" > which were basically rolling bunk beds. the first of the ads pictured a = young > girl sleeping with a kitten cuddled in her arms. hence the slogan... > (at least that's the story I got at the C & O historical society office = in > Clifton FOrge, VA. > > Rick M > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:37:01 -0700   At 04:36 7:24 PM 8/28/00 , you wrote: >The heat & thunderstorms in the desert must be makin' the ol' Bobster >crankier than usual -- I'm sure the younger folk on the list might never >have paid any attention to those wonderful Heinz 57 organs....   Maybe dB doesn't know Jason's just ... uh ... 16, is it??   BTW: There are "57 Varieties" dogs and cats too. (Not Bruce's beagles, of course). By this time, I'd say a lot of -us- would qualify too. :-))   Ron Yost ~English, Irish, French-Canadian, Dutch mutt    
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? - now sleeping like a kitten -- a digresion from topic From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:42:18 EDT   some more digression from topic--   Actually,,,I think that the reference was aimed at convincing the = travelling public that the C&O did a great job of maintaining their roadbed and track =   structure, hence the smoother ride and the ability to sleep like a kitten. =   The New York Central did a similar thing with their advertising that its route to Chicago was *the water level route--you can sleep* as a slur = against the Pennsylvania Railroad, who traversed the Alleghany mountains on its = way to Chicago and perhaps did not offer as smooth a ride. Regards to all-- ---Roc who never found a fireman in the cab of his locomotive that wanted to talk =   about pipe organs :-)  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? - now sleeping like a kitten -- a digresion from topic From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:43:48   At 08:42 PM 8/28/2000 EDT, you wrote: >---Roc >who never found a fireman in the cab of his locomotive that wanted to = talk >about pipe organs :-)<snip>   Hal Davis over on the HamTech and E-Org lists was a hogger for the NYC on the Michigan Central Division, the only money-making part of the Central for many years...HE'LL talk with you about organs, only mostly electronic types! He'll also talk about J-3a Hudsons with you, too.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:39:52   At 08:24 PM 8/28/2000 EDT, you wrote: >in my neck of the woods, Heinz is associated with a mongrel type >dog of unknown pedigree--a Heinz dog<snip>   I had such a dog years ago, and indeed named him "Heinz". Best dog anyone could hope for, but he looked like a walking spare parts bin.   >I cant say as I ever have heard it >associated with pipe organs, I wonder why its politically correct<snip>   I've never been found guilty of being "politically correct" in my life. "PC" is the downfall of the left, replacing real social, political and other discourse with "tea time pleasantry", which accomplishes nothing, = and lets Big Business and other right wing factions win every time. If something's "bad", "wrong", "screwed-up", it should be known as such, not perfumed with bland, meaningless euphemisms.   DeserTBoB      
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:44:37   At 05:40 PM 8/28/2000 -0400, you wrote: >I suppose no one knows what "sleep >like a kitten on the C&O" means, either.<snip>   ....and the kitten's name? "Chessie".   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:01:49 EDT   Jason, In the old days (when the rest of us were young) the Heinz company advertised that they made 57 varieties of "stuff". The term "Heinz 57" became a slang reference to something being a combination of "57 = varieties" of miscellaneous, often unrelated, parts.   As FoghornLeghorn says: It's a joke, son; a joke, that is!   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Jack Bethards Visits National Shrine Kilgen (x post) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:06:23 EDT   In a message dated 8/28/00 5:21:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = ScottFop@aol.com writes:   << He seemed very pleased with both the instrument and the building. >>   I can't wait to come visit the shrine so that I can be the first person to =   walk in, listen, and then say:   Why this is such a lovely building, but the organ is a pile of #&^%$!!   (of course, I'll be kidding) heeheehee   I worked for a priest once who, at a very swanky dinner at a parishoner's home, tasted the wine and then fell on the floor gagging. It was a = moment of true merriment! ;-)   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:09:30 EDT   In a message dated 8/28/00 8:39:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = musik@tcsn.net writes:   << Maybe dB doesn't know Jason's just ... uh ... 16, is it?? >>   heeheehee   Wouldn't matter. DessertBooB is an equal opportunity crab!   But we love 'em ennyhoo! ;-)   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Holwling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Heinz 57 organ???? From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:16:10 -0400   > "PC" is the downfall of the left, replacing real social, political and > other discourse with "tea time pleasantry", which accomplishes nothing, = and > lets Big Business and other right wing factions win every time. If > something's "bad", "wrong", "screwed-up", it should be known as such, = not > perfumed with bland, meaningless euphemisms.   Couldn't agree with ya more! Don't always agree with you, but this time - =   yeh-ap. TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: sleep like a kitten on the C & O From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:31:23 -0400   I'm glad to see that so many people still remember Chessie. For a long time the C&O still used a stylized version of the sleeping kitten as its logo. I can't remember seeing it for quite a while but will take a look next time I get to watch a Conrail freight train go by (parts of our excellent subway system run parallel to the railroad tracks in Maryland = and Virginia, so train-spotting is a way to pass the time while waiting for = the subway).   Evie    
(back) Subject: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:55:00 -0400 (EDT)   I hope I am not out of line in posting this thread. But I received my "The American Organist" magazine today (Monday), in which was printed a letter from the rector of St. Mary the Virgin, NYC (relating to their unjust firing of their previous music director/organist).   Not one iota of decency in it, despite what the words say. Empty words are just that--empty.   I'm quite disturbed.   Neil Brown Barnegat, NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:02:29 -0700   Is the letter too long to post? I don't get TAO. I'm also very concerned about that situation.   Cheers,   Bud   Innkawgneeto@webtv.net wrote:   > I hope I am not out of line in posting this thread. But I received my > "The American Organist" magazine today (Monday), in which was printed a > letter from the rector of St. Mary the Virgin, NYC (relating to their > unjust firing of their previous music director/organist). > > Not one iota of decency in it, despite what the words say. Empty words > are just that--empty. > > I'm quite disturbed. > > Neil Brown > Barnegat, NJ USA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO From: "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:02:22 -0500   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > Is the letter too long to post? I don't get TAO. I'm also very concerned > about that situation. > > Cheers, > > Bud   Bud...if you don't get any takers, I can re-write it for you and send it..no prob. JNP  
(back) Subject: Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:19:50 -0400 (EDT)   If it's within list rules, I'll be happy to post it. It could be at the AGO website, though.    
(back) Subject: Re: Smoky Mary Letter in TAO From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:39:37 -0400 (EDT)   > I hope I am not out of line in posting this thread. But I received my > "The American Organist" magazine today (Monday), in which was printed a > letter from the rector of St. Mary the Virgin, NYC (relating to their > unjust firing of their previous music director/organist). > > Not one iota of decency in it, despite what the words say. Empty words > are just that--empty.   If one remembers that canon law requires that the parish musician serves at the pleasure of the rector, then one at least begins to read the Rector's notion that the new broom that sweeps him/her into a situation can properly also bring a new musician to replace the old one. The letter states gently but clearly that the new rector desired a new vision for Smokey Mary's, including for music. (I have no idea what seemed to be wrong with the prior vision for music.)   It's not far different from the situation at Trinity Church, Copley Square, Boston, where years ago the new rector fired Arnatt and brought in, if my memory is correct, the current incumbent Brian Jones. Arnatt ended up at Westminster Choir College, and at least Jones remains at Trinity Church and is quite popular there and among many other persons. The world was a bit shocked that so fine a guy as Arnatt would be fired at the pleasure of the rector. I don't like it, but that's the church law. Musicians who take jobs in Episcopal churches ought to know this up front and then behave accordingly.   Or am I missing something? Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA