PipeChat Digest #1693 - Thursday, December 7, 2000
 
Re: I have had it!
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Fw: I have had it...sort of..
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: I have had it!
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Moller #4684
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: I have had it...sort of..
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Fw: I have had it...sort of..
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
RE:PipeChat Digest #1691 - 12/06/00
  by "S. Kishimoto (go" <VEM04372@nifty.ne.jp>
Bottles and consoles
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Theatre Organ Classified ads
  by "hiplain" <hiplain@flash.net>
Re: Fw: I have had it!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: I have had it!
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: I have had it
  by <LLWheels@aol.com>
Re: I have had it
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Westminster Lessons and Carols
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
What's It Worth?
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com>
Last chance Clarinet
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: I have had it...sort of..
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Trenton, NJ Lessons and Carols
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: What's It Worth?
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: I have had it! From: "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:33:51 +0000   It strikes me, from following this thread, the contributions to which have =   greatly impressed me, that there is a real need for a new Church/Denomination - called the PipeChat Church. You folks can be so uplifting. We'd make a great congregation, including wonderful = ministerial leadership respecting our various talents (and any lack of): we are such like-minded people, any conflicts would surely be minor ones - the worst probably being over the type of pipe organ and what it should sound like! = - and as we recall the great dictat, "Let Brotherly love continue", none of us would ever face the appalling treatment that John has just experienced. I sometimes allow myself to think how marvellous it could be, and what an uplifting experience it would be to worship with such a congregation as you would make. (I can dream, can't I?)   Wishing you the joys of the season, wherever you are and wherever you = worship.   Cheryl     http://www.copemanhart.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Fw: I have had it...sort of.. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:52:50 -0500   Word has it that Al Melgaard sipped a glass of gin or vodka while playing the Chi-town stadium organ.   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh Drogemuller <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:52 PM Subject: I have had it...sort of..     > The postings about having a fifth of a well known bourbon at the console > remind me of a photograph shown in one of the early editions of the = I.S.O. > Journal which showed a fifth of Black and White in plain view in a small > cupboard built into the end of the stop jambs of an organ console. The door > was open when the photograph had been taken. I believe the photo had = been > taken in Germany. > > HD > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Fw: I have had it! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:54:50 -0500   Wouldn't it be nice if the new pastor is an organ enthusiast?   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cremona502@cs.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:12 AM Subject: Re: I have had it!     > In a message dated 12/6/00 8:30:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!, DRAWKNOB@aol.com > writes: > > << I met with Pastor Howard today. He didn't offer up an apology, just an > excuse saying that he didn't care what we sing as long as the people = can > sing it....>> > > sheesh.... and they wonder why attendance is down! > > << Regarding the children's pageant, I was told to loosen up. >> > > Probably good advice, although not necessarily what we hope for... > > <<The other news is that he's leaving at the end of January if the = pastor > they are negotiating with accepts the call. >> > > Well, at least there is good news. I hope the new one is a good one. Best > of luck. > > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Fw: Moller #4684 From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:01:56 -0500   Good-going, Luther. When we gonna hear the zillofone?   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Luther Melby <lmelby@prtel.com> To: Pipe Chat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:14 AM Subject: Moller #4684     > Some of you may recall that I am installing a > 1926 Moller organ in my church. > I now have nearly finished the Swell. It was played > for the 1st time last Sunday, the first Sunday in Advent. > With 5 ranks it sounded quite nice, this Sunday it should > have all 7 ranks in the Swell up and running. > Lots of work left in the Great. > I am really enjoying this project, it is a learning experience. > Thanks to those on this list who have offered advice and encouragement. > Luther > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it...sort of.. From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 20:15:11 +0800   That could have been in the Ratzeburg (sp?) Cathedral - large Rieger = organ. The bottle was in a drawer with a drawstop called Rauchs something or other. Forget the name but it was quite descriptive. Bob Elms.   Hugh Drogemuller wrote:   > The postings about having a fifth of a well known bourbon at the console > remind me of a photograph shown in one of the early editions of the = I.S.O. > Journal which showed a fifth of Black and White in plain view in a small > cupboard built into the end of the stop jambs of an organ console. The = door > was open when the photograph had been taken. I believe the photo had = been > taken in Germany. > > HD > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Fw: I have had it...sort of.. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:24:43 -0500   Could be Rauchs Reliable Pain-Reliever. <G>   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: Re: I have had it...sort of..     > That could have been in the Ratzeburg (sp?) Cathedral - large Rieger organ. The > bottle was in a drawer with a drawstop called Rauchs something or = other. > Forget the name but it was quite descriptive. > Bob Elms. > > Hugh Drogemuller wrote: > > > The postings about having a fifth of a well known bourbon at the = console > > remind me of a photograph shown in one of the early editions of the I.S.O. > > Journal which showed a fifth of Black and White in plain view in a = small > > cupboard built into the end of the stop jambs of an organ console. The door > > was open when the photograph had been taken. I believe the photo had been > > taken in Germany. > > > > HD > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Click here for Free Video!! > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE:PipeChat Digest #1691 - 12/06/00 From: "S. Kishimoto (go" <VEM04372@nifty.ne.jp> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 21:44:03 +0900   Hi! Chatters!   I have been nominated as an organistof Christmas Eve Service.   Now is the winter season, and the service will begin at 7:00 PM.   My turn is to select prelude and postude and play them with all other hymns, etc.   I am a pianist rather than an organist. Because most of time, I play piano only. And I am now thiking about the selection of Christmas Eve service.   Is there anyone who has nice idea for my seloection?   For the time being, I am now thinking to play the following pieces. Becuase Japanese congregation likes to hear very, solemn tone at Christmas Eve service, in general.   F. Listzt : Consolation No. 3 and 4 (both are played by piano and also by organ) E. Grieg : Notturno (from Lilych Pieces) by piano C. Franck : Priere (any pieces titled as Priere)   Waiting to hear any suggestion for Christmas Eve service.   S. Kishimoto (handle name : gordito)   P.S. On Dec. 23, the national holiday in Japan, I have to play Piano Concert No. 12 composed by Mozart in two pianos version with the instruments of Steinway ande Besendorfer. This means no sufficient time allowed for me to practice for Christmas Eve service.    
(back) Subject: Bottles and consoles From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 07:06:00 -0600   ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh Drogemuller <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:52 PM Subject: I have had it...sort of..     > The postings about having a fifth of a well known bourbon at the console > remind me of a photograph shown in one of the early editions of the = I.S.O. > Journal which showed a fifth of Black and White in plain view in a small > cupboard built into the end of the stop jambs of an organ console. The door > was open when the photograph had been taken. I believe the photo had > been taken in Germany.   But you got to remember - as cold as some of those churches are, that = bottle was first aid!   Glenda Sutton a believer in therapeutic drinking      
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Classified ads From: "hiplain" <hiplain@flash.net> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:08:48 -0600   "STEVE PITTS" <steve.pitts@adtran.com> wrote:   > I have responded to at least 4 "wanted to sell" adds in the Theatre = Organ > Classified adds and the Church Organ Trader recently.These people are = not > calling or e-mailing me back.....is this typical?   I have had roughly 60-70% response from TO Classifieds and CO Trader = combined.    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: I have had it! From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:57:33 EST   In a message dated 12/7/00 6:00:46 AM Central Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   << Wouldn't it be nice if the new pastor is an organ enthusiast? >>   Hmmm, I have mixed feelings there... the interim pastor (Rev. Howard) did play organ when he was in seminary 40 some odd years ago.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it! From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:22:12 -0500 (EST)   Cheryl, I don't know about the rest of the listers, but I'm as human as anyone. I do think, however, that church musicians, organists, organbuilders, on the whole, have a common interest and identity that causes us to look to each other for strength, encouragement, and support that we may be unable to find elsewhere.   What we do is so specialized, requiring so much skill and diplomacy. And, unlike other church workers (pastors, associates, etc), the results of our work are immediately noticed and recognized each and every week. A pastor may never know how his/her work is impacting the parishioners. We, however, have tangible results, even as we hope that our work ministers to the heart as well (I hope that made sense).   Could we all stand each other week in and week out? I'm not sure -- I guess we'll find out when we get to heaven. What I do know, is as long as there are churches that need musicians, I don't think PipeChat Church would last, because each of us would be hankering to get out there and serve.   Peace to you all. Neil B    
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:00:52 EST   Surely you can get out of the rap assignment! Just point out that you are = the director of MUSIC and since rap is NOT music and not even related = thereunto, it is not your department.   Larry L. Wheelock Organist Conductor Composer Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, WI Austin Organ Co. Opus 1628, 1928 III/55    
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 15:18:20 -0500       LLWheels@aol.com wrote: > > Surely you can get out of the rap assignment! Just point out that you = are the > director of MUSIC and since rap is NOT music and not even related = thereunto, > it is not your department. >   OR... Get someone knowledgeable about rap to ghost write one - complete with all of the colorful language favored by the performers in that medium.. AND.. have the *reverand* as the central subject/target of the piece. It was *his* choice to propose this inappropriate piece, wasn't it?   Stan Lowkis  
(back) Subject: Westminster Lessons and Carols From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:09:17 EST     --part1_f9.55b53ad.2761567d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Westminster Choir College Presents An Evening of Readings and Carols Friday, December the 8th at 8pm Saturday, December the 9th at 8pm at The Princeton University Chapel   featuring   The Westminster Symphonic Choir Joseph Flummerfelt, Conductor   The Westminster Chapel Choir James Jordan, Conductor   The Westminster Schola Cantorum Heather Buchannan, Conductor   The Westminster Concert Bell Choir Kathleen Ebling-Thorne, Conductor   with   The Solid Brass   Organists Stephen Williams and Jason Vodicka     *Both nights are sold-out, but they will be releasing 150 new tickets.*   --part1_f9.55b53ad.2761567d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><P ALIGN=3DCENTER><FONT SIZE=3D4 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><B>Westminster Choir = College</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></B>Presents <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><B>An Evening of Readings and = Carols</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Friday, December the 8th at 8pm <BR>Saturday, December the 9th at 8pm <BR></B>at <BR><B>The Princeton University Chapel <BR> <BR></B>featuring <BR> <BR><B>The Westminster Symphonic Choir <BR></B>Joseph Flummerfelt, Conductor <BR> <BR><B>The Westminster Chapel Choir <BR></B>James Jordan, Conductor <BR> <BR><B>The Westminster Schola Cantorum <BR></B>Heather Buchannan, Conductor <BR> <BR><B>The Westminster Concert Bell Choir <BR></B>Kathleen Ebling-Thorne, Conductor <BR> <BR>with <BR> <BR><B>The Solid Brass <BR> <BR>Organists</B> <BR>Stephen Williams and Jason Vodicka <BR> <BR> <BR>*Both nights are sold-out, but they will be releasing 150 new = tickets.*</P></FONT></HTML>   --part1_f9.55b53ad.2761567d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: What's It Worth? From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:18:33 -0500   Hello again, all.   I've been asked by my church to "find out the cash recovery value of the = old organ."   The old organ in this case is a worn-out, not very large Lye tracker.   Before any of you frantically start composing "Why would you want to do = such an insane thing as get rid of it?" e-mails, you may as well save your fingertips; that ship has sailed. = There simply wasn't the will out there to repair it, and we now have replaced it with an Allen digital. The Lye's still up there, and still playable (barely), but renovation of the front of the sanctuary is being = considered, and the powers that be would like to know what they can get for the Lye should they choose to get rid of it.   Note that at this point it is NOT for sale, so don't send offers to purchase, please.   Based on what I've seen and read elsewhere, my off-the-cuff answer was, = "In the range of $500 to $1,000." (This was said to Canadians, in Canada, = eh?) Incredulity was about all that registered on the faces before me, the = upshot being that I need something more concrete than my own assessment.   I guesstimate that the range of cash recovery value would depend on how = it's calculated, either:   a) sold in its entirety, or   b) parted out.   If (a) applies, the organ would have to be a very close fit to an existing congregation's needs, and would be the subject of all the usual labour-intensive careful deconstruction, moving, etc., severely limiting what can be asked for cashwise.   If (b), then the "dismantling" could be much more cavalier, with the high-value bits like the blower selling quickly, with the pipework (and chests?) taking a bit longer to find a buyer for, and who knows what happening to the casework and the remaining wood (although if the = instrument is scrapped, it might be possible to essentially slice the face off of it and mount it against the front wall of the sanctuary, somewhat preserving the heritage appearance, at least).   In any event, without knowing what's there, you can't do an assessment, so here goes.   Blower (I had to read some of this off the nameplate with a hand mirror, = as the blower's in a close-fitting muffler box):   Made In Germany by:   Aug. Laukhuff Weikersheim 5 85 S "Ventus" (Model name, I think) M.C. 14/min (14 Cubic Metres/minute, almost certainly; about 500 scfm) W.S. Press 120 (120 mm water column, about 4 1/2", by my calculations) 0.75 HP 6.6/3.8 A (numbers seem a bit wonky, but that's what it looked like) 110/220V 1/2/3 Ph. (3 phase motor, but can be wired to run 1-phase using a = capacitor, which is how it is presently wired) 60 Hz. 3360 rpm   Auftraq (sp?) # 68325 Motor Nr. 39271   Organ itself:   Definitely a Lye; Opus # uncertain   Swell: Traverse Flute 4' Aeoline 8' ] Viola 8' ] no bottom octave Stopped Diapason 8' ]   Stopped Diapason 8' (bass, 12 pipes) duplexed (shared) by 3 ranks above   Swell-Great Swell-Pedal Great-Pedal       Great: Mixture, 3-rank Dulciana 8' Principal 4' Clarabella 8' Open Diapason 8' "Floating" (?) 8'-4'-2' Open Diapason rank, larger scale, E-P action, = driven via contact rail on Great (was added to beef up volume, as existing ranks = of smaller scale could not provide enough sound to lead enthusiastic singing, even at full organ)       Pedal: 16' Bourdon     The instrument is located in the Beth-El Christian Reformed Church, in Acton, Ontario.   Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.   Carl Snip    
(back) Subject: Last chance Clarinet From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 16:22:27 -0500   Dear list,   We are currently trying to liquidate a nice Clarinet rank on Ebay; It's = not moving. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D518449136&r=3D0&t= =3D0&showTut orial=3D0&ed=3D976561518&indexURL=3D0&rd=3D1   Before we relist it at a lower price, we'd like to give our list members who may not track eBay a chance. We'd like to get $225 for it (yes it has = 3 missing pipes). If we get an acceptable offer from a member here on wednesday 12/13 when the auction runs out, we won't relist it. We can't legally accept any offers until the auction is officially over.   Remember, you're helping to place a pipe organ in a high school.   Thanks for your time.   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it...sort of.. From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:22:48 -0500   > The postings about having a fifth of a well known bourbon at the console > remind me of a photograph shown in one of the early editions of the = I.S.O. > Journal which showed a fifth of Black and White in plain view in a small > cupboard built into the end of the stop jambs of an organ console. The door > was open when the photograph had been taken. I believe the photo had = been > taken in Germany.   Didn't we have a discussion a while back about adding a coupler called "Bourbon to Organist"?   -Rebekah    
(back) Subject: Trenton, NJ Lessons and Carols From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 16:43:29 EST     --part1_c5.bd70433.27615e81_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   A Festal Service of Lessons and Carols First Presbyterian Church of Trenton   featuring   The Chancel Choir and Schola Peter Isherwood, Conductor   The Choraliers Timothy Smith, Conductor   and   The Mighty 78 rank Turner Pipe Organ Peter Isherwood, Organist     ~Works by Byrd, Holst, Praetorius, Rubrra, and many others.~     Sunday, December the 10th 3 o'clock in the afternoon   ~Come be joyful in the sounds and spirit of the season~     Directions: (from Turnpike) -Exit 7A to Rt. 195 West -Rt. 195 into Trenton to 29 North to Rt. 129 -(Pass Laylor, Cass, and Hamilton Streets till you meet Rt. 1) ----------------------------------------or---------------------------------= ---   --- -Rt. 1 North or South to Perry Street Exit in Trenton City. -Left at off ramp onto Perry -Go through the first two lights and make a left at the Second. -Now on N. Montgomery St. -Proceed to the first light and make a right onto Hanover St. -The church driveway is on the left after the buildings, before the = hedges. Parking is also available in the lot across the street.   --part1_c5.bd70433.27615e81_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><P ALIGN=3DCENTER><FONT SIZE=3D5 = FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><B><I>A Festal = Service of Lessons and Carols <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></B>First Presbyterian Church of = Trenton <BR> <BR>featuring <BR> <BR><B>The Chancel Choir and Schola <BR></B>Peter Isherwood, Conductor <BR> <BR><B>The Choraliers <BR></B>Timothy Smith, Conductor <BR> <BR>and <BR> <BR><B>The Mighty 78 rank Turner Pipe Organ</B> <BR>Peter Isherwood, Organist <BR> <BR> <BR>~Works by Byrd, Holst, Praetorius, Rubrra, and many others.~ <BR> <BR> <BR><B>Sunday, December the 10th <BR>3 o'clock in the afternoon <BR> <BR></B>~Come be joyful in the sounds and spirit of the season~ <BR> <BR> <BR><P ALIGN=3DLEFT></I>Directions: <BR><I>(from Turnpike) <BR>-Exit 7A to Rt. 195 West <BR>-Rt. 195 into Trenton to 29 North to Rt. 129 <BR>-(Pass Laylor, Cass, and Hamilton Streets till you meet Rt. 1) <BR>----------------------------------------or-----------------------------= -------<BR><BR>--- <BR>-Rt. 1 North or South to Perry Street Exit in Trenton City. <BR>-Left at off ramp onto Perry <BR>-Go through the first two lights and make a left at the Second. <BR>-Now on N. Montgomery St. <BR>-Proceed to the first light and make a right onto Hanover St. <BR>-The church driveway is on the left after the buildings, before the = hedges. <BR>Parking is also available in the lot across the = street.</I></P></P></FONT></HTML>   --part1_c5.bd70433.27615e81_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: What's It Worth? From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 13:47:56 -0800   The AVERAGE price of a used organ on Organ Clearing House's list is around $5,000 U.S.   You would probably get more for it intact than you would parting it out.   When you DO get ready to dispose of it, you might consider listing it with = OCH. Their website is:   http://www.organclearinghouse.com/   Cheers,   Bud   Carl & Grace Snip wrote:   > Hello again, all. > > I've been asked by my church to "find out the cash recovery value of the = old > organ." > > The old organ in this case is a worn-out, not very large Lye tracker. > > Before any of you frantically start composing "Why would you want to do = such > an insane thing as get rid of it?" > e-mails, you may as well save your fingertips; that ship has sailed. = There > simply wasn't the will out there to repair it, and we now have replaced = it > with an Allen digital. The Lye's still up there, and still playable > (barely), but renovation of the front of the sanctuary is being = considered, > and the powers that be would like to know > what they can get for the Lye should they choose to get rid of it. > > Note that at this point it is NOT for sale, so don't send offers to > purchase, please. > > Based on what I've seen and read elsewhere, my off-the-cuff answer was, = "In > the range of $500 to $1,000." (This was said to Canadians, in Canada, = eh?) > Incredulity was about all that registered on the faces before me, the = upshot > being that I need something more concrete than my own assessment. > > I guesstimate that the range of cash recovery value would depend on how = it's > calculated, either: > > a) sold in its entirety, or > > b) parted out. > > If (a) applies, the organ would have to be a very close fit to an = existing > congregation's needs, and would be the subject of all the usual > labour-intensive careful deconstruction, moving, etc., severely limiting > what can be asked for cashwise. > > If (b), then the "dismantling" could be much more cavalier, with the > high-value bits like the blower selling quickly, with the pipework (and > chests?) taking a bit longer to find a buyer for, and who knows what > happening to the casework and the remaining wood (although if the = instrument > is scrapped, it might be possible to essentially slice the face off of = it > and mount it against the front wall of the sanctuary, somewhat = preserving > the heritage appearance, at least). > > In any event, without knowing what's there, you can't do an assessment, = so > here goes. > > Blower (I had to read some of this off the nameplate with a hand mirror, = as > the blower's in a close-fitting muffler box): > > Made In Germany by: > > Aug. Laukhuff > Weikersheim > 5 85 S "Ventus" (Model name, I think) > M.C. 14/min (14 Cubic Metres/minute, almost certainly; about 500 scfm) > W.S. Press 120 (120 mm water column, about 4 1/2", by my calculations) > 0.75 HP > 6.6/3.8 A (numbers seem a bit wonky, but that's what it looked like) > 110/220V > 1/2/3 Ph. (3 phase motor, but can be wired to run 1-phase using a = capacitor, > which is how it is presently wired) > 60 Hz. > 3360 rpm > > Auftraq (sp?) # 68325 > Motor Nr. 39271 > > Organ itself: > > Definitely a Lye; Opus # uncertain > > Swell: > Traverse Flute 4' > Aeoline 8' ] > Viola 8' ] no bottom octave > Stopped Diapason 8' ] > > Stopped Diapason 8' (bass, 12 pipes) duplexed (shared) by 3 ranks above > > Swell-Great > Swell-Pedal > Great-Pedal > > Great: > Mixture, 3-rank > Dulciana 8' > Principal 4' > Clarabella 8' > Open Diapason 8' > "Floating" (?) 8'-4'-2' Open Diapason rank, larger scale, E-P action, = driven > via contact rail on Great (was added to beef up volume, as existing = ranks of > smaller scale could not provide enough sound to lead enthusiastic = singing, > even at full organ) > > Pedal: > 16' Bourdon > > The instrument is located in the Beth-El Christian Reformed Church, in > Acton, Ontario. > > Thanks in advance for any info you can provide. > > Carl Snip > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org