PipeChat Digest #1696 - Saturday, December 9, 2000
 
Re: off-the-wall Christmas song
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Bottles and consoles
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: I have had it
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Bottles and consoles
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: [faxing]
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: [faxing]
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: off-the-wall Christmas song
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: off-the-wall Christmas song
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: I have had it
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: [faxing]
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: off-the-wall Christmas song
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Organ parts
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: What's It Worth?
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Clavier Magazine
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Public Domain Works
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: What's It Worth?
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Funeral Music for Advent II
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Digital harpsichord with pipe stops for continuo
  by "Noel Jones, A.A.G.O." <gedeckt@usit.net>
Fw: What's It Worth?
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com>
Re: What's It Worth?
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
RIP Alan Laufman!
  by "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net>
Re: What's It Worth?
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: [faxing]
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: off-the-wall Christmas song From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 06:59:26 -0500   Re: "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer................."   Cute song! Let's do it: I'll play the jug and someone else kin play the washtub thumper, jaw harp 'n kazoo.   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: Bottles and consoles From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:11:25 -0500   .....On my first Sunday, the celebrant consecrated way too much wine. ...........you should have heard the postlude. <snip   I can well attest to those Episcopals........they use Chablis (full = strength high-test) in Florida. It helped ease the pain while having to play an = Allen dig-i-tal! Hooooooooo, boy!   Rick    
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:34:50 -0600   Hey, with friends like you, I will need a lot more bourbon in the next = four years.   Glenda Sutton who is in hiding to keep from being called as a counter for the impending massive hand recount that is being foretold by the prophets (and whose = judge was about to ruin her weekend and Christmas by volunteering her)        
(back) Subject: Re: Bottles and consoles From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 07:55:02 +0000   The late Al Melgard kept a well stocked bar behind the big console at the Chicago Stadium...   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: [faxing] From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 09:05:18 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 8-Dec-100 Re: by Quilisma@socal.rr.com > Eric - I couldn't get to the copy machine tonight ... they had the BAR = set > up in front of it (grin) ... I'll try and do it Sunday .... I have to > reduce it on the copy machine to fax it. >   Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these pieces are public domain, I would think faxing them would be illegal. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: [faxing] From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 09:54:11 -0600   At 12/9/00 09:05 AM, Stan Yoder wrote:   >Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these pieces >are public domain, I would think faxing them would be illegal.   Hi, Stan --   I was wondering when the "copyright thing" was gonna occur to someone...   Eric, I'd be cautious about such things before posting obvious requests = for copied music/materials to public email lists. If the materials *are* actually old enough to be "public domain", there's no problem of course (or, if you have permission from the publisher) -- but I for one would = want to be completely certain, to avoid the possibility of all sorts of ugly correspondence from somebody-or-another's-lawyers, or whatever they do to people they believe are "infringing".   Now, back to our regularly-scheduled program...this public-service announcement has been brought to you from "Citizens For Keeping Our A**es Covered"...<grin>...keeping our email exchanges ever-politically-correct! = <lol>   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>          
(back) Subject: Re: off-the-wall Christmas song From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:02:51 -0500   At 01:15 AM 12/9/00 -0500, Carlo wrote: >The Irish Rovers recorded a song a few years back called "Grandma Got Run >Over By A Reindeer". It's hilarious, and here's the lyrics...........   As I understand it, the song was originally done in the 60s by Elmo & Patsy. Several years later Elmo released (without Patsy) "Don't Make Me Play That Grandma Song Again". Neither are quite as fun as the Rovers' version, tho. Related tracks:   Grandpa Got Runned Over By A John Deer - Cledus T. Judd Grandpa Got Run Over By A Beer Truck - The Da Yoopers   ...and finally, yes, it had to happen...Elmo just put out a Florida election humor piece (using the melody of the classic Grandma piece). I stumbled across it in the newsgroups while writing this post. From the chorus of "Ballot of Grandma":   Grandma got run over by a reindeer On her way to vote down at the polls You can say that's why she got distracted And consequently punched too many holes   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Re: off-the-wall Christmas song From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:07:50 EST   In a message dated 12/9/00 12:17:29 AM Central Standard Time, organist@total.net writes:   << The Irish Rovers recorded a song a few years back called "Grandma Got = Run Over By A Reindeer". >>   Hmmmm, a toccata on this might be nice for Christmas eve....  
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:11:37 EST   In a message dated 12/9/00 7:37:40 AM Central Standard Time, gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com writes:   << Glenda Sutton who is in hiding to keep from being called as a counter for the impending massive hand recount... >>   Glenda, If I'm not mistaking, Bruce is in Florida and I'm sure he'd love = to help out ;-).  
(back) Subject: Re: [faxing] From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:14:40 EST   In a message dated 12/9/00 8:07:54 AM Central Standard Time, syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:   << Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these pieces are public domain, I would think faxing them would be illegal. >>   However, with yesterday's ruling I think that pregnant, dimpled, or = hanging faxes would be allowed... ;-)  
(back) Subject: Re: off-the-wall Christmas song From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 12:29:02 -0500       DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/9/00 12:17:29 AM Central Standard Time, > organist@total.net writes: > > << The Irish Rovers recorded a song a few years back called "Grandma Got = Run > Over By A Reindeer". >> > > Hmmmm, a toccata on this might be nice for Christmas eve.... >     ...of course it can't compare to a rap piece or the ubiquitous sopranos screeching from the swell chamber. But perhaps they could be persuaded to learn it for Midnight Mass. If you can talk them into climbing into the organ, it seems that it would be quite easy to convince them to sing just about anything you want.   Stan Lowkis  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ parts From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:42:17 EST   Bud:   There is a Kilgen for sale on Church Organ Trader for $2,500. (Old St. Vincent's Cape Girardeau, MO.) It is worth more than that for the = pipework. Your church may want to buy it and store the usable parts. The way I have used old Kilgens was to keep the toeboards, rackboards (the chests are not =   glued together) and pipes and throw out the rest of the chests. This saves =   lots of dough! If you already saw the ad you might want to check it out, = they have reposted it with more details.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: What's It Worth? From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 11:55:03 -0600   Leave it where it is! Perhaps the next generation will have a greater appreciation for having a real organ, and will have it restored. Roy Redman   Carl & Grace Snip wrote:   > Hello again, all. > > I've been asked by my church to "find out the cash recovery value of the = old > organ." > > The old organ in this case is a worn-out, not very large Lye tracker. > > Before any of you frantically start composing "Why would you want to do = such > an insane thing as get rid of it?" > e-mails, you may as well save your fingertips; that ship has sailed. = There > simply wasn't the will out there to repair it, and we now have replaced = it > with an Allen digital. The Lye's still up there, and still playable > (barely), but renovation of the front of the sanctuary is being = considered, > and the powers that be would like to know > what they can get for the Lye should they choose to get rid of it. > > Note that at this point it is NOT for sale, so don't send offers to > purchase, please. > > Based on what I've seen and read elsewhere, my off-the-cuff answer was, = "In > the range of $500 to $1,000." (This was said to Canadians, in Canada, = eh?) > Incredulity was about all that registered on the faces before me, the = upshot > being that I need something more concrete than my own assessment. > > I guesstimate that the range of cash recovery value would depend on how = it's > calculated, either: > > a) sold in its entirety, or > > b) parted out. > > If (a) applies, the organ would have to be a very close fit to an = existing > congregation's needs, and would be the subject of all the usual > labour-intensive careful deconstruction, moving, etc., severely limiting > what can be asked for cashwise. > > If (b), then the "dismantling" could be much more cavalier, with the > high-value bits like the blower selling quickly, with the pipework (and > chests?) taking a bit longer to find a buyer for, and who knows what > happening to the casework and the remaining wood (although if the = instrument > is scrapped, it might be possible to essentially slice the face off of = it > and mount it against the front wall of the sanctuary, somewhat = preserving > the heritage appearance, at least). > > In any event, without knowing what's there, you can't do an assessment, = so > here goes. > > Blower (I had to read some of this off the nameplate with a hand mirror, = as > the blower's in a close-fitting muffler box): > > Made In Germany by: > > Aug. Laukhuff > Weikersheim > 5 85 S "Ventus" (Model name, I think) > M.C. 14/min (14 Cubic Metres/minute, almost certainly; about 500 scfm) > W.S. Press 120 (120 mm water column, about 4 1/2", by my calculations) > 0.75 HP > 6.6/3.8 A (numbers seem a bit wonky, but that's what it looked like) > 110/220V > 1/2/3 Ph. (3 phase motor, but can be wired to run 1-phase using a = capacitor, > which is how it is presently wired) > 60 Hz. > 3360 rpm > > Auftraq (sp?) # 68325 > Motor Nr. 39271 > > Organ itself: > > Definitely a Lye; Opus # uncertain > > Swell: > Traverse Flute 4' > Aeoline 8' ] > Viola 8' ] no bottom octave > Stopped Diapason 8' ] > > Stopped Diapason 8' (bass, 12 pipes) duplexed (shared) by 3 ranks above > > Swell-Great > Swell-Pedal > Great-Pedal > > Great: > Mixture, 3-rank > Dulciana 8' > Principal 4' > Clarabella 8' > Open Diapason 8' > "Floating" (?) 8'-4'-2' Open Diapason rank, larger scale, E-P action, = driven > via contact rail on Great (was added to beef up volume, as existing = ranks of > smaller scale could not provide enough sound to lead enthusiastic = singing, > even at full organ) > > Pedal: > 16' Bourdon > > The instrument is located in the Beth-El Christian Reformed Church, in > Acton, Ontario. > > Thanks in advance for any info you can provide. > > Carl Snip > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Clavier Magazine From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:50:56 -0600   Doe anyone subscribe to Clavier Magazine who can provide contact info to = set up a new subscription? (address and/or phone)   Thanks,   Robert Eversman    
(back) Subject: Public Domain Works From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 14:44:11 EST     --part1_55.e73c6a0.2763e58b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > At 12/9/00 09:05 AM, Stan Yoder wrote: > > >Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these pieces > >are public domain, I would think faxing them would be illegal.   Tim Bovard responded:   > > Hi, Stan -- > > I was wondering when the "copyright thing" was gonna occur to someone... >   There are public domain works free for the taking at:   < cpdl.snaptel.com/search.htm >   Handsome editions, easy to download and copy. I have found a number of = useful things for my choir.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com       --part1_55.e73c6a0.2763e58b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">At 12/9/00 = &nbsp;09:05 AM, Stan Yoder wrote: <BR> <BR>&gt;Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these = pieces <BR>&gt;are public domain, I would think faxing them would be = illegal.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Tim Bovard responded: <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <BR>Hi, Stan -- <BR> <BR>I was wondering when the "copyright thing" was gonna occur to = someone... <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>There are public domain works free for the taking at: <BR> <BR>&lt; &nbsp;cpdl.snaptel.com/search.htm &nbsp;&gt; <BR> <BR>Handsome editions, easy to download and copy. I have found a number of = useful <BR>things for my choir. <BR> <BR>Cheers, <BR> <BR>Malcolm Wechsler <BR>www.mander-organs.com <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_55.e73c6a0.2763e58b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: What's It Worth? From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:15:41 -0500   Re: The old Lye tracker.   I'm faced with a similar problem. St Patricks in northern Indiana has an = old tracker that they want restored. The money is there (private doner) but = the Bishop is playing games on the go-ahead. It would have to be rebuilt from the ground-up (new wood and metal pipes too)......and a wedding party = wants to use it next spring!   I'm afraid the higher-ups will decide to forget it and make firewood out = of it. I've been in contact with powerful parishoners concerned but it's out of their hands.   Rick    
(back) Subject: Funeral Music for Advent II From: <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 16:58:37 EST   I'm seriously considering breaking with liturgical tradition and playing funeral music as voluntaries tomorrow -- since our democracy is slipping = away like a dying person on a deathbed (the US Supreme Court's latest ruling). =     If anyone is concerned about this contact me privately. I have compiled a =   list of links, addresses and sites so that you may let your voices be = heard.  
(back) Subject: Digital harpsichord with pipe stops for continuo From: "Noel Jones, A.A.G.O." <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 17:24:24 -0500     A users group for those playing or thinking about purchasing the Roland C-80 Harpsichord can be found at:   http://www.egroups.com/group/Harpsichord_Roland   The Roland C-80 Harpsichord is a continuo instrument with five harpsichord registrations, celesta bells and two organ stops, a nason flute 8' and principals 8' + = 4'.   It is in a small case, can be moved in a midsize car and is suitable for use with opera, the orchestra (hence the celesta) and chorus. -- Noel Jones gedeckt@usit.net  
(back) Subject: Fw: What's It Worth? From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 17:34:10 -0500   Dear Roy and List:   I agree! I'd much prefer to just leave it where it is; but it looks as if all the supporting structure at the front of the sanctuary may get demolished--and before that happens, the organ has to be outta there. = (The plan involves reconfiguration of the front of the sanctuary to allow for a much larger area--room for a grand piano, Communion table, baptismal font, central pulpit, and STILL enough room left over for a praise team or = orther groups participating in the worship services.)   If we retain the tracker--and that's a really BIG if--it would have to be relocated to some sort of cantilevered structural steel framework either attached to the front wall of the A-frame building, or to additional = I-beams spanning between the two legs of the A; either method almost certainly requires building design re-engineering and construction skills, an = expense the congregation is not likely to approve (we're Protestant; no hierarchy can order US around! (I speak, as St. Paul states it, "in a human way".)   Therefore, it ain't likely to happen. Possible, but not probable.   Too bad, huh?   crsnip     -----Original Message----- From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, December 09, 2000 12:57 PM Subject: Re: What's It Worth?     >Leave it where it is! Perhaps the next generation will have a greater >appreciation >for having a real organ, and will have it restored. >Roy Redman > >Carl & Grace Snip wrote: > >> Hello again, all. >> >> I've been asked by my church to "find out the cash recovery value of = the old >> organ." >> >> The old organ in this case is a worn-out, not very large Lye tracker. >> >> Before any of you frantically start composing "Why would you want to do such >> an insane thing as get rid of it?" >> e-mails, you may as well save your fingertips; that ship has sailed. There >> simply wasn't the will out there to repair it, and we now have replaced it >> with an Allen digital. The Lye's still up there, and still playable >> (barely), but renovation of the front of the sanctuary is being considered, >> and the powers that be would like to know >> what they can get for the Lye should they choose to get rid of it. >> >> Note that at this point it is NOT for sale, so don't send offers to >> purchase, please. >> >> Based on what I've seen and read elsewhere, my off-the-cuff answer was, "In >> the range of $500 to $1,000." (This was said to Canadians, in Canada, eh?) >> Incredulity was about all that registered on the faces before me, the upshot >> being that I need something more concrete than my own assessment. >> >> I guesstimate that the range of cash recovery value would depend on how it's >> calculated, either: >> >> a) sold in its entirety, or >> >> b) parted out. >> >> If (a) applies, the organ would have to be a very close fit to an existing >> congregation's needs, and would be the subject of all the usual >> labour-intensive careful deconstruction, moving, etc., severely = limiting >> what can be asked for cashwise. >> >> If (b), then the "dismantling" could be much more cavalier, with the >> high-value bits like the blower selling quickly, with the pipework (and >> chests?) taking a bit longer to find a buyer for, and who knows what >> happening to the casework and the remaining wood (although if the instrument >> is scrapped, it might be possible to essentially slice the face off of = it >> and mount it against the front wall of the sanctuary, somewhat = preserving >> the heritage appearance, at least). >> >> In any event, without knowing what's there, you can't do an assessment, so >> here goes. >> >> Blower (I had to read some of this off the nameplate with a hand = mirror, as >> the blower's in a close-fitting muffler box): >> >> Made In Germany by: >> >> Aug. Laukhuff >> Weikersheim >> 5 85 S "Ventus" (Model name, I think) >> M.C. 14/min (14 Cubic Metres/minute, almost certainly; about 500 scfm) >> W.S. Press 120 (120 mm water column, about 4 1/2", by my calculations) >> 0.75 HP >> 6.6/3.8 A (numbers seem a bit wonky, but that's what it looked like) >> 110/220V >> 1/2/3 Ph. (3 phase motor, but can be wired to run 1-phase using a capacitor, >> which is how it is presently wired) >> 60 Hz. >> 3360 rpm >> >> Auftraq (sp?) # 68325 >> Motor Nr. 39271 >> >> Organ itself: >> >> Definitely a Lye; Opus # uncertain >> >> Swell: >> Traverse Flute 4' >> Aeoline 8' ] >> Viola 8' ] no bottom octave >> Stopped Diapason 8' ] >> >> Stopped Diapason 8' (bass, 12 pipes) duplexed (shared) by 3 ranks above >> >> Swell-Great >> Swell-Pedal >> Great-Pedal >> >> Great: >> Mixture, 3-rank >> Dulciana 8' >> Principal 4' >> Clarabella 8' >> Open Diapason 8' >> "Floating" (?) 8'-4'-2' Open Diapason rank, larger scale, E-P action, driven >> via contact rail on Great (was added to beef up volume, as existing = ranks of >> smaller scale could not provide enough sound to lead enthusiastic singing, >> even at full organ) >> >> Pedal: >> 16' Bourdon >> >> The instrument is located in the Beth-El Christian Reformed Church, in >> Acton, Ontario. >> >> Thanks in advance for any info you can provide. >> >> Carl Snip >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: What's It Worth? From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 19:06:13 EST   In a message dated 12/9/00 3:21:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   << (new wood and metal pipes too) >>   Why in the world does this pipework need to be replaced? Even the most = abused and beat up cone (pinch-gouge) tuned pipes can be repaired. It is quite amazing actually, I have taken totally abused pipes that for all = appearances looked like they were good for nothing but the melting pot and made them = like new and I'm not even a real pipe maker. Who recommended this? Perhaps you should get a second opinion.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: RIP Alan Laufman! From: "Stu Ballinger" <wa2bss@vh.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:06:47 -0500   Got a msg. "From the grave" after I sent a msg. to OCH, & bk came the = msg., that in essence said: "w/ my illness in it's final stages, please send all inquires to: amory@organclearinghouse.com" Now doesn't that send a chill up = someone's spine, to read something like that when the sender know's that person has = gone on to his reward? = Thanks,.Stu Ballinger ( 1995 OHS EPB Fellow!)  
(back) Subject: Re: What's It Worth? From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 19:01:43 -0600   If the pipes are there, why should they be replaced. We just restored a c = 1880 Pilcher Bro. in New Orleans that had been vandalized and water damaged! = It was a true basket case, and you would be shocked to see some of the = "before" pictures. These are very simple and sturdy machines, and are almost = always restorable at much less cost than a new organ. Please let me know if I = can help. Roy Redman   VEAGUE wrote:   > Re: The old Lye tracker. > > I'm faced with a similar problem. St Patricks in northern Indiana has an = old > tracker that they want restored. The money is there (private doner) but = the > Bishop is playing games on the go-ahead. It would have to be rebuilt = from > the ground-up (new wood and metal pipes too)......and a wedding party = wants > to use it next spring! > > I'm afraid the higher-ups will decide to forget it and make firewood out = of > it. I've been in contact with powerful parishoners concerned but it's = out > of their hands. > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [faxing] From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 08:41:45 -0800   As far as I know, the piece is POP and the publisher no longer exists. If someone still owns the copyrights, I'm not aware of it.   We were not speaking of the pieces listed, but of one that I had sent earlier ... one page didn't transmit properly. The pieces he listed well may still be in copyright.   Cheers,   Bud   Stanley E Yoder wrote:   > Excerpts from mail: 8-Dec-100 Re: by Quilisma@socal.rr.com > > Eric - I couldn't get to the copy machine tonight ... they had the BAR = set > > up in front of it (grin) ... I'll try and do it Sunday .... I have to > > reduce it on the copy machine to fax it. > > > > Hey guys, what about the law - the copyright law? Unless these pieces > are public domain, I would think faxing them would be illegal. > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org