PipeChat Digest #1701 - Monday, December 11, 2000
 
Extract organ registration with Finale?
  by "Lou and Camilla Hurst" <lchurst@radiks.net>
RE: I have had it
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: New Business
  by "Rick Locher" <iplay4@mediaone.net>
Re: New Business
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Cesar Franck
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Water Motor
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: New Business
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Moody Church Reuter (was New Business)
  by "Dan Miller" <dmiller@rodgers.rain.com>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net>
RE: Cesar Franck
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: I have had it
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
RE: Cesar Franck
  by "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: I have had it
  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>
RE: Cesar Franck
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Still Looking for a Blower
  by "Bob Kinner" <rkinner@one.net>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Cesar Franck
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Still Looking for a Blower
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: Cesar Franck
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: Feeder bellows pumped by water motor - cross posted
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Water Motor
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: New Business
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
 

(back) Subject: Extract organ registration with Finale? From: "Lou and Camilla Hurst" <lchurst@radiks.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 06:12:00 -0600   Seasons Greetings all,   I believe this was recently addressed here, but I need to ask anyway -   We have a Peterson Electronics MIDI playback unit on our pipe organ and we would like to extract the registration information from the playback = disks. How do I go about doing this?   Also, how do we extract the note information to three staff organ rather than normal two staff?   All help gratefully appreciated!!   Lou Hurst, lchurst@radiks.net    
(back) Subject: RE: I have had it From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:43:12 -0500   Hello, I'm back after a one year absence from this list. I basically = listen but hearing this about Rodgers, I'm happy I bought a Johannus...actually = I'd be happy having it anyway. But I'm not surprised my homophobia from folks who deal with religious organizations!! Robert Colasacco   > -----Original Message----- > From: Cremona502@cs.com [mailto:Cremona502@cs.com] > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:42 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: I have had it > > > In a message dated 12/8/00 5:20:48 AM !!!First Boot!!!, > DRAWKNOB@aol.com > writes: > > << However, I must chastise you for your involvement with a > company (Rodgers) > whose representatives (the Forshey Church Organ Company) > provide substandard > customer service and which maintain and display such > HOMOPHOBIC attitudes to > its customers and employees. > >> > > What!!! They don't allow 16 Fagot's on their organs.... or > 4' Querfloten! > > Curse them!! ;-) > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: New Business From: "Rick Locher" <iplay4@mediaone.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:15:56 -0800   I'm almost 99% sure it's a Reuter tht was rebuilt after a fire. Rick   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:45 PM Subject: New Business     > This evening, Sunday, I was listening on the radio to a broadcast from > the "Moody Church" in Chicago. Is anyone familiar with the organ at > Moody Church? > > It sounds like an Aeolian-Skinner to me. > > Just curious. > Neil B. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: New Business From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 09:18:37 EST   In a message dated 12/10/00 4:46:49 PM Dateline Standard Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << This evening, Sunday, I was listening on the radio to a broadcast from the "Moody Church" in Chicago. Is anyone familiar with the organ at Moody Church? >>   Neil et al;   I visited the Moody Church in 1990 while attending ACDA. It has a (rather =   fancy) Reuter console, and whatever the original pipes were, they have = been added to by the organist, a very nice man who has been there for decades. The sound comes from a narrow space above the choir loft, and is = well-mixed by the time it gets to the listener. It sounds on the lush side, but when = I was there, it was used with greatly amplified piano and rhythm section (as =   well as choir and brass ensemble), so I never got to hear just the organ. =   Besides, those folks in attendance (1000+) sang so enthusiastically as to drown out the instruments anyway!   Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Cesar Franck From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:25:12 -0500   Hi, Does anyone else who plays Chorale #3 in a have solutions to the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge streches in those chords that are, well, huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugely strectched, as it were? Oddly, it was = eighteen years that I hadn't played the organ and a year ago got myself a Johannus. = I used to play said chorale but I don't remember having such a problem reaching, in particular, that damned jump-stretch (C-Ab-E) in adagio section--back in those days as much as I do now. I refuse to leave out any notes and can't find any alternative other that to play the chord with an additions slur of anywhere from one to three addtional notes that my = fingers may "lie upon" in between. That's fine if it were Langlais, but it ain't, it's Franck. Can anyone recommend an exercise or some kind of "therapy" to increase the size of one's, uh, well, for now, stretch? Thank you in advance of possible replies, Robert Colasacco   > -----Original Message----- > From: Oboe32@aol.com [mailto:Oboe32@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 12:31 AM > To: Piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu; Pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Lessons and Carols, Trenton, NJ > > > A Service of Lessons and Carols > First Presbyterian Church of Trenton > -The Schola and Chancel Choir of First CHurch > Peter Isherwood, Director > -The Choraliers > Timothy Smith, Director > > Sunday, the 10th of December, 2000: > > Organ Music: > "The Cookoo", Daquin > "Marche Characteristique", Tchaikovsky > > -Carols: > O Come All Ye Faithful > Hark The Herald Angels Sing > The First Noel > Joy to the World > > -Anthems by Chancel and Schola: > Rubbra, "Dormi Jesu" > Praetorius, "En Natus Est Emanuel" > Simeone, "Do You Hear What I Hear?" > Holst, "In the Bleak Midwinter" > Hairston, "Mary's Little Baby" > Saint-Seans, "Praise Ye the Lord of Hosts" > Bedford, "Hodie Christus Natus Est" > > -Anthems by Choraliers: > Byrd, "Justorum Animae" > Byrd, "Kyrie from Mass for Five Voices" > Byrd, "Lullaby My Sweet Little Baby" > Byrd, "Bow Thine Ear" > > Directions to First Church: > -Route 1 North or South into Trenton > -Perry Street Exit, left at end of Off ramp onto Perry. > -Left at N. Montgomery St. > -Right at Hanover St. > -Church Driveway on left before hedges or lot on right. > > -Peter Isherwood > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Water Motor From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:27:51 -0500   Hi Bruce, we saw a water motor in operation on the sidewalk outside a church in Michigan at the Ann Arbor OHS Convention. I remember you = looking carefully at it. It was set up for the occasion, not used by the church regularly. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: New Business From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:58:54 EST   Neil:   The organ at Moody Church is a Reuter. The organist (who hasn't been there = for decades as one E-mail indicates) is John Innes, former organist for = Billy Graham.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:01:45 -0500   the chorale you're talking about is #3 in A minor, and the 3 notes are not (c, ab, e), but rather c#, a, e. Don't forget, Franck had HUGE hands. I = have no problem with this chord. I can play it. I don't know of any way to increase the stretch in anyone's hand. If you can't span that gap, just don't play the bottom note (c#).   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Moody Church Reuter (was New Business) From: "Dan Miller" <dmiller@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:09:05 PDT   Right, it is a 4M Reuter, approx 55 ranks if I remember correctly. I = played it a few times as a substitute organist there during my college days in = Chicago.   Dan Miller     www.danmillermusic.com     From: "Rick Locher" <iplay4@mediaone.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: New Business Date sent: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:15:56 -0800 Send reply to: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>   > I'm almost 99% sure it's a Reuter tht was rebuilt after a fire. > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:45 PM > Subject: New Business > > > > This evening, Sunday, I was listening on the radio to a broadcast from > > the "Moody Church" in Chicago. Is anyone familiar with the organ at > > Moody Church? > > > > It sounds like an Aeolian-Skinner to me. > > > > Just curious. > > Neil B. > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 11:41:45 -0600   or play the c# as the middle note of the chord instead of the bottom,   Jim H     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Cesar Franck     > the chorale you're talking about is #3 in A minor, and the 3 notes are = not > (c, ab, e), but rather c#, a, e. Don't forget, Franck had HUGE hands. I have > no problem with this chord. I can play it. I don't know of any way to > increase the stretch in anyone's hand. If you can't span that gap, just > don't play the bottom note (c#). > > Carlo > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Cesar Franck From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:45:06 -0500   I've thought of that, it would be just a harmonic variation is that case. = I find it hard to brake the melodic line. I keep at it hoping one day the fingers will stretch. One problem is my "hereditary" pinkies which are not only small but at the top joint curve inward at an almost 45 degree angle. = I remember one piano teacher telling me, "that's a problem"! Yeah, like I didn't know that, hel-lo. I was very young then and my = protective/defensive mother told him not to complain about it, she told him "he can reach = 'round and hit an extra key"!!! Boing!!! I have played it as a very quick "arpeggio" sustaining each note then holding on for dear life for the next split second (as you know it's only a quarter beat) but that bothers me = evne though it's quite convincing, probably, to the untrained ear. Damned = Franck and his large hands. Of course, I wouldn't say that were he alive. Thanks all for you help. Sincerely, Robert   > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim [mailto:bald1@prodigy.net] > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 12:42 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Cesar Franck > > > or play the c# as the middle note of the chord instead of the bottom, > > Jim H > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: Cesar Franck > > > > the chorale you're talking about is #3 in A minor, and the > 3 notes are not > > (c, ab, e), but rather c#, a, e. Don't forget, Franck had > HUGE hands. I > have > > no problem with this chord. I can play it. I don't know of > any way to > > increase the stretch in anyone's hand. If you can't span > that gap, just > > don't play the bottom note (c#). > > > > Carlo > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:22:20 +0000       WDBabcock wrote: > > We all know how obtuse some people can be. > William D. "Bill" Babcock > WDBabcock@msn.com > wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us > My goal is to be the person > my dog thinks I am. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: I have had it > > > > > > > WDBabcock wrote: > > > > > > Blessed be he who lights a fire at the feet of the ignorant > to > > > teach them wisdom. > > > > > Are you advocating a return to burning at the stake? <vbg> > > > > Colin > > > > Me? Obtuse? I just wanted to clarify what you meant. <vbg>   Cheers,   Colin.  
(back) Subject: RE: Cesar Franck From: "Randy Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:41:13 -0500   I presume you aren't thinking of the beginning of the Chorale in E, where the pedals, which have nothing else to do, can easily play the left hand's bottom notes. If you are alluding to that part of the piece, problem solved. If you are not alluding to it, sorry for butting in.   I have this vaguest of recollections of having read somewhere that Frank began as a pianist (didn't we all!) and wasn't above arpeggiating or not quite observing absolute legato. I'd better take a look at Rollin Smith's book to correct my memory on this point. Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church Cincinnati, Ohio  
(back) Subject: Re: I have had it From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:35:51 -0600   Sorry Colin, I had thought about clergy but opted for the more generic people. In the words of an old sweatshirt I just tossed (we're moving) "I love humanity, it's people I can't stand. Tis the season.   William D. "Bill" Babcock WDBabcock@msn.com wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us My goal is to be the person my dog thinks I am. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: Re: I have had it     > > > WDBabcock wrote: > > > > We all know how obtuse some people can be. > > William D. "Bill" Babcock > > WDBabcock@msn.com > > wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us > > My goal is to be the person > > my dog thinks I am. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> > > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 6:08 AM > > Subject: Re: I have had it > > > > > > > > > > > WDBabcock wrote: > > > > > > > > Blessed be he who lights a fire at the feet of the ignorant > > to > > > > teach them wisdom. > > > > > > > Are you advocating a return to burning at the stake? <vbg> > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > Me? Obtuse? I just wanted to clarify what you meant. <vbg> > > Cheers, > > Colin. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: RE: Cesar Franck From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:00:53 -0500   No, not the E Chorale. After the first (is it 16) measures of arpeggi of = the opening Quasi allegro section there are arpeggi sostenuti played = largamente where the pedal enters on the second beat of sixteenths in the arpeggi, it is in the last two of these three largamente arpeggi that I double in the pedal just prior to return to Quasi allegro runs and "big close" of what I call section one before 1st pp chordal movement. In the Kalmus edition of what I just attempted to explain takes place on a total of three pages. = I'm not very articulate. But I think you can figure out what I am referring to with in that amount of space. robert   > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Runyon [mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 2:41 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: RE: Cesar Franck > > > I presume you aren't thinking of the beginning of the Chorale in E, > where the pedals, which have nothing else to do, can easily play the > left hand's bottom notes. If you are alluding to that part of the > piece, problem solved. If you are not alluding to it, sorry for > butting in. > > I have this vaguest of recollections of having read somewhere that > Frank began as a pianist (didn't we all!) and wasn't above > arpeggiating or not quite observing absolute legato. I'd better take > a look at Rollin Smith's book to correct my memory on this point. > Randy Runyon > runyonr@muohio.edu > Organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church > Cincinnati, Ohio > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Still Looking for a Blower From: "Bob Kinner" <rkinner@one.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:11:00 -0500   Our church is still looking for a blower: 7" or higher static wind; 1 to 2 hp motor; with or without motor.   Thanks, Bob   -- Bob Kinner AA8FH rkinner@one.net "If at first you don't succeed, switch to power tools." Red Green      
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:23:10 EST   Hi Robert:   You are talking about Franck's A minor Choral. Chorale in E was dedicated to "The Father" the second, in Bminor to "The Son" the third in Aminor to "The Holy Spirit."   The Chorale in A Minor begins with arpeggios. That's the third Chorale.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: RE: Cesar Franck From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:36:45 -0500   Yes that's what I said A minor. I just used lowercase a which indicated minor key. Someone else aseked if I were refering to the E Chorale. I was explaining that it is the a with arpeggi. I may have spelled the chord incorrectly but I certainly got the Chorale right.   > -----Original Message----- > From: RonSeverin@aol.com [mailto:RonSeverin@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 4:23 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: Cesar Franck > > > Hi Robert: > > You are talking about Franck's A minor Choral. Chorale in E was > dedicated to "The Father" the second, in Bminor to "The Son" > the third in Aminor to "The Holy Spirit." > > The Chorale in A Minor begins with arpeggios. That's the third > Chorale. > > Regards, > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Still Looking for a Blower From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:39:17 EST   Hi Bob:   If you can find an old Spencer, the motor can be rebuilt. Most new blowers are for low pressure.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:34:39 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 11-Dec-100 Re: Cesar Franck by RonSeverin@aol.com > Chorale in E was > dedicated to "The Father" the second, in Bminor to "The Son" > the third in Aminor to "The Holy Spirit."   Nope. They were dedicated to individual persons, not the Trinity. The latter was a notion of Joseph Bonnet (*dedication* to the Trinity, that is, not the Trinity itself!) Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:37:53 -0500   choral #1 in E Major was dedicated to Eug=E8ne Gigout choral #2 in b minor was dedicated to Auguste Durand choral #3 in a minor was dedicated to Augusta Holm=E8s (one of Franck's students)   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:07:56 EST   Hi Stan:   Richard Unfried Tells this story everytime he plays them in concert.   Chorale in E was > dedicated to "The Father" the second, in B minor to "The Son" > the third in A minor to "The Holy Spirit."   I know about the dedications, but Franck had a deeper meaning when he composed the three Chorales, and they were for each member of the Blessed Trinity. He was a very devote, French/Belgian Catholic. Richard always emphasizes this fact when he plays these particular pieces by Franck.   Regards,   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:50:18 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 11-Dec-100 Re: Cesar Franck by RonSeverin@aol.com > I know about the dedications, but Franck had a deeper meaning > when he composed the three Chorales, and they were for each > member of the Blessed Trinity.   Where's the documentation for that? Did Franck say that, on paper or to a third party who documented it? If not, it's conjecture or imputation, as is Bonnet: "In composing his Trois Chorals Cesar Franck MIGHT BE SAID to have had in mind the glorification of the Most Holy Trinity" (preface to his edition of the chorals, 1948, New York, J. Fischer & Bro.) (emphasis mine).   It IS a nice notion, though. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Cesar Franck From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:54:42 -0500   I posted something earlier about these 3 chorals, and in that post, I = wrote the names of the people to whom they were dedicated. Anyone can look up = this information for themselves, and see that these 3 chorals were NOT = dedicated to the Trinity.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: Feeder bellows pumped by water motor - cross posted From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:08:48 -0600   You like to hear the pulses of the feeders in the music, eh!? Roy   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 12/11/00 1:07:55 AM !!!First Boot!!!, = jlspeller@stlnet.com > writes: > > << Quite a few people have tried this, but it generally does not work, > since to control the rate of pumping you have to attach some kind of > rheostat and AC motors are generally not flexible enough to stand up to > being frequently slowed down and speeded up in this way. In the early > days of electricity, much mains electricity was DC, and it was = perfectly > possible to design such a system satisfactorily using DC. A number of > instruments had such systems before the rotary blower with a curtain > valve or cone valve to control the flow enabled organs to be run on AC. = >> > > Not to beat a dead horse.... BUT.... might it be possible to operate = a > watermotor substituting air, thus creating a pneumatic motor which would = fill > and exhaust, possibly putting the blower to better use (at least = musically)?/ > > Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com > with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ > Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Water Motor From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:10:26 EST   In a message dated 12/11/00 3:29:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!, 71431.2534@compuserve.com writes:   << Hi Bruce, we saw a water motor in operation on the sidewalk outside a church in Michigan at the Ann Arbor OHS Convention. >>   HeeHeeHee ... I guess I was off a couple of states! I recall the = recital following to be a real fun one. He played the Dubois Toccata! Whattahootriot!   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: New Business From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:13:12 -0500 (EST)   No wonder it sounds so good, if John Innes is organist. I especially like the mixtures (at least as they come through on the radio).   Peace to you all. Neil B.