PipeChat Digest #1727 - Wednesday, December 27, 2000
 
Re: USB Midi Interface Question
  by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au>
A REAL portative!
  by <p.wilson2@juno.com>
Re: A REAL portative!
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: A cynical question
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
RE: A REAL portative!
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: A REAL portative!
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
the position of the microphone
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
O Holy Night
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
Re: A cynical question
  by "Chris Attison" <cattison@optonline.net>
Re: A cynical question
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
RE: A cynical question
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
PCOrgan Update
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: A cynical question
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: A cynical question
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker, 1998) -- basically good forfirewood...
  by "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk>
Re: A cynical question
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
RE: A cynical question
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: A cynical question
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Cinema organs as concert organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: A cynical question
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Cinema organs as concert organs
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Re: Christmas Services on TV
  by "VINCENT S PARKS, III" <legacyhouston@pdq.net>
Re: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: was Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- reality check?
  by "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com>
STH Organ
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Fw: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good for  firewood...
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: USB Midi Interface Question From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:35:51 +1100 (EST)       On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Noel Jones, A.A.G.O. wrote:   > A member of Harpsichord_Roland@egroups has found a problem using a USB > interface from a computer for sequencing music. > > Has anyone else had a problem with note lengths being improperly > recorded using a USB interface rather than a Serial or Parallel Midi > interface on an organ or keyboard? Every other note or so is unnaturally > shortened, when playing back music recorded on the instrument as well as > downloaded files. There is no problem when a free-standing sequencer is > used, so the instrument is not at fault. > > The particular interface in use is the Roland UM-2. > > Your comments about USB would be appreciated.   I know only a little about MIDI messages and what the bandwidth and latency of USB is. (Just looked it up: 12MB/s bandwidth. That should be enough. )   A few questions however: 1. Are you chaining any other devices to the bus? 2. What is the speed of the notes (ie semi-quavers?) 3. Are faster notes chopped more than longer ones or is it regular? 4. Are any of the notes unnaturally lengthened (indicating that messages might be lagging)   Message schema: Program Change (Channel 1: Principal8) Note on (Channel 1: E4) Note off (Channel 1) Note on(Channel 1: D4) Note off (Channel 1)   I can't remember if the messages are time stamped.   MIDI is an asynchronous serial interface. The baud rate is 31.25 Kbaud (+/- 1%). There is 1 start bit, 8 data bits, and 1 stop bit (ie, 10 bits total), for a period of 320 microseconds per serial byte.   Since there are quite a few USB MIDI products its probably safe to say that USB is asynch. Pity, synchronisation problems would have fitted nicely with the observations.   Unfortunately thats all I can think of at the moment,   Mark.   > > > Noel Jones, AAGO    
(back) Subject: A REAL portative! From: <p.wilson2@juno.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 03:17:50 -0800   Go to this Web site to see the real deal!   http://www.kingarthurflour.com/cgibin/htmlos/0628.15.1932708517249472712   Does anyone know what happened to it?   Shalom, Preston p.wilson2@juno.com      
(back) Subject: Re: A REAL portative! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:32:15 -0500   Funny how the article refers to an air-calliope as a 'pipe organ' !   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 07:39:01 -0500   If there *is* a resurgance in concert hall organs, it's welcome news. However, your 'cynical' question is well-deserved to be asked: The Boston Pops has an organ, but how often is it included in any of their concerts? It would be nice to have at least *one* piece in any concert playlist for organ and orchestra. A mouth-watering facade may well be a 'concert room adornment' -rarely = used.   Rick      
(back) Subject: RE: A REAL portative! From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:40:06 -0500   From now on I'll only use King Arthur flour. Where do I get it!!   > -----Original Message----- > From: p.wilson2@juno.com [mailto:p.wilson2@juno.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:18 AM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: A REAL portative! > > > Go to this Web site to see the real deal! > > http://www.kingarthurflour.com/cgibin/htmlos/0628.15.193270851 > 7249472712 > > Does anyone know what happened to it? > > Shalom, > Preston > p.wilson2@juno.com > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: RE: A REAL portative! From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 27 Dec 2000 06:38:13 -0800   Oops, officer, I meant to step on the E, but my foot slipped and I hit the = F instead.      
(back) Subject: the position of the microphone From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:52:16 -0500   I have to add that the soloist was standing near the tenors and basses, so you'll hear them come in, but unfortunately, the altos and sopranos cannot be heard.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: O Holy Night From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 10:49:57 -0500   I recorded our Midnight mass, and it turned out great. If anyone's interested, I have the last part of the 2nd verse of O Holy Night as a = wave. It's zipped (424KB). My soloist hits the high note on every verse, in this case, a high A flat. If anyone would like it, please write to me off-list.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: "Chris Attison" <cattison@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:23:56 -0500   Yes, a very cynical question indeed. But a feeling that I share with you. Just as a concert organ is to a concert hall or a church, or a theatre = organ is to a theatre, and so on, it has just become a mere part of "good Martha Stewart decorating". All of these instruments used to, but still, have their place in soceity, and that is to make music. Organs and pianos = serve a purpose.   So if these instruments serve a purpose in soceity, then what is wrong? = The instruments or soceity? You guessed it, because you knew it all along. = It is soceity with its "new age" tunnelvisioned view that has created the = lack of interest in these wonderful instruments. To rekindle the spark of enthusasium, it is up to us, who appreciate things more to teach future generations some ethics. My dad got me interested in the theatre organ, = not by force, but by plopping me down in front of one and letting me play away at an early age when I asked if I could try to play one. My interest grew on its own from there.   I know I am going to get alot of people upset by saying this, but I will = say it anyways. It is the late 60's and early 70's that has produced the = masses of unappreciative lemmings today in my opinion. Just look at how the previous generation, now that they are in high business positions, are trying to relive their youth through a new generation with this retro-70's garbage and their neo-liberal propaganda. It was and still is the "me first" and "to hell with you" generation. Being only 26 myself, I can be the first to say that there is hope. There are many kids out there I am sure who are very interested in pipe organs, but do not feel comfortable about it, for fear of being labeled as an outcast. I used to be one of = them who did not share my enthusiasm of pipe organs with others out of this = fear. I sometimes also take a look at myself and ask the question, can I be an organ-aficionado and also like present day music at the same time? Well, = I can, and so can other people out there too.   So, we must feed an interest rather than deprive. That is the only way to save a dying art.           ----- Original Message ----- From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:10 AM Subject: A cynical question     > Received my American Organist magazine today (tues). On the front cover > was a picture of the Skinner organ (restored by Schantz) at the > Severance Hall in Cleveland, Ohio. > > The cover article mentioned the resurgence of pipe organs in concert > venues. > > Now my somewhat cynical question -- > Are pipe organs to concert halls what grand pianos have been to living > rooms? Nice, expensive adornments that are used infrequently? > > Ok, I'm done with that. > Neil B. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 27 Dec 2000 08:45:51 -0800   On Wed, 27 December 2000, "Chris Attison" wrote:     > It is the late 60's and early 70's that has produced ... the "me > first" and "to hell with you" generation.   You're off by a decade, Chris. It was the late 70's and early 80's. The = late 60's and early 70's produced something else, entirely.   Dick Meckstroth      
(back) Subject: RE: A cynical question From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:51:30 -0500   Yes the '80s was the "I" generation. '60s-'70s were peace, love, communicate, and smoke pot. We were egregious folk.   > -----Original Message----- > From: support@opensystemsorgans.com > [mailto:support@opensystemsorgans.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:46 AM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: A cynical question > > > On Wed, 27 December 2000, "Chris Attison" wrote: > > > > It is the late 60's and early 70's that has produced ... the "me > > first" and "to hell with you" generation. > > You're off by a decade, Chris. It was the late 70's and > early 80's. The late 60's and early 70's produced something > else, entirely. > > Dick Meckstroth > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: PCOrgan Update From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:17:57 EST     --part1_b1.4fb7d60.277b9a65_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Greetings and Happy New Year, PCOrglers.   I have redesigned the Swell Pedals and Tremulants for the PCOrgan project. = A great improvement, with Speed and Depth controls. Go to my homepage for details. There is a description and a real Building Blocks structure to download.   http://hometown.aol.com/mickberg/myhomepage/profile.html   Mick Berg.   --part1_b1.4fb7d60.277b9a65_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#ffffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>Greetings and Happy New Year, PCOrglers. <BR> <BR>I have redesigned the Swell Pedals and Tremulants for the PCOrgan = project. A <BR>great improvement, with Speed and Depth controls. Go to my = homepage for <BR>details. There is a description and a real Building = Blocks structure to <BR>download. <BR> <BR>http://hometown.aol.com/mickberg/myhomepage/profile.html <BR> <BR>Mick Berg.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b1.4fb7d60.277b9a65_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:31:41 -0500   Is that egregious or gregarious?   Alan   > From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:51:30 -0500 > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: RE: A cynical question > > We were egregious folk.    
(back) Subject: RE: A cynical question From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:33:28 -0500   Gregarious. I don't believe I did that. No. Wait. I do believe I did that. It's called old age. Yes, it should be gregarious. Thanks, Robert   > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Freed [mailto:afreed0904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:32 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: A cynical question > > > Is that egregious or gregarious? > > Alan > > > From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> > > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:51:30 -0500 > > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Subject: RE: A cynical question > > > > We were egregious folk. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker, 1998) -- basically good forfirewood... From: "Chris Baker" <chorale@clara.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:15:14 -0000   > Jane Parker Smith was quoted as saying, after playing a concert on the rather > large Wurlitzer in the concert hall at Worthing on the English South Coast, > that with the tremulants turned off, the sound was rather like that of a > Cavaille-Coll!!! > > So there! > > Malcolm Wechsler > www.mander-organs.com   At the few Wurlie concerts I have attended, I was left with the impression that the tremulant tabs were screwed down and, firmly glued into the 'on' position. A bit tedious after a while, and certainly places limits on the tonal potential of the instrument.................... and a few sopranos could learn a bit from Emma Kirkby, but then I mustn't stray off the topic .   Chris B    
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 27 Dec 2000 12:46:55 -0800   On Wed, 27 December 2000, Alan Freed wrote:   > > Is that egregious or gregarious?   Are you running for President or something?   Dick      
(back) Subject: RE: A cynical question From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 15:50:52 -0500   I may as well. Do you realize I can never make fun of that idiot again without someone throwing this matter up to my face. I'm ruined, yet again.   > -----Original Message----- > From: support@opensystemsorgans.com > [mailto:support@opensystemsorgans.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:47 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: A cynical question > > > On Wed, 27 December 2000, Alan Freed wrote: > > > > > Is that egregious or gregarious? > > Are you running for President or something? > > Dick > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:37:43 EST   In a message dated 12/27/00 4:46:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!, support@opensystemsorgans.com writes:   << You're off by a decade, Chris. It was the late 70's and early 80's. = The late 60's and early 70's produced something else, entirely. >>   Oh I don't think so. I lived through the 60s and all those dirty hippies, =   for all of their love jargon, were pretty self-centered. The 70s and = 80s just perfected the idea and used slicker marketing techniques. The 50s =   were much more enjoyable! In spite of the "Beaver"!!! ;-)   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Cinema organs as concert organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:00:20 EST   Dear List Members:   Chris Baker's comment about the ubiquitous tremulant in theatre organs = has merit. As a builder and voicer of concert and ecclesiastical organs, I continue to be amazed that GOOD theatre organs sound well both with and without tremulants, depending upon the repertoire. I have had the opportunity to play a decent amount of classical concert =   literature on the WurliTzer at Radio City Music Hall in the past, and its Kimball-designed specification was perfectly adaptable. I found that = music of the later French schools was well-served by both WurliTzer and Morton instruments, unless they were very limited in scope. As a tonal conservative, my difficulty with the theatrical idiom is NOT =   that they are unit organs; that is the nature of the beast. My greatest concern is with the wiring of off-unison, or mutation pitches, from the extension ranks. Aside from the fact that the laws of Physics = categorically prevent pure tuning, it eliminates the possibility of balancing these = color pitches for the most musical of effects. Heavily tremmed pipe organs DO tend to cover up variances in tuning and =   note-to-note tonal finishing, which is why one often exposes the sins of = poor work when the tremulants are not engaged. But there is nothing like a = really fine, well-maintained Compton, Kimball, WurliTzer, or Morton, played by = the right artist. Take it from a classical arch-conservative and secretive George Wright fan.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck Tonal Director Gluck New York Pipe Organ Conservators, Architects, and Builders 120 East 13th Street New York, New York 10003-5306  
(back) Subject: Re: A cynical question From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:18:48 -0500   > Is that egregious or gregarious? >   Depends on how much pot we'd been smoking at the time. ;) I'd say both. TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: Cinema organs as concert organs From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:25:56 -0500   Dear Tuba:   You didn't mention Barton in your post. Are they considered to be poor = examples of the theater organ genre? We have a III/23 Barton instrument near where = I live that I consider to be very well-voiced and fine sounding organ. I'd stick = its posthorn stop in my church in a moment's notice--if it were available--it = sounds an awfully lot like a smaller version of a certain 8' Trompette Militaire = donated to a certain big cathedral in London.   All the best,   Ben Baldus     > Dear List Members: > > Chris Baker's comment about the ubiquitous tremulant in theatre = organs has > merit. As a builder and voicer of concert and ecclesiastical organs, I > continue to be amazed that GOOD theatre organs sound well both with and > without tremulants, depending upon the repertoire. > I have had the opportunity to play a decent amount of classical = concert > literature on the WurliTzer at Radio City Music Hall in the past, and = its > Kimball-designed specification was perfectly adaptable. I found that = music > of the later French schools was well-served by both WurliTzer and Morton > instruments, unless they were very limited in scope. > As a tonal conservative, my difficulty with the theatrical idiom is = NOT > that they are unit organs; that is the nature of the beast. My = greatest > concern is with the wiring of off-unison, or mutation pitches, from the > extension ranks. Aside from the fact that the laws of Physics = categorically > prevent pure tuning, it eliminates the possibility of balancing these = color > pitches for the most musical of effects. > Heavily tremmed pipe organs DO tend to cover up variances in tuning = and > note-to-note tonal finishing, which is why one often exposes the sins of = poor > work when the tremulants are not engaged. But there is nothing like a = really > fine, well-maintained Compton, Kimball, WurliTzer, or Morton, played by = the > right artist. Take it from a classical arch-conservative and secretive > George Wright fan. > > Sebastian Matthaus Gluck > Tonal Director > Gluck New York > Pipe Organ Conservators, Architects, and Builders > 120 East 13th Street > New York, New York 10003-5306 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Services on TV From: "VINCENT S PARKS, III" <legacyhouston@pdq.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:41:12 -0600   The Episcopal retreat center is called Camp Allen, and has a large chapel. At over 1200 seats it is reportedly the largest Episcopal sanctuary in the diocese, and was built with large diocesan liturgies in mind.   The organ is a new Rodgers, and has had mixed reviews.   Vince Parks Houston      
(back) Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:59:13 EST   Dear Ben:   I didn't comment on Barton simply because I am not qualified to; I have neither played one, heard one, or inspected one. Wish I could have heard = the Chicago Stadium organ before its demise. Any other pipechatters have familiarity with Bartons?   SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: was Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- reality check? From: "Jackson R. Williams II" <jackwilliams_1999@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:06:20 -0800 (PST)   CC was mechanical action with barker level assists to make the action easier to play when coupled. You might want to read Fenner Douglas' book on Cavaille-Coll. It would help you understand these instruments better. --- "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > Cav-Coll - and I believe 90%+ of Casavants - are > electropneumatic. > I did list the 3 major non electronic classes of > organ design. > :) > > RTFM! > > MP > > > > CC was not tracker. > > > > > Fritts (Trackers), Cav-Coll, Casavant, Werli, > Morton, etc ... > > > all make logical sence when optimised in their > original settings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: STH Organ From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:35:58 +0800   I read recently two posts which made derogatory remarks about the Sydney Town Hall Organ. I forget the actual wording but it was to the effect that the sound was raucous and that there is a deficiency of strings. Well I believe both posters have it wrong. I have heard the same instrument played by a number of organists, and there is little wrong with the way it sounds. As for a deficiency of strings, I have let the stoplist speak for itself. It is at the end of this e-mail.   You will note that, unusual in an organ at that time, it has something approaching 40 ranks of mixtures with 9 ranks on the pedal, and that there is the choice of at least two 8' strings on each manual and the pedal, plus other strings at 4' pitch. It seems to me to be about the most complete stoplist for an organ of this era that I have ever seen.   Sorry about the long string of stop names but the use of TAB to make columns does not appear to work on this list. Bob Elms.   SYDNEY TQWN HALL ORGAN B. Wm Hill and Son 1890. Restored Roger Pogson 1982.   GREAT: Contra Bourdon 32 Double Open Diapason 16 Bourdon 16 Open diapason 8 (X4) Harmonic Flute 8 Viola 8 Spitz Flute 7 Gamba 8 Hohl Flute 8 Rohr Flute 8 Quint 6 Principal 4 Octave 4 Gemshorn 4 Harmonic Flute 4 12th 15th Mixture III Cymbel IV Sharp Mixture IV Furniture V Contra Posaune 16 Posaune 8 Trumpet 8 Clarion 4 SWELL: Double Open Diapason 16 Bourdon 16 Open Diapason 8 Hohl Flute 8 Viola da Gamba 8 Salicional 8 Dulciana 8 Vox Angelica 8 Octave 4 Rohr Flute 4 Harmonic Flute 4 Gemshorn 4 12th 15th Piccolo 1 Mixture IV Furniture V Trombone 16 Bassoon 16 Trumpet 8 Cornopean 8 Horn 8 Oboe 8 Clarion 4   CHOIR: Contra Dulciana 16 Open Diapason 8 Hohl Flute 8 Lieblich Gedackt 8 Flauto Traverso 8 Gamba 8 Dulciana 8 Octave Violino 4 Celestino 4 Lieblich Flote 12th 15th Dulcet 2 Dulciana Mixture III Bassoon 16 Oboe 8 Clarinet 8 Vox Humana 8 Octave Oboe 4   SOLO: Bourdon 16 Open Diapason 8 Violin Diapason 8 Flauto Traverso 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Viola 8 Octave 4 Harmonic Flute 4 Flauto Traverso 4 Harmonic Piccolo 2 Contra Fagotto 16 Harmonic Trumpet 8 Corno di Bassetto 8 Orchestral Oboe 8 Cor Anglais 8 Octave Oboe 4 Contra Tuba 16 Tuba 8 Tuba Clarion 4 Carillon Bells 2   ECHO: Lieblich Gedackt 8 Viola d'Amour 8 Unda Maris II Viol d'Amour 4 Flageolet 2 Glockenspiel IV Echo Dulciana Cornet IV Basset Horn 8   PEDAL: Double Open Diapason 1 32 Double Open Diapason 2 32 Contra Bourdon 32 Open Diapason 1 16 Open Diapason 2 16 Bourdon 16 Violone 16 Gamba 16 Dulciana 16 Quint 12 Octave 8 Prestant 8 Bass Flute 8 Violoncello 8 12th 15th Mixture IV Mixture III Mixture II Contra Trombone 64 Contra Posaune 32 Posaune 16 Trombone 16 Bassoon 16 Trumpet 8 Clarion 4   ACTION: Tubular pneumatic with Pneumatic stop action Couplers: Mechanical with Barker Lever assistance to Great.  
(back) Subject: Fw: Cinema organs (Barton) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:11:16 -0500   I played the very fine 4/24 Barton Grande at the Rialto Theatre in Joliet, Illinois in 1969- staff organist, actually. Wonderful sound for = large-scale pipework. Don't get me started on the Chicago Stadium Barton- I'll talk for hours: I LOVED that instrument!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <bbaldus@voyager.net>; <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton)     > Dear Ben: > > I didn't comment on Barton simply because I am not qualified to; I have > neither played one, heard one, or inspected one. Wish I could have = heard the > Chicago Stadium organ before its demise. Any other pipechatters have > familiarity with Bartons? > > SMG > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good for firewood... From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:57:47 -0800   At 09:11 PM 12/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good for firewood... > >Why?<snip>   Because it's yet ANOTHER screwed-up "Frisky=99", that's why!   WHEN will the bluenoses get a CLUE, and quit BUYING these tonal turkeys?   DeserTBoB