PipeChat Digest #1729 - Thursday, December 28, 2000
 
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) --
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) --
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) --
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
RE: STH Organ
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: A cynical question
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Trackers under the floor
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) --
  by "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good  forfirewood...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: STH Organ
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Joy To The World
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
RE: Joy To The World
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good  forfirewood.	..
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: Cinema organs (Barton)
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good  forfirewood. ..
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good  forfirewood.	 ..
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good  forfirewood.	 ..
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Concert Hall Organs ( was Benroya Hall)
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com>
Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings
  by "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org>
Re: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings
  by "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 07:39:07 -0500   In spite of all the furor about the pros and cons of tracker instruments, I'm still amazed at how the old orgelbaumeisters in Europe could have an instrument scattered around inside a cathredral -all of it playing from = one console.   Biggs' recording of the Four Organs at Leipzig (I believe) Cathredral = where he played all four- one in each corner of the building- from one console.   I'm told there are traces running under the floor to each instrument.   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 08:41:28 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 28-Dec-100 Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tr.. by "VEAGUE"@svs.net >I'm still amazed at how the old orgelbaumeisters in Europe could have an >instrument scattered around inside a cathredral -all of it playing from = one >console. > Biggs' recording of the Four Organs at Leipzig (I believe) Cathredral = where > he played all four- one in each corner of the building- from one = console.   Not Leipzig. Freiburg. And at least one of the four is EP - in the west end gallery*. And I would bet that the connections to the others are electric, i.e., electric pulldowns for the pallets.   *Those would be helluva long trackers - the length of the nave. Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:01:07 +0800   St George;s Cathedral, Perth West OZ has two tracker organs (new) one at each end of the building. Both can be played from a third electric console.   Bob E. S> > Not Leipzig. Freiburg. And at least one of the four is EP - in the west > end gallery*. And I would bet that the connections to the others are > electric, i.e., electric pulldowns for the pallets. > > *Those would be helluva long trackers - the length of the nave. > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh > >    
(back) Subject: RE: STH Organ From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:04:04 -0500   Did you actually type the stoplist yourself here!   > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Elms [mailto:elmsr@albanyis.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:36 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: STH Organ > > > I read recently two posts which made derogatory remarks about > the Sydney > Town Hall Organ. I forget the actual wording but it was to the effect > that the sound was raucous and that there is a deficiency of strings. > Well I believe both posters have it wrong. I have heard the same > instrument played by a number of organists, and there is little wrong > with the way it sounds. As for a deficiency of strings, I > have let the > stoplist speak for itself. It is at the end of this e-mail. > > You will note that, unusual in an organ at that time, it has > something > approaching 40 ranks of mixtures with 9 ranks on the pedal, and that > there is the choice of at least two 8' strings on each manual and the > pedal, plus other strings at 4' pitch. It seems to me to be about the > most complete stoplist for an organ of this era that I have ever seen. > > Sorry about the long string of stop names but the use of TAB to make > columns does not appear to work on this list. > Bob Elms. > > SYDNEY TQWN HALL ORGAN B. Wm Hill and Son 1890. > Restored Roger Pogson 1982. > > GREAT: > Contra Bourdon 32 > Double Open Diapason 16 > Bourdon 16 > Open diapason 8 (X4) > Harmonic Flute 8 > Viola 8 > Spitz Flute 7 > Gamba 8 > Hohl Flute 8 > Rohr Flute 8 > Quint 6 > Principal 4 > Octave 4 > Gemshorn 4 > Harmonic Flute 4 > 12th > 15th > Mixture III > Cymbel IV > Sharp Mixture IV > Furniture V > Contra Posaune 16 > Posaune 8 > Trumpet 8 > Clarion 4 > > SWELL: > Double Open Diapason 16 > Bourdon 16 > Open Diapason 8 > Hohl Flute 8 > Viola da Gamba 8 > Salicional 8 > Dulciana 8 > Vox Angelica 8 > Octave 4 > Rohr Flute 4 > Harmonic Flute 4 > Gemshorn 4 > 12th > 15th > Piccolo 1 > Mixture IV > Furniture V > Trombone 16 > Bassoon 16 > Trumpet 8 > Cornopean 8 > Horn 8 > Oboe 8 > Clarion 4 > > CHOIR: > Contra Dulciana 16 > Open Diapason 8 > Hohl Flute 8 > Lieblich Gedackt 8 > Flauto Traverso 8 > Gamba 8 > Dulciana 8 > Octave > Violino 4 > Celestino 4 > Lieblich Flote > 12th > 15th > Dulcet 2 > Dulciana Mixture III > Bassoon 16 > Oboe 8 > Clarinet 8 > Vox Humana 8 > Octave Oboe 4 > > SOLO: > Bourdon 16 > Open Diapason 8 > Violin Diapason 8 > Flauto Traverso 8 > Stopped Diapason 8 > Viola 8 > Octave 4 > Harmonic Flute 4 > Flauto Traverso 4 > Harmonic Piccolo 2 > Contra Fagotto 16 > Harmonic Trumpet 8 > Corno di Bassetto 8 > Orchestral Oboe 8 > Cor Anglais 8 > Octave Oboe 4 > Contra Tuba 16 > Tuba 8 > Tuba Clarion 4 > Carillon Bells 2 > > ECHO: > Lieblich Gedackt 8 > Viola d'Amour 8 > Unda Maris II > Viol d'Amour 4 > Flageolet 2 > Glockenspiel IV > Echo Dulciana Cornet IV > Basset Horn 8 > > PEDAL: > Double Open Diapason 1 32 > Double Open Diapason 2 32 > Contra Bourdon 32 > Open Diapason 1 16 > Open Diapason 2 16 > Bourdon 16 > Violone 16 > Gamba 16 > Dulciana 16 > Quint 12 > Octave 8 > Prestant 8 > Bass Flute 8 > Violoncello 8 > 12th > 15th > Mixture IV > Mixture III > Mixture II > Contra Trombone 64 > Contra Posaune 32 > Posaune 16 > Trombone 16 > Bassoon 16 > Trumpet 8 > Clarion 4 > > ACTION: Tubular pneumatic with Pneumatic stop action > Couplers: Mechanical with Barker Lever assistance to Great. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: RE: A cynical question From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:04:42 -0500   I wish.   > -----Original Message----- > From: TommyLee Whitlock [mailto:tommylee@whitlock.org] > Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 5:19 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: A cynical question > > > > Is that egregious or gregarious? > > > > Depends on how much pot we'd been smoking at the time. ;) > I'd say both. > TommyLee > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Trackers under the floor From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:45:09 EST   Nice thought, but no. The four Freiburg organs are mechanical action, but they have electric pulldown actions and can be played simultaneously from a single main = console via remote action. The inertial mass of all of the mechanism would prevent one from doing = that type of thing. HOWEVER, the Wolff in the Chancel at the cathedral in Indianapolis has trackers running under the floor for quite some distance. The organ is = split on either side of the chancel. A second organ, by Taylor and Boody, = speaks from a double gallery they constructed at the rear of the building.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton) From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:46:33 -0500     --------------B04AE3D8E0FD0FC9A6B70B66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am the person who was curious about how Bartons rated in the theatre organ hierarchy.   Ben Baldus   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 12/27/00 6:00:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > > > >> Any other pipechatters have >> familiarity with Bartons? >> > > Extremely. What would you like to know? > > Scott F   --------------B04AE3D8E0FD0FC9A6B70B66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I am the person who was curious about how Bartons rated in the theatre organ hierarchy. <p>Ben Baldus <p>ScottFop@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>In = a message dated 12/27/00 6:00:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>TubaMagna@aol.com = writes:</font></font> <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font = face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>Any other pipechatters have</font></font> <br><font face=3D"arial,helvetica"><font size=3D-1>familiarity with = Bartons?</font></font> <br>&nbsp;</blockquote>   <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Extremely.&nbsp; What would you like to know?</font></font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Scott = F</font></font></font></blockquote> </html>   --------------B04AE3D8E0FD0FC9A6B70B66--    
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- From: "Ben Baldus" <bbaldus@voyager.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:51:02 -0500   I don't believe so. All of the instruments are connected via parallel = electric action to a main console. Each remains separately playable by its own = action. There's lots of wire, but no trackers.   Ben   VEAGUE wrote:   > In spite of all the furor about the pros and cons of tracker = instruments, > I'm still amazed at how the old orgelbaumeisters in Europe could have an > instrument scattered around inside a cathredral -all of it playing from = one > console. > > Biggs' recording of the Four Organs at Leipzig (I believe) Cathredral = where > he played all four- one in each corner of the building- from one = console. > > I'm told there are traces running under the floor to each instrument. > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:16:08 EST   Gee, Bob, It's so nice to have your fresh perspectives back again.... all well balanced, thought-out and objective!   You should be receiving your FTD Welcome Back tracker bouquet soon!   Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: STH Organ From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:16:09 EST   Well, they certainly can't complain about the organ having no strings or celeste. On the Great, alone, the combination of Viola 8, Gamba 8 and Spitzflute 7 would send shivers up and down one's spine!!! ;-)   In a message dated 12/28/00 2:04:55 PM !!!First Boot!!!, RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org writes:   << > GREAT: > Contra Bourdon 32 > Double Open Diapason 16 > Bourdon 16 > Open diapason 8 (X4) > Harmonic Flute 8 > Viola 8 > Spitz Flute 7 > Gamba 8 > Hohl Flute 8 >>     Bruce ~ Cremona502@cs.com with the Baskerbeagles in the Beagle's Nest ~ ""Haruffaroo, Bohawow!" Visit Howling Acres at Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Joy To The World From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:39:35 -0500   I have here a recording of me playing "Joy To The World" as arranged by Diane Bish. If anyone wants to hear it, let me know. It's almost 2 minutes 18 seconds. I have it zipped, but it's still pretty big (722KB), so be forewarned. I'll send it to anyone who's interested.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: RE: Joy To The World From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:47:57 -0500   I like to listen to everything on the organ so if you don't mind, Thank = you. Robert   > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlo Pietroniro [mailto:organist@total.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:40 AM > To: Pipe Chat; Organ Chat; Church Organist > Subject: Joy To The World > > > I have here a recording of me playing "Joy To The World" as > arranged by > Diane Bish. If anyone wants to hear it, let me know. It's > almost 2 minutes > 18 seconds. I have it zipped, but it's still pretty big (722KB), so be > forewarned. I'll send it to anyone who's interested. > > Carlo > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood. .. From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:54:18 -0600   But what if the hall receives the most advanced acoustical treatment in planning and construction and the organ is fitted with a second, remote/moveable (electronic) console? Wouldn't that combination of = features provide the best of all possible worlds for the scores of organists and performing groups (and their audiences) who will utilize the room? I have = a specific future instrument in mind, and these were our considerations in choosing a large mechanical-action organ (IV/105-8).   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:10 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood...     At 05:49 PM 12/24/2000 -0800, you wrote: >You should know that I have four friends who are >members of the Dallas Symphony. They share my >opinion.<snip>   Let's face it...tracker action is NOT suitable for large, concert-destined =   instruments...period. It lacks the flexibility of placement of console, provides NONE of the highly-touted "articulation" its wags claim, is outrageously expensive to build, and is just plain OBSOLETE! The money wasted on such goofiness is better spend on a better specification and better acoustical treatments for both the hall and the organ.   End of discussion....NEXT!   DeserTBoB     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Cinema organs (Barton) From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:12:57 -0600   I only heard that Stadium Barton once, during a Blackhawks game in 1973, before my age of enlightenment as to the theatre organ tradition in Chicagoland. It was to that room what I imagine the ACCH Midmer-Losh is = to its.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: TubaMagna@aol.com [mailto:TubaMagna@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 4:59 PM To: bbaldus@voyager.net; pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Cinema organs (Barton)     Dear Ben:   I didn't comment on Barton simply because I am not qualified to; I have neither played one, heard one, or inspected one. Wish I could have heard the Chicago Stadium organ before its demise. Any other pipechatters have familiarity with Bartons?   SMG   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood. .. From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:47:39 EST   In a message dated 12/28/00 10:55:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:   << Wouldn't that combination of features provide the best of all possible worlds for the scores of organists and performing groups (and their audiences) >>   Short answer: No. This would be a hybrid (that's a nice word) that has many of the disadvantages of both systems. Why are people so willing to lower the = river instead of raising the bridge? Listen carefully to the aforementioned recording of Freiburg Cathedral and you can hear bouncing notes caused by = the inertia of tracker action fitted with electric pulldowns. And this from an =   artist that was widely known to do a lot of "touching up" in the recording =   studio.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood. .. From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:50:44 -0600   And up-to-date equipment wouldn't produce more satisfactory results? EPB/Freiburg Cathedral was more than a few years ago.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: TRACKELECT@cs.com [mailto:TRACKELECT@cs.com] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:48 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood. ..     In a message dated 12/28/00 10:55:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:   << Wouldn't that combination of features provide the best of all possible worlds for the scores of organists and performing groups (and their audiences) >>   Short answer: No. This would be a hybrid (that's a nice word) that has many of the disadvantages of both systems. Why are people so willing to lower the = river instead of raising the bridge? Listen carefully to the aforementioned recording of Freiburg Cathedral and you can hear bouncing notes caused by the inertia of tracker action fitted with electric pulldowns. And this from an =   artist that was widely known to do a lot of "touching up" in the recording =   studio.   Alan B   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Benaroya Hall organ (tracker) -- basically good forfirewood. .. From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:55:53 -0500   Okay, that does it. This caught my attention really quickly. I believe the recording was one of Biggs', if I recollect correctly? Now I'm curious = about the "a lot of 'touching up'" part since it was Biggs who inspired me to study and eventually love the organ. I was a kid when I joined the = Columbia record club and received his "Bach at Zwolle" album which I still have and on which I think the St. Anne's is the best I've ever heard (recorded at least). So since Biggs to me is a god what's about the touching up? E.g., what was touched up, lots o' mistakes that he made or recording technicalities oder was andere suche? Robert Colasacco       >And this from an artist that was widely known to do a lot of "touching = up" in > the recording > studio. > > Alan B > >  
(back) Subject: Concert Hall Organs ( was Benroya Hall) From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:02:43 -0500   Dear List,   Such an instrument must suit the needs of the solo performer on organ only =   literature as well as performing the organ part in the literature written for organ and orchestra. I have to believe that the key to a good installation is for the instrument to be located so that the orchestra can =   hear it , clearly. Thus it needs to be on a level as close as possible to that of the orchestra. If this criteria is valid, and I believe it is, the Boston, Calgary, Chicago and Naples, FLA. installations meet it. Another fine installation is the J.W. Walker instrument in Adelaide Town Hall , South Australia. Bruce Buchanan , now at Austin and Paul Fulcher now of Lively-Fulcher had important roles in this instrument. There may be others. Instruments set = up high do not. The Melbourne Arts Centre organ is such an instrument. Set much too high in the room. Latterly a high pressure division at about = stage level was suggested but apparently the suggestion fell on deaf ears. I guess it is hard for some people involved in the initial design and siting =   to admit they were wrong! An important factor is scaling and wind pressures. The instrument must be scaled generously enough on sufficient pressure so that it can hold its own with the orchestra. This, I am led to believe is the problem of the instrument at Roy Thomson Hall. Clearly a remote console at stage level assists the organist when performing with orchestra. This does not preclude the instrument from having mechanical action with magnet pulldowns for the remote console. The =   wind pressures that are needed almost make it necessary to have some form of pneumatic assistance to open the pallets, on some stops and or divisions. Fisk has this in a form developed by one of their people. Casavant in their large RLDS installation in Independence Mo. used a combination of mechanical and E.P.action. As was agreed on by the = builders who subscribe to another list, this presents no problem to a competent voicer. I was told by someone who has given a concert on the Rieger in a =   concert hall in Hong Kong that it has very heavy action when coupled and =   is literally a pain to play. Presumably it does not have any device to assist pallet opening. My view is that the design and siting of a concert hall organ is much, = much more than the action chosen and the postings on the Fisk's in Dallas and Seattle have tended to centre too much on action and not enough on the other components of the equation, as it were.   H.D    
(back) Subject: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:07:01 -0800   In his latter years Biggs suffered terribly from arthritis in his hands = ... hence the touch-ups in recordings.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: RE: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings From: "COLASACCO, ROBERT" <RCOLASACCO@popcouncil.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:23:04 -0500   Oooooooooooh. I was unaware of that. I too have pretty severe arthritis. I only just purchased (1 year ago) an organ for my apt. after 18 yrs of complete abstinence and found the arthritis to be a reeeeeeeeeeeal = problem. I find when it's really bad my fingers tend to do what they want as = opposed to what I want them to do. But at least I have an organ and am happy. Everyone who knows about the organ wants to hear me play. I tell them, "trust me, no you don't." Maybe, no, hopefully, I'll be able to overcome some of the problem and be "reciteable" again. At least somewhat? I do remember when he died, May 1977, I'll never forget the sad loss to me personally, tho' I never met the man. I also contacted Columbia records about 15 years ago to see if possibly Bach at Zwolle would ever be = released on CD but they told me most of Biggs' master tapes were either lost or thrown out and the few CDs of his that are available are the only = recordings left. Considering how many recordings he made what is left is just a fraction of the work he did. And quite frankly those later works on the Harvard Flentrop organ, I personally find the organ too harsh. Maybe it's just the recording. Anyway, thanks a again for the Biggs update. Sincerely, Robert   > -----Original Message----- > From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:07 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings > > > In his latter years Biggs suffered terribly from arthritis in > his hands ... > hence the touch-ups in recordings. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Re: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings From: "Robert Lind" <Robert_Lind@cch.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:31:25 -0600   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C070FC.62630560 Content-Type: text/plain   So what are you telling us--that Elizabeth Schwarzkopf came in and played the high notes?   ducking and running,   Bob Lind     From: quilisma@socal.rr.com on 12/28/2000 12:07 PM Please respond to PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>@SMTP@cchntmsd To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>@SMTP@cchntmsd cc:   Subject: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings   In his latter years Biggs suffered terribly from arthritis in his hands ... hence the touch-ups in recordings.   Cheers,   Bud     ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C070FC.62630560 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3DUS-ASCII"> <META NAME=3D3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D3D"MS Exchange Server version =3D 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>Re: Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <UL> <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">So what are you telling us--that =3D Elizabeth Schwarzkopf came in and played the high notes?</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">ducking and running,</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">Bob Lind</FONT> </P> <BR>   <P><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">From:&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D quilisma@socal.rr.com on 12/28/2000 12:07 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">Please respond to = =3D PipeChat &lt;pipechat@pipechat.org&gt;@SMTP@cchntmsd</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 =3D FACE=3D3D"Helv">To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D3D2 =3D FACE=3D3D"Helv">PipeChat =3D &lt;pipechat@pipechat.org&gt;@SMTP@cchntmsd</FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 =3D FACE=3D3D"Helv">cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =3D COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv"> </FONT> </P>   <P><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#800080" SIZE=3D3D2 =3D FACE=3D3D"Helv">Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT> = =3D <FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Helv">Touch-ups on Biggs' recordings</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Arial">In his latter years Biggs suffered = =3D terribly from arthritis in his hands ...</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Arial">hence the touch-ups in =3D recordings.</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Arial">Cheers,</FONT> </P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FACE=3D3D"Arial">Bud</FONT> </P> </UL> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C070FC.62630560--