PipeChat Digest #1734 - Saturday, December 30, 2000
 
the bottom line and I think I'll have a DRINK (grin)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: the bottom line
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Tracker Reliability
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: The Same Old Flame War
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: ALL READ [Was Re: The Same Old Flame War]
  by "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au>
Re: OSKALED CZ Sound? Searching infos...
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?
  by "Michael" <scapolo@sympatico.ca>
Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?
  by "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net>
New Person Here...
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Re:MUST SELL 2, 3manual analog Theater organs
  by <Musmachns@aol.com>
Re: New Person Here...
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?
  by "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net>
RE: New Person Here...
  by "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net>
Sydney Opera House Organ (long)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Randy's Post
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
Re: New Person Here...
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: New Person Here...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>
"Oskalyd." CZ Sound? Searching infos...
  by "mhev.wa" <mhev.wa@netzero.net>
Victor Borge Vid WWW
  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>
Re: Benaroya Hall organ [Seattle, USA] (tracker, 1998) --  basica
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: the bottom line
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 

(back) Subject: the bottom line and I think I'll have a DRINK (grin) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 17:50:53 -0800   Thank you, everyone, for your comments and suggestions.   I omitted one very vital detail which I thought I'd talked about previously: this is an INTERIM building ... the interim church will eventually be the parish hall. I was lucky in that there was 1000 sq. ft. of otherwise wasted space above the kitchens, temporary parish hall, restrooms, etc., so I DO have a spacious organ/choir loft.   The Powers That Are have only very recently come round to admitting that "interim" will be for about 20 years, until the loan on the first phase is paid off. It's taking every DIME they can raise to get into this building, which has been delayed for two years by the byzantine building regulations in Orange County, CA ... we've spent something on the order of $250K (which would have bought a VERY nice organ) on plans and permit revisions without turning the first shovel-full of dirt. So they've only very recently come to think of doing ANYTHING about the organ. Space IS provided for a modest pipe organ ... an open shelf above and behind the choir in the loft.   The church will seat about 150 on paper ... there are spacious aisles to bring that up to 200, if necessary, plus some additional congregational seating in the choir loft. The acoustics should be decent ... polished concrete floor, triple drywall walls and ceilings coated with acoustical sealant, no carpet, 38' roof at the peak. I think it's about 125 cu. ft. per seat, which is on the low side, but adequate. "Red" Wetherill is the consultant.   Believe me, I have HAUNTED Organ Clearing House, Church Organ Trader, and the TO pipe organ classifieds for three years. One of the problems is that we're in So Cal, and most of the available organs are in the Midwest or East ... that increases shipping costs considerably.   I have led an organ transplant before ... a wonderful Koehnken and Grimm tracker for The Immaculata in Cincinnati. But that was from one church across the hill to another church on the same hill, and I was thirty years younger. I use a walker most of the time now, and there simply aren't volunteers to be had in the congregation ... we joke that the choir collectively has as many artificial spare parts as they do real ones, and that's a microcosm of the congregation.   I have looked at used Moller, Wicks, Kimball and Kilgen "box organs" of 4-10 ranks ... frankly, I don't see them as a big improvement over what we have now, and without volunteers to assist I couldn't bring one in at anything CLOSE to the prices people are quoting. Yes, we did the K & G for basically the cost of releathering the reservoir and feeders and taking it down and setting it up ... under $5K ... all the scut-work WAS done by volunteers, including refinishing the case ... it was in otherwise pristine condition ... but this just isn't that kind of situation. I CAN'T do it; the parishioners can't/won't do it; we're gonna have to PAY to HAVE it done.   The bid for the custom electronic WAS overblown ... they came back with double and triple audio at both ends of the church, which of course we don't need. And they had done away with some of the Pedal borrows and extensions that I'd asked for, supposedly because once you're into an additional computer "cage", you might as well use all of it.   I won't consider a combo instrument, with the possible exception of bottom octaves of things and soft celestes or soft solo reeds. My particular prejudice (grin) ...   So ... that's where things stand.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: the bottom line From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:50:03 -0600   Good grief! I don't know where you searched, but I can assure you that = there are many builders building and rebuilding fine pipe organs for almost half = what you quoted! Surely you know that pipe organ prices are partially determined = by the prestige and way of working of a given builder at a specific time. = Thankfully, prestige does not determine quality. I think you will also find that more = money is   available for a pipe organ than a loudspeaker substitute, which is = regarded as temporary. Email or call privately if you want more specific suggestions. Roy Redman   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > I have spent three years researching what to do for an organ for St. = Matthew's > new building ... I received the following tenders: > > New custom straight pipe organ (tracker or electro-magnetic pulldowns to = slider > chests), 20 ranks over two manuals and pedals: $425K-$500K > > New custom unit pipe organ, 10 ranks over two manuals and pedals: $227K > > New custom completely "straight" two-manual electronic organ: $200K (!) > > Used electric-action pipe organ, approx. 30 ranks over three manuals and > pedals, releathered, solid-stated, installed: $100K-$175K > > New stock two or three-manual electronic organ: $50K-$100K > > Used four-manual stock analog electronic organ: $40K > > The used pipe organ would be the most organ for the money, obviously, = but given > that the present two-slice Hammond/Suzuki cost $11K, they can't IMAGINE > spending that kind of money for an organ. > > We could probably do a transplanted tracker for less money, but given = our > service and the fact that I'm organist/choirmaster, an attached keydesk = simply > isn't practical for us without lots of mirrors, closed-circuit TV, etc = ... > been/there, done/that, it's a HUGE nuisance. I have to FACE my choir. > > The electronics' prices are somewhat higher because we require an = antiphonal in > the chancel for the ritual choir ... if we got a pipe organ, there would > probably have to be a few digital "ranks" down front for the same = purpose. > > So what's going to happen? The used analog four-manual electronic, of = course > ... if ANYTHING ... unless an "angel" appears with a check for $500K. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Reliability From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:05:28 -0500   Glad to hear the old tracker out-did the nay-sayers and pooh-poohers. Internal strife in a church? Nay.......say it ain't so! <G>   I service a small one-manual Koehnken & Grimm that is up in the loft, and the old workhorse keeps pluggin' away!   Rick      
(back) Subject: Fw: The Same Old Flame War From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:07:54 -0500   I agree. Quit the nit-picking and keep the plug-in guy at bay.   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: Re: The Same Old Flame War     > In a message dated 12/29/00 8:19:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, > admin@pipechat.org writes: > > << I > think we should rejoice in these installations no matter what kind of > action they use. >> > > It has always dumfounded me how people get so hot under the collar over > discussions of pipe organ actions while the electronic salesmen are selling > "organs" hand over fist, tearing out pipes and putting speakers behind = the > facades. > > Alan B > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: ALL READ [Was Re: The Same Old Flame War] From: "Mark Hummel" <mhummel@pcug.org.au> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:19:10 +1100 (EST)       On Fri, 29 Dec 2000, Administrator wrote:   > Folks > > But this is turning into the same old flame-war about the > choice of action in particular instruments. This is a war that will > never be won by one side or the other.   # List games   Joshua: Falken's Maze checkers chess Global Chemical Warfare .. .. Global Thermonuclear War Tracker vs E-P Action   # Tracker vs E-P Action   Joshua: How about a nice game of chess?   # Maybe later. Lets play Tracker vs E-P Action   .... approx 16 hours later in the depths of the pipechat servers..   Joshua: A curious game, professor. The only winning move is not to play...   ----- ;)   Sorry, couldn't resist!   Mark.    
(back) Subject: Re: OSKALED CZ Sound? Searching infos... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:23:09 -0500   A WurliTzer in a THEATRE in RUSSIA ??? Oyacarumba !!   Rick      
(back) Subject: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere? From: "Michael" <scapolo@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:06:14 -0500   I was asked to play a service on a three-manual Allen digital organ. = Having played only pipe organs for the past 25 years, I was rather surprised how meek this electronic sounded. My point here is not to criticise these instruments, rather to ask a question or two about them.   1 - I found each of the 60 something stops to speak rather quietly. In fact, I had to use about 50 of them all coupled together to get a rousing enough sound for the last verse of my recessional hymn. Question: Is = there a master control inside the console that would allow me to get a decent volume from just the Great plenum as I would get on a real pipe organ? I don't think the problem is the size or amplification of the speakers as there was no distortion when I used 50 stops together.   2 - I depressed the Reverb tab and dialed the reverb knob to maximum, but = I got next to no reverb. Is there an adjustment for this "under the hood"?   Michael    
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere? From: "Jim" <bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:57:26 -0600   Yes Michael there is a master control. Depending upon the model, there = are at least 3 amps under the hood that can be turned up to a deafening = volume. I have cranked ours up all the way, and all I could say was ouch.   Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <scapolo@sympatico.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?     > I was asked to play a service on a three-manual Allen digital organ. Having > played only pipe organs for the past 25 years, I was rather surprised = how > meek this electronic sounded. My point here is not to criticise these > instruments, rather to ask a question or two about them. > > 1 - I found each of the 60 something stops to speak rather quietly. In > fact, I had to use about 50 of them all coupled together to get a = rousing > enough sound for the last verse of my recessional hymn. Question: Is there > a master control inside the console that would allow me to get a decent > volume from just the Great plenum as I would get on a real pipe organ? = I > don't think the problem is the size or amplification of the speakers as > there was no distortion when I used 50 stops together. > > 2 - I depressed the Reverb tab and dialed the reverb knob to maximum, = but I > got next to no reverb. Is there an adjustment for this "under the = hood"? > > Michael > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: New Person Here... From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:15:48 -0500   Hi,   I'm Mike. I just joined the list last night, and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm the Organist/Choir Director at the John Heckewelder Moravian Church in Gnadenhutten, OH. I have my music Degree from Ohio Wesleyan University, where I studied organ with Robert Griffith.   Looking forward to following the list traffic...   Best wishes, Mike        
(back) Subject: Re:MUST SELL 2, 3manual analog Theater organs From: <Musmachns@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:16:17 EST     --part1_30.e821535.277ebb91_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have 2, 3 manual theater organs which I need to sell.   One is a great Rodgers Trio 321 in perfect working order. Antique white and gold with 2 matching speaker cabinets.   Second is an Allen Theater Deluxe with moving tabs. 3 main speaker cabinets, one traps cabinet, and one spare gyro cabinet for =   parts. Has a few dead notes, but was playing.   Email for pictures and stoplists.     --part1_30.e821535.277ebb91_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000ff" SIZE=3D3 = FACE=3D"Schoolbook" LANG=3D"0">I have 2, 3 manual theater organs which I = need to sell. <BR> <BR>One is a great Rodgers Trio 321 in perfect working order. <BR>Antique white and gold with 2 matching speaker cabinets. <BR> <BR>Second is an Allen Theater Deluxe &nbsp;with moving tabs. <BR>3 main speaker cabinets, one traps cabinet, and one spare gyro cabinet = for <BR>parts. Has a few dead notes, but was playing. <BR> <BR>Email for pictures and stoplists. <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_30.e821535.277ebb91_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: New Person Here... From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:18:44 -0600   Mike Swaldo wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm Mike. I just joined the list last night, and thought I'd introduce > myself. I'm the Organist/Choir Director at the John Heckewelder = Moravian > Church in Gnadenhutten, OH. I have my music Degree from Ohio Wesleyan > University, where I studied organ with Robert Griffith. > > Looking forward to following the list traffic...   Welcome to the list. I came into contact with quite a few Moravian Churches when I lived in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and found they generally had some very nice music and organs (especially the old Tannenbergs). What kind of organ does your church have?   John Speller St. Louis, Mo.  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere? From: "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:19:09 -0500   Hello Michael,   I argree with Jim. Have played on Allens for a long time. Much of the controls depend on the model and vintage of the organ. The 'Renessance' series are one of their most recent and they have = numerous controls for just about every stop and effect.   From the way you described the reverb, I don't recall which model has the reverb dial however I would suspect it's an older model. (probably pre-ADC vintage). The older models don't have anywhere near as many controls available for volume, etc. In fact, on some of their older digital models (circa 1970's), each division had two volume controls (on separate amps). One for the flue's and the other for everything else.   Since most (if not all) of these controls are internal, you might want to get the local Allen rep to tweek it for you.   Ed   ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim <bald1@prodigy.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere?     > Yes Michael there is a master control. Depending upon the model, there are > at least 3 amps under the hood that can be turned up to a deafening volume. > I have cranked ours up all the way, and all I could say was ouch. > > Jim H > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael" <scapolo@sympatico.ca> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 9:06 PM > Subject: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere? > > > > I was asked to play a service on a three-manual Allen digital organ. > Having > > played only pipe organs for the past 25 years, I was rather surprised how > > meek this electronic sounded. My point here is not to criticise these > > instruments, rather to ask a question or two about them. > > > > 1 - I found each of the 60 something stops to speak rather quietly. = In > > fact, I had to use about 50 of them all coupled together to get a rousing > > enough sound for the last verse of my recessional hymn. Question: Is > there > > a master control inside the console that would allow me to get a = decent > > volume from just the Great plenum as I would get on a real pipe organ? I > > don't think the problem is the size or amplification of the speakers = as > > there was no distortion when I used 50 stops together. > > > > 2 - I depressed the Reverb tab and dialed the reverb knob to maximum, but > I > > got next to no reverb. Is there an adjustment for this "under the hood"? > > > > Michael > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: New Person Here... From: "Mike Swaldo" <mswal@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:28:36 -0500   John,   >I lived in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and found they generally had some = very nice music and >organs (especially the old Tannenbergs).   Ah, yes... David Tannenberg. There's supposwed to be a new book out = about him either now, or very soon.   >What kind of organ does your church have?   We have a small Moeller. It was originally installed in 1927, but was re-built in 1973. There are a few things I would like to see done with it, but, really, it's not too bad. I've played much worse.   Best wishes, Mike    
(back) Subject: Sydney Opera House Organ (long) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:49:16 +0800   In response to requests here is the stoplist of the mechanical action organ in the Sydney Opera House:   SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE ORGAN Completed 1979. Builder: Ronald Sharp 5 manuals 127 sp. Stops, 171 draw knobs and rocking tablets, 28 couplers. Mechanical key action, el.pn. Stop action, mechanical couplers except to Hauptwerk which are electric. Parallel electric action to keys for playback facility. This is reputed to be the largest tracker organ in the world today. PEDAL: Prinzipal 32 Holzprinzipal 16 Oktav 16 Violonbass 16 Subbass 16 Rohr quint 10+ Oktav 8 Violon 8 Gedackt 8 Gross terz 6 2/5 Quint 5 1/3 Oktav 4 Blockflote 4 Terz 3 1/5 Quint 2 2/3 Septime 2 2/7 Nachthorn 2 Bauernflote 1 Rauchspfeife III Mixtur V Scharff VII Poasune 32 Posaune 16 Fagott 16 Trompete 8 Dulzian 8 Trompete 8 Dulzian 8 Trompete 4 Singend Kornett 2 Glocken 4+2 Tremulant   RUCKPOSITIV Prinzipal 8 Fiffaro 8 Gedackt 8 Quintadena 8 Oktav 4 Nachthorn Rohrflote Nasat 2+ Oktav 2 Quint 1 1/3 Sifflote 1 1/3 Oktav 1 Quint 2/3 Oktav =BD Quint 1/3 Oktav 1/4 Quint 1/6 Oktave 1/8 Sesquialtera II Rankett 16 Trompete 8 Dulzian 8 Glocken 1 Tremulant   HAUPTWERK Prinzipal 16 Gedackt 16 Oktav 8 Gamba 8 Querflote 8 Holzflote 8 Rohrflote 8 Quint 5 1/3 Grossnasat 5 1/3 Oktav 4 Gamba 4 Grossterz 3 1/5 Quint 2 2/3 Nasat 2 2/3 Oktav 2 Hohlflote 3 Terz 1 3/5 Piffaro IV-VI Mixtur VI Scharff V Zimbel IV Kornett VI Trompete 16 Trompete 8 Trompete 4 Glocken 2   OBERWERK Holzprinzipal 16 Quintaton 16 Prinzipal 8 Salizional 8 Schwebung 8 Spillflote 8 Oktave 4 Salizional 4 Waldflote 4 Querflote 2 Rauchspfeife II Terzian II Mixtur V-VII Scharff IV Terz Zimbel III Septimen Kornett V Kopftrompete 16 Trompete 8 Oboe 8 Vox Humana 8 Schalmei 4 Tremulant   BRUSTWERK Gemshorn 8 Unda Maris 8 Offenflote 8 Gedackt 8 Prinzipal 8 Quintadena 4 Nasat 2 2/3 Flachflote 2 Terz 1 3/5 Quint 1 1/3 Septime 1 1/7 Schwiegel 1 None 8/9 Glockleinton II Scharff II Zimbel I Musette 16 Krummhorn 8 Regal 8 Trompetenregal 4 Glocken =BD   KRONWERK Kornett VIII - XII Trompete 16 Feld trompete 8 Vox Humana 8 Hell trompete 4 Ophecleide (sic) 8 Glocken 2 Tremulant   ANCILLARIES Glocken reiterate Kuckuck Nachtigall Zymbelstern Tympanon (soft bass drum roll)   SUMMARY OF STOPS Total 127 Ranks 205 Auto playback electric 9 blowers 3 enclosed sections - swell, brustwerk, oberwerk.     I don't know how much use is made of this organ. I have only heard it once and that on a recording of the opening recital, and it does not seem to feature much, if at all, on radio or TV programmes here. I suspect that the STH instrument is preferred by most recitalists but I am not certain of this. Just an impression from 2500 miles away.   I heard Mr Sharp claim that he followed no particular school of organ building. However this organ and the Perth Concert Hall organs would lead me to take that with a large pinch of sodium chloride. The voicing and the use of only German stop names give the opposite impression as also does the sound of these instruments. They are classically voiced without any doubt.   The recording of the inaugural recital, predominantly romantic music on the disk I have (Liszt, duBois, Schumann and Mozart), showed that the organ has brilliant choruses and does not lack impact. However it certainly has not the warmth and colour of the STH instrument, which is of the same size. I suspect also from the recording that the pedal has not sufficient weight to match the manuals. Certainly the one 32 flue and one 32 reed does not match STH =91s four 32s with a 64' reed to back that up!. And then the four 16' pedal flues and two 16' reeds do not compare with STH 6 16 flues and 3 reeds. I have heard that the organ has been revoiced since its opening but I have not heard it since. Possibly one of our Sydney posters may be able to make a more accurate comment than I can. =20   Bob Elms    
(back) Subject: Randy's Post From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 23:54:57 EST   Randy Says : I know nobody will read this anyway so I am going to shut up!!   Van says : Nope Randy, you are wrong.... I bet there are a lot of us out there who = reads all these posts. So, I for one, say..... keep on sending posts. I want to hear what people have to say. That is what makes the list interesting.   Van Vanpool, organist FUMC Bowie,Texas  
(back) Subject: Re: New Person Here... From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:17:21 -0500 (EST)   Welcome, Mike. I never knew that town in Ohio existed. Can u give us some particulars on where it is? Your organ? etc?   Neil B. Barnegat, NJ (awaiting the BIG ONE) First United Meth Church, Toms River, NJ    
(back) Subject: Re: New Person Here... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 00:19:10 -0500   Welcome to Pipe Chat Mike!!!   Carlo    
(back) Subject: "Oskalyd." CZ Sound? Searching infos... From: "mhev.wa" <mhev.wa@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:45:47 -0800   I believe the proper spelling of the name is "Oskalyd."   However, no WurliTzers exist in the CIS or RUS to the best of my = knowledge.     > A WurliTzer in a THEATRE in RUSSIA ??? Oyacarumba !!                                                                                 Shop Safely Online Without a Credit Card http://www.rocketcash.com  
(back) Subject: Victor Borge Vid WWW From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 21:26:43 -0800 (PST)     Victor Borge Vid WWW http://www.abc.net.au/news/2000/12/24/video/20001224pm-borge.ram                                  
(back) Subject: Re: Benaroya Hall organ [Seattle, USA] (tracker, 1998) -- basica From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:24:22 -0800   At 02:36 AM 12/29/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > Basically this organ was commissioned by the > > cultural ruling class<snip>   As a Seattle friend that has reviewed this organ for me calls it, "Microsoft Money"! PIE BILL GATES!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: the bottom line From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:29:09 -0800   At 09:47 AM 12/29/2000 -0800, you wrote: >So what's going to happen? The used analog four-manual electronic, of >course<snip>   Seeings how this'll go into "St. Matt-s-in-the-Semitrailer", I'd by happy with that! You COULD do worse, yanno...like...keep that gussied-up "Super = B"!   <snidely snickering>   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Allen Digital Organs - Are there master controls somewhere? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:47:25 -0800   At 09:57 PM 12/29/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Yes Michael there is a master control. Depending upon the model, there = are >at least 3 amps under the hood that can be turned up to a deafening = volume. >I have cranked ours up all the way, and all I could say was ouch.<snip>   ....and people wonder why electronics "can't" sound like "organs"!   As Hope-Jones' critics found out early in the unification ballgame, sheer sound pressure level is NO subsitute for a real ensemble! Later digitorgs =   have tackled this problem more-or-less successfully, and usually, the more =   channels, the better. But that's not important now....   DeserTBoB