PipeChat Digest #1645 - Saturday, November 4, 2000

 

Telemarketers - Was: How do you command a processor?

  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>

OT: Re: Telemarketers

  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>

Nicking in Wooden Pipes

  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>

Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by <ScottFop@aol.com>

Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by <JKVDP@aol.com>

Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes - reply

  by <RMaryman@aol.com>

Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by <ScottFop@aol.com>

Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: OT: Re: Telemarketers

  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>

Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals

  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>

Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes

  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>

Goodbye Song?

  by "Jerry Ripley" <jaripley@lan2000.net>

Re: Goodbye Song?

  by "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com>

Re: Goodbye Song?

  by "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com>

Re: OT: Re: Telemarketers

  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>

 


(back) Subject: Telemarketers - Was: How do you command a processor? From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:45:50 EST   In a message dated 11/3/00 11:44:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlspeller@stlnet.com writes:   << I'm very pleased to hear that. Whenever anyone calls me up on the phone and tells me to hold for an important message, I always hang up. Good for you! >> Few people hate telemarketers more than I. Because of this I have learned some of their tactics and a bit about the laws that regulate their = activities.   First of all, if you do not hold for that important message they will call =   back. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but by hanging up you have come = up on their list as a non connection and the machine that dials simply = recycles your number.   Second of all, the computer that does the dialing also listens to the way that you answer the phone. If you say anything except "hello" it automatically hangs up. This is done to avoid doing their sales pitch to businesses and people who speak indecipherable languages. I answer my = phones "Good afternoon (morning evening) Binger Organ" and I get a lot of hang = ups. This if preferable to listening to some marginally literate, otherwise unemployable, high school drop out try to read a sales pitch script for something that I don't want.   Third of all, the right thing to do is interrupt them while they are = reading the script by saying "Please put my number on your do not call list, I am = not interested." Do not say I am not interested, put me on your do not call = list" because they will hang up the nanosecond that they hear "I am not = interested" and will call back. By law they must maintain a "Do not call list" and are =   subject to fine if they call someone who has asked to be put on it.   Fourth of all, NEVER EVER buy anything from a telemarketer! You will be = put on a "Positive response list" and will be inundated with calls from every telemarketer in the known universe.   Fifth of all and finally (at last!), Arkansas has made telemarketing = illegal. We must all push our legislators to follow suit. There is no place for telemarketers in the modern world. With the Internet I can find virtually = any goods or services imaginable. Even shut ins with no friends who just want someone to talk to can now fulfill that need with the net. If Arkansas can do it why can't we?!!!   Alan B  
(back) Subject: OT: Re: Telemarketers From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 11:40:21 -0600   At 11/4/00 11:45 AM, Alan wrote: <snip> >Fifth of all and finally (at last!), Arkansas has made telemarketing = illegal. >We must all push our legislators to follow suit. There is no place for >telemarketers in the modern world. With the Internet I can find virtually = any >goods or services imaginable. Even shut ins with no friends who just want =   >someone to talk to can now fulfill that need with the net. >If Arkansas can do it why can't we?!!!   We (Arkansans) did...??? When did we do this? (and/or when does the law take effect...?)   Don't get me wrong, Alan -- I certainly hope you are correct here -- but I've noticed no lack of telemarketing calls either to my home or work = phone...   One more thing that seems to help avoid the barrage of junk calls -- "caller ID/anonymous call blocker" service from the phone Co. Seems that the marketing companies never have a number to display on "my" end...so they get the generic machine message at best.   Tim          
(back) Subject: Nicking in Wooden Pipes From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:27:49 EST   I have noticed on the Moller I play, that all the flutes (stopped AND = open) were all originally knicked. However, since possibly the "revoicing" of = the organ, they have all been filled in with a type of putty or something.   #1, What does this do the tonality? and #2, is there any hope for cleaning the knicks out?   Jason _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.    
(back) Subject: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:32:45 EST     --part1_96.bb8d8e0.2735be5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   In a message dated 11/4/00 2:15:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, = clester@137.com=3D =3D20 writes:     > Just last week, I played for a choral program as visiting organist. The > organ had no expression, no tremulants, no celestes, no crescendo pedal, > and no combination action. It was, of course, tracker. >=3D20 > A fine instrument, to be sure; but in my opinion quite unsuited for its > venue and use-- a church organ serving a culturally and musically > diverse congregation. Thomas A. Dorsey (a gorgeous arrangement of "Take > My Hand, Precious Lord") was not happy upon it. >=3D20 > I felt, well, naked. (Not a pretty sight by any accounting.) >=3D20 > I made a polite but honest comment to the pastor indicating my opinion > about the instrument when he asked for it. He snorted and said, "And > you're darn lucky there's electric wind... the organist [at the time, > having since left for purer pastures] wanted us to get a hand-pumped > organ!" =3D20     Very interesting indeed. I wish I had the $$$ to bring in a tracker with = no=3D =3D20 expression, no pistons and no crescendo and sit it RIGHT next to the = Kilgen=3D20 console. Then I would like to invite organists who know how to handle = both=3D20 to play them back to back and decide which they like better. OK purists- = no=3D t=3D20 only can the Kilgen play preludes and fugues and trio sonatas, it of = course=3D20 can do anything romantic or otherwise. WHY do people put instruments like that into CHURCHES????????? I never = have=3D20 and never will understand that thinking (or lack thereof). =3D20   WHY impose an inflexible, largely "antique" instrument on a congregation = wit=3D h=3D20 choirs, soloists, cantors and Liturgy???? In a museum- GREAT! in a = college=3D =3D20 or conservatory- GREAT! In a recital hall (providing there is already a = goo=3D d=3D20 "all around" instrument capable of playing romantic AND baroque = repertoire=3D20 SOMEWHERE in the vicinity) ok.   And the organist wanted a HAND PUMPED instrument? For GOD'S sake! = How=3D20 ridiculous!   SCOTT F. FOPPIANO, Principal Organist and Director of Music THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI (Geo. Kilgen & Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) =3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat dicens,     --part1_96.bb8d8e0.2735be5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en   <HTML><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000a0" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans=3D MS" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 11/4/00 2:15:16 AM Eastern Standard = Time,=3D clester@137.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Just last week, I played = fo=3D r a choral program as visiting organist. The <BR>organ had no expression, no tremulants, no celestes, no crescendo = pedal, <BR>and no combination action. It was, of course, tracker. <BR> <BR>A fine instrument, to be sure; but in my opinion quite unsuited for = its <BR>venue and use-- a church organ serving a culturally and musically <BR>diverse congregation. Thomas A. Dorsey (a gorgeous arrangement of = "Take <BR>My Hand, Precious Lord") was not happy upon it. <BR> <BR>I felt, well, naked. (Not a pretty sight by any accounting.) <BR> <BR>I made a polite but honest comment to the pastor indicating my opinion <BR>about the instrument when he asked for it. He snorted and said, "And <BR>you're darn lucky there's electric wind... the organist [at the time, <BR>having since left for purer pastures] wanted us to get a hand-pumped <BR>organ!" &nbsp;I just about fell out.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR> <BR>Very interesting indeed. &nbsp;I wish I had the $$$ to bring in a = tracke=3D r with no <BR>expression, no pistons and no crescendo and sit it RIGHT = next=3D20=3D to the Kilgen <BR>console. &nbsp;Then I would like to invite organists who = k=3D now how to handle both <BR>to play them back to back and decide which they = l=3D ike better. &nbsp;OK purists- not <BR>only can the Kilgen play preludes = and=3D20=3D fugues and trio sonatas, it of course <BR>can do anything romantic or = otherw=3D ise. <BR>WHY do people put instruments like that into CHURCHES????????? I never = h=3D ave <BR>and never will understand that thinking (or lack thereof). &nbsp; <BR> <BR>WHY impose an inflexible, largely "antique" instrument on a = congregation=3D with <BR>choirs, soloists, cantors and Liturgy???? &nbsp;In a museum- = GREAT=3D ! &nbsp;in a college <BR>or conservatory- GREAT! &nbsp;In a recital hall = (pr=3D oviding there is already a good <BR>"all around" instrument capable of = playi=3D ng romantic AND baroque repertoire <BR>SOMEWHERE in the vicinity) ok. <BR> <BR>And the organist wanted a HAND PUMPED instrument? &nbsp;For GOD'S = sake!=3D20=3D &nbsp;How <BR>ridiculous! <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>SCOTT F. FOPPIANO</B>, Principal Organist and = Director of=3D Music <BR>THE NATIONAL SHRINE OF THE LITTLE FLOWER, Royal Oak, MI <BR>(Geo. Kilgen &amp; Son Pipe Organ Co., St. Louis, MO, Opus 5180, 1933) <BR>Staff House Organist, THE FOX THEATRE, Detroit, MI (Wurlitzer, 1928) <BR><I>=3DE2=3D80=3D9CCantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat = dicens, <BR>fiat cor meum immaculatum ut non = confundar.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D</I></FONT>t</HTML>e   --part1_96.bb8d8e0.2735be5d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:35:11 EST   In a message dated 00-11-04 14:35:00 EST, Scott writes:   << Very interesting indeed. I wish I had the $$$ to bring in a tracker = with no expression, no pistons and no crescendo and sit it RIGHT next to the = Kilgen console. Then I would like to invite organists who know how to handle = both to play them back to back and decide which they like better. >>   Scott: I don't think you'd win. There is a certain group of people who will = prefer a limited tracker for every type of music! Unfortunately they often have = the ability to make a congregation believe that a tracker is really what they need and then find some poor (rich ) soul to pay for it. Later they go running off to purer pastures unable to understand why a praise band has replaced their box of whistles. Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes - reply From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:19:30 EST   In a message dated 11/4/00 1:28:33 PM EST, diaphone64@hotmail.com writes:   << #1, What does this do the tonality? and #2, is there any hope for cleaning the knicks out? Jason >>   a couple of quickie answers...   #1 - filling in the nicks was probably done to brighten the tone slightly =   and to (try to) add some 'articulation' (or "chiff" if you will). filling = in the nicks might effectively narrow the opening of the flue, thus narrowing =   the width of the windsheet at the top lip of the mouth. sometimes this = will brighten the stop and also runs the risk of softening the stop and can = make the speech less steady if overdone.   #2 - the putty could be removed by a skilled voicer with a sharp voicing = saw IF they are well versed in this type of heavily knicked style of voicing. = the knicking was put there to minimise the attack problems inherant in = pipework voiced on moderate and high(er) wind pressure (over 3 1/2 inches wc). the result will make the tone a bit duller but the total effect does depend = on the scaling of the pipes, cutup, and so on.   hope this helps.   Rick M Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:53:03 EST     --part1_ba.d1cc398.2735df3f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/4/00 3:36:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, JKVDP@aol.com =   writes:     >   Yes- but you haven't yet heard THIS organ! =3Do)   --part1_ba.d1cc398.2735df3f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 11/4/00 3:36:59 PM Eastern = Standard Time, JKVDP@aol.com <BR>writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I don't think = you'd win. </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Yes- but you haven't yet heard THIS organ! = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3Do)</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ba.d1cc398.2735df3f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:06:28 -0800   At 01:27 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I have noticed on the Moller I play, that all the flutes (stopped AND >open) were all originally knicked. However, since possibly the >"revoicing" of the organ, they have all been filled in with a type of >putty or something.<snip>     A typical "quick fix" made by neo-Baroque partisans, this kind of thing is =   seen quite often in older, "orchestral" organs, where someone tried to "revoice" it to make it more "Baroquish". Materials used vary; a favorite =   of the screecher backers from 30 years ago on wood pipes was spackle, with =   some using "wood dough". The result is usually pretty unsuccessful, usually resulting in "thunking" bourdons and screechy principles.   >#1, What does this do the tonality?<snip>   The most immediate effect is upon initial speech. Nicking, which became popular during the advent of high pressure pipework, serves to more = quickly charge the interior of the pipe body with a positive instantaneous = pressure rise, thus forcing the "wind sheet" further outward more quickly, causing = a faster acceleration into the hysteresis mode that causes faster on-pitch speech. With the dawn of the "tracker-backer" era, due to the misguided efforts of Biggs and authors such as Fesperman, nicking was looked upon during the 1960s and 70s as somehow "bad", as it robbed the pipe of the bubbling "chiff" that many found desirable. Certainly, a LITTLE spray of inital partials on tierce-speaking component is desirable, but these = people went off the deep end, for the most part. Many (I'd gather MOST) people that either play or work on organs really don't have a clue as to the physics of pipe speech. Suffice it to say that its operation is analogous =   to a reed pipe, with the "wind sheet" acting much the same as a reed against a shallot. The "wind sheet", in its totality, NEVER enters the body of the pipe, a popular misconception. The first builder to properly describe the workings of a flue organ pipe was Ernest M. Skinner, in 1917. Audsley didn't "get it", as neither did Bonavia-Hunt and other contemporaries.   >#2, is there any hope for cleaning the knicks out?<snip>   Nick filling can usually be gotten rid of by judicious usage of an Xacto = or razor knife, being careful not to go any further than the original nicking =   was. Beware, however, as usually such filling of nicking will initially result in a pipe not even being able to speak at all, and sometimes mouth an languid relative dimensions have been changed simply to get the pipe to =   speak again. The effect of going back to nicking will be most noticeable in the inital speech's partials, and continuous tone will show a decrease in upper partials, also.   Organ "fads" are generally more radical and short-lived than those that plague other instruments. In the organ's case, such "fads" and quick = fixes can be very expensive to rectify later.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:01:18 -0800   At 02:32 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: the organist [at the time, >>having since left for purer pastures] wanted us to get a hand-pumped >>organ!" I just about fell out.<snip>WHY impose an inflexible, largely >>"antique" instrument on a congregation with >choirs, soloists, cantors and Liturgy????<snip>And the organist wanted a >HAND PUMPED instrument? For GOD'S sake! How >ridiculous! <snip>     Thanks for that. I seem to be the only one railing against the silliness of "trackerbackerism" in here half the time. It's nice to hear others = have had enough of it, too!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:11:37 -0800   At 03:35 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: >There is a certain group of people who will prefer a >limited tracker for every type of music! Unfortunately they often have = the >ability to make a congregation believe that a tracker is really what they >need and then find some poor (rich ) soul to pay for it. Later they go >running off to purer pastures unable to understand why a praise band has >replaced their box of whistles.<snip>   No truer words have graced this list in a long time. A fellow lister recently sent me an .mpg of the notorious "Frisky" at Wellesley. The discordant bellowing this turkey produces is MOST definately enough to drive me right out of the hall! "Then" was then...now is NOW! Modern = ears don't WANT to assailed by thin, fundamentally challenged voicing and obsolete temperaments. If organs continue to be built along these lines, we can kiss off the instrument for all practical intents and porposes. You'll note that the e-org peddlers, whose sales are ever-increasing, won't have any part of these "retro-fads". There's a lesson to be learned there!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: OT: Re: Telemarketers From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:20:08 EST   In a message dated 11/4/00 12:39:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, tmbovard@arkansas.net writes:   << We (Arkansans) did...??? When did we do this? (and/or when does the law take effect...?) >> Jeez! I hope I'm right too. It was a choice topic of several of the hosts = on our NJ talk radio station. Perhaps the law won't kick in till the new = year. Keep us posted Tim. I'm very curious how such a law would work out. Telemarketers always seem to find a way around regulations.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Re: Trackers vs......Re: expression and crescendo pedals From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:03:01 -0600   Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 03:35 PM 11/4/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >There is a certain group of people who will prefer a > >limited tracker for every type of music! Unfortunately they often have = the > >ability to make a congregation believe that a tracker is really what = they > >need and then find some poor (rich ) soul to pay for it. Later they go > >running off to purer pastures unable to understand why a praise band = has > >replaced their box of whistles.<snip> > > No truer words have graced this list in a long time. A fellow lister > recently sent me an .mpg of the notorious "Frisky" at Wellesley. The > discordant bellowing this turkey produces is MOST definately enough to > drive me right out of the hall! "Then" was then...now is NOW! Modern = ears > don't WANT to assailed by thin, fundamentally challenged voicing and > obsolete temperaments. If organs continue to be built along these = lines, > we can kiss off the instrument for all practical intents and > porposes. You'll note that the e-org peddlers, whose sales are > ever-increasing, won't have any part of these "retro-fads". There's a > lesson to be learned there!   It is important to understand that the Wellesley organ is not and was never intended to be a normal church organ -- there is an electro-pneumatic Aeolian-Skinner organ in the same room for that purpose -- but the Fisk was rather designed as replica early instrument for the authentic performance of a fairly narrow and specialized body of early music. This is something that the instrument does very well. Nobody in their right mind would advocate using such an instrument as the only instrument for the liturgy in an ordinary parish church.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: Nicking in Wooden Pipes From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 21:48:02 EST   In a message dated 11/4/00 1:28:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, diaphone64@hotmail.com writes:   << I have noticed on the Moller I play, that all the flutes (stopped AND = open) were all originally knicked. However, since possibly the "revoicing" of = the organ, they have all been filled in with a type of putty or something. #1, What does this do the tonality? and #2, is there any hope for cleaning the knicks out? >> I have found that most of the time when nicks are filled the "revoicer" didn't use the right materials and simply slopped in 'Plastic wood' or = some other off the shelf wood filler. The problem with these is that they don't =   expand and contract at the same rate as the wood and will fall out after a =   few years. This is good if you want to undo the revoicing as it is easy to =   simply take off the caps and poke the stuff out with a small screw driver. =   When I fill nicks (I have my own secret formula) I usually end up putting = in a few back in during the revoicing process. Hope this helps.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: Goodbye Song? From: "Jerry Ripley" <jaripley@lan2000.net> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:02:16 -0800   Greetings, Y'all,   Please keep good thoughts this week for my synagogue board, the Cantor, = and me. The board will be asked to vote their approval on a proposal to = replace the Hammond CV (purchased used about 45-50 years ago). Pray that (at = least a majority of) the board will agree and accept the recommendation.   Now, providing that all goes well, the final Shabbat with the Hammond will be very soon. Any suggestions for a "Goodbye Song" which might be played = at the end of that service, something appropriate to such an occasion? "So Long, It's Been Good to Know You" has already come to mind! <G>   Thanks!   Jerry Ripley Congregation Emanu El San Bernardino, California, USA      
(back) Subject: Re: Goodbye Song? From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:21:53 -0800   May I suggest "Shalom Chaverim" ( for all the non hebrew speakers it means goodbye old friend and ends in L'hitdraot which kind of means till we meet again) Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Ripley" <jaripley@lan2000.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:02 PM Subject: Goodbye Song?     > Greetings, Y'all, > > Please keep good thoughts this week for my synagogue board, the Cantor, and > me. The board will be asked to vote their approval on a proposal to replace > the Hammond CV (purchased used about 45-50 years ago). Pray that (at least > a majority of) the board will agree and accept the recommendation. > > Now, providing that all goes well, the final Shabbat with the Hammond = will > be very soon. Any suggestions for a "Goodbye Song" which might be = played at > the end of that service, something appropriate to such an occasion? "So > Long, It's Been Good to Know You" has already come to mind! <G> > > Thanks! > > Jerry Ripley > Congregation Emanu El > San Bernardino, California, USA > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >        
(back) Subject: Re: Goodbye Song? From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:26:25 -0800   PS What are they replacing it with. I have seen all kinds of interesting replacements for Hammond in synagogues. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Ripley" <jaripley@lan2000.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:02 PM Subject: Goodbye Song?     > Greetings, Y'all, > > Please keep good thoughts this week for my synagogue board, the Cantor, and > me. The board will be asked to vote their approval on a proposal to replace > the Hammond CV (purchased used about 45-50 years ago). Pray that (at least > a majority of) the board will agree and accept the recommendation. > > Now, providing that all goes well, the final Shabbat with the Hammond = will > be very soon. Any suggestions for a "Goodbye Song" which might be = played at > the end of that service, something appropriate to such an occasion? "So > Long, It's Been Good to Know You" has already come to mind! <G> > > Thanks! > > Jerry Ripley > Congregation Emanu El > San Bernardino, California, USA > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >        
(back) Subject: Re: OT: Re: Telemarketers From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:31:02 EST     --part1_49.30973d4.27363c86_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/4/2000 7:21:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, TRACKELECT@cs.com writes:     > Jeez! I hope I'm right too. It was a choice topic of several of the = hosts on > our NJ talk radio station. Perhaps the law won't kick in till the new = year. > Keep us posted Tim. I'm very curious how such a law would work out. > Telemarketers always seem to find a way around regulations. >   A similar law is to take effect in Connecticut on the first of the year. I =   can hardly wait!!!   Malcolm   --part1_49.30973d4.27363c86_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 11/4/2000 7:21:05 PM Eastern = Standard Time, <BR>TRACKELECT@cs.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Jeez! I hope I'm = right too. It was a choice topic of several of the hosts on <BR>our NJ talk radio station. Perhaps the law won't kick in till the new = year. <BR>Keep us posted Tim. I'm very curious how such a law would work out. <BR>Telemarketers always seem to find a way around regulations. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>A similar law is to take effect in Connecticut on the first of the = year. I <BR>can hardly wait!!! <BR> <BR>Malcolm</FONT></HTML>   --part1_49.30973d4.27363c86_boundary--