PipeChat Digest #1652 - Wednesday, November 8, 2000

 

Fw: EM Skinner replacement

  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>

Fw: What we played!  was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement

  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>

Re: Rumor Mills and Organ Building-Hearty Amen

  by <Wurlibird1@aol.com>

Moller archives

  by "Mickey Shankland" <mrmouse@raex.com>

Re: Organ Questions/Replys

  by <Cremona502@cs.com>

Paul Ayres Toms River Concert

  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>

Re: Fw: What we played!  was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement

  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>

 


(back) Subject: Fw: EM Skinner replacement From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:18:53 -0500   I agree on keeping the origional EMS console and restoring it. Horseshoe consoles are far better to work with than a doorknob console. = One could however, pull a Universal Studios (1925 Phantom of the Opera), = Buena Vista Disney Studios (1954 Nautilus) and Notre Dame Cavalle-Coll- and have = a horseshoe doorknob console. After all, the arm reaches in circles- not linearlyerlyerly. <G> An EMS unified 'theatre' organ: Old Ernest would pooh-pooh the idea I'm sure, even tho he was well-acquainted with Jonesee's madness: and such *wonderful* madness it was!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Thursby <raythursby@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:27 PM Subject: Re: EM Skinner replacement     > About the famous "DeserTBob analysis:" It should be borne in mind that > Wurlitzer built numerous consoles with straight stop rails for residence and > church use. These were reasonably attractive and quite handy. > > If someone wanted to replace an existing console and was content with > stop-keys (and I agree with dB that they are easier to get along with = than > drawknobs) why not replicate the Kilgen "wing-type" console which was, > except for an unfortunate tendency to be overly wide (certainly not > necessary, especially today), quite handsome? > > However, my vote is for the church in question to have the original EMS > console rebuilt instead. It was up to handling the tonal resources when new > and, with careful restoration, should do just as well in the future. > Original instruments, regardless of type, should be maintained as often = as > possible. > > For my own evil purposes, I'd love to see a good EMS unified, fitted = with a > nice large-scale stopped flute (mit tremolo) and unified. It'd make a > wonderful theater organ.... > > Ray Thursby > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: What we played! was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:26:52 -0500   Tommy (et al)- You were lucky to only play T&F once while at JBurns. Dr. Paul did a show at Central Music too, and I played the T&F for him: except at this show, the bottom of his coffin gave-way and he landed on his lillies! All kidding aside, the guys that played the Paramount in Indy did an = awfully good job- from Widor to Crawford to Wright to dance band-stuff. The Paramount 4/42 Wurlibeastie is now in Ellenton, Fl. played by Bill Vlasik and Dwight Thomas.   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hoehn <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: What we played! was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement     > Rick and Brewse et al. > > Only once in my tenure at JBurns in Tampa and once in Winter Haven did I ever > play the d-minor T&F by Johanne. The occassion was Halloween night and Dr. Paul > Bearer was the special guest for the evening. Since it was his theme song, it > got played when he was introduced. As far as the Widor goes, none of = the other > organists at the place were capable of playing it (you remember Charlie don't > you Rick?). The standard repertoire from me was whatever the people in = te seats > behind me wanted to hear. I set no program and each set was unique = unto > itself. > > tom > > VEAGUE wrote: > > > Bruce- You've pretty much got it in a nutshell. They play that darned T&F > > to death. Herr Bach would scream, "ENOUGH, already!". Widor they play like a > > firehouse exercise, and when we had the Paramount here in Indy, "The Little > > Mermaid" was bubbling out your ears. > > > > Rick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:54 PM > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement > > > > > Just curious... > > > > > > what repertoire would organists like to play in pizza parlors? = When I've > > > been fortunate enough to find one, the fare was usually T&F in = d-minor > > > (DAH!), snippits of the Widor Toccata, and broadway showtunes. I'm not > > > familiar with theatre repertoire, > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Rumor Mills and Organ Building-Hearty Amen From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:46:40 EST   Ditto, Ben and others   A classic example of unscrupulous tactics is represented in my home town. = A very large RC church is served by a rather poor example of organ building. = The organ consists of about five ranks, unified to the hilt, one reed (a rather asthmatic Oboe), and little else but couplers. The (theater = organist) sales rep saddled this very young congregation with a dud and they still = have it as built by a rather well-established mid-American builder (use your imagination).   The dear Father knew less about organs than I do about Vatican plumbing, which is nil. The salesman could have done a better job if he were qualified, or if he cared. Rather, he practiced the golden rules of salesmanship: (1) get the order, (2) get the check, and (3) get out! Initially, everyone was blissful. The Father filled the need for an instrument, the church was getting a P-I-P-E O-R-G-A-N, and the salesman = was getting a fat check. Later............ :-( !!!   The dear Father can be blamed for ignorance, but not altogether. He = trusted and that was his major downfall. The real blame can be placed where it belongs, on the builder who was content to put his name on a dog and laugh =   all the way to the bank. Its a sad commentary but probably happens all = too often.   Jim Pitts            
(back) Subject: Moller archives From: "Mickey Shankland" <mrmouse@raex.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:58:00 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C04905.CBD0D960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Where are the Moller archives and how do you access them? THanks in =3D advance.   M Shankland =3D20   mrmouse@raex.com =3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C04905.CBD0D960 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DVerdana size=3D3D2>Where are the Moller archives and = how =3D do you=3D20 access them?&nbsp; THanks in advance.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DVerdana size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DVerdana size=3D3D2>M Shankland&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DVerdana size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DVerdana size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:mrmouse@raex.com">mrmouse@raex.com</A>&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C04905.CBD0D960--    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Questions/Replys From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:00:44 EST   In a message dated 11/7/00 8:13:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, randyterry@laumc.org writes:   << I certainly agree with updating consoles and relays - but in sone cases like opus 150 in Kansas City, MO, = I thought the strict restoration with no changes at all was nice. >>   Unfortunately, when the mechanism such as relays, etc. are changed the = organ is no longer original and in some cases it can effect pipe speech. It's = a shame that our need for big too often takes over.   Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . Duncan, Miles, and Molly visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Paul Ayres Toms River Concert From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:13:25 -0500 (EST)   Friends: Paul Ayres graced us with a beautifully played recital at First United Methodist Church of Toms River, NJ USA, tonight (Tues., Nov. 7). Despite it being mid-week, election day, and very dark, we had close to 100 persons in attendance for his performance (I was quite pleased with the turn-out).   While I found Mr. Ayres' registrations less than adventurous, his playing was rock solid and technically exciting, even if the ears longed for more colors.   He is a wonderful musician and I have enjoyed getting to know him personally.   Our organ is a 2-manual, 24-rank Schantz with electro-pneumatic slider chests. It is known for its mercilessly clear speech and warm, rich sound. Mr. Ayres used the flute sounds quite a lot, suggesting, perhaps, that he found them inviting and pleasant.   Following is the program.   Cheers, Neil Brown   CONCERT PROGRAM, Paul Ayres   Passacaglia in C Minor (Bach), O Lamm Gottes unschuldig (JSB), Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland (JSB), Prelude on "Es ist ein Ros entsprungen (Brahms), "Variations on Es ist ein Ros" (Paul Ayres), Partita and Toccata (C. V. Stanford) -- Intermission and Offering -- Ach bleib bei uns (JSB), Meine Seele erhabt der Herren (JSB), Wachet auf (JSB), Passacaglia in D Minor (Buxtehude), Passacaglia (Nicholas Ansdell-Evans), Trumpet Voluntary (Clarke/arr. Patrick Gowers) Ayre's Variations was a delightful piece. And the Gowers arrangement was a fun finale.    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: What we played! was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:14:35 -0500   Rick -   Was down there a couple of weekends ago...sounds great...had a nice talk = w/Bill Vlasik, got to go backstage and into the chambers, beautiful = installation.....   tom   VEAGUE wrote:   > Tommy (et al)- You were lucky to only play T&F once while at JBurns. = Dr. > Paul did a show at Central Music too, and I played the T&F for him: = except > at this show, the bottom of his coffin gave-way and he landed on his > lillies! > All kidding aside, the guys that played the Paramount in Indy did an = awfully > good job- from Widor to Crawford to Wright to dance band-stuff. > The Paramount 4/42 Wurlibeastie is now in Ellenton, Fl. played by Bill > Vlasik and Dwight Thomas. > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Hoehn <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 5:11 PM > Subject: What we played! was Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement > > > Rick and Brewse et al. > > > > Only once in my tenure at JBurns in Tampa and once in Winter Haven did = I > ever > > play the d-minor T&F by Johanne. The occassion was Halloween night = and > Dr. Paul > > Bearer was the special guest for the evening. Since it was his theme > song, it > > got played when he was introduced. As far as the Widor goes, none of = the > other > > organists at the place were capable of playing it (you remember = Charlie > don't > > you Rick?). The standard repertoire from me was whatever the people = in te > seats > > behind me wanted to hear. I set no program and each set was unique = unto > > itself. > > > > tom > > > > VEAGUE wrote: > > > > > Bruce- You've pretty much got it in a nutshell. They play that = darned > T&F > > > to death. Herr Bach would scream, "ENOUGH, already!". Widor they = play > like a > > > firehouse exercise, and when we had the Paramount here in Indy, "The > Little > > > Mermaid" was bubbling out your ears. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Cremona502@cs.com> > > > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:54 PM > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: EM Skinner replacement > > > > > > > Just curious... > > > > > > > > what repertoire would organists like to play in pizza parlors? = When > I've > > > > been fortunate enough to find one, the fare was usually T&F in = d-minor > > > > (DAH!), snippits of the Widor Toccata, and broadway showtunes. = I'm > not > > > > familiar with theatre repertoire, > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org