PipeChat Digest #1653 - Thursday, November 9, 2000

 

Re: EM Skinner replacement

  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>

Fwd: Mystery Organist

  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>

Australia's John Atwell plays Rochester Wurlitzer this Saturday (cross-po

  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>

Re: Rumor Mills and Organ Building-Hearty Amen

  by "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com>

Re: Organ Questions/Replys

  by "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>

Fw: Organ Questions/Replys

  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>

Re: Fw: Organ Questions/"Replys"

  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>

Blower Blade Measurements - Unusual Request

  by "Bob Kinner" <rkinner@one.net>

Re: Olivera

  by "Ronald Warren" <rwarren@inreach.com>

Fox Valley (Illinois) Theatre Organ Festival (Cross Posted)

  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>

Re: Organ Questions/Replys

  by <Cremona502@cs.com>

Fox Valley (Illinois) Theatre Organ Festival (Cross Posted)  ADDENDUM

  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>

Re: Blower Blade Measurements - Unusual Request

  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>

 


(back) Subject: Re: EM Skinner replacement From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:49:20 +0800   No but I don't want a horseshoe console. As for your remark about Wurlies, = you are way off the beam there. I was a foundation member of the Theatre Organ Society of Australia (WA Division) and before that of the NSW Division. I = also wrote articles for their magazine many years ago.Believe it or not I DON'T WANT A HORSESHOE CONSOLE. Believe it Bob! It's a fact!! Bob E. PS: By the way did the CC have stop tabs?   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 09:09 PM 11/7/2000 +0800, you wrote: > >The other solution would be a horse shoe console which I > >do not want.<snip> > > Now comes the famous DeserTBoB analysis. WHY don't you want a = "horseshoe > console"? Because it's associated with the cinema organ, I'm sure! NO > other reason. Here's a case where snobbery and "fashion" override > ergonomics and common sense. I do agree that long, straight tab = stoprails > are not workable. Hope-Jones' design, which Wurlitzer perfects, is THE > answer for accessibility and ergonomics. "Fashion" be damned. Does = this > mean you wouldn't play a "horseshoe" Cavaille-Coll? > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE: http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Fwd: Mystery Organist From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:03:07 -0600   We received the following note about our "Mystery Organist" photo on the Web Page. I will be removing the photo in a couple of days now that the person has been identified.   Thanks to everyone for their help   David *********************************************************** >A friend of my former choir-master has identified the organist as >Edgar Cook sitting at the newly-built Willis at Southwark in 1952. >Many thanks to you and your members for your help. >Regards, >Alan Godfrey.   -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Australia's John Atwell plays Rochester Wurlitzer this Saturday (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:37:40 -0500   Just a reminder that Australia's world famous theater organist John Atwell will perform his third Rochester concert at 8 p.m. on this Saturday, November 11. John will present his variety program of musical = entertainment on the world-class Auditorium Center 4/22 Wurlitzer. The Auditorium Center is located at 876 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605. The admission at the box office, which opens one hour before the start of the concert, is only $10 each. For an even better bargain, investigate our membership = bonus (see our website)! And yes up to 2 ticket stubs can be used for credit towards your membership.   Driving directions, concert schedules, membership information, a complete 4/22 stoplist and lots of photos may be found at our home on the web at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ .     We hope that you can attend - - - see you Saturday!   Regards, Ken Evans, RTOS President      
(back) Subject: Re: Rumor Mills and Organ Building-Hearty Amen From: "WDBabcock" <WDBabcock@email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:52:50 -0600   I think part of the blame can be laid at the feet of many clergy who think the laying on of hands makes the experts on everything including the music program of the congregation. William D. "Bill" Babcock WDBabcock@msn.com wbabcock@lansing.lib.il.us My goal is to be the person my dog thinks I am. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wurlibird1@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Rumor Mills and Organ Building-Hearty Amen     > Ditto, Ben and others > > A classic example of unscrupulous tactics is represented in my home town. A > very large RC church is served by a rather poor example of organ building. > The organ consists of about five ranks, unified to the hilt, one reed (a > rather asthmatic Oboe), and little else but couplers. The (theater organist) > sales rep saddled this very young congregation with a dud and they still have > it as built by a rather well-established mid-American builder (use your > imagination). > > The dear Father knew less about organs than I do about Vatican plumbing, > which is nil. The salesman could have done a better job if he were > qualified, or if he cared. Rather, he practiced the golden rules of > salesmanship: (1) get the order, (2) get the check, and (3) get out! > Initially, everyone was blissful. The Father filled the need for an > instrument, the church was getting a P-I-P-E O-R-G-A-N, and the salesman was > getting a fat check. Later............ :-( !!! > > The dear Father can be blamed for ignorance, but not altogether. He trusted > and that was his major downfall. The real blame can be placed where it > belongs, on the builder who was content to put his name on a dog and laugh > all the way to the bank. Its a sad commentary but probably happens all too > often. > > Jim Pitts > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Questions/Replys From: "Douglas A Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:04:20 -0500   Please explain how a change of a relay affects pipe speech.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:00:44 EST Cremona502@cs.com writes: > In a message dated 11/7/00 8:13:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > randyterry@laumc.org writes: > > << I certainly agree with updating > consoles and relays - but in sone cases like opus 150 in Kansas > City, MO, I > thought the strict restoration with no changes at all was nice. >> > > Unfortunately, when the mechanism such as relays, etc. are changed > the organ > is no longer original and in some cases it can effect pipe speech. > It's a > shame that our need for big too often takes over. > > Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com > in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . > Duncan, Miles, and Molly > visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: Fw: Organ Questions/Replys From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:06:30 -0500   Yeah! Waiting with baited breath for the answer to this one!. <G> = heeheehee   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas A Campbell <dougcampbell@juno.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Organ Questions/Replys     > Please explain how a change of a relay affects pipe speech. > > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:00:44 EST Cremona502@cs.com writes: > > In a message dated 11/7/00 8:13:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > randyterry@laumc.org writes: > > > > << I certainly agree with updating > > consoles and relays - but in sone cases like opus 150 in Kansas > > City, MO, I > > thought the strict restoration with no changes at all was nice. >> > > > > Unfortunately, when the mechanism such as relays, etc. are changed > > the organ > > is no longer original and in some cases it can effect pipe speech. > > It's a > > shame that our need for big too often takes over. > > > > Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com > > in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . > > Duncan, Miles, and Molly > > visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > > topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Organ Questions/"Replys" From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:41:51 EST   The relay has absolutely no effect of any kind upon the speech of = pipework.   The relay can affect the responsiveness of the action, but not pipe speech =   characteristics.   Change of ACTION TYPE, from slider-and-pallet soundboards to pitman = action, or pitman action to electromechanical, CAN cause changes in pipe speech. This is why the use of electromechanical actions in place of existing electropneumatic actions does NOT constitute restoration, nor does it constitute the preservation of an instrument's sound.   Likewise, mounting facade pipes on new actions directly below their feet, when in the original historic installation they were tubed off some = distance from the main toeboard, can result in speech changes, notably in speed and =   harmonic content of attack transients.   Sebastian Matthaus Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Blower Blade Measurements - Unusual Request From: "Bob Kinner" <rkinner@one.net> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:59:45 -0500   I'm working with an aircraft-engine engineer to put our blower on steroids. We have a Zephyr 1/2 hp 6" blower that we want to increase to 7" or 8" (or maybe a little better). This unit has two simple radial fans in it and leaves most of the housing empty. If you have a 7"+ blower in the 1/2 to 1 hp range, could you measure the size and positioning of the blades for me and let me know? On this unit, this sizes of the fans are stamped on the spec plate; but the number and angling of the blades is not. This is getting to be an interesting little project.   Thanks, Bob   -- Bob Kinner AA8FH rkinner@one.net "If at first you don't succeed, switch to power tools." Red Green      
(back) Subject: Re: Olivera From: "Ronald Warren" <rwarren@inreach.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 18:12:46 -0800   Thanks a lot Ron Warren   Dan Miller wrote:   > > Any new CD'S by Hector Olivera ? > > > > Check Hector's website: > www.hectorolivera.com > > Best regards, > Dan Miller > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fox Valley (Illinois) Theatre Organ Festival (Cross Posted) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 20:28:48 -0600   On Sunday November 19th Chicago Area Theatre Organ Enthusiasts (CATOE) presents The Fox Valley CATOE FALL FESTIVAL featuring two historic theatre =   pipe organs in the Arcada Theatre and the historic Hotel Baker, both in downtown St. Charles, Illinois. At the Arcada longtime house organist Les Hickory will present a organ program on the 3/16 Geneva-Marr & Colton Theatre Pipe Organ and will also accompany a two reel silent comedy film. =   Following the Arcada Program will be a sumptious brunch at the Hotel Baker =   (just across the Fox River bridge ) with organ music by David Reed at the Baker's original 3/10 Geneva Pipe Organ. Tickets are available for $35 each and include both the Les Hickory Program and Brunch at the Hotel = Baker with David Reed. Mail orders to: CATOE BOX OFFICE, 173 Rosedale Ave., Aurora, Il. 60506-4530. Make checks or mail orders payable to CATOE and please include a stamped self addressed envelope. There will be no tickets sold on the day of the show and all reservations must be in by November 12, 2000. For additional information call: (847) 470-0743 after 5pm.   This will be a great event for Theatre Organ lovers...and the brunch at = the historic Baker is terrific. hope to see you there.   Jon    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Questions/Replys From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:38:16 EST   In a message dated 11/8/00 8:04:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, dougcampbell@juno.com writes:   << Please explain how a change of a relay affects pipe speech. >>   .... or other playing mechanism.... sorry! I don't do electricity! ;-)   Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . Duncan, Miles, and Molly visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Fox Valley (Illinois) Theatre Organ Festival (Cross Posted) ADDENDUM From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 21:58:29 -0600   Additional information for those interested:   Fox Valley Fall Festival...starting time for Les Hickory's program is 12 noon....Brunch will follow the Arcada program   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: Blower Blade Measurements - Unusual Request From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:49:29 EST   Have you considered putting a higher speed motor on it?   Alan B