PipeChat Digest #1671 - Thursday, November 23, 2000

 

Re: Blowers

  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>

Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post

  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>

Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post

  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>

Re: Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post

  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net>

RE: NYC Choral/Orch/Organ Concert 12/3

  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>

Re: Blowers

  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>

Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Noel Jones, AAGO" <gedeckt@usit.net>

Re: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>

Re: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net>

Thanksgiving anywhere - funny??

  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>

Re: Diane Bish Concert

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Noel Jones, AAGO" <gedeckt@usit.net>

Re: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Bob North" <bnorth@intergate.ca>

Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com>

Re: Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by <JKVDP@aol.com>

Re: Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>

Re: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post

  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>

Re: (not really) Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>

Thanksgiving in Canada, creeping egotistical US imperealism...

  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>

Re: (not really) Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada

  by <Puppydawgbreath@cs.com>

 


(back) Subject: Re: Blowers From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 06:53:49 -0600   At 11:00 PM -0600 11/21/00, Louis Katz wrote: >Hi, >I am relatively new to the list. I am working on my pipe organ soldering >and am a a point where I need to by a blower. I have been getting specs = on >organ blowers and they seem awfully like the blowers on dust collectors = for >wood shops. I am looking at a Delta dust collector that has a blower with = a >static pressure of 11" W.C. and 1200 CFM (free air I believe). It is >powered by a 1.5 horse electric motor direct drive. >Does this sound like a reasonable blower? The whole dust collector costs >about $ 260. It is cheaper to buy the whole thing than to get just the >blower. My spec sheet is at work and if I remember coreectly it is 70 >decibels as a dust collector.   Louis   First of all, there is a list dedicated to those folks who are working on their own residence pipe organ, it is called DIYAPASON-L and information about it can be found at: http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org You might want to think about joining that list and asking this and any other questions you may have regarding your instrument. The folks there are very helpful and do include some professional organbuilders. Asking about blowers on that list might help you find someone with an extra organ blower that might be for sale and might be convenient to you.   I'm not sure where you are located but have you checked around locally with any organbuilders in your area? Many times they have miscellaneous parts, including blowers, floating around their shop that might be available for a very small cost vs the cost of a new blower.   Have you checked the "For Sale" pages as http://theatreorgans.com sometimes there are blowers available for sale on those pages?   I would not suggest that you use the Dust Collector blower as it probably is not meant for long-term continuous running. That motor is probably meant for a home shop where it would get turned on for short periods while someone is running a saw, planer, whatever. The motor would probably burn out under the stress of supplying the organ. And I am sure that the noise factor is rather high. You would be much better off in the long run to find a blower meant for the application of supplying wind for a pipe organ.   Hope this helps   David  
(back) Subject: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:37:12 -0600   Here's an email I received. Can anyone suggest anything?   > "I live in Hollywood, CA and am looking for a great church organ concert for me and my visiting family on Christmas Eve. We don't focus on the religion, just great music. I can't find anything. Do you have any suggestions on churches that have great organ music? Bagpipes or an orchestra would be a bonus:) > Thank you, > Erika > erikadurham@yahoo.com" >   Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com The Theatre Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com/theatre    
(back) Subject: Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:45:48 -0500   Wouldn't the Spreckles organ in San Diego have outdoor holiday concerts? Gee......don't know: never been there!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Johnson <bmjohns@fgi.net> To: <organchat@egroups.com>; PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <PIPORG-L@listserv.alabany.edu> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post     > Here's an email I received. Can anyone suggest anything? > > > "I live in Hollywood, CA and am looking for a great church organ = concert > for me and my visiting family on Christmas Eve. We don't focus on the > religion, just great music. I can't find anything. Do you have any > suggestions on churches that have great organ music? Bagpipes or an > orchestra would be a bonus:) > > Thank you, > > Erika > > erikadurham@yahoo.com" > > > > Brent Johnson > The Organ Web Ring > http://www.organwebring.com > The Theatre Organ Web Ring > http://www.organwebring.com/theatre > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@mediaone.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:11:11 -0500   San Diego is at least a two hour drive from Hollywood. What's happening at First Congo? http://www.fccla.org/   Stan   VEAGUE wrote: > > Wouldn't the Spreckles organ in San Diego have outdoor holiday concerts? > Gee......don't know: never been there! > > Rick > l I received. Can anyone suggest anything? > > > > > "I live in Hollywood, CA and am looking for a great church organ = concert > > for me and my visiting family on Christmas Eve. We don't focus on the  
(back) Subject: RE: NYC Choral/Orch/Organ Concert 12/3 From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:25:20 -0600   For those who have not heard this instrument, I recommend making your way = to this concert if you are able to do so. A large, four-manual Austin, it = has recently been cleaned and given voice lessons at the hands of Gluck Orgelbau. The result is a marvelous blend of finesse and sparkle. I had the pleasure of listening to and playing the organ in September; the church's wise investment in its improvement could not be more apparent.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: TubaMagna@aol.com [mailto:TubaMagna@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 6:54 PM To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu; pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: NYC Choral/Orch/Organ Concert 12/3     THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK   presents   Music for Soloists, Orchestra, Choir, Piano Four Hands, and Organ   SUNDAY AFTERNOON, 3 DECEMBER, 2000 at 4:00    
(back) Subject: Re: Blowers From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:31:57 -0500   >In a message dated 11/21/00 11:52:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >Louis.Katz@mail.tamucc.edu writes: > ><< Hi, > I am relatively new to the list. I am working on my pipe organ soldering > and am a a point where I need to by a blower. I have been getting specs = on > organ blowers and they seem awfully like the blowers on dust collectors = for > wood shops. I am looking at a Delta dust collector that has a blower = with a > static pressure of 11" W.C. and 1200 CFM (free air I believe). It is > powered by a 1.5 horse electric motor direct drive. > Does this sound like a reasonable blower? The whole dust collector costs > about $ 260. It is cheaper to buy the whole thing than to get just the > blower. My spec sheet is at work and if I remember coreectly it is 70 > decibels as a dust collector. > >> > >No! Don't use a dust collector blower on an organ! It is way too noisy = and >probably is not designed to run for long periods like an organ blower. At >that price it has a cheap motor and you will be lucky if it lasts a year. = I >bought a cheap Taiwan drill press and it burnt up the motor after less = than a >year while drilling toe boards. Save up for a White or Zephyr blower or a >used Spencer. Post a wanted ad on Church Organ Trader. Build some bellows = and >hire a kid to pump but don't use a dust collector blower.   With a little effort you may be able to find a good used Spencer. If = you're in the NJ area, my friend Dave Kopp may have one. "dave@dydacomp.com" = email him with your specs and see what he has.   John V      
(back) Subject: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Noel Jones, AAGO" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:33:54 -0500   As we prepare to play for Thanksgiving services here in the United States, commemorating the Pilgrims' meal with the Indians, I am reminded that Thanksgiving is a holiday in Canada too, but on a different day.   1. Do churches in Canada have Thanksgiving services? (I wonder about this because I conducted an act from La Traviata with the Canadian Opera on Canadian Thanksgiving in a church since the church free empty that day)   2. Does Thanksgiving in Canada commemorate the Pilgrims and the Indians = from what is now the US, or something else? --   Noel Jones, AAGO gedeckt@usit.net   Moderator, Rodgers Organ Discussion Group www.frogmusic.com/rodgersorgan.html    
(back) Subject: Re: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:48:37 -0600   On 11/22/00 10:33 AM, Noel Jones, AAGO wrote:   > 1. Do churches in Canada have Thanksgiving services? (I wonder about = this > because I conducted an act from La Traviata with the Canadian Opera on > Canadian Thanksgiving in a church since the church free empty that day)   No, churches don't have services on Thanksgiving Day in Canada. Many churches hold Harvest Thanksgiving services - but these are often late in September rather than close to Canadian Thanksgiving - the second Monday = in October. > > 2. Does Thanksgiving in Canada commemorate the Pilgrims and the Indians = from > what is now the US, or something else?   Canadian Thanksgiving does NOT commemorate the Pilgrims and Indians from what now is the US. It has nothing whatsoever to do with US Thanksgiving.   That being said, I have no idea why the Canadian Thanksgiving holiday was established - we don't talk much about that sort of thing up here. I = suspect though that it had a lot to do with the fact that there was no long = weekend in October!   Russ Greene    
(back) Subject: Re: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <organist@total.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:51:18 -0500   I was always under the impression that the Canadian Thanksgiving was sort = of a celebration of our harvests. Many churches here in Montreal decorate = their sanctuaries with fruit, vegetables, and other things signifying the theme = of harvest.   Carlo    
(back) Subject: Thanksgiving anywhere - funny?? From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:55:24 -0800   I guess we all have our own thanksgivings. I even think it is great to = set aside a day to be thankful. I don't think too much about pilgrims, but think of family, friends and other blessings, including my country and = work.   I am most thankful that on Thanksgiving Day I can stay home, read the = paper, watch TV, go to the beach, and not set ONE FOOT (as opposed to two!) in church at all, since for the first time in years and years I do not have = to play a church service!!! I don't have to play on Christmas Day either, yeah!!   Randy :-)    
(back) Subject: Re: Diane Bish Concert From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:27:21 -0800   At 07:51 PM 11/19/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Mark your 2001 calendar for Sunday, February 11th at 4PM when Diane Bish =   >will be performing on the 28 RK Casavant Organ at St. Francis Xavier RC = at >29th & Linden Ave in Wilmette, Illinois. The pastor of the church invites =   >all who enjoy listening to organ music to this free concert.<snip>   Be sure to stick around afterwards for the "Sequin Grab" in the Fellowship =   Hall! Her Bishness will be placed on a spinning turntable cranked up to high speed, whereupon sequins will start departing her recital garb. The one with the most sequins at the end gets a great door prize!   hehehehe!   dB    
(back) Subject: Re: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Noel Jones, AAGO" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:08:28 -0500   >I have no idea why the Canadian Thanksgiving holiday was > established - we don't talk much about that sort of thing up here. I = suspect > though that it had a lot to do with the fact that there was no long = weekend > in October! > > Russ Greene > The Canadians....always so practical.    
(back) Subject: Re: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Bob North" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:29:34 -0800   Yes, Canadian churches have Thanksgiving services. I understand that it = is not as "big" a holiday as it its south of the 49th Parallel, but it is celebrated as a statutary holiday. Thanksgiving is more of a thank-you, if =   you will, for a bountiful harvest, as ours is earlier and nearer to the = end of a farmer's season. Besides, having it earlier means we can spend more time getting ready for Christmas (wink) Regards.............Bob     At 11:33 AM 11/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >As we prepare to play for Thanksgiving services here in the United = States, >commemorating the Pilgrims' meal with the Indians, I am reminded that >Thanksgiving is a holiday in Canada too, but on a different day. > >1. Do churches in Canada have Thanksgiving services? (I wonder about this >because I conducted an act from La Traviata with the Canadian Opera on >Canadian Thanksgiving in a church since the church free empty that day) > >2. Does Thanksgiving in Canada commemorate the Pilgrims and the Indians = from >what is now the US, or something else? >-- > >Noel Jones, AAGO >gedeckt@usit.net > >Moderator, Rodgers Organ Discussion Group >www.frogmusic.com/rodgersorgan.html > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@aztec-net.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:26:07 -0500     -----Original Message----- From: Russ Greene <rggreene2@home.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Thanksgiving in Canada     >On 11/22/00 10:33 AM, Noel Jones, AAGO wrote: > >> 1. Do churches in Canada have Thanksgiving services? [snip]   To which Russ Greene responded:   >No, churches don't have services on Thanksgiving Day in Canada. Many >churches hold Harvest Thanksgiving services - but these are often late in >September rather than close to Canadian Thanksgiving - the second Monday = in >October.     To which I respond:   Excuuuse me, but I beg to differ!   I can't speak for every stripe of church in Canada, but the foregoing is = far too sweeping a generalization. My denominational heritage is the = Christian Reformed Church; I still attend one. Every CRC in Canada I've ever been a member of has _always_ had a Thanksgiving Day service on Thanksgiving Monday, and I suspect they all do.   Just my Canadian two cent's worth.   Carl Snip    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:28:57 EST   In a message dated 00-11-22 21:21:19 EST, cgscissors@aztec-net.com writes:   << Just my Canadian two cent's worth. >>   Best wishes on your Canadian National election this coming Monday. If = you need help counting your votes - I believe they'll be finished in Florida. =   Hm....how could I make this organic? Maybe we could find out if any of Allen's older tone cards have a problem with chads falling out. Jery in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:35:44 -0500 (EST)   don't know about the chads, but you gotta check for the pregnant dimples on those tone cards LOL    
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:58:10 -0800   At 07:37 AM 11/22/2000 -0600, you wrote: > > "I live in Hollywood, CA and am looking for a great church organ = concert >for me and my visiting family on Christmas Eve. We don't focus on the >religion, just great music. I can't find anything.<snip>   Well, there's always the overproduced, decidedly tacky "Glory of = Christmas" at the "Silica Basilica" behind the Orange Curtain, but they charge a "cover charge", and tend towards a heavy dose of their "Community Church" spin. I'd suggest contacting First Congregational, always home to LA's better organ artists and programs. I'd much prefer the First Congo's Skinner/Schlicker in its fine edifice to the Witch Hazel organ in that acoustical nightmare of a glass barn. At the "Basilica", you also run the =   risk of being shoved off your feet by their pastor, brain donor Robert Schuller.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Christmas Eve Concert in CA X-Post From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:01:40 -0800   At 08:45 AM 11/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Wouldn't the Spreckles organ in San Diego have outdoor holiday = concerts?<snip>   Now there would be a fun day, weather permitting. Our record cold = November (at least up here in the high desert wasteland) isn't boding well for a Christmastime Spreckles recital, but IF weather was nice, a trip by train to San Diego and a short bus or taxi ride to Balboa Park to hear this = great Austin in its amphitheater would make for a fun family activity. There's = a Spreckles organ website out there, but I forgot the URL.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: (not really) Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:04:34 -0600   At 11/22/00 11:35 PM, you wrote: >don't know about the chads, but you gotta check for the pregnant dimples >on those tone cards LOL   Hmmm...this makes me wonder what the Florida ballot cards would sound like if inserted into one of those Allen card-reader things...<ROTFLMAO>   TMB      
(back) Subject: Thanksgiving in Canada, creeping egotistical US imperealism... From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:40:37 -0800 (PST)     Anglican or Catholic, I do not beleve services exist. Fundmentalist churches, from the US : 75% probablility.   > 1. Do churches in Canada have Thanksgiving services? (I wonder about = this > because I conducted an act from La Traviata with the Canadian Opera on > Canadian Thanksgiving in a church since the church free empty that day)     I believe it is just a gov holiday... that should be replaced by somthing else.   > 2. Does Thanksgiving in Canada commemorate the Pilgrims and the Indians = from > what is now the US, or something else?                      
(back) Subject: Re: (not really) Fw: Thanksgiving in Canada From: <Puppydawgbreath@cs.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:01:33 EST   In a message dated 11/23/00 1:04:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, tmbovard@arkansas.net writes:   << Hmmm...this makes me wonder what the Florida ballot cards would sound = like if inserted into one of those Allen card-reader things...<ROTFLMAO> >>   Gorey, perhaps??   Bruce, still in the Beagles Nest with the Baskerbeagles... visit us: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 (aroooooooooO) but working from another computer since mine is in a REALLLY REALLLLY BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD MOOOD!!! (It's gone to the detention center for a couple of weeks)