PipeChat Digest #1604 - Tuesday, October 3, 2000
 
Re : Pachelbel Chorale Variations
  by <CdyVanpool@aol.com>
how come we don't hear about all these inventions?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Pachelbel Chorale Variations
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: Paul Ayres's organ tour of North America, Oct/Nov
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Fw: how come we don't hear about all these inventions?
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Pachelbel Chorale Variations
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Admin "oops"!
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: how come we don't hear about all these inventions?
  by "don2@texas.net" <don2@texas.net>
Re: Admin "oops"!
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
X-POST: El Capitan/Paramount Wurlitzer?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats!
  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>
Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re : Pachelbel Chorale Variations From: <CdyVanpool@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:14:17 EDT     Hi Darryl, You said: The question of the day is . . . do you keep the tempo the same for each = of the variations or do play each of the variations with different tempi in character with the style of the writing?   I play a lot of Pachelbel and Krebbs. I like their style very much = and find that they fall under my short fingers very well. <G> I can't say that I have a rule about the tempi in the variations. = I can say that I try to keep the chorale melody the same tempo (unless it is = in whole notes...<G) and that it is clearly heard. I try not to take the = tempo very fast in any of them. For me, I think the clarity of the lines are = most important, so you can hear the beauty of them. I usually play the chorale before the chorale prelude, introducing =   it. I have on occasion, with a short chorale prelude, played the chorale = on mf stops, then the chorale prelude, and returned to the chorale on a F combination (louder than the chorale prelude.) As far as the D minor, I have used the Picardy 3rd on occasion. I guess it depends on who you are playing it for. ( I am sure the purists = would eat your lunch...<G>) I have used it in church.... Bach Sunday.... Postlude....used it. For myself, in our Pipes Spectacular, I am playing the D minor as well. However, I am last on the program.....so I will use the Picardy. = This brings the concert it to a resolution. I think the kiddos should hear a major chord as the last sound they hear. = If I was first, I probably would not use it : saying more music to = come....   Just my thoughts, Van Vanpool, organist FUMC Bowie, Texas    
(back) Subject: how come we don't hear about all these inventions? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:26:00 -0400   Last week, someone on eBay advertised one organ pipe that could play a tune, this week a single pipe has its own wind supply...?? C'mon builders! you're not telling us about these new technologies! ;-)   >REFINISHED WOODEN ORGAN PIPE BELLOW > > A wonderful wooden organ pipe. It is 31 1/2" long, 2" wide and 2 >1/2" deep. It has been refinished and is ready for your shop or home. It > would make a great room decoration on the wall or even standing in >a corner. A great conversation piece. The total shipping cost on this = item >is > $5.50 in the United States. International buyers please email me >for a shipping quote. inventory# 270   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Pachelbel Chorale Variations From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:04:50 EDT   In a message dated 10/1/00 9:12:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, organdok@safari.net writes:   << The question of the day is . . . do you keep the tempo the same for = each of the variations or do play each of the variations with different tempi in character with the style of the writing? >>   I have also used piano sonatas by Kulau and Clementi as organ pieces to entice young pianists to the organ. I'have also discovered, to my own enjoyment, that Debussy pieces, such as arabesques, work exceptionally = well.   With regard to tempo, I was taught, and now that I am conscious of it, I = find the music more interesting and easy to follow if, when tempo changes are made, that they are in some way related. This allows the foot-tapping and =   body rhythm of the performer and listener to remain the same.   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: RE: Paul Ayres's organ tour of North America, Oct/Nov From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:11:52 -0500   But don't forget to vote....   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net [mailto:Innkawgneeto@webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 11:31 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Paul Ayres's organ tour of North America, Oct/Nov     But I, Brother Bruce, AM able to host Mr. Ayres at my church on Nov 7th, election day.   We are looking forward to it a lot.     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Fw: how come we don't hear about all these inventions? From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:06:03 -0500   Reminds me of a "door bell" a friend has....... You pull the knob outside his front door and thru clock-works inside the house, it winds a spring which releases and pumps bellows, turns a music barrel which plays a tune on pipes.   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: how come we don't hear about all these inventions?     > Last week, someone on eBay advertised one organ pipe that could play a > tune, this week a single pipe has its own wind supply...?? > C'mon builders! you're not telling us about these new technologies! > ;-) > > >REFINISHED WOODEN ORGAN PIPE BELLOW > > > > A wonderful wooden organ pipe. It is 31 1/2" long, 2" wide and 2 > >1/2" deep. It has been refinished and is ready for your shop or home. = It > > would make a great room decoration on the wall or even standing = in > >a corner. A great conversation piece. The total shipping cost on this item > >is > > $5.50 in the United States. International buyers please email me > >for a shipping quote. inventory# 270 > > John V > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pachelbel Chorale Variations From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:29:39 -0500   At 10/1/00 09:32 PM, you wrote to Pipechat:   >sadly, I don't play much of Pachelbel's music, so I can't offer an = opinion >on this. I have the 4 volumes by Kalmus, but I never learned any of it. >Maybe I should <G>. > >Carlo     Dear Carlo,   While we highly value everybody's contributions to Pipechat -- yourself certainly included -- I have to take certain exception with this posting = of yours.   Somebody asked a question, and you basically responded by proclaiming "I don't have any idea". I find it hard to believe that any fellow = Listmember can gain anything from the knowledge that you *don't have* the answer to the question...   In the future, please try not to waste bandwidth with postings of this nature. (Also, please remember that each posting anyone sends to the List will end up in +/- 400 mailboxes all over the world.)   However, if you *do* have an answer, an insight, a clarification, or even = a further question relating to somebody else's words, please don't hesitate to post it. And as ever, you are always free to start a new thread of = your own!   Thank you!   Tim Bovard Co-Administrator, Pipechat <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>          
(back) Subject: Admin "oops"! From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:35:16 -0500   Greetings, everyone...   I must apologize to the List and especially to Carlo -- my previous = message was, of course, intended to be private correspondence.   In the famous words of Roseanne Rosannadanna...:   "Never mind"...<g>   Tim Co-Administrator, Pipechat <admin@pipechat.org> <tmbovard@arkansas.net>    
(back) Subject: Re: how come we don't hear about all these inventions? From: "don2@texas.net" <don2@texas.net> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:44:20 -0500   A Cuckoo clock has two of these... It has two organ pipes in it with a little bellows attached to them. When the clock mechanism pushes the bellows it pumps air into the pipe and = makes the clock sound.   Don ---------- >From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> >To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Fw: how come we don't hear about all these inventions? >Date: Mon, Oct 2, 2000, 5:06 PM >   > Reminds me of a "door bell" a friend has....... > You pull the knob outside his front door and thru clock-works inside the > house, it winds a spring which releases and pumps bellows, turns a music > barrel which plays a tune on pipes. > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:26 AM > Subject: how come we don't hear about all these inventions? > > >> Last week, someone on eBay advertised one organ pipe that could play a >> tune, this week a single pipe has its own wind supply...?? >> C'mon builders! you're not telling us about these new technologies! >> ;-) >> >> >REFINISHED WOODEN ORGAN PIPE BELLOW >> > >> > A wonderful wooden organ pipe. It is 31 1/2" long, 2" wide and = 2 >> >1/2" deep. It has been refinished and is ready for your shop or home. = It >> > would make a great room decoration on the wall or even standing = in >> >a corner. A great conversation piece. The total shipping cost on this > item >> >is >> > $5.50 in the United States. International buyers please email = me >> >for a shipping quote. inventory# 270 >> >> John V >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Admin "oops"! From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:32:30 -0400 (EDT)   Oops, I guess even administrators err occasionally, albeit you do so ever so ever so occasionally, sir.   This is still a most wonderful forum, for which I'm grateful.   I think Pachelbel is underrated and underplayed (canon notwithstanding).   Neil    
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:45:33 -0700   I'm a little early, but I'm there ...        
(back) Subject: X-POST: El Capitan/Paramount Wurlitzer? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:24:05   This thread has been "transplanted" from the HamTech list, from whence is came.   The subject? The "new" El Capitan Theater in Hollywood, formerly the Paramount, and ORIGINALLY the El Capitan back in the late '20s/early '30s era. It has been said that an organ was never installed in the chambers, but, since my mother's family lived from the 1920 to 1947 just down the street from the theater on Orange Drive, I have a slight historical advantage. There reportedly WAS an organ in there, with console sitting off to stage right. Now, I remember hearing about this organ, which was supposedly "entombed" by the addition of CinemaScope in the late = '50s/early '60s. I specifically remember attending the first-run of "Doctor Zhivago" at the Paramount in 1966, and there was a large 3 manual console (about a 317, thereabout) still over at stage right, but no sight of any chambers.   Going back in time, Ma remembers the "talkies" being the rage of Hollywood Blvd in the post-1927 era, and remembers organs at the El Capitan, Graumann's (now at St. Finbar's RC in Burbank, albeit with some screwball console), the Oriental (down east on Hollywood Blvd. aways) and, of = course, Graumann's Egyptian. To add to the confusion factor, the name "El = Capitan" moved somewhere in this timeframe, either FROM Hollywood and Orange Drive to Cahuenga Blvd. (the ABC "Hollywood Palace" venue in the '60s), or vice versa. Now, I remember talking with Lester Pepiot back in the '60s or = '70s about the Graumann's organ that wound up in Burbank, and he did make mention of an "entombed" Wurlitzer at the Paramount, and there had been interest by someone (Vaughn? Simonton? Cole?) in getting it out of there for "scrap value".   LA old-timers, to the rescue, please! The "Dalt Wizzley" folks claim an organ was never installed in the Paramount/El Capitan, and I dont' think that's correct. Of course, "Wizzley" is far better and "manufacturing" history than they ever are at accurately reciting it, so what they say has to be taken with a box of salt. Ledwon says he played an electronic in = the Paramount back in the '60s, which would check out, since the CinemaScope conversions were already done in ernest by that time.   Anyone care to straighten everything out? Mom's a little "under the weather" these days, and Grandma (who was a personal friend of Harry = Cohn's right hand man at Columbia, Denver Harmon) is long gone...and my memory's trashed!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats! From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:52:37 -0700 (PDT)     Somthing I would like to see:   A 'Silent Film' done in: CinemaScope   However, I would back off and accept 1.85:1 Panavision, with Technicolour (or whatever is used these days for colour)   PS: Who is going to do a silent remake (using all the original footage) of   http://us.imdb.com/Title?0107822 Piano, The (1993) http://us.imdb.com/Name?Campion,+Jane   -- or --   http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093239 I've Heard the Mermaids Singing (1987) http://us.imdb.com/Name?Rozema,+Patricia   =3D=3D=3D SOME MODERN FILMS CAN MAKE GREAT SILENTS =3D=3D=3D =3D=3D SOMEONE NEEDS TO TRY THIS =3D=3D   Hello ....     > LA old-timers, to the rescue, please! The "Dalt Wizzley" folks claim an > organ was never installed in the Paramount/El Capitan, and I dont' think > that's correct. Of course, "Wizzley" is far better and "manufacturing" > history than they ever are at accurately reciting it, so what they say = has > to be taken with a box of salt. Ledwon says he played an electronic in = the > Paramount back in the '60s, which would check out, since the CinemaScope > conversions were already done in ernest by that time.    
(back) Subject: Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats! From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:16:10   At 12:52 AM 10/3/2000 -0700, you wrote: >=3D=3D=3D SOME MODERN FILMS CAN MAKE GREAT SILENTS =3D=3D=3D >=3D=3D SOMEONE NEEDS TO TRY THIS =3D=3D<snip>   ....someone's got too much time on their hands...   dB