PipeChat Digest #1605 - Wednesday, October 4, 2000
 
Fw:
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw:
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Admin "oops"!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Music gathering dust in library
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats!
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Looking for organ/brass/choral
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Looking for organ/brass/choral
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
Re: Looking for organ/brass/choral
  by "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net>
Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats!
  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>
Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats!
  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>
Re: CinemaScope silents
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
Widescreen Silents
  by "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu>
 


(back) Subject: Fw: From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:36:26 -0500   Hi List- This was sent to me and thought some PipeChat brains might help out this gentleman.   Thanks,   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Drew Cummings <dcumming@bancroft.pvt.k12.ma.us> To: <dutchorgan@svs.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:10 AM     > Hello, > > My name is Drew Cummings and I am a choir member at 1st Unitarian Church in > Worcester, MA. > > We have an Aeolian-Skinner organ built in the 60's which suffered, along > with our sanctuary, severe water damage after a fire this last June. = The > organ is being restored up in Vermont, and we are thinking about how to > re-do the sanctuary (in terms of paint, carpet, upholstery, etc. .. . = NOT > major rebuilding) to get the best acoustic effect. I wonder whether = you > have any quick advice on whom to contact / what sites to check out to = get > information of this sort?? > > We would be very grateful if you could help us out. > > Thanks, > > Drew Cummings > > Drew Cummings > Bancroft School > History Department > 110 Shore Drive > Worcester, MA 01604 > (508) 853-2640 > >      
(back) Subject: Fw: From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:43:33 -0500   Hi Mr. Cummings- I have passed your post on to members of PipeChat. This is a chat-list of very knowledgable church organists and builders- many in your area. You should be hearing from some of them soon, and I'll bet they'll be able to help you. For *my* input, may I suggest BARE MINIMUM of any carpetting and/or upholstery. This will afford the organ the best possible acoustics.   Thanks for writing!   Rick http://www.svs.net/Dutch     ----- Original Message ----- From: Drew Cummings <dcumming@bancroft.pvt.k12.ma.us> To: <dutchorgan@svs.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:10 AM     > Hello, > > My name is Drew Cummings and I am a choir member at 1st Unitarian Church in > Worcester, MA. > > We have an Aeolian-Skinner organ built in the 60's which suffered, along > with our sanctuary, severe water damage after a fire this last June. = The > organ is being restored up in Vermont, and we are thinking about how to > re-do the sanctuary (in terms of paint, carpet, upholstery, etc. .. . = NOT > major rebuilding) to get the best acoustic effect. I wonder whether = you > have any quick advice on whom to contact / what sites to check out to = get > information of this sort?? > > We would be very grateful if you could help us out. > > Thanks, > > Drew Cummings > > Drew Cummings > Bancroft School > History Department > 110 Shore Drive > Worcester, MA 01604 > (508) 853-2640 > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Admin "oops"! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:57:28 EDT   In a message dated 10/2/00 8:34:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Oops, I guess even administrators err occasionally, albeit you do so ever so ever so occasionally, sir. This is still a most wonderful forum, for which I'm grateful. I think Pachelbel is underrated and underplayed (canon notwithstanding). = >>   I will agree on all counts. And also add that it might be quite a = revealing thread to see just what people have in their music library that has never been played.   I recall several years ago deciding to do some serious piano work and = hauled out my copies of some Liszt piano works, only to find that about one-third = of the pages had not printed well enough to be read. I'm sure the publisher would have exchanged them, but since I'd had them for over ten years, I decided to keep them rather than endure the humiliation!! I also have = lots of Langlais, Dupre, Messiaen and Durufle in virtually original condition. =   Oh, and let's not forget Hermann Schroeder, whose three organ sonatas I bought after falling in love with the six little preludes. Acch! sigh!   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Music gathering dust in library From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:56:55 -0400 (EDT)   Bruce, good thread. I'm ashamed to say I've learned but one Buxtehude piece in the very large collection that I bought in 1997.   And to my utter dismay, I have not ventured very far into my Craig Phillips music either, someone I am proud to say I went to undergraduate with.   To all you listers who are currently studying organ in school, learn all the music you can NOW. You will have little time to learn it once you're in the throes of a church music program. At least, that has been my experience.   Peace to you all. Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats! From: "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:56:14 -0700     > >However, I would back off and accept 1.85:1 Panavision, with Technicolour >(or whatever is used these days for colour)   Actually, the 'modern' 1.85:1 (1.66:1 in Europe) aspect-ratio is not 'Panavision'... if you're assuming it's an anamorphic process, like CinemaScope or anamorphic Panavision.   It's filmed and projected 'flat' (spherical) there's no squeezing involved. The 'wide-screen' effect is achieved by simply masking off the top and bottom of the frame. So, we only see part of the frame.   There are a few true 'scope' films made today, but most of what we see in theatres is 1.85:1 faux wide-screen.   Best, Ron Yost    
(back) Subject: Looking for organ/brass/choral From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:46:29 EDT   Hey All, I am trying to plan a fun/informal hymn festival for November and = a Vesper Service of Lessons and Carols in December. We have a fairly good budget for both events, so I am looking to hire a few brass players for = each event to add some extra spark. I'm looking for some good music that is = basic yet tasteful including brass, organ or piano, and choirs. Any suggestions would be great!     -Pete Isherwood 1st Pres. trenton  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for organ/brass/choral From: <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 16:12:48 EDT   BECKHENHORST PRESS:   CRAIG COURTNEY: HYMN TO THE HOLY SPIRIT HARK, TEN THOUSAND HARPS AND VOICES   BECKENHORST CD's of Choral Collection, I believe for Spring/Summer of 2000 =   has this music on it-----but call them and request several previous collections and the CD's--------some EXCELLENT material to be found here   Nae Pearson  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for organ/brass/choral From: "Shirley" <pnst@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 16:26:42 -0400   At 03:46 PM 10/03/2000 EDT, Pete Isherwood wrote: >Hey All, > I am trying to plan a fun/informal hymn festival for November and = a >Vesper Service of Lessons and Carols in December. We have a fairly good >budget for both events, so I am looking to hire a few brass players for = each >event to add some extra spark. I'm looking for some good music that is = basic >yet tasteful including brass, organ or piano, and choirs. Any suggestions =   >would be great!     Brass & Organ concert upcoming at Trinity Lutheran, Lansdale, October 20. Will let you know what's on the program.... or better yet, just come!   You're at 1st Pres of Trenton, NJ? Heavily endowed church, next to zero congregation, if I've got the right Presbyterian church in Trenton! Nice organ, though, or so I'm told.   --Shirley          
(back) Subject: Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats! From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:08:04 -0700 (PDT)     In Hollywood, settled $$$ and nepotisically related actors, actresses, directors etc ... run the game.   Of course they have time on their hands!   > At 12:52 AM 10/3/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >=3D=3D=3D SOME MODERN FILMS CAN MAKE GREAT SILENTS =3D=3D=3D > >=3D=3D SOMEONE NEEDS TO TRY THIS =3D=3D<snip> > > ...someone's got too much time on their hands...    
(back) Subject: Re: Re-Think-Silent-Film-Formats! From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT)     Again, you have to consider the guage of the film stock being shown.   A 70mm print does not need perhaps any extreme anamorphic lens to be shown at 1.85:1 ... but one for 2.0:1 and beyond (2.85:1 being the upper 'flat' limit).   NOT SO for 35mm. All guages beyond 1.35:1 require anamorphic lenses of increasing exremeness.   I will not even touch on 16mm -- it does not even apply in this equasion -- except for some 1.66:1 prints shown on some professional 16mm systems.   I use the word 'Panavision' generically, not absoultly implying favor on the company or system(s).   Based on the 'Portrait' aspect ratio 'Widescreen' starts at 1.66:1 and beyond. [Exception to IMAX, a 70mm system of 1.35:1]   > >However, I would back off and accept 1.85:1 Panavision, with = Technicolour > >(or whatever is used these days for colour) > > Actually, the 'modern' 1.85:1 (1.66:1 in Europe) aspect-ratio is not > 'Panavision'... if you're assuming it's an anamorphic process, > like CinemaScope or anamorphic Panavision. > > It's filmed and projected 'flat' (spherical) there's no squeezing > involved. The 'wide-screen' effect is achieved by simply masking off > the top and bottom of the frame. So, we only see part of the frame. > > There are a few true 'scope' films made today, but most of what we see > in theatres is 1.85:1 faux wide-screen.    
(back) Subject: Re: CinemaScope silents From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:54:35 EDT       > A 'Silent Film' done in: > CinemaScope   Already been done . . . check out NAPOLEON (1927- dir. Abel Gance).   Dennis James   Silent Film Concerts 3707 5th Avenue, #412 San Diego, CA 92103 619-234-1396 / muscur@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Widescreen Silents From: "M. Hackett" <mikehack@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 23:34:15 -0700 (PDT)     I was hoping for colour and 24fps, done in the modern era.   Abel Gansk's film has neither. Nor is it 100% in the wider aspect ratio.   > > A 'Silent Film' done in: > > CinemaScope > > Already been done . . . check out NAPOLEON (1927- dir. Abel Gance).