PipeChat Digest #1611 - Monday, October 9, 2000
 
Re: Fox vs. Biggs, was observation
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: service list - St. Matthew's, Newport Beach CA USA
  by "Bart Agar" <agarba@netnet.net>
Of Catholics and Parking Lots
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Fw: Observation!
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
Re: Fw: Observation!
  by <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw>
OT:  Hail Columbia!, and other goofiness.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Fox vs. Biggs, was observation From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:40:03   At 05:51 PM 10/8/2000 -0400, "BB" wrote: >Due to the crystal clarity of the desert sunshine desertBob seems to kno= w >everything about everything--whether it's true or not. Here I reference= the >Biggs and Fox stuff.<snip>   I only know what I see, read or hear. The "Biggsy eyeroll" was witnessed by yours truly at a reception after a recital many years ago in Southern California after Biggs was asked if his interpretation of BWV 549 might "...differ slightly from that of Virgil Fox?". The "eyeroll" elicited howls of laughter, of which Biggsy acknowledged with the most stoic of smirks. I believe Orpha Ochse was present...and chuckling. Why not ask = her?   As for Fox's protestations of Bach "locked up in some old musty museum", that's recorded for posterity on one of the RCA "Heavy Organ" releases, a= s is, on Columbia, Biggs' famous quip about Bach being played on RCMH's Wurlitzer: "After all...it ISSSSS a REEEEAL pipe organ!" Although no one= I know is certain, it has been said that the RCMH performance was recorded = in its entirety by Columbia, but Biggs refused to let it be released or even heard, owing to his disdain for things "Wurlitzeresque". He would rather drive people nuts with his incessant pedal harpsichord releases than EVER be heard on a "cinema organ"! Fortunately for Biggs, the harpsichord enjoyed somewhat of a popular rennaissance in the '60s and '70s, and it w= as even showing up in popular music from Laurence Welk to the Byrds. To me= , a trip to the dentist prior to the introduction of the air drive drill wa= s more appealing.   I"m quite sure Biggs had far less complimentary private remarks after the dedicatory concert at Philharmonic Hall at Lincoln Center in 1962, when h= e was stuck with a "rigged" Allen TC-4, owing to the incomplete nature of t= he =C6olian-Skinner due to a strike by IBEW. The Allen, enlarged to 10 rank= s of generators, sounded quite good, as the resulting recording from Columbia attests, but I'm sure Biggs' budding "tracker-backer" sensibilities were devastated. That organ, later ably recorded by Fox on Enoch Light's Command label, is, of course, now part of the "Silica Basilica Rough-Fatty", behind the Orange Curtain in Southern California, where Fox did the aforementioned reprise recording on it, "The Fox Touch".   Crystal clear and NOT "bald" in the desert,   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: service list - St. Matthew's, Newport Beach CA USA From: "Bart Agar" <agarba@netnet.net> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:47:43 -0500   on 10/8/00 13:45, Bob Scarborough at desertbob@rglobal.net wrote:   > At 01:19 PM 10/8/2000 -0700, Bud-by-the-beach of St. > Matt's-in-the-Semitrailer wrote: >> Three-hankie service ... after FIVE verses of "Jesus Loves Me", the >> Blue-Hair Brigade was in PUDDLES (grin).<snip> > > Geez...keep THIS up and you might be able to land a spot on TBN! Think = of > the dollars from the trailer trashers! > >> Absolutely FULL church ... have NO idea how we're going to fit into the >> new interim space ... it will only seat 60; we had over a hundred at >> High Mass this morning. I see three Masses looming on the = horizon.<snip> > > Well, since they purport to be "catholics" of some stripe, you can = always > fall back on the time-honored RC tradition of "assembly line grace", > wherein masses are scheduled in marathon fashion, with those arriving > colliding with those leaving in the vestibule, and a continual = "destruction > derby" going on in the parking lot! <snarf snarf> > > dB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > Sir, Please try to be civil. I am a Catholic and I find your comments to be offensive.   BA    
(back) Subject: Of Catholics and Parking Lots From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:40:17 -0700   Bart: so are Bob and I (grin), but I'm of the "second-string" variety = (Anglican Catholic). Bob and I are old friends; I wasn't offended ... and, have you = ever BEEN in the parking lot at Queen of Angels, Newport Beach CA when the = 10:30 Mass lets out and the noon Mass crowd is trying to get IN? It's a Near Occasion = of Mortal Sin at the very LEAST (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Bart Agar wrote:   > on 10/8/00 13:45, Bob Scarborough at desertbob@rglobal.net wrote: > > > At 01:19 PM 10/8/2000 -0700, Bud-by-the-beach of St. > > Matt's-in-the-Semitrailer wrote: > >> Three-hankie service ... after FIVE verses of "Jesus Loves Me", the > >> Blue-Hair Brigade was in PUDDLES (grin).<snip> > > > > Geez...keep THIS up and you might be able to land a spot on TBN! = Think of > > the dollars from the trailer trashers! > > > >> Absolutely FULL church ... have NO idea how we're going to fit into = the > >> new interim space ... it will only seat 60; we had over a hundred at > >> High Mass this morning. I see three Masses looming on the = horizon.<snip> > > > > Well, since they purport to be "catholics" of some stripe, you can = always > > fall back on the time-honored RC tradition of "assembly line grace", > > wherein masses are scheduled in marathon fashion, with those arriving > > colliding with those leaving in the vestibule, and a continual = "destruction > > derby" going on in the parking lot! <snarf snarf> > > > > dB > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > Sir, > Please try to be civil. I am a Catholic and I find your comments to be > offensive. > > BA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Observation! From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:09:33 +0800 (CST)   The first "Volume" (2 CD-s) of the projected set is available from Vox.... I'm not sure when the other "Volumes" will be issued...       Morton Belcher   On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 TRACKELECT@cs.com wrote:   > > This reminds me of the Walter Kraft 18 record set of the complete works = of > Bach. This must have been some project, tramping all over Europe. Does = anyone > know if these recordings have been re mastered to CD. The pressings that = I > had were down right lousy. Kraft seemed to play well although a bit fast = for > my taste. He played some famous instruments as well as some not so = famous but > interesting ones as well. > > Alan B >  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Observation! From: <flcg1018@mails.fju.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:13:59 +0800 (CST)       On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 04:08 PM 10/7/2000 -0700, Bdu-by-the-beach wrote: > >Unfortunately, later in his career, those "perfect" takes were edited > >splicings, as he had severe arthritis.<snip>     Yes, it was rather well known in musical circles that EPB had arthritis= .... His doctor encouraged him to stop recording, but EPB kept on as long as= he could... =20 >=20 > Prior to that, Biggs was indeed, like Sinatra, a "one-take" artist. Ev= en > with the arthritic hands (I'd also be willing to bet he had problems wi= th > Carpel Tunnel Syndrome, then an unknown ailment), he was a formidable > recording performer with a prodigeous output. I seem to think Biggs wa= s in > his prime at the St. Thomas M=F6ller=20   Ummmm, I believe the Moller was the St. George's Moller in New York=20 City....   for the "French Organ Festival" LP in > 1962. =20   > Biggs' early forays to Europe to record various Silbermanns and > Schnitgers were unprecidented, made possible by the introduction of the > Ampex 350 in 1950. Biggs was a stickler for good recording technique (= as > was the Masterworks Division of Columbia at the time, thanks to William= S. > Paley's commitment to improving recorded sound), and we're left with so= me > truly outstanding recordings. Both Biggsie and Columbia are gone now, w= ith > no one and nothing to take their respective high places.   =20   I didn't realize Columbia was no longer making records.... Did Columbia= =20 merge with some other firm?     Best wishes to all,       Morton Belcher =20   >=20 > DeserTBoB >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >=20  
(back) Subject: OT: Hail Columbia!, and other goofiness. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:51:14   At 11:13 AM 10/9/2000 +0800, you wrote: > I didn't realize Columbia was no longer making records.... Did Columbia =   > merge with some other firm?<snip>   Not long ago, what was left of Columbia Records was bought out Sony of Japan. The product has, indeed, retained the Columbia name after a failed prolonged attempt to change it to "Sony Music". The "eye" trademark has also made a comeback on new product. RCA, on the other hand, is now a trademark of the insufferable Bertelsmann Music Group (BMG) of Germany, purveyors of rap and hip-hop crapola, as well as the entire RCA catalog. BMG is running the RCA trademark out of the pop music business, but is retaining "RCA Victor" for country-western and classical, as well as the old catalog. RCA's electronics business wound up owned by the French Thomsen-ESF Group, as GE didn't want internal competition to its vaunted = GE trademark, and the French wanted more access to the US retail market.   These ain't the last old American names to go "offshore", either. Watch for NEC, once a subsidiary of AT&T's Western Electric until 1938, make a run for the now-moribund AT&T, now that T's common stock has crashed below 28 after years of boneheaded management by the less-than-smart Bob Allen. New CEO Armstrong doesn't have enough fingers to plug leaks in the dike, and is alienating employees with more costly acquisitions while trashing the core business. Latest acquisition, MediaOne, is turning out to be a turkey ready for stuffing...not much left inside. Major stockholder and cutthroat TCI founder John Malone will probably broker the deal, thus destroying an old enemy while making a tidy profit off of the Japanese in the process.   Louis DeserTkeyser