PipeChat Digest #1628 - Friday, October 20, 2000
 
Re: Austin 1628 Stoplist
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
not anonymous now!
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>
Re: Organist Shortage - 4 considerations
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Organist Shortage
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: not anonymous now!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organist Shortage
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: OK, I'll take the plunge
  by <LLWheels@aol.com>
NJ Concert
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Pipe Organ feature on Channel 13- NJ?
  by "Jan S. VanDerStad" <dorian@nac.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Austin 1628 Stoplist From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:22:23   At 10:22 AM 10/19/2000 EDT, you wrote: >>32=E2=80=99 Resultant (Loud )(Actually speaks the 64' harmonic series)<= snip> >>32=E2=80=99 Reed Harmonics (Actually speaks the 64' harmonic series)<sn= ip>   No can do. A 32' stops speaks the 32' harmonic series (only the odd side of it, if stopped) There is no physical way for it to utter the 64' harmonic series. In its absolute BEST possible presentation, an acoustic "resultant" stop will produce SOME of the lower harmonic series of the resulting "fundamental" pitch component, albeit off pitch slightly owing = to temperament.   Case in point: Two 16' bourdons (for reasons of simplification) are duplexed to provide a 32' resultant. The resulting harmonic train will b= e the 32" "fundamental", usually at half-power or less (perfect resultants are only achievable under anechoic conditions), the lower pitch compoenen= t will provide the equivalent of a second harmonic, the upper pitch compone= nt will provide the third. There will be NO fourth harmonic whatsoever, except whatever tiny amount of second harmonic that might escape from the wide, arched mouth of the lower component pipe. This pipe's third harmon= ic will also provide the resultant's sixth harmonic, and the fifth harmonic will also be absent, as will be the seventh and eighth. The third harmon= ic of the upper component pipe will provide a ninth harmonic, although off pitch, and the eleventh, twelfth and thirteeth harmonic will also be missing. The fourteeth will be represented, although off pitch, and the fifteeth will also be missing.   Using an open pipe for the consonant (lower) component helps fill in a fe= w gaps, mainly the fourth, eighth and twelfth, but still leaves noticable holes for the others. Suffice it to say, that a "sub-sub-octave" train o= f harmonic would be even more full of holes, and the resultant has no way o= f producing the beating necessary to even produce the fundamental of 64' pi= tch.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: not anonymous now! From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 15:02:25 -0700   For those of you who do not already know me (as I took a long vacation = from the list during a job change period) Here are some details:   Randy Terry is my name. I am an Alabama native. I became an Episcopalian in 1984, serving Episcopal parishes in Montevallo, Birmingham, Sheffield, and Florence Alabama. I served two terms on the Episcopal Dioceses of Alabama's Department of Liturgy and Music. I also served Methodist, RC, Presbyterian and Lutheran churches in Alabama.   I moved to California in 1998 with my partner after accepting a full time church job at Christ Episcopal, Los Altos. I gave that position up when = the Rector resigned and changed my full time work to management and administration at Los Altos Methodist, in January, 2000, and am organist/director at St. Peter's Episcopal in Redwood City, where I was hired in December, 1999, but took on the active role in February, 2000.   My organ teachers have included Betty Louise Lumby, Janette Fishell, and = Tom Ed Moore. I look forward to finding an organ "coach" out here in my area = as soon as possible. I am a member of the Peninsula Chapter, AGO, and serve = as a member on the Board of Directors.   I'm hangin' in there! We are rebuilding our 1972 pipe organ at St. = Peter's, which has a wonderful acoustic and a great organ - soon to be much better! Anyone interested in that let me know and I will tell that story. Such a great change from my former position which had a very dead room and a 13 rank organ which the last stop added was a Trumpet en Chamade!   Randy Terry    
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage - 4 considerations From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:15:08 EDT   Is there really an organist shortage - or are there significant reasons = why some churches are always crying for an organist?   From my experience in the Seattle area, no church in this area will go for = a long period of time without an organist if it offers the following - put these in any order you want:   1. The opportunity to do quality music. 2. A cordial working environment - supportive staff doing its job, appreciative and contented congregation. 3. A good pipe or digital organ installation. 4. A salary equal to that of other professionals with similar training and =   responsibilities.   My experience in the Seattle area is that churches which offer the above = will have a line of qualified candidates for an organ opening. Jerry in Seattle    
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:17:04 EDT   Yup! I have the same feelings, except that mine are now relieved since I =   don't have a full-time or part-time church position any more. After = being unceremoniously fired from First Methodist - Gainesville (with two days notice), I decided to stop the church music rat race and concentrate on playing recitals and taking care of my elderly mother. The "Stories in Glass" series in a monthly recital which is all mine and provides great satisfaction. I can now enjoy worship and the products of someone else's misery as I sing in the choir and listen to the wonderful service playing = of someone else. I am much happier now. I now have time to work on writing my book, and am trying to get an e-business going (visit my webpage below!). I was very suprised that I = do not miss my role as organist and choirmaster at all. I much prefer = singing in the choir and playing recitals. It now fills ALL of my spiritual and musical needs. Sometimes we must be forced to make that big step. But = it has been worth it.     In a message dated 10/19/00 5:38:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, = randyterry@laumc.org writes:   << I have a well paying part-time (generally only Sunday morning rehearsals and service) organist/choir job = at another (Episcopal) church, but sometimes I wish I could just stay home = and rest on Sundays. Plus my AGO Board volunteer work...I NEVER stop. I = have to wake up at 5 a.m. just to have a couple of hours of "personal" time alone. I get home around 7 p.m., eat, watch a TV show or two, go to bed, and do the same thing again... Does anyone ever have the same feelings?? >>     Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . Duncan, Miles, and Molly visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: not anonymous now! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:20:05 EDT   Thanks, Randy (Terry). THat's all well and good, but what about your sex =   life!!   Just thought I'd ask!   heeheeheeheeheee (where IS my Merlot????) ;-)   Bruce . . . Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles . . . Duncan, Miles, and Molly visit CornelyCues & Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:44:08   At 10:17 PM 10/19/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Yup! I have the same feelings, except that mine are now relieved since = I >don't have a full-time or part-time church position any = more.<schniipwerk> I am much happier now.<schniipwerk> Sometimes we must be forced to make that big step. But it >has been worth it.<schiipwerk al fine>   What bReWsE sez is right on target. I remember dreading the decision not to have ANYTHING whatever to do with churches' music programs at all anymore, and thinking how I'd waste my training and whatever talent. It wasn't long before I discovered what bReWsE has. Objectively, I now see = it as a dead-end job that dumps one into one of the most unappreciated career tracks there is in this country. Of course, England, Australia, and continental Europe view things considerably differently. However, for me, it came down to "Do I want to sit in a gloomy church the rest of my life, dealing with ego-tripping pastors, politically-charged committees and tone-deaf singers, or do I want to do something positive with my life?" I've never regretted my decision, not for a moment. I know play when = >>I<< feel the need to play, can skip all that church music "drivVELL" and concentrate on the great works written for the instrument. Much better that way. Your mileage may vary.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: OK, I'll take the plunge From: <LLWheels@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:15:30 EDT   In a message dated 10/19/2000 4:36:53 PM Central Daylight Time, <support@opensystemsorgans.com> writes:   << I would also argue that talking during the prelude is not a vote on the =   music chosen by the organist, but yet another expression of the public's = lack of respect for music in general. In those churches where people talk = before the service, they talk no matter what the prelude is. >>   You are sooooooooo right!!!!!! That is why at my parish (and the last 3 = going back to 1980) the announcements come first and once people have heard the announcements and settled down, the prelude begins. This means that, generally, I need to play somewhat short pieces, but it also means that = even people who are accustomed to not listening will sit quietly and listen. It =   also means that I always, ALWAYS, post the music in the bulletin (and not = as <selected>) which usually means <not yet selected>) and attempt to relate = it to the pericopes or at least to one of the chosen hymns for the day. Even = if the music is based on a chorale or tune the congregation doesn't know, if = the title is related to the theme of the day, it points peoples thoughts in = the right direction. This also means that I translate all titles into English, =   and if the hymn is in the hymnal with a slightly different translation I = use the hymnal translation. If the hymn is in the hymnal and we are not going = to sing it at that service I also refer to the hymn number, i.e. (see hymn = 123). I also (sometimes) put a paragraph or two in the bulletin about the music = or about the composer. Congregations seem to love this; they enjoy knowing a =   little about what they are hearing. I also try to put the composers dates with their name so people have an idea when the composer lived and can put =   the music in a context. I'm sure many in the parish don't read it (unless =   the pastor is away and the sermon is boring) but when I don't do it, = people come up and ask me, and tell me they miss it.   Larry L. Wheelock Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, WI Austin Organ Co. Op. 1628, 1928 III/55    
(back) Subject: NJ Concert From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00:59 EDT   Hey All, I'm posting again to announce the first series concert at First Presbyterian Church of Trenton. This will be a concert of the best of the best from Westminster Choir College on piano, organ, and voice.   ~Saturday, October the 21st ~3 o'clock in the afternoon   Directions: -Rt. 1 into Trenton. -Take the "Perry St." Exit -Left at the Light onto Perry St. -Through 1st Light and Left at 2nd onto N. Montgomery St. -Left at 1st Light onto Hanover St. -Church lot is before shrubs on the left.     Hope to see some of you there, Pete  
(back) Subject: Pipe Organ feature on Channel 13- NJ? From: "Jan S. VanDerStad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:13:37 -0400   Good Evening, Pipechatters   At school today a fellow student told me about some sort of pipe organ feature aired on Channel 13 within the past couple of days during the evening hours. He said it was about how they built pipe organs.   Anybody have more information on this? I'm very curious to know more.   Thanks   Jan VanDerStad