PipeChat Digest #1632 - Monday, October 23, 2000 Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... by "Harold Aspgren" <Roopsmm@home.com> Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... by <KurtvonS@aol.com> Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... by "Shirley" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... by "Shirley" <email@example.com> Re: Organist shortage...... by "Colin Hulme" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Visiting Albany by "Darrell Coons" <email@example.com> Concert October 23, 2000 (cross posted) by "Bruce Dersch" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Peter Richard Conte Concert in Arkansas (Cross Posted) by "Bruce Dersch" <email@example.com> Hand Problems by "Jason Comet" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Hand Problems by <Ronnymn@aol.com> Vic Mizzy - Ghost and Mr. Chicken by "David Brown" <email@example.com> Re: Hand Problems by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Harvest Vespers by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Re: Hand Problems by <DEMPAR1@aol.com> Weigle Echterdingen (organ builder) Stuttgart by "Karl E. Moyer" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Hand Problems by "M. Hackett" <email@example.com> my new address by "Carlo Pietroniro" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Hand Problems by <RonSeverin@aol.com> Re: Hand Problems by "Adrianne Schutt" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... From: "Harold Aspgren" <Roopsmm@home.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 08:22:45 -0700 At 10:18 PM 10/21/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >Myself, I may have to move to Portland to allow me to finish my EE degree >... and I will have to learn the career there. >[me, SEA] > >Sad, to some extent ... as Seattle (Puget Sound) has more organs. I haven't explored the Seattle theater organ scene yet, but I did hear a fine Wurli in Portland's Cleveland High School a few months ago. The artist was Jonas Nordahl (SP??) who is a Portland resident. I live in Olympia, so I am certainly not geographically biased toward Portland.
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:55:44 EDT In a message dated 10/22/00 10:26:17 AM Central Daylight Time, Roopsmm@home.com writes: << I haven't explored the Seattle theater organ scene yet, but I did hear = a fine Wurli in Portland's Cleveland High School a few months ago. >> Hi Harold... That fine Wurli is a Kimball! (Mostly...)
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... From: "Shirley" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:23:07 -0400 At 10:18 PM 10/21/2000 -0700, you wrote: >All of the theatre organists I know are in their 50's ... Hokum, of >http://hokumhall.org/ is at least in his late 40's. Ohhhhh.... say it ain't so! Walt Strony is in his 50's? What about Lew Williams? --Shirley, who spent a good portion of her professional life as a theatre organist
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Shortage - considerations -- theatre ... From: "Shirley" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:25:08 -0400 At 08:22 AM 10/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: >I haven't explored the Seattle theater organ scene yet, but I did hear a >fine Wurli in Portland's Cleveland High School a few months ago. The >artist was Jonas Nordahl (SP??) who is a Portland resident. Jonas Nordwall, who's been around FOREVER... well, ok, he falls into that "over-the-hill" age category that mhev.wa was creating.... is VERY = good.... Ever hear him and Hazelton together? Great fun. --Shirley
(back) Subject: Re: Organist shortage...... From: "Colin Hulme" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 19:50:15 +0100 Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > > I > >> > > Oh, bOb.... you're such a breath of fresh cow poop!! ;-) > > bwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha > > Oh, I do like the cut and thrust of intellectual debate on this list. = <vbg> Cheers, Colin.
(back) Subject: Visiting Albany From: "Darrell Coons" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:26:12 -0400 I will be visiting the Capital District (NY) from 2-6 November and I would like to know if there are any organ concerts scheduled for that time. Thanks. Darrell
(back) Subject: Concert October 23, 2000 (cross posted) From: "Bruce Dersch" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:44:29 -0500 The Arkansas Tech University Brass Ensemble, under the direction of Gary Barrow, will present a concert of sacred music in a sacred space at St. Benedict Church, Subiaco Abbey, Subiaco, Arkansas, tomorrow evening at 7:30 p.m. It will even feature music written for St. Mark's in Venice and will be played across the transept. The accoustics of this church are superb as many list members already know and this should be a thrilling concert. My only disappointment is that we could not do anything with the organs (Wicks/Simpson and Nichols, 1999 on the East Wall, and a Kilgen tracker in the balcony) since I have been busily preparing for my elder daughter's wedding in New Jersey this week, but there is always next year. If you want directions or information call me at 501-934-1276. (I will not be at my computer tomorrow and I have no access to email on the job.) If any list members do attend, please say hello. with regards, Bruce Dersch
(back) Subject: Peter Richard Conte Concert in Arkansas (Cross Posted) From: "Bruce Dersch" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 18:44:34 -0500 Just a quick reminder that Peter Richard Conte, the Wanamaker Court Organist, will be making his Arkansas debut at St. Benedict Church, Subiaco Abbey, Subiaco, Arkansas on Tuesday, November 7, at 7:30 p.m. It will be interesting to see him put the Wicks/Simpson Nicholas, 1999, III/32 with electronic additions through its paces. There will be a reception following in the the Performing Arts Center. I would ask that list members please come say hello and maybe someone would even be so kind to write a review for the list. As always, all concerts are free but we will accept donations to defray the cost of extinquishing the silence. (We finally found out who the donor is, who is defraying the cost of all of the recitals since the dedication of the organ last year, but I am under a death threat not to tell what I know!) regards, Bruce Dersch
(back) Subject: Hand Problems From: "Jason Comet" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:13:41 EDT I have had a problem woth my Right hand appear. From my little finger (mostly around the base of the finger) down through to my wrist. Throbbing pain. I play Broadway scores on a very bad acoustic upright piano with the ring and little finger playing the melody, do a lot of computer work, do a lot = of writing, moved about a 1/2 ton of stones to expand my drive way yesterday, = eat a lot of microvave popcorn with my right hand, and do a lot of = intricate things (such as solder wires and fix contacts on organ relay switches and note relays). No, I do not grip the steering wheel while driving. Has anyone else had this problem??? I have a glove-brace on right now and that has helped keep it supported. I just hope I'm not developing an early form of Carpeltunnel!!! Jason Comet _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: <Ronnymn@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:51:31 EDT I have had similar problems and now do all my computer "mouse" work with = my left hand-it has helped and doesn't take that long to get proficeint at = it.
(back) Subject: Vic Mizzy - Ghost and Mr. Chicken From: "David Brown" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 20:51:21 -0500 Hello.... I am not an organ player myself. I am writing to the group asking for some help / advice. Where I live in Dallas, Tx., Halloween is BIG. We had over four thousand trick or treaters last year alone!!! We have constructed a fake pipe = organ that is erected each year at Halloween. It plays scary music (from hidden speakers in the rear). It plays Bach and other scary sounding stuff. I have been trying over three years to get what I really want - Vic = Mizzy's organ theme from the "Ghost and Mr. Chicken" movie. I think it is PERFECT haunted house organ music. I'm trying to find someone who can play / record this on a Roland, Korg, Yamaha, etc. and then I can have a synthesizer replay it each Halloween. = Is this feasible? Where should I go about finding someone who could do this? Thanks in advance!!! Dave Brown
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Get to a doctor right away, Jason. It could be bad tendinitis or it could be carpel tunnel syndrome. I doubt the popcorn has anything to do with it. I would say your computer work and your keyboard work are the primary contributing factors. There are mousepads that have built-in rests for the wrist -- invest in one, it has helped me a lot!! Before you play piano or organ for any length of time, you should do such things as twiddle your thumbs (I kid you not), run your hands and wrists under warm water for a few moments, and do scales and arpeggios to limber up. First and foremost, get to a doctor and do what he or she says to do. I've had tendinitis and it's no fun, but when I stopped working at the bank (computer all day), most of my tendinitis stopped with it. Cheers, and God bless. Neil B
(back) Subject: Harvest Vespers From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Friends: Following is the format for the "Harvest Vespers" held at my church this evening (Sunday). We had a very nice crowd and the spirit of worship was very real and meaningful. Our youth choir, Singspirations, and the Fellowship Bell Choir supplied the musical portions. Our senior pastor was gracious enough to be liturgist. This was one of my hybrid services that seems to hit the spot here. It was a truly delightful Autumn day here at the Jersey Shore. Blessings on you all. Neil First United Methodist Church Toms River, New Jersey, USA HARVEST VESPERS Singspirations Fellowship Bells Neil Brown, organist/director Bruce Quigley, liturgist Prelude: "We thank you, Lord Jesus" (W. F. Bach); Processional: "Filled with the Spirit" (Antonio Caldara/arr. by M. Burkhardt), bells and choir; Greeting; Hymn of Praise: "Come, Ye Thankful People, Come" (St. George Windsor); Evening Prayer; Lesson: I Corinthians 10:1-13; silent confession and prayer; Pardon; Lord's Prayer; Hymn of Faith: "I Want to Walk as a Child of the Light" (Houston); Lesson: Matthew 16:13-20; Choir: "Holy, Holy, Holy" (F. Schubert); Litany for the Church and the World; Anthem: "Seek Ye First" (K. Lafferty/J. Pachelbel/arr. D. Wagner) choir/bells; Prayer for Fruits of the Earth; Prayer for the Harvest; Offertory Prayer; Offertory: "Ring to the Lord of Harvest" (Sharon Rogers) bells; Hymn of Gratitude: "For the Beauty of the Earth" (Dix) -- stanza 1, all; st. 2, women; st. 3, men; st. 4, choir; st. 5&6, all; all on refrain each time. organ interlude between each stanza; Litany of Thanksgiving; Hymn of Thanks: "Now Thank We All Our God" (Nun Danket); Benediction; Choral Response: "Amen III" (N. Brown); Recessional: Bells/Organ Improv. The bell choir played the accomp to the Caldara piece while I worked an improv around it.
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: <DEMPAR1@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:40:19 EDT Sounds like Carpal Tunnel to me Jason. I played music for 40 years and = never had a problem until I started using a computer. Now I have tingling in my fingers and pain in my wrists and shoulders on a regular basis. Medical = tests have confirmed it's not stroke, heart or muscular disease related. I = suggest you consult a good orthopedic surgeon.
(back) Subject: Weigle Echterdingen (organ builder) Stuttgart From: "Karl E. Moyer" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Can anyone tell me anything about Weigle Echterdingen of Stuttgart? I came upon a two-manual tubular-pneumatic of 21 ranks in St. Michael Church, Pfeffingen, south of Stuttgart in Baden-Wuerttemberg, Opus 691, built in 1932 and restored in 1999 to quite good condition. Thanks. Cordially, Dr. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: "M. Hackett" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 22:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Computer keyboards and mice, because of their minimal impact mature -- lead to Carpel Tunnel like conditions. Use your keyboard and mouse sparingly, and consider consuming less wheat products. Wheat products, if consumed in greater quantities than people have consumed them in the past 3k years -- can lead to Arthritis ... an autoimmune problem. > Sounds like Carpal Tunnel to me Jason. I played music for 40 years and = never > had a problem until I started using a computer. Now I have tingling in = my > fingers and pain in my wrists and shoulders on a regular basis. Medical = tests > have confirmed it's not stroke, heart or muscular disease related. I = suggest > you consult a good orthopedic surgeon.
(back) Subject: my new address From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 02:52:57 -0400 effective immediately, my new address is email@example.com. No more hotmail, and that makes me very happy.
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 03:08:17 EDT Hi Jason: I experienced something similar on my left hand, the index finger. The whole hand went numb at one point while practicing a left hand part alone. A pain shot from my neck to the shoulder blade, and down the arm to the hand. Subsequent xray photos showed calcium deposits in the neck which impaired nerves to the arm and hand. After 2 1/2 years of Chiropractic treatment most of the damage was relieved. That was four years ago. I still have a small amount of numbness in the index finger, but it hasn't affected it's use in playing the organ, it's a nuisence mostly. A second injury resulted in elbow pain and a numb little finger. Both have improved greatly over time. The little finger felt like it had rubber bands wrapped around it, and ice on the elbow brought the feeling back. What caused all this according to the Dr.'s who treated me? Unergonomic music racks causing the positioning of the neck to cut off nerve flow. Sitting properly on the bench to play the pedals exasperated the problem. These are music racks placed too high, and sitting too long practicing in that position. Advancing age in my case didn't help, as pads between the bones of the neck get thinner, and cause rubbing and irritation of the motor nerves to the arms and hands. Wearing a watch on the left wrist cut nerve flow even more. I've moved the watch to the right wrist and the left hand has steadily improved over a relatively short time. This is not an uncommon problem according to the Dr.'s I talked to Re: organists and pianists who practice long and hard. Do shorter stints and save your valuable hands for another day. (I'm 58 years old) Regards to all, Ron Severin
(back) Subject: Re: Hand Problems From: "Adrianne Schutt" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 04:29:45 -0400 At 09:13 PM 10/22/00 -0400, Jason wrote: >Has anyone else had this problem??? Once my typing speed got up past the 30wpm mark, I started having = pain from my hands up through my forearms. Switching to one of those ergonomic keyboards was the best $100 I've ever sunk into my puter.....completely solved the problem. Took a few months to find the backspace key without looking, but now I'm able to hit 90wpm with no problems (yes, I do spend a lot of time at the computer...how did you guess? ;->). If you do decide to try one out, a word of caution....all ergo keyboards are *not* created equal. Recently, I had to replace my (3 year old, huge, but comfy) first-generation MS Natural board with a smaller version to fit into the keyboard area of the new workstation in my home office. After looking at several, I took home two finalists for an A/B test--the new MS Natural Elite (now $50cdn, tiny, and sporting truly bizarre home/end and cursor key bank arrangements) and Logitech's Cordless = Desktop Pro ($200cdn with matching cordless mouse, and with standard = cursor key bank arrangement). What I was dismayed to find out was how Logitech got the Desktop Pro to fit in a standard keyboard tray without rearranging the cursor keys = we can all hit in our sleep. Their approach was to shove the alphabet key = banks ~2cm closer together than Microsoft's, and keep the Windows keys tiny. Much as I wanted this board to work well, the angle those few centimetres put on my wrists was EXTREMELY uncomfortable. After 5 minutes = with it, aching forearms made me walk away from the computer for the evening. $200 out the window, and I might just as well have been using a straight board. You can bet it went back to Staples the next day. As for the new MS Elite.... <sigh> The original board put in 3 years of very hard labor (to the point of having grooves worn in by my hands), but the new one's falling apart after less than 2 months. The space bar has developed an intermittent 'dry hinge' squeak, but the piece de resistance is the shift key.....which seems to get stuck on each and every time I type a smiley. I've lost track of how many times I've accidentally "yelled" at someone on IRC as a result. And yes, the "new, improved" layout for the home/end/etc and cursor keys IS a proper pain in the tush to get used to. I still hit the wrong key ~50% of the time. If it doesn't improve soon, I'm tempted to rebuild the new desk to fit the old keyboard! lol Have fun! Ad ;->