PipeChat Digest #1600L - Monday, September 18, 2000
 
Re: Old Mollers, Old & New Casavants
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
23 Sep NYC AGO Organ/Architecture Tour
  by "M Collins" <mcoll@panix.com>
A few questions for our Canadian friends
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Romantic Organ Music Market Survey - Results
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Mollers in Canada
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: A few questions for our Canadian friends
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com>
IRC Reminder
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Single pipe plays whole tune! A new invention?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Old Mollers, Old & New Casavants
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Moller Organs!
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
Re: Moller Organs!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Single pipe plays whole tune! A new invention?
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Re: Moller Organs!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Organ Reform, and Companies like Moller, Casavant
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE: lost builders
  by "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org>
Re: Organ Reform, and Companies like Moller, Casavant
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: Moller Organs! more comments about an "old friend"
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Old Mollers, Old & New Casavants From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:10:37 -0400   At 01:49 AM 9/18/00 EDT, Ron wrote:   >I hope they move back to the building >and tonal practices that made them famous on both sides of the border. The >Father and the two brothers were geniuses.=20   Hi, Y'all!   In all truthfulness, I've only heard a few "old" Casavants. But I've heard quite a few of the pre-Coignet Casavants (organs from the early 70's through the 80's) and have found them to be underwhelming.=20   But, if the Casvant at St. George's in Nashville and the wonderful organ at Broadway Baptist in Fort Worth are examples of the kind of organs they CAN build, then give me a new Casavant! They are wonnnnnnnnnnderful. Louis Robillard's performance at Broadway last year at the Cavaill=E9-Coll Symposium is still in my ear. The organ allowed him to play at the best of his creativity and musical sensitivity. His Franck "b minor" was the best I've ever heard. Ever. Y'all shoulda been there!=20   BTW, I like the expression E-org. I think it sounds a lot nicer than plug-in or toaster, and let's face it, e-orgs are here to stay and are a part of our life. Just the other day, I was called to a local funeral home to play a service. Guess what they had? The venerable C-3. Don't groan, it was far better than most of the plug-ins in the funeral homes down here. And most of these little things are not worthy of the e-org expression.=20   Yours,=20   Darryl by the Sea            
(back) Subject: 23 Sep NYC AGO Organ/Architecture Tour From: "M Collins" <mcoll@panix.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:33:30 -0400 (EDT)     Any New York City area PipeChatters planning on attending the annual Organ & Architecture tour next Saturday (23 Sep 00)?   Tour includes St. John the Divine (w/Dorothy Papadakos), Riverside Church, Corpus Christi Church, Chapel of St. Luke's Hospital Center (with a 1950 Moller, for those interested in hearing an example of a recent PipeChat discussion), and the Church of Notre Dame at Columbia Univ. (a 1928 Casavant, ditto).   see http://www.nycago.org/home.html for details.   --- Matthew C.   --- mcoll@panix.com -----------------------------------------------------    
(back) Subject: A few questions for our Canadian friends From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:55:58 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0036_01C0214E.436C2360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Bob, Adrienne, Pat, and everybody else, I'm hoping you can help me out =3D with a few questions.   First of all, what is the university that is affiliated with the Calgary = =3D International Organ Festival, and does anybody know anything about that = =3D university (ie, degrees offered, reputation, etc.)?   Secondly, this is a -completely- random question. I don't know if anyone = =3D has heard St. Mary's (I think) in Inuvik, NT. It's the church that was =3D built to resemble an igloo (architecturally, pretty neat!). Does anyone = =3D know if that church has an organ, and if so, what builder?=3D20   I will be in Alberta (Edmonton, Calgary and Lake Louise) from October =3D 9-17 if anyone around there wants to get together!   Thanks, everyone!   -Rebekah   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0036_01C0214E.436C2360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Bob, Adrienne, Pat, and everybody else, I'm hoping = =3D you can=3D20 help me out with a few questions.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>First of all, what is the university that is =3D affiliated with=3D20 the Calgary International Organ Festival, and does anybody know anything = =3D about=3D20 that university (ie, degrees offered, reputation, etc.)?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Secondly, this is a -completely- random question. I = =3D don't know=3D20 if anyone has heard St. Mary's (I think) in Inuvik, NT. It's the church = =3D that was=3D20 built to resemble an igloo (architecturally, pretty neat!). Does anyone = =3D know if=3D20 that church has an organ, and if so, what builder? </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>I will be in Alberta (Edmonton, Calgary and Lake =3D Louise) from=3D20 October 9-17 if anyone around there wants to get together!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Thanks, everyone!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>-Rebekah</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0036_01C0214E.436C2360--    
(back) Subject: Romantic Organ Music Market Survey - Results From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:33:17 -0500   You may remember that ten days ago or so, I posted a message in order to   help me decide whether or not to begin republishing some volumes of "romantic" organ music. Thanks to those who responded.   Based upon the answers I received, I have decided to proceed with the project. Watch this space (and other, traditional sources--e.g. "The Diapason", TAO, "Choir & Organ," etc.)   There were questions raised about my choice of medium for the project. I was motivated to consider the project for several reasons, among which were the fact that the copies of the particular volumes of the collection I saw, were showing definite signs of wear, and also had a distinct lack of availability. I believe that by re-engraving the volumes, and republishing them on CD-ROM, there will be a continued availability, and a positive step will be made towards preserving the music (and other "information"), as well as making it more widely accessible.   To those who asked why I was not considering publishing hard-copies of the material, the short answer is, "I did". My economic analysis is that in trying to publish bound editions, the feasibility of the project disappears. The fact is that the greater part of the work involved in the project is involved with preparing the re-engraving. This is a lesser part of the cost involved, however, which are orders of magnitude greater for printed editions than editions published on CD-ROM. Besides this consideration, my plans at the moment are to try to satisfy as many people as possible with regards to format, so everyone, regardless of whether they prefer "Landscape" or (oversize) "portrait" format can have the music in the format with which they feel most comfortable. Finally, there is a "green" consideration to publication on CD-ROM: no resources are wasted on preparing material for any particular purchasor that the purchaser does not intend to play, and yet the material is available for review.   As to editorial practices: the works will be re-engraved, but editing will be minimal, and all changes made will be documented.   Again, thanks to all who responded. More details about the project will be forthcoming at a later date.   Noel Stoutenburg Dallas, TX    
(back) Subject: Mollers in Canada From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:17:05 -0400   According to the US & Canada Organ Database compiled by George Nelson, there were 5 Moller pipe organs installed in Quebec Province, Canada, = dated 1919, 1956, 1957 (2), and 1966. One in Montreal in the Loew's Theatre, a new 1919 3M. 57ranks. A salesman must have been up there too, or they were recycled from somewhere! Also 2 Aeolians dated 1921 and 1928, several Wurlitzers (some recycled), a Kimball and a Marklove. There are also Hooks and a Johnson from ealier times. And don't forget that Samuel Warren, one of the first American organbuilders, was born in Woonsocket, Rhode Island. he built a prodigeous number of parish pipe organs in Quebec and Ontario = in the middle 1800's. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: A few questions for our Canadian friends From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 10:58:59 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_433766015= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 08:55 18/09/2000 -0400, Rebekah asked > (SNIP) > >First of all, what is the university that is affiliated with the Calgary >International Organ Festival, and does anybody know anything about that >university (ie, degrees offered, reputation, etc.)? > I do not believe that this Festival has any University affiliation. The = web site is <www..ciof.com> and it goes into considerable detail on the Festival and the organization behind it. I believe the University of Calgary has an organ program; you might try a search on <www.google.com> Also I believe there is one other institution the detail of which escapes me right now.   HD     --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_433766015= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 08:55 18/09/2000 -0400,&nbsp; Rebekah asked<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite><font size=3D2>&nbsp;(SNIP)</font><br> &nbsp;<br> <font size=3D2>First of all, what is the university that is affiliated = with the Calgary International Organ Festival, and does anybody know anything about that university (ie, degrees offered, reputation, etc.)?</font><br> &nbsp;</blockquote><font size=3D2>I do not believe that this Festival has any University affiliation. The web site is &lt;<a href=3D"http://www..ciof.com/" = eudora=3D"autourl">www..ciof.com</a>&gt; and it goes into considerable detail on the Festival and the organization behind it.<br> I believe the University of Calgary has an organ program; you might try a search on &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.google.com/" = eudora=3D"autourl">www.google.</a><a href=3D"http://www.google.com/" = eudora=3D"autourl">com</a>&gt; Also I believe there is one other institution the detail of which escapes me right now.<br> <br> HD<br> </font><br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_433766015= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
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(back) Subject: Single pipe plays whole tune! A new invention? From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:28:48 -0400   Found this on Ebay - it's amazing how the "unwashed" fall all over themselves to market a poor lost pipe - or maybe it's a new invention? this seller also lists 100 "organ pins" for sale (toes) *********************************** Handsome old wood pipe (box like) from an old pipe organ. Unique "angled" top section, very nice shiney finish.   Stands approx. 56" tall with the 6" tubular base. Square pipe section 50" x 3 3/4" wide x 4 1/2" deep. Upper section (about 7") angled straight out towards the front on a 90 degree angle. Beautifully crafted of wood 1/2" thick.   Great for Antiquers, Crafters, Music Lovers, decoration, be = creative!   Clear wood finish of medium stain showing wood grain. Very nice condition, there are a few minor surface scratches from wear. Great structural condition overall. Stamped on the upper portion is "Stop Diap, C". An older hand written "Stop Diap" in pencil is on the bottom as well as a number "1633". There is no date stamp but it does look old, probably from the early 1900's but can't confirm.   On the front lower end of the pipe section there is an inward = carved 1 3/4" bevel to a thin edged "curved" opening approx. 2 5/8" wide x 1 5/8" high. The top of the pipe has a wood stop (6" knob) to adjust the tune. The hollow wood base, for airflow, has a metal cap(probably lead,be careful).   * A beautiful piece of past craftsmanship. Makes a great deep tune!*   Check our other auctions of old pipe organ collectibles.   Please let us know of any questions. Payment must be received in 10 days of close. If paying by check, must clear before sending. Thank you.      
(back) Subject: Re: Old Mollers, Old & New Casavants From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:56:55   At 07:10 PM 9/17/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Guess what they had? The venerable C-3. Don't groan, it >was far better than most of the plug-ins in the funeral homes down here. >And most of these little things are not worthy of the e-org = expression.<snip>   Can't fault a Hammond for being a Hammond! You know what to expect, and, if you've spent any time learning harmonic structure, you can be quite = able to make usable tones on one. I'd take a tonewheel Hammond over ANY = funeral home "schpinette", ANYday!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organs! From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:20:06 +0100     The only Moller that I have heard (to my knowledge) is the Ex-BBC Reggie Foort instrument.Anyone one care to comment on that one?   Cheers,   Colin.  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organs! From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:57:38   At 06:20 PM 9/18/2000 +0100, you wrote: >The only Moller that I have heard (to my knowledge) is the Ex-BBC Reggie >Foort instrument.Anyone one care to comment on that one?<snip>   A rare one, indeed. M=F6ller got into the "unit orchestra" business afte= r watching the success of Wurlitzers, and scored a few major installations, the most notable being the Atlanta Fox. The Reggie Foort instrument was about the last of that breed for M=F6ller, and unique, as it was designed= to be a "traveling" organ. It is QUITE loud as it is now installed in the Pasadena Civic Auditorium in Pasadena, CA, after its rescue from "pizza duty" in San Diego.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Single pipe plays whole tune! A new invention? From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:05:36 EDT   *L* and "UH!!!!"   it's amazing how "uneducated" people don't know what a pipe is. Those are =   the kind of people that you don't want to have on your organ committee.   100 "organ PINS"!!!! give me a break......   Yes, I feel pipes are beautiful, but after all, they're just PIPES.   It's also funny how people try to charge hundreds of dollars for one = single wooden organ pipe. If it's big enough, make it a CD holder with a hinged front. I've done it and I've got several on my walls in my music room.   *L*   Jason Comet   >From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Single pipe plays whole tune! A new invention? >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:28:48 -0400 > >Found this on Ebay - it's amazing how the "unwashed" fall all over >themselves to market a poor lost pipe - or maybe it's a new invention? >this seller also lists 100 "organ pins" for sale (toes) >*********************************** >Handsome old wood pipe (box like) from an old pipe organ. Unique "angled" >top section, very nice shiney finish. > > Stands approx. 56" tall with the 6" tubular base. Square pipe >section 50" x 3 3/4" wide x 4 1/2" deep. Upper section (about > 7") angled straight out towards the front on a 90 degree angle. >Beautifully crafted of wood 1/2" thick. > > Great for Antiquers, Crafters, Music Lovers, decoration, be >creative! > > Clear wood finish of medium stain showing wood grain. Very nice >condition, there are a few minor surface scratches from > wear. Great structural condition overall. Stamped on the upper >portion is "Stop Diap, C". An older hand written "Stop > Diap" in pencil is on the bottom as well as a number "1633". = There >is no date stamp but it does look old, probably from the > early 1900's but can't confirm. > > On the front lower end of the pipe section there is an inward >carved >1 3/4" bevel to a thin edged "curved" opening approx. 2 > 5/8" wide x 1 5/8" high. The top of the pipe has a wood stop (6" >knob) to adjust the tune. The hollow wood base, for airflow, > has a metal cap(probably lead,be careful). > > * A beautiful piece of past craftsmanship. Makes a great deep = tune!* > > Check our other auctions of old pipe organ collectibles. > > Please let us know of any questions. Payment must be received in = 10 >days of close. If paying by check, must clear before > sending. Thank you. > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organs! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:09:58 EDT   In a message dated 9/18/00 2:42:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << You haven't heard the Glatter-G=F6tz or Rosales (or both) hair curlers ye= t,=20 have ya? God LORD, those guys must be DEAF! I take ear protection to hear=20 any of 'em. >>   Good grief! Bob. Get out and hear some other organs. You'll discover tha= t=20 most new organs of any action are too loud these days. The problem is NOT=20 the action.   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Reform, and Companies like Moller, Casavant From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:10:00 EDT   In a message dated 9/18/00 3:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes:   << The organ reform movement sowed the seeds of decline to a once proud industry, and destroyed or reduced to a shell most of the big factories. Aeolian/Skinner, Moller, Whirlitzer, Kilgen, Hillgreen-Lane, Kimball, Gress-Miles, and many others gone! Estey, gone! It was sad to watch too. = >>   I notice that Austin was omitted from the list, as well it should be. Austin, IMHO, is probably the most tonally stable builder on the = continent. In my ears, the "Austin sound" has not significantly changed during my = life time. I have played Austin organs from the teens and twenties, that were graced with very thin strings and wide flutes and diapasons, and also = Austin organs from the fifties in which the tonalities were moving back toward = the middle. And in recent years have heard Austin's version of neo-classic which, still, was recognizable as distinctly Austin. The common link through all of these instruments is a richness and warmth unique to = Austin. A-S had a distinct sound, but lost it. Old Moller's as well, has a = distinct (even pleasant!) sound whcih they also lost. Austin somehow has managed = to keep this signature sound, and are to be commended for it. I really like = an instrument that is unique and has a "stamp" on it, especially tonally.   Bruce Cremona502@cs.com in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles visit the Cornely pack at Howling Acres: Ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: RE: lost builders From: "Randy Terry" <randyterry@laumc.org> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:41:00 -0700     I deleted a bunch of messages about this topic this morning so forgive. A few thoughts: I don't have a lot of experience with newer Austin organs, but I do think Austin's qualities are significant. The 1958 20 rank 2 manual I took my first lessons had four 8's, 2 4's (one a Quintaton) and a III Mixture 2' on the great, but down in the room a gorgeous sound. What = I always *wish* I heard in "American Classic" organs. Significantly 8' oriented in both the swell and great, with big "English" reeds, but = nothing "fat" at all. Small though it is, it all worked tonally and mechanically. The only major work that has been done on it in the 20 years I've known it was releathering the reservoirs (located inside the 4' high walk in = chest).   I've played LOT's more Mollers. Most dissapointed with the 1970's era, = but the instruments they were putting out by the time they had to close all = had a certain character that was distinguishing. I am very fond of the = Moller's from the 50's and early 60's as well. Have not played a large Moller from the 20's or 30's.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Reform, and Companies like Moller, Casavant From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:07:50 -0400   At 04:10 PM 9/18/00 -0400, Bruce wrote: Aw, com'on guys. I don't know about the others, but as a supply organist who has played many Mollers and practiced during her formative years on = one that was the class act at her school (others were stripped-down theatre organs assembled by now-defunct Newcomer) (hi, Jane!), I can say the organ =   reform movement didn't have anything to do with it. Moller flourished because it submitted the low bid on every project between Philadelphia and =   Raleigh and was the place to go for an entry-level organ. It just wasn't the place to go for your second organ or rebuild of the first one.   >In a message dated 9/18/00 3:57:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >RonSeverin@aol.com writes: > ><< The organ reform movement sowed the seeds of decline to a once proud >industry, and destroyed or reduced to a shell most of the big factories. >Aeolian/Skinner, Moller, Whirlitzer, Kilgen, Hillgreen-Lane, Kimball, >Gress-Miles, and many others gone! Estey, gone! It was sad to watch too. = >> > >I notice that Austin was omitted from the list, as well it should be. >Austin, IMHO, is probably the most tonally stable builder on the = continent. >In my ears, the "Austin sound" has not significantly changed during my = life >time. I have played Austin organs from the teens and twenties, that were >graced with very thin strings and wide flutes and diapasons, and also = Austin >organs from the fifties in which the tonalities were moving back toward = the >middle. And in recent years have heard Austin's version of neo-classic >which, still, was recognizable as distinctly Austin. The common link >through all of these instruments is a richness and warmth unique to = Austin. >A-S had a distinct sound, but lost it. Old Moller's as well, has a = distinct >(even pleasant!) sound whcih they also lost. Austin somehow has = managed to >keep this signature sound, and are to be commended for it. I really = like an >instrument that is unique and has a "stamp" on it, especially tonally.    
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Organs! more comments about an "old friend" From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:04:42 EDT   In a message dated 00-09-17 17:04:16 EDT, you write:   << I think some major work has been done on the rear gallery organ recently, but I haven't been over = there in a while. I presume the positiv (or ruckpositiv) was moved to make way = for a big sculpture that was to be hung on that railing. >> In a conversation a couple of years ago with the former curator of the "Shrine" organ i was told that the ruckpositiv divisions were relocated to =   the gallery because of the difficulty in maintaining the divisions, which were originally 'hung' on the gallery front wall (about 35 to 40 ft above = the main floor) and the reservoirs which needed re-leathering were under the chests inside the cases of the RP wree not accessable. And the fact that = the rear walls were due to be marbled (concluding a project which easily = covered a 20 plus year span) was likely another reason to relocate the disivions = up into the gallery.   Regarding it's ability to be LOUD, one very good reason for self-restraint = on the over use of the Pontifical Trompette (voiced on 25" wind pressure) is that it is just above eyeball level when you are seated at the console...kinda like looking down the barrel of a bronze bazooka!!   Incidentally, the "Cardinal Spellman" designation must be something new, = as the organ was originally gifted by the U.S. Conference of Bishops (if = memory serves me rightly) at a cost of $250,000 in 1964 when it was dedicated.Somewhere in my piles of stuff, I have a dedication program from =   the organ witht the comments form MOller, the architects, and the = dedication recital programs.   Rick M Staunton VA