PipeChat Digest #1358 - Saturday, April 22, 2000
 
Re: Liberation
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Almanac
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Liberation
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Liberation
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: The discussions are getting ludicrous!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: secular organs (X-posted)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Liberation
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: In the Mall
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Re: organs in schools
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Gossip
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Where to get Conn 652 Tech Manual
  by "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net>
RE: Liberation
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Where to get Conn 652 Tech Manual
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: In the Mall
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: organs in schools
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Liberation
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
RE: Liberation
  by "Bert Atwood" <atwoody@ispchannel.com>
Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net>
plexi-glass shades
  by "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com>
Re: organs in schools
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Plexi-Glass shades
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: In the Mall
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: organs in schools
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Liberation From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:55:21 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 12:42:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tmbovard@arkansas.net writes:   << So, now we've cycled back to the beginning: where do we start to = build interest in the Organ and Organ Music within the "general public"?? = >>   As mentioned, education is a key ingredient. So the most obvious place = to put pipe organs would be in schools. Schools are public building, open = to everyone. The new hitch is that current building often do not have an auditorium, but rather a multipurpose cafeteria/auditorium/baseball diamond/basketball court/etc.   Another interesting place to put pipe organs would be in libraries and museums, both of which could live with the good acoustics desireable for organ music. However, there would need to be "practice claviers" = around, since practice time in public building, much like RC churches, would be at = a premium, unless you're night owls and have keys.     Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Almanac From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:52:23 -0500   > On April 21, R. A. Campbell, <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>, referred to: > > ...<snip>...ALMANACm-subscribe@egroups.com   to which Glenda responded   > Clicking on this prompts an e-mail window - is there some response that = one > must make to "log on"?   Did you try sending the email? Since the domain "egroups" is almost all = email lists, I am guessing that the empty email with your email address is the = method of subscribing.   ns      
(back) Subject: Re: Liberation From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:05:50 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 2:10:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << True, true. It just seems that there are far better places for = #500 to go into where it could attract a larger number of potential listeners. = NO one's going to the Embarcadero for an organ recital, believe me...not without carrying an Uzi, anyway. >>   Well, if the organ has a good "cannon fire" stop, or police sirenes, a = couple of measures might bring things under control. ;-)     I do agree that *some* current churches do have show-worthy instruments = and promote them actively.   I've just received two videos of the dedicatory recitals on the = Glatter-Goetz at Claremont UCC by Daniel Roth and Carey Coker-Robertson. As I watched =   the video and listened to the music I thought "how luck these people are = to worship with this organ every week!" It is so stunning and looks like it =   just emerges from its surroundings. And sounds good, to boot. I = realize it's a recording, but the chamades (another thread) came through by = tonality and not volume. I enjoyed watching both players very much. Daniel = Roth was great fun to watch play. Carey Coker-Roberton looked as though she = was really enjoying herself, even though her physical movement was more conservative. I recommend these videos highly.   Also, the literature played is wonderful.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Liberation From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:07:32 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 2:10:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = PipeLuvr@aol.com writes:   << > Wake up folks! The first rule of marketing is find out what your = public wants! >>   Good point. How do find out what the public wants and which pieces they liked or did not like.... score cards, telephone surveys??? or the = tried and true method (gossip!!) ;-)   Seriously, any suggestions.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: The discussions are getting ludicrous! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:09:26 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 2:29:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, opus1100@catoe.org writes:   << AMEN >>   Ah! That's the idea. Controversial and thought-provoking! (although brief and to the point)   hehehehehehehe   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: secular organs (X-posted) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:10:54 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 2:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << >to find out in 1999 that it was all a system for the Nazis to pass = nuke >>secrets back and forth between Berlin and Los Alamos during the hieght = of >>the Manhattan Project. > >>   Yeah! They did it by stuffing notes into Schpinette broomsticks!!! BBWWWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Liberation From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:12:10 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 3:00:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << I do, however, take exception to his >characterization of Buxtehude's chorale preludes as "drivel."<snip> Not "drivel"..."driv-VELL"! It's BrewSe's word...ask him! >>   ONLY if played on equal-distemperament!!! ;-)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: In the Mall From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:45:14 PDT     >A well designed mechanical action organ in a mall would give people >not >only >something to hear to some really neat stuff to look at. The voicing > >could >allow for performance of modern pop styles.   Wow, a tracker organ in a mall... Could play Tom Petty and Buxtehude.   If it was build in a plexiglass case _with decent looking pipework_ (no cheapo common metal pipes that look like they came out of someone's old = air conditioning ductwork) so people could see all the goings-on inside it = would be wonderful.   This is making me think maybe my 3 rank theater organ ought to be a = tracker with plexiglass case.   Very easy to get decent looking pipework if all the pipes are wood (my personal bias)   >Burying organs in chambers is >baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.   First rule of engineering: if something needs periodic maintneance and tweaking, put it somewhere that is easily accessible and configured so it can be taken apart and put back together easily.   >People then get the impression that the >organ is >the console, and don't develop appreciation for the pipes that make the >beautiful sound.   Making it all the easier for these digital organ companies to sell them a console with a couple speakers.   DG   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: organs in schools From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:50:53 PDT   >but rather a multipurpose cafeteria/auditorium/baseball >diamond/basketball court/etc.   No problem... place pipes in the ceiling and have occasional lunchtime concerts while the kiddies are eating, musical interludes during halftime = at the games, etc. This is in my mind even better than an auditorium (which = I fear would not be so condicive to "non-serious" and incidental music.)   >Another interesting place to put pipe organs would be in libraries.   I agree, but ya know libraries are supposed to be fairly quiet   Librarian: "Sshhhhhhhh!!!"   >and >museums, both of which could live with the good acoustics desireable for >organ music.   Palace of the Legion of Honor museum in San Fran. has a huge Skinner (?) organ, recently refurbished. Concerts every sunday afternoon in the main hall.   >However, there would need to be "practice claviers" around, >since practice time in public building, much like RC churches, would be = at >a >premium, unless you're night owls and have keys.   This is where the electronic organs are useful... Most of the time = practice on them, when you have something really good to show off to the public you =   get a turn at the real thing.   DG   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Gossip From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:53:26 PDT   >or the tried >and true method (gossip!!) ;-)   Actually gossip is best. Before I brought my 3 colleagues to the OCTOS concert no one in the computer science department knew the instrument existed. After the concert they told all their friends how = great it was. I expect the next concert invite I issue will have several more takers.   We're on a budget here folks so bringing your friends and building up a critical mass is the way to publicize for the moment.   DG   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Where to get Conn 652 Tech Manual From: "Bill Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:16:55 -0700   I have a Conn 652 and need a technical manual (circuit diagrams, etc.) for =   it. Where is a good place to obtain same?   Bill    
(back) Subject: RE: Liberation From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:11:24   At 12:13 PM 4/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: >I must disagree with your Uzi comment. Having worked at One Market for = 18 >years<schnippo al fine>   Oh? You worked for SP?   dB  
(back) Subject: Re: Where to get Conn 652 Tech Manual From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:41:24 -0500   At 4/22/00 02:16 PM, you wrote: >I have a Conn 652 and need a technical manual (circuit diagrams, etc.) = for >it. Where is a good >place to obtain same?   Hi, Bill!   You should check into the e-org mailing list -- I bet someone there could help. Unfortunately I don't have the URL handy to pass on...DeserTBob, = are you around this afternoon??   Tim    
(back) Subject: Re: In the Mall From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:42:04   At 01:45 PM 4/22/2000 PDT, you wrote: >If it was build in a plexiglass case<snip>   Watch out for this trap. Lotsa pizza joints did this, and with glass, and wound up with some really awful instruments in the process.   Window panes of either glass or Plexiglas=AE flex very well with low frequency soundwaves, and can cause severe cancellations at these frequencies unless done right.   >This is making me think maybe my 3 rank theater organ ought to be a tracker= =20 >with plexiglass case.<snip>   :::trying to retrieve that "This is getting ridiculous" thread::::   >First rule of engineering: if something needs periodic maintneance and=20 >tweaking, put it somewhere that is easily accessible and configured so it= =20 >can be taken apart and put back together easily.<snip>   Well, OK, but you have to have expression in a modern organ, especially theater.   DeserTBawB  
(back) Subject: Re: organs in schools From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:58:43   At 01:50 PM 4/22/2000 PDT, you wrote: >No problem... place pipes in the ceiling and have occasional lunchtime >concerts while the kiddies are eating, musical interludes during halftime= at=20 >the games, etc. This is in my mind even better than an auditorium (which I= =20 >fear would not be so condicive to "non-serious" and incidental music.)   There's a big history of organs in schools. Those in the New York City School system are famous indeed, if not still extant or working. Los Angeles Polytechnic High held a "Poly Wants and Organ" fundraising drive in the late '20s to put a WurliTzer in their auditorium. Hollywood High School has an E.M. Skinner, although trashed by the '94 Northridge quake. Hammonds started popping up at schools in the '30s, propelled by hard-sell tactics of local Hammond Organ Studios franchisees, and continued somewhat after the War (the big one). Organs never showed up again much after the 1950s.   >I agree, but ya know libraries are supposed to be fairly quiet<snip>   Well, some larger libraries do have auditoria used frequently for concerts and recitals. Some of the largest of the Carnegie libraries did indeed have organs, although small, some by =C6olian.   >>and >>museums, both of which could live with the good acoustics desireable for >>organ music. > >Palace of the Legion of Honor museum in San Fran. has a huge Skinner (?)=20 >organ, recently refurbished. Concerts every sunday afternoon in the main= =20 >hall.<snip>   Ron McKean, composer and organist of First Presbyterian in Oakland, CA, recently played this Skinner. He complained about it still being "muffled" and "hard to hear", although I've heard the fake "rocks" that hide the pipework have been refurbished to eliminate capture of sound by walls of grey paint. Skinner's work around this time was way too heavy on unisons and lacking badly in pedal and upperwork, but that's another subject....   >>However, there would need to be "practice claviers" around, >>since practice time in public building, much like RC churches, would be at= =20 >>a >>premium, unless you're night owls and have keys.<snip>   When a young un, practice time was unlimited and even encouraged at the RC parish I was using for practice...and free, too! Now, you have to fight the gee-tar players and mariachi illegals to get in the place!   >This is where the electronic organs are useful... Most of the time= practice=20 >on them, when you have something really good to show off to the public you= =20 >get a turn at the real thing.<snip>   Like it or not, e-orgs opened up a whole new world of practice time for the serious musician. Though tonally awkward, even a Hammond RT can provide hours or workout time that one would have to otherwise travel to get to, and you can do it while in your smoking jacket (bathrobe)! Plus, a Hammond and Leslie in the house is GREAT for parties! Purists that say "I'd NEVER have one of THOSE in MY house" are just being obtuse, preferring to spend time locked away in a dark, dreary church for hours on end. Sure, occassional practice to keep registrational skills in top form is necessary, but lots of fingering and pedalling can be worked out in the comfort of one's own home. Why, you can even have a coffeemaker on the console...an appliance on an appliance, so to speak! LMAO!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Liberation From: "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 00 15:40:50 -0700   >Buxtehude's chorale preludes...in >chronological order...or other such driv-VELL.   I agree that to play anybody's complete chorale preludes in chronological order, even J.S. himself, in anything but an academic setting would be a little bit much. But calling Buxtehude's work "such drivel" is very shallow and seems a rather uneducated viewpoint.   To listen to ANY of Buxtehude's orgelwerke as played by Harald Vogel on one of the historical instruments that he uses for his 7-CD set is sheer joy.   If I were programming Buxtehude for a public recital, I would make sure that the program notes either written or even better spoken would include information about Bach's trip to listen to and study with Buxtehude. Wasn't Bach offered the position of being Buxtehude's successor if only he would marry one of the old man's daughters?   When David Dahl recently played the dedicatory recital at All Saints' Episcopal Church in Las Vegas, he neither played down to the local audience [lot of people would think this necessary considering the location] nor did he offend the liturgical setting by playing something inappropriate to include the "Lowest common denominator." The only accommodation he made to the audience was playing many shorter selections. Each piece was prefaced with oral program notes with some historical tidbit and which of the new instruments' voices he was going to feature during the playing of that piece. It was universally agreed, from the most uneducated member of the congregation that was just happy that their church had something different to the most educated AGO members present, that this recital including works by Buxtehude, Balbastre, Krebs, Brahms, Smyth, Kauffmann, Walther, Pinkham and Bach was something very special.   Bruce  
(back) Subject: RE: Liberation From: "Bert Atwood" <atwoody@ispchannel.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:58:35 -0700   No, Aon - in Spear Tower at One Market.   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Bob Scarborough > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 2:11 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: RE: Liberation > > > At 12:13 PM 4/22/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >I must disagree with your Uzi comment. Having worked at One > Market for 18 > >years<schnippo al fine> > > Oh? You worked for SP? > > dB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:13:42 -0400   Dezzurt Bawb has a VERY good point.   Plexi-glass I would not stand on any organ I would build. (I don't build'em - but if I did). Plexi-glass (despite what many people say) does not do anything for the sound of an organ. If we could jumpstart = Hope-Jones heart, and let him see Organ Stop Pizza, he would wish he were dead = again!!   I'll say this much for Organ Stop, however. They use 1" thick Acrylic, and although it's not wood, it does tone the sound down alot more than just normal plastic. However, it still has that plexi-glass sound. The way I = like to describe the plexi-glass sound is like this:   When the shades are all the way closed, it would be like taking your = stereo equalizer and turning down all the mid ranges. The low ends and the = trebles come out clear as day - but the only thing that goes down is the mid = ranges. At the Grand Rapids, MI Roaring 20's Pizza (now the VanAndel Museum, = Grand Rapids, MI) we had WOOD shades - result, you ask?? One of the best damn pizza organs in the WORLD. However, the Lansing, MI Roaring 20's (now the Sexon Auditorium Wurlitzer, Los Angeles, CA) had plexi-glass, and people complained that the organ was too loud. WAY too loud. To make matter = worse, they installed a fake ceiling in the chambers....MADE UP OF MIRRORS!! That RUINED the organ completely. A year later, My father Gary, and Charlie Balogh put sheets and blankets over the mirrors, which helped a bit, but = you still had the plastic shades that ruined the sound.   My main point....Plexi-glass is good for one thing and one thing, only; = Cars and Picture Frames. They have no place in a pipe organ - theatre, = classical, barrel, carousel, you name it. I don't care what anyone says, and I know there's going to be some flack from this post....but I stand my ground on this comment.   Musically Yours, Ron Reseigh    
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:30:35 PDT     What material do you recommend that will be transparent so the sound is swell-able and that allows the public to see the (hopefully) beautifully polished and finished wood pipes?   DG     ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:33:12 -0400   How about wooden-framed shades made of plate glass?     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 20:30 Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades     > > What material do you recommend that will be transparent so > the sound is swell-able and that allows the public to see the > (hopefully) beautifully polished and finished wood pipes? > > DG > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:30:14 -0400   Let me also add a comment that a very well known organist said to me once = (I will not mention any names)........   Putting Plexi-Glass on a pipe organ is like putting Saran Wrap in place of = a car windshield.   I think you get my point.   Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:34:11 -0400   Dave G. wrote:   > What material do you recommend that will be transparent so > the sound is swell-able and that allows the public to see the > (hopefully) beautifully polished and finished wood pipes?     Wood. Do what the Roaring 20's did. Use Wood Shades, then have chamber windows directly under the shade frames. The windows were at chest level, allowing the sound to elevate before it escaped through the shades.   Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Ron Reseigh" <RonRizzy@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:36:29 -0400     ----- Original Message ----- From: V. David Barton <vdbarton@erols.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 8:33 PM Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades     > How about wooden-framed shades made of plate glass?   Still won't work. You *still* won't get that **solid** "quietness" from = even wood framed plastic. Just because wood is sealing the space between the shades, only takes care f half the problem. Again, as I stated before, = what would happen if you put Saran Wrap in place of a car windshield? It = wouldn't hold back the wind as what's supposed to be there, correct? Same principal with the shades.   Ron    
(back) Subject: plexi-glass shades From: "Luther Melby" <lmelby@prtel.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:36:11 -0500   Plexi-glass shades or not (at organ stop pizza) I'm going there any chance I get.!! :o) LJM    
(back) Subject: Re: organs in schools From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:07:03 -0400     ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave G. <dave_hat@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 4:50 PM Subject: Re: organs in schools   > No problem... place pipes in the ceiling and have occasional lunchtime > concerts while the kiddies are eating, musical interludes during = halftime at > the games, etc. This is in my mind even better than an auditorium = (which I > fear would not be so condicive to "non-serious" and incidental music.)   ???? Non-serious.....? We've done the "Cantina Song" from Star Wars in Crouse....      
(back) Subject: Re: Plexi-Glass shades From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:16:22 -0500   At 08:34 PM 04/22/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Dave G. wrote: > > > What material do you recommend that will be transparent so > > the sound is swell-able and that allows the public to see the > > (hopefully) beautifully polished and finished wood pipes? > > >Wood. Do what the Roaring 20's did. Use Wood Shades, then have chamber >windows directly under the shade frames. The windows were at chest = level, >allowing the sound to elevate before it escaped through the shades. > >Ron   This is exactly how the Organ Piper is set up....see the installation at the following: http://theatreorgans.com/wi/milwaukee/   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: In the Mall From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:41:26 EDT   In a message dated 4/22/00 4:45:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave_hat@hotmail.com writes:   << First rule of engineering: if something needs periodic maintneance and tweaking, put it somewhere that is easily accessible and configured so it =   can be taken apart and put back together easily. >>   teehee Reminds me of a church where I worked. One AC unit had not = been working properly so they decided to have it replaced. When the guy cam = out he took one look at it and said, "Oh, here's the problem. To change the filter you have to cut a hole in the wall!" The filter had not been = changed in THIRTEEN years!!!! What did the church do? Oh, come on, now! We =   ALL know what the church did....     The cut a hole in the wall...   changed the filter...   AND REPAIRED THE WALL!!!! (DAH!)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: organs in schools From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:48:16 EDT     No problem... place pipes in the ceiling and have occasional = lunchtime concerts while the kiddies are eating, musical interludes during halftime at the games, etc. This is in my mind even better than an auditorium (which I fear would not be so condicive to "non-serious" and incidental = music.) Please, folks! Please delete the word "chamber" from your vocabulary. Closets, basements, attics, garages and coal bins are no place to install organ pipes. Organs go in cases. Even band organs are encased!   I agree, but ya know libraries are supposed to be fairly quiet Well, recitals are held after hours and at specially designated times.   Librarian: "Sshhhhhhhh!!!" Organist: No! YOU shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Whaddayathinkthisis..... a prelude? This is where the electronic organs are useful... Most of the time practice on them, when you have something really good to show off to the = public you get a turn at the real thing. I dooooooooooooooooooooon't think so! If it depended upon playing a digirrhoid, I'd never play again! Two ranks in a closet would do it, = just to work notes... I'll even relax and let it be EP or DE!! ;-)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502