PipeChat Digest #1371 - Sunday, April 30, 2000
 
Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Fw: why I don't quit
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Carlo Curley at Wanamaker/Lord &Taylor Grand Court today. X posted---
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: HUGE Schoenstein was Estey reedless reeds
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: Wurlitzer Valves
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Famous Music Quotes...
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Famous Music Quotes...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Fwd: OHS Boston Convention 8/16-8/23
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: OHS Boston Convention 8/16-8/23
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Fw: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: What is an organ, and are reed organs and other such noisemakers off-
  by "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com>
Re: What is an organ, and are reed organs and other suchnoisemakers  off-
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question "Hallmans"
  by "Nelson And Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net>
Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question "Hallmans"
  by "Nelson And Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:03:15 +0800   A derivation from the cube bass of Compton has been used by Kenneth Jones = in an organ recently built in a Melbourne Chapel. It has several pneumatic = valves that open various chambers in the box to give the different notes at 32' pitch. The lowest note is used for the last three notes from low D# as at = that pitch the human ear doesn't hear the difference. If you don't agree with = that last statement, don't tell me!! Tell Kenneth Jones! From all reports it = works anyway. Perhaps Bill Glasson may have heard the organ. Bob E.   Ray Thursby wrote:   > Since the thread seems to be getting progressively stranger...does = anyone > know anything about the "Cube Bass" developed by the Compton Organ Co. = in > England? Anyone ever heard one? Seems like just the thing to go along = with > reedless reeds. > > Of course a 4M 3R theater organ with no pedals wouldn't need any kind of > bass anyway.... > > Ray Thursby > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: why I don't quit From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:14:10 +0800   Nope Rick. I don't miss 'em at all! BUT I would prefer a good reed organ = to the schpinettes so beloved of Brewse.   In the 1930s even the biggest churches in my state usually had a reed = organ. There were only 30 or so pipe organs in the entire state, nearly all in = the capital city.. One of the biggest reed organs.I played was an Estey of = the 1930s which had two manuals and pedals and made a pretty fair sort of = noise. I can't remember the number of stops but there were plenty. The biggest = quite easily was a French job that was brought into OZ but Dom Mareno organist = of the Benedictine Abbey in New Norcia West Australia. This was huge. It had a 32 = foot stop on the great and a couple of undulant stops with two reed tongues per = note slightly off tuned to make a very effective Celeste. The tone of those was = quite stringy. Unfortunately this instrument had no pedals and was foot pumped = with huge pedals, a herculean task even for someone as fit as I was at age 22.. = This is no longer in the Church where I played it and I don't know what became = of it.   Bob E.   VEAGUE wrote:   > Hey Bob- > Don'tchyawish ya had those old pump organs again? I just restored a = Hamilton > with a mirrored gallery that now graces my parlour alongside my 1924 = Jesse > French player piano. > > Rick >    
(back) Subject: Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:50:54 -0500   At 4/28/00 07:09 PM, DeserTBoB quoted me and added:   >>I guess I'll have to add the Orgatron to my list of other large and = heavy >>musical instruments that I wish to own in the future...like I need = another >>thing added to *that* list...<big grin><snip> > >Fear not, you won't be saddled with one anytime soon! <snip>   LOL!! I can always hope, I guess...<g>...while I'm at it, I'll hope for a bigger house... <bigger g>   >Another "big/heavy" worth collecting are the original WurliTzers, models 20 and 21. >VERY strange looking console, but basically the old Organtron somewhat slimmed >down. <snip>   Think I *have* seen these -- an old friend had a couple of organs such as you describe, and he was in fact, planning to "convert" one into a pipe organ console for his home organ project. I still have the little blower-box from one of them around here somewhere...wish I had the whole damn thing, now! I specifically remember the slightly-oddly-proportioned shape of the things (sorta "deco" in styling) and that they were indeed heavy as sin! I wonder what ever became of those things...   Interesting possibilities to ponder with your idea of modern electronics = as applied to one of these things...it would have been a fun toy to play = with!   A good weekend to all --   Tim  
(back) Subject: Carlo Curley at Wanamaker/Lord &Taylor Grand Court today. X posted--- From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 09:51:36 EDT   Hi folks--- Just a reminder that Carlo is concertizing on the Wanamaker organ today at =   2:30 PM for those in the Philly area. The organ has had a lot of work done = on it in the past few months, and is sounding better than ever. Cheers, ---Roc L V Rockafellow  
(back) Subject: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin) From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 10:11:54 -0700   I got hooked on 'em early ... an Estey Child's Organ, followed by one of = their two-rank fold-up missionary organs, followed by an 11-stop Estey of 1888 = that came out of a convent in South Carolina. Unfortunately it was the smallest of = its series (I later looked it up in the reprinted Estey catalog) and lacked the Sub = Bass and the Aeoline Harp 2'. I finally sold it when I broke up housekeeping in San = Diego in 1993.   Next was a blunderbuss of a two-manual and pedal Estey that my piano = teacher played in St. David's Episcopal Church, Lakeland, FL ... when they got the Allen = (now replaced by a two-manual pipe by a local builder) they gave her the Estey. = It was in her home for a number of years; then she gave it to an Episcopal mission = somewhere in central Florida ... I have no idea if it still exists. It was PLENTY = loud for a congregation of 200.   A lot of the old RC churches in the midwest had "backup" reed organs in = the organ loft for those occasions when either the pipe organ failed, and/or the = power went out. There was a "Liszt" model Mason & Hamlin in St. Xavier in downtown = Cincinnati that had the bass sustain coupler. When drawn, the lowest note would = continue to sound until you moved to the next one. Made it possible to play quite a = few things that you wouldn't normally think of as being playable on a one-manual reed = organ. In those spacious acoustics, it was quite a sound.   The most curious one was in the Church of the Gesu (?) (outside of = Cleveland, I think) ... the organ was a three-manual Schantz, with a reed organ = attached to the Choir manual. The treadles for the bellows folded down on either side of = the swell shoes.   A THREE-manual Mason & Hamlin slipped by us ... it was in the basement of = an inn in Carlsbad, CA ... but it was auctioned off before we had a chance to = document it. I think it had a 32' stop.   Sacred Heart Church in Oberlin, OH had a two-manual Mason & Hamlin ... it = was in pretty sad shape, but they moved it to the new church, where it was = eventually replaced by a Rodgers, even though they had a donor for a pipe organ.   When Christ the King Episcopal in Alpine, CA was built, the priest was = determined not to have an electronic, so I found him a two-manual Vocalion ... nice = sound, but they never carried out a real restoration. Eventually it was replaced by = first a Conn theatre organ, and then by a new Allen. The reed organ found its way = to a museum in Lakeside, CA, where GBOrgan plays it occasionally for weddings, = etc.   The problem I found with most of the larger organs was that when they = decided to put in an electric blower, the silly people would take out the RESERVOIR to = make room for the blower, so you couldn't play more than a couple of stops at the = time. The Mason & Hamlin in St. Stephen's Episcopal in Mt. Healthy (suburb of = Cincinnati) was like that ... eventually they replaced it with a used Bawld-One Model FIVE (!!@#$%^&*) from Holy Trinity Episcopal, Kenwood, where I'd gotten a small Verscheuren unit pipe organ.   Playing a High Mass on one of those foot-pumped jobbies was real WORK ... = my ankles would always start to give out about half-way through the Credo. But as I = discovered when we restored the hand-pump feeders on the Koehnken & Grimm in the = Shrine of the Immaculata in Cincinnati, not NEARLY as much work as pumping a PIPE organ. = And those organs, at least in RC churches in the midwest, were played DAILY for = multiple Sung Masses. I guess they must have used the reed organs for choir practices, = or used a piano elsewhere in the building.   Interesting ... we take it for granted that we can practice just about = anytime we want to with the flip of a blower switch. I remember reading that the = organist at Emmanuel Episcopal in Boston (the big Casavant) had to wait for the water = tank in the bell tower to fill before the water motor would operate. If the sexton = forgot to turn on the water in time, the organ wouldn't play.   A few reed organs were built with a real 8' Gedeckt rank of pipes in the = pipe-top. I've seen pictures, but I never heard one.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: HUGE Schoenstein was Estey reedless reeds From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:20:39 EDT   Hi All...   Just my 2 cents worth, Schoenstein does not as a rule build slider chests. = Rather they build an electropneumatic unit chest of their own design. The =   LDS Conference Center instrument gets pitman chests, but they are being built by A.R. Schope's Sons for Schoenstein.   Bill  
(back) Subject: Re: Wurlitzer Valves From: <ORGANUT@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:54:16 EDT   In a message dated 04/27/2000 10:34:06 AM Central Daylight Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:   << We found the space between disk faces to be nominally 11/16", and the = first nut sitting in the first thread. We also found that not all rods were exactly the same length; varying by as much as a 1/4"! Also that the location of the threads on the rods was inconsistent. To completely redo theses valves we were told that it was better to use = new disks that are threaded on ratherthan loose-spinning. however these are thicker! Also if we add the nuts it leaves no wobble to help seat the valve. Is that really better? Is the 11/16" a good dimension to hold? What should the initial space between the top of the primary pneumatic = and the valve disk face be ? Where - in your esteemed opnions - should we purchase the proper parts? = P/N? >> John, I have rebuilt 5 different Wurlitzer chest. And, yes, all of the valve =   rods are not exactly the same lenght or have the same amount of threaded portion. The 11/16" measurement is exactly the same measurement I came up with. However, this will change slightly as a result of the gasket = thickness used on the valve cover board. I assembled my spool valves the following way. Run a leather nut on the threaded portion of the valve wire until it =   just starts to run off on the unthreaded portion. Place a small leather = or felt washer behind that. I make my own washers out of thin leather and a leather punch. Then place the first valve disc on the valve wire followed = by another washer and leather nut. Repeat that same operation for the second =   valve disc and space them 11/16" apart outside to outside distance. This measurement is not exact, but is a good starting point. I would not recommend using the prethreaded valve disc. The valve disc need to be = able to wobble slightly so that they will seat properly. I tried the = prethreaded and was having problems getting the disc to seat properly. You can buy = both types from OSI. They are made for Wurlitzer repalcement. I can go into detail with you as how to make the final adjustment on the disc spacing so = as to get the exact amount of valve travel you wish. If you will Email me, I can send you numerous digipics showing valve reassembly and primary and secondary rebuild, regulator and toeboard rebuild.. I can hopefully help you avoid some of the costly and time consuming mistakes many of us have made starting out in this hobby.   Later, Phil L  
(back) Subject: Famous Music Quotes... From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:41:53 EDT   Hey All, believe it or not, I'm still alive! Westminster has had MANY ups = and downs, lots of drama, but great music! I've started playing music that I = used to only listen to...I'm having fun and sweating it out. We have two weeks left...THANK GOD! But in that time I have to write a paper on my = philosophy of music ed. I need to "ground" the paper with a quote, something relating = to music or the education of music. If anyone knows of any or could help me, = it would be VERY helpful!   Thanks, Pete  
(back) Subject: Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin) From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:19:59 -0500   At 4/29/00 10:11 AM, you wrote:   a really neat and quite interesting description of several unique reed organs. (snipped for brevity)   My question, however:   Why are reed organs supposedly "off topic"?? Is this *really* true?? = (I'd think rather the opposite, myself...)   Just checking...<G>   Cheers!   Tim    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin) From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:31:27 -0500   At 10:11 AM -0700 4/29/0, Quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: >I got hooked on 'em early ... an Estey Child's Organ, followed by one of = their >two-rank fold-up missionary organs, followed by an 11-stop Estey of >1888 that came >out of a convent in South Carolina. Unfortunately it was the >smallest of its series >(I later looked it up in the reprinted Estey catalog) and lacked the >Sub Bass and >the Aeoline Harp 2'. I finally sold it when I broke up housekeeping >in San Diego in >1993. [SNIP]   Bud   Thanks for your interesting recollections especially the Schantz/Reed = organ.   I have one problem however with your posting - According to your Subject Line you say "technically off-topic" Although there is a Reed Organ Society List, Reed Organs are NOT off topic on PipeChat. They are more on-topic than some of the rest of the "so-called" instruments that do get discussed on the list. <G>   Happy PipeChatting,   David   **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Famous Music Quotes... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:36:16 EDT   In a message dated 4/29/00 7:43:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Oboe32@aol.com writes:   << I need to "ground" the paper with a quote, something relating to music or the education of music. If anyone knows of any or could help me, = it would be VERY helpful! >>     "Stay in church music long enought and you will see why Christians were thrown to the lions." Anonymous   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Fwd: OHS Boston Convention 8/16-8/23 From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:43:57 -0500   Although I think Bill is a member of PipeChat he only posted this to the PIPORG-L list in response to a question from someone. Since not everyone on PipeChat also gets PIPORG-L and since there are many OHS members and others interested in the Boston Convention I have decided to forward it here. I hope Bill doesn't mind.   Speaking of OHS Boston, several people have talked to me about the PipeChat group having a get-together sometime during the Convention. It has been decided that we will do so and more info will be posted about it after we see how the schedule for the convention is going to arranged.   David     >Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:43:04 -0400 >Reply-To: wvanpelt@erols.com >Sender: Pipe Organs and Related Topics <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> >From: "William T. Van Pelt III" <wvanpelt@erols.com> >Subject: OHS Boston Convention 8/16-8/23 >To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu > >Dear List and Stanley Lowkis: > >Stanley wrote, "Tell us all about the Theatre Organ event(s) that the >OHS mavens have planned for the organ lovers in the Boston area." > >We have a major change that I'm happy to announce. The Convention >Headquarters have been moved to the Boston Park Plaza Hotel and out of >the dormitory at Suffolk University. We have achieved a very reasonable >rate at the hotel of $129 per room, double or single occupancy. This is >nearly $100 lower than the rate we were quoted three years ago when we >were hotel shopping for the convention. Many of our members let us know >that they do not wish to spend their vacations in a dormitory. However, >dorm rooms will remain available for those who wish to have a bed there >at a very reasonable rate of $45 per bed in a room with at least one >other person, or $65 per night in a room with no one else, so long as >they remain available. The bath is down the hall. > >Regarding Stanley's question about itinerary: We are doing lots of >wonderful things at the OHS Convention in Boston, Wednesday, August 16, >through Wednesday evening, August 23, but theatre organs are not >included this year. The local committee dealt with the wealth of >instruments, both fine and unusual as well as historic, and chose a >great and representative selection. There is no where on Earth that one >can see as many Hook organs from all eras as in Boston, and we're taking >that opportunity. Here we will be, at "ground zero" for U. S. >organbuilding for half of the 19th century and two-thirds of the 20th, >so we must see the great instruments built "at home" by the Hooks and >Francis Hastings, by E. M. Skinner and G. Donald Harrison, and, yes by >"reformed" tracker builders like Fisk, Noack, Bozeman, and Andover. As >well, we will see organs by a host of other builders, almost all of whom >built in the Boston area or have a strong Boston connection. > >Alas, the Bostonians seldom added to the genre of the theatre organ and >the rare examples by Skinner and others are gone. To see another >Wurlitzer under these circumstances seems beyond the point. Though, you >may disagree. Honestly, I have had nothing to do with the selection of >instruments, so please don't "flame" the messenger if you strongly >disagree with the itinerary. Instead, once you've seen the itinerary >(I'll get to that in a second) please write your thoughts to my employer >whom you members elected, the National Council of the OHS, or to the >President. Their addresses appear on page 2 of every issue of our >journal, The Tracker. > >As to the itinerary, it has only recently become reasonably stable to >the point where we can advertise it with reasonable certainty that there >will be few, if any, changes. We hope to get that up on the convention >website sometime next week (http://www.organsociety.org/boston/) and >also publish it in the registration form for members to receive by mail >by the end of May. We are now working on the registration information, >setting the registration fee, transport at the convention, etc. > >Those who are not OHS members are welcome at our convention. We'll be >happy to send registration information by snail mail if you'll please >request it at <convention@organsociety.org>. OHS members, there is no >need for you to request registration information. You will receive it >automatically by mail as soon as it becomes available. > >Thanks for this opportunity to discuss the convention. Hope many of you >can join us for a week of 30+ organ recitals on some of America's very >most important and wonderful historic instruments. > >Bill Van Pelt > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- >tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- >versity at Albany. For a brief summary of list commands, send mail to >listserv@listserv.albany.edu saying GET LSVCMMDS.TXT or see the web >page at http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::   **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org 850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: OHS Boston Convention 8/16-8/23 From: <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:34:30 EDT   Speaking of the convention.... does anyone know when more information will =   become avalable? Any ideas on the usual cost of the convention?    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:27:28 -0500   David Scribner wrote:   > I have one problem however with your posting - According to your > Subject Line you say "technically off-topic" Although there is a > Reed Organ Society List, Reed Organs are NOT off topic on PipeChat. > They are more on-topic than some of the rest of the "so-called" > instruments that do get discussed on the list. <G>   It is rather difficult to define an organ. Do organs have keyboards? Well, barrel organs don't. Do organs have pipes? Well, reed organs don't. My personal view is that organs have WIND. That would include pipe organs, reed organs, even those 1960's "chord organs" with plastic reeds. It would, curiously enough, exclude calliopes, which have steam and not wind. It would also exclude instruments that have consoles with stops and operate by bonging stalactites with little rubber hammers. There is nothing like wind. In the Old Testament wind, *ruach* is the Spirit of God.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Fw: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:47:31 -0500       ----- Original Message ----- From: John L. Speller <jlspeller@stlnet.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Reed Organs (technically off-topic) (grin)       > > It is rather difficult to define an organ. Do organs have keyboards? > Well, barrel organs don't. Do organs have pipes? Well, reed organs > don't. My personal view is that organs have WIND. (SNIP)   .................oohhhhhhhhhhh,goody! we can talk about book-playing street organs!   Rick     > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: What is an organ, and are reed organs and other such noisemakers off-topic From: "Dave G." <dave_hat@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:01:24 PDT   To quote from Dr. James H. Cook's excellent History of the Organ and How = it works website:   "to be considered an 'organ' it must have four basic components:   *pipes that produce sound *are placed on a chamber that stores wind under pressure that has been mechanically generated, *and access of wind to pipes controlled by a keyboard "   This is the definition I go by. However, that should not exclude the discussion of related instruments from this friendly discussion list.   Dave ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: What is an organ, and are reed organs and other suchnoisemakers off-topic From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:25:28 +0800   That sounds like a definition of a pipe organ. There are reed organs. = Check your dictionary!!! Bob E.   "Dave G." wrote:   > To quote from Dr. James H. Cook's excellent History of the Organ and How = it > works website: > > "to be considered an 'organ' it must have four basic components: > > *pipes that produce sound > *are placed on a chamber that stores wind > under pressure that has been mechanically > generated, > *and access of wind to pipes controlled by a > keyboard " > > This is the definition I go by. However, that should not exclude the > discussion of related instruments from this friendly discussion list. > > Dave > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question "Hallmans" From: "Nelson And Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:10:12 -0400   There are still a lot of old J. C. Hallman "Amplified" reed organs around and in service. They were very similar to WurliTzers. They were built like tanks and were DARN HEAVY!! The pedal boards were made with WELDED STEEL FRAMES covered in solid Oak! I've got one in my garage and I can barely lift it to move it.   J . C. also later built a few pipe organs. (Just to keep things on topic.) Nelson Denton R. A. Denton & Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada    
(back) Subject: Re: (or should that be "Was"?) Fw: A Serious Question "Hallmans" From: "Nelson And Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:18:16 -0400   I should point out that Hallmans had individual electro-magnet valves (similar to Reisner 601's under each reed) and they used Reisner switching for the most part, later their own versions. One big problem with Hallman's pipe organs was the use of P-bronze contacts on the switching. = It causes all sorts of intermitant dead notes. Very nice workmanship for = the most part. Shame the company folded. Nelson Denton R. A. Denton & Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada   > There are still a lot of old J. C. Hallman "Amplified" reed organs = around > and in service. They were very similar to WurliTzers.