PipeChat Digest #1248 - Tuesday, February 1, 2000
 
Re: organ re-build
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: organ re-build
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Rochester Hosts Ralph Ringstad Next Sunday Afternoon! (cross-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Boring Sermons (This does have an organ in it)
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: organ re-build
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
discarded pipe organs
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: discarded pipe organs
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: organ re-build
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: discarded pipe organs
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
ICQ
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
 



(back) Subject: Re: organ re-build From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:10:33 EST   >> The organ has been silent for 30 years because of a faulty blower. An electric instrument had been used until 2 years ago when it fell into disrepair.<<   Hi list, I knew of a church near Buffalo that scrapped their Schlicker because =   the blower had blown a fuse. (I'm going to watch my wording here) The = story goes that they were told the organ would never work again and they should = put in an electronic. (Not an American made electronic, but one form = overseas.) They have had nothing but problems with it. There is also another church near Rochester I know of that pulled a wonderful pipe organ out because they were told it needed extensive rebuilding. It needed about the same amount of work as the one near = Buffalo. The same brand of electronic went in. (wink, wink) Almost every time the organ is turned on there is a problem and the console is falling apart. For the cost of a 99 cent fuse both these organs could have been saved.   Just me.  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:12:03 -0500 (EST)   Bruce Corneley wrote:   "...If you are going to hire an insultant..."   A wonderful Freudian slip.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Cincinnati, Ohio      
(back) Subject: Re: organ re-build From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:16:50 -0500 (EST)   Congrations! Specs, please!! ;-)   original mesage.... The=A0 1923 Henry Pilcher's Sons pipe organ housed in St.John the Baptist Catholic Church in Bradford, Illinois is being rebuilt by Howell Pipe Organs,Inc. Sterling, Illinois.=A0   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida   http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/rohrschok8/OrganMusicLibrary    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:31:28 -0500 (EST)     >"...If you are going to hire an insultant..." >A wonderful Freudian slip. slip??? hehehehe   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida   http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/rohrschok8/OrganMusicLibrary    
(back) Subject: Rochester Hosts Ralph Ringstad Next Sunday Afternoon! (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:38:38 -0500   New Jersey theater organist Ralph Ringstad will play his third performance for the Rochester Theater Organ Society on Sunday afternoon, February 6th = at 2:30 p.m. The Auditorium Center, 875 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605 will be the place and a Wurlitzer 4/22 will be the instrument. Tickets at only $10 each will go on sale at the box office starting at 1:30 p.m. and the inside doors will open for admission 15 minutes later. This concert = will be this season's last afternoon presentation.   The complete RTOS 2000 concert schedule, driving directions, information about our 2 Wurlitzers and much more may be found on our website at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ . For additional information email me = by private reply.   We hope that you can join us for a wonderful way to spend a Sunday afternoon.   Regards, Ken Evans RTOS President      
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:29:51 -0400   >>"...If you are going to hire an insultant..." >>A wonderful Freudian slip. >slip??? hehehehe   Oh.... I get it.   Randy Runyon organist, Immanuel Presbyterian Church, Cincinnati runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Boring Sermons (This does have an organ in it) From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:36:17 EST   This is from the book "Winning Monologs for Young Actors." We had auditions= =20 for our show this week and one of the kids used this. It's a hoot.   Thoughts During a Boring Sermon   There should be a law that boring sermons can only last for 10 minutes. Five= =20 would have been better, but ten should be maximum. If I have to sit here an= d=20 listen to this much longer, I'm going to fall asleep, and if I fall asleep,=20 Mom will kill me. The trouble with having your mother sing in the choir is=20 that she gets a perfect view of the congregation. I can never hide a=20 magazine in my hymnal or do my homework without her seeing. I can't even=20 doodle on the offering envelope. Pay attention to the sermon, dear. It's good for you." Ha! How could=20 anything this boring be good for me? Mr. Swenson is nodding again. He does it every Sunday. About halfway=20 through the sermon, his head starts to droop and it bobs farther and farther= =20 down until all of a sudden he jerks up again and his eyes fly open. I'm not= =20 sure if he wakes up all by himself or if Mrs. Swenson pokes him in the ribs.= =20 Then, a few minutes later, the whole process repeats itself. Bob, bob, bob-= =20 jerk! Bob, bob, bob- Jerk. You know how dull the sermon must be if I can be=20 fascinated by Mr. Swenson's going bob, bob, bob, jerk. There are 218 organ pipes in this church, all of them across the back=20 wall, behind the choir loft. There are 632 different pieces of stained glas= s=20 in the picture of Mary. I counted them three Sundays in a row, to be sure I= =20 had it right. If you are interested in this kind of technical information,=20= I=20 can also tell you that there are forty-four horizontal pieces of wood in the= =20 altar railing and sixteen fringe balls on the cloth that covers the lecturn. I don't ever expect to need these statistics, but they give me somethin= g=20 to think about while the sermon drones on. Drone, drone, like the steady hum= =20 of cars on a busy freeway, except there's never a screech of tires to break=20 the monotony. Sometimes I daydream about doing outrageous things in the middle of the= =20 sermon. I wonder what would happen if I suddenly jumped to my feet and=20 yelled, "Anybody want to play volleyball?" Or what if I faked a coughing attack? I could choke and gasp for breath= =20 and roll my eyes around and then get up and leave. If I hacked and coughed=20 all the out, I'd really cause a ruckus. Or maybe I could pass a note around, like we sometimes do in Study Hall= ..=20 At exactly 11:35, everyone drop your pencil. =20 What I'd really like to do is bring one of those remote-controlled toy=20 cars and hide it under the first pew. Then, when the sermon got too boring,=20 I'd turn it on and run it up and down the aisle. That would wake up Mr.=20 Swenson. To be perfectly honest, I know I'll never do any of those things. I'm=20 too much of a coward. I'm not afraid that God would punish me, but I'm dead=20 certain sure my mother would. Much as I would like to rise my feet and=20 scream, "Fire! Fire! There's a fire in hell!" I won't ever do it. Instead,=20 I'll pretend to pay attention to the sermon. I wonder how many squares of ceiling tile there are in here? (Looks up=20 and starts to count.) One, two, three=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=20   =20  
(back) Subject: Re: organ re-build From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:00:53 -0500   In response to the two pipes in New York that were scrapped because they could "no longer play" -fuse problems:   Sumpin' a little fishy here, and it ain't cat food!   Either bad "knowledgable" advice, or a fast-talking toaster salesperson!   Just me 2      
(back) Subject: discarded pipe organs From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:43:06 -0800   Pipe organs are discarded for all sorts of silly reasons ... one church got rid of theirs because it "might" cost lots of money to maintain it at some FUTURE point; another discarded theirs to make more room in the SACRISTY.   And, yes, there ARE some unscrupulous sales-persons out there, and not all of them sell digital products, either. One church was sold a rebuild of their pipe organ by a fly-by-night "organ cobbler" who left the organ scattered all over the parish hall and split town with $45K of the Vestry's money!   It would seem to me that ANY church lucky enough to have a pipe organ should FIRST explore rebuilding, revoicing, and/or restoring THAT before looking at a replacement, digital OR pipe. And your local pipe organ service tech is not necessarily (or even usually) the best place to start. If the builder of the organ is still in business, start THERE. If not, read the pages of TAO, the Diapason, and (particularly) the Tracker to see who's doing RESPONSIBLE rebuilds these days. A good place to start is the two pipe organ builders' associations ... they're both online.   It's a cliche, but FAR more organs are discarded because of FASHION than because they're worn out. If you have an organ that's sound mechanically, but (ostensibly) out-of-date tonally, learn to play what IT was built to play, rather than "cobbling" it to play what YOU want it to play. You might be surprised at what a good job it does.   And always, always, ALWAYS check with Organ Clearing House and other lists of used pipe organs before going the digital route. You'd be surprised what's out there, and what can be had for the cost of a new digital organ.   Cheers,   Bud  
(back) Subject: Re: discarded pipe organs From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:21:34 -0600   At 1/31/00 03:43 PM, Bud wrote: >Pipe organs are discarded for all sorts of silly reasons ...   Make that "all sorts of *STUPID* reasons..."   (Pardon me, but I'm unabashedly a bit biased about such things...<G>)   Tim   "It's too bad that ignorance isn't painful" (spotted on a bumper sticker)  
(back) Subject: Re: organ re-build From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:10:53 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: bruce cornely <rohrschok8@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: Re: organ re-build     > Congrations! Specs, please!! ;-)     Bruce and all, here are the specs: Gt. Open Diapason 8', melodia 8', dulciana 8' Sw. stopped diapason 8'. aeoline 8' (a waste as far a I am concerned), viola 8', harmonic flute 4' Ped. bourdon 16' a full compliment of couplers and a provision for a reed on the swell in the future. > > original mesage.... > The 1923 Henry Pilcher's Sons pipe organ housed in St.John the > Baptist Catholic Church in Bradford, Illinois is being rebuilt by Howell > Pipe Organs,Inc. Sterling, Illinois. > > bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida > > http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand > http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest > http://community.webtv.net/rohrschok8/OrganMusicLibrary > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: discarded pipe organs From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:29:14 -0500   Amen on the "fly-by-nighters". My neighbor up the road got bit- but good. He'll never learn.   Rick      
(back) Subject: ICQ From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:14:51 EST   If anyone is running ICQ on their computer, my UIN is 4174517.   Carlo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com