PipeChat Digest #1254 - Saturday, February 5, 2000
 
Re: Choral directors vs. Organists (kinda long)
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
David Craighead Recital  in Pensacola, FL
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Choral directors vs. Organists
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Organ Recital by Anthomy Pinel
  by <NAShepherd@aol.com>
RE: Choral directors vs. Organists (kinda long)
  by "Ruth S." <theraven@sympatico.ca>
Sunday afternoon in Rochester (cross-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
 



(back) Subject: Re: Choral directors vs. Organists (kinda long) From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 10:26:26 -0800   Rebekah: that's PRECISELY why I don't take divided positions, no way no HOW. Choral directors who don't play the organ have no idea of our struggles with the beast, particularly with a pianistic accompaniment like the Schubert (though I play it on the organ, and have for years, you're RIGHT ... it's HARD to bring off). And reprimanding you IN FRONT OF THE CHOIR is inexcusably unprofessional.   Cheers,   Bud Choirmaster AND Organist St. Matthew's Parish Newport Beach CA USA   > Rebekah Ingram wrote: > > This may be a controversial issue, I don't know. But I need opinions, > and I > figured what better way.... > > I was to accompany a women's choir on Schubert's "The Lord is My > Shepherd" > on organ (I don't know why). There is a student director, and the > regular director. > Anyways, I was trying to explain why I was playing things the way that > I was, > i.e. reeds don't sound particularly quickely, the sound is going > -over- everyone's > head and it sounds different in the audience, playing quick triplets > is likely to get > a muddy sound, etc. Anywho, there I was trying to explain this when > the student > director (who I know quite well) said "Look, I'M the director! I've > performed this piece > before!" I also have to say that this was said quite loudly in the > presence of the > entire women's choir and of course, everyone was listening. > > This is the second time that this has happened to me. I had an > assistant organist > only position when I was 16, and it was the same deal. I was "reduced" > in musician- > ship because I was not the director. I am both an organist and a choir > director, and have > been for longer than this women was even directing. We have no qualms > with each other, > since I've known her for a while, but I told her, that I would hope > that she would trust me > to do the musically correct thing. Also, I was doing what -my- organ > teacher told me to > do. He teaches here at SU and was the Poister competition winner. > Thus, I would not > feel right about straying from his suggestions. > > Is this typical? Is it that stereotypical choral/vocal thing? (I know > about -that- reputation.) > > In any case, I told her she can just get the piano to do it. > > Feel free to bash me privately. > > -Rebekah >  
(back) Subject: David Craighead Recital in Pensacola, FL From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:21:37 -0600   David Craighead, who our local paper has referred to as "The Dean of American Organists" will be performing this coming Sunday afternoon at 4PM on the Kney Organ in Christ Church (Episcopal), Pensacola, Florida.   His program includes "Variations on American" by Charles Ives, the "Cortege et Litanie" by Marcel Dupre and the music of J.S. Back, Joseph Reinberger, Max Reger and William Bolcom.   This recital is part of the 25th Anniversary Series of "Music at Christ Church" The concert is free and open to the public. A $5 donation is suggested. Christ Church is at the corner of Wright and Palafox streets in downtown Pensacola. For more information please call 850-432-5115 or visit the Christ Church web site at: http://www.christchurchpns.org   David *********************************** David C. Scribner Sub-Dean and Editor, THE WEST FLORIDA ORGANIST Pensacola Chapter, AGO http://www.pensacola-ago.org mailto:ago@pensacola-ago.org 850-478-9635 - V 850-476-0711 - F  
(back) Subject: Re: Choral directors vs. Organists From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:16:32 -0500 (EST)   When accompanying, we are to try to accommodate the director's wishes as much as possible (there are lots of tricks to make them think they are getting what they're asking for).   When directing, we get to call the shots (hopefully with the intentions of the composer, accepted performance practice, etc. firmly lodged in our brains). Often a director may have perfectly legitimate reasons for his/her instructions.   Now the REAL trick, is when you are both director and accompanist. Directing your own accompanying is NOT easy.   My 2 pennies worth. Neil    
(back) Subject: Organ Recital by Anthomy Pinel From: <NAShepherd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:11:40 EST   St John's Parish Church, Keynsham, UK   Organ Recital by Anthony Pinel (Organist, St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol) Saturday 5th February 2000 at 7.30pm   PROGRAMME   Prelude and Fugue on BACH Franz List (1811-1886) Air on the G string J.S.Bach arr Gordon Phillips (1908-1991) Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C J.S.Bach (1685-1750) Trio in C minor Fasch arr J.S.Bach Now Thank We All Our God J.S.Bach arr Virgil Fox (1912-79) Allegro risoluto (Symphonie No. 2) Louis Vierne (1870-1937) Scherzo (Symphonie No.2) Louis Vierne (1870-1937) Andante Sostenuto (Symphonie Gothique) C.M.Widor (1844-1937) Etude de concert Josephe Bonnett (1844-1944)   If you are around, do drop in to see us!   Neil Shepherd             Anthony Pinel graduated from Huddersfield Polytechnic where he was organ scholar of the polytechnic and the parish church, before taking up the appointment as organ scholar of Birmingham Cathedral. In 1986 he became assistant organist of Bristol Cathedral and as accompanist to the = cathedral choir, undertook tours of the USA and Germany.   He was simultaneously Acting Organist and Master of the Choristers of = Bristol Cathedral and Assistant Organist of St Mary Redcliffe and now holds the position of Director of Music and Organist of St Mary Redcliffe.   He has made recordings as accompanist, soloist and conductor, played at = many important venues in England and made several visits to the USA as soloist = and accompanist. He has recently returned from the USA following a month in charge of the music as St Peter's Morristown, New Jersey.   Anthony combines a busy life as a musician with a position on the visiting =   music staff of Clifton College Preparatory School and Colston's School. He = is accompanist of the City of Bristol Choir.  
(back) Subject: RE: Choral directors vs. Organists (kinda long) From: "Ruth S." <theraven@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:55:25 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01BF6F52.290D4480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Ahh, you have the secret. Maturity, respect, confidence, and the willingness of both parties to help each other accomplish the best they can. Perhaps your success is in being confident, not egotistical This ego thing can be quite hurtful, and harmful. It really is disturbing how many organists/directors can not get along. I accompany a violinist at times, and he is really, really, good. But boy, he helps me to accompany him just right, and he always encourages me. I now can pretty well tell exactly how and what he wants. I also highly respect him. That sure helps. Also, we both serve in the same congregation, that is the final binding power between us. And in the end..it sounds great, not because I am good, but because he is, and he helps me be too :) I have learned more about organ playing in the last 2 years than in all my previous years, and I love it. I am blessed enough to have talented..mature minded people teaching me. Ruth     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01BF6F52.290D4480 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D610373701-05022000>Ahh,=3D20 you have the secret.&nbsp; Maturity, respect, confidence, and the =3D willingness of=3D20 both parties to help each other accomplish the best they=3D20 can.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D610373701-05022000>Perhaps your success is in being confident, = =3D not=3D20 egotistical&nbsp;&nbsp; This ego thing can be quite hurtful, and=3D20 harmful.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D610373701-05022000>It=3D20 really is disturbing how many organists/directors can not get along.=3D20 </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D610373701-05022000>I=3D20 accompany a violinist at times, and he is really, really, good.&nbsp; =3D But boy,=3D20 he helps me to accompany him just right, and he always encourages =3D me.&nbsp; I=3D20 now can pretty well tell exactly how and what he wants.&nbsp; I also =3D highly=3D20 respect him.&nbsp; That sure helps.&nbsp; Also, we both serve in the =3D same=3D20 congregation, that is the final binding power between us. And in the =3D end..it=3D20 sounds great, not because I am good, but because he is, and he helps me = =3D be too=3D20 :)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D610373701-05022000>I have=3D20 learned more about organ playing in the last 2 years than in all my =3D previous=3D20 years, and I love it.&nbsp; I am blessed enough to have talented..mature = =3D minded=3D20 people teaching me.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D610373701-05022000>Ruth</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D610373701-05022000></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0000_01BF6F52.290D4480--    
(back) Subject: Sunday afternoon in Rochester (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:13:19 -0500   New Jersey theater organist Ralph Ringstad will play his third performance for the Rochester Theater Organ Society this Sunday afternoon, February = 6th at 2:30 p.m. The Auditorium Center, 875 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605 will be the place and a Wurlitzer 4/22 will be the instrument. = Tickets at only $10 each will go on sale at the box office starting at 1:30 p.m. = and the inside doors will open for admission 15 minutes later. This concert = will be this season's last afternoon presentation.   The complete RTOS 2000 concert schedule, Ralph Ringstad's biography, = driving directions, information about our 2 Wurlitzers and much more may be found = on our website at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ . For additional information email me by private reply.   We hope that you can join us for a wonderful way to spend this Sunday afternoon.   Regards, Ken Evans, RTOS President