PipeChat Digest #1268 - Tuesday, February 15, 2000
 
Re: Cavaille-Casavant (grin)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Hammonds
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Fw: dusty treasures, retired divas, and Rector vel fundamentus (you t
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame!
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame!
  by "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Cavaille-Casavant (grin)
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame!
  by "Roger" <rah@dircon.co.uk>
xpost: upcoming recording project - audio samples available
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
Re: Hammonds
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Hammonds
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: just stuff
  by "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: Hammonds
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Hammonds
  by "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: Hammonds
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Pipes and parts avalable
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Pipes and parts avalable
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Hammonds
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
 



(back) Subject: Re: Cavaille-Casavant (grin) From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:31:52 -0500 (EST)     >I have pleaded for YEARS for folks to GO TO > THE LITERATURE when they design an > organ ... if you want to build an organ for the > Lutheran service that will play primarily music > of the German baroque, then those organs > have certain stops and certain sounds....   Bus, Remember, this is for a Methodist store. They haven't a clue as to tradition or appropriate sounds, liturgy: everything is "in the now". Just about anything will do.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida   http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/rohrschok8/OrganMusicLibrary    
(back) Subject: Hammonds From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:05:05 -0000   Dear List,   I was in the music shop the other day, and in there I saw an electric = piano, quite up-to-date. I noticed on it that it had a "Virtual Drawbar", so now they are trying to mimic what originally tried to mimic an organ!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: dusty treasures, retired divas, and Rector vel fundamentus (you transla... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:02:00 -0000   >At 08:21 PM 2/8/2000 -0000, you wrote: >>"I am tightening the rope on contemporary music". Luckily we haven't = >seen >this rope yet!!!<snip> > >Hopefully, he's talking about the CCM drivel that pandemic these days. = The >next qustion is, when will he lynch it for good?? > >dB     I think he may have just been annoyed that we had the Langlaid Messe Solonelle down for Christmas Day! (It did go really well though!).   Richard    
(back) Subject: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame! From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:10:49 -0000   Dear List,   I was on a French website the other day about the organ of Notre-Dame in Paris. not being a Francophile myself, I used: http://translator.go.com to translate it into English. The spec it gave of Notre-Dame was wonderful, complete with Bumblebee's = and Tuning Forks!!! If you want the address it is: http://www.stud.enst.fr/%7Ebbonnet/orgue.html Here there is a list of many French organs.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame! From: "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:31:09 -0800   I LOVE it ... "The Main Thing 16' " ... but WHAT, pray, is an "unda = HUSBANDS" (grin)? Just goes to prove what I've said all along ... the French are = CRAZY (grin) ... they don't even make sense in TRANSLATION!   Cheers,   Bud   P.S. - The translation site, on the other hand, is WONDERFUL   Richard Pinel wrote:   > Dear List, > > I was on a French website the other day about the organ of Notre-Dame in > Paris. not being a Francophile myself, I used: > http://translator.go.com > to translate it into English. > The spec it gave of Notre-Dame was wonderful, complete with Bumblebee's = and > Tuning Forks!!! > If you want the address it is: > http://www.stud.enst.fr/%7Ebbonnet/orgue.html > Here there is a list of many French organs. > > Richard > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Cavaille-Casavant (grin) From: <MWORGLBAU@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:07:49 EST   Dear Bud and list,   "I've heard good things about Casavant's new tonal director (who's = also Curator of Organs for the City of Paris, or something like that)."   Jean-Louis Coignet, the tonal director of Casavant has actually been around for quite a long time. If memory serves me correctly, he started working for Casavant in the late 70's and became the tonal director in the =   early 80's. He holds the titles of Organ Expert for the city of Paris, and =   technical council for historic organs for the ministry of culture for the =   Republic of France.     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.  
(back) Subject: Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame! From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:03:09   At 11:31 AM 2/14/2000 -0800, you wrote: >I LOVE it ... "The Main Thing 16' " ... but WHAT, pray, is an "unda HUSBANDS"<snip>   The "Show 8'" and the various "bumblebees" were my favorites, along with the "Supply IV"! Computers are a riot! The "smarter" people try to make them, the dumber they get!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame! From: "Roger" <rah@dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:39:25 -0000   Well done, Richard! There's even a four-foot blowtorch on the pedals - presumably illustrated by the picture next to the listing of the pedal divisions. Now, I always knew that there must be a reason for having = those horizontal pipes on an organ ......   Roger Hedley Watford UK ---------- From: Richard Pinel <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: The Alternative Specification of Notre-Dame! Date: 14 February 2000 19:10   Dear List,   I was on a French website the other day about the organ of Notre-Dame in Paris. not being a Francophile myself, I used: http://translator.go.com to translate it into English. The spec it gave of Notre-Dame was wonderful, complete with Bumblebee's = and Tuning Forks!!! If you want the address it is: http://www.stud.enst.fr/%7Ebbonnet/orgue.html Here there is a list of many French organs.   Richard    
(back) Subject: xpost: upcoming recording project - audio samples available From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:01:28 -0800   Hi lists,   I apologize for the multiple postings for those on more than one of these lists...   I am starting a recording project of organ music of the 20th Century Germans/Austrians - Hermann Schroeder, Joseph Ahrens, Johann Nepomuk = David, Harald Genzmer I am focusing on these to start, and later I'll expand it = to others (Doppebauer, Reda, Trexler, Kropfreiter, Heiller, Pepping etc.) I would be glad to share sample RealAudio or mp3 files to any of you who = might be willing to give me some feedback. There will be about 1 or 2 files a week, available as a email file attachment. Let me know privately if you are interested.   Cheers,   Jonathan Orwig FBC Riverside, CA - USA http://home.earthlink.net/~giwro/index.htm (personal) http://evensong.homepage.com/ (Music Publishing)    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:51:35 -0600   Richard Pinel wrote:   > Dear List, > > I was in the music shop the other day, and in there I saw an electric = piano, > quite up-to-date. I noticed on it that it had a "Virtual Drawbar", so = now > they are trying to mimic what originally tried to mimic an organ!!!   While Hammonds, and other electronic synthesysers with preset sounds = intended to call to mind organ pipes, are marketed as substitutes for pipe organs, the = fact is that these devices are legitimate instruments in their own right.    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:22:05 -0500 (EST)     >I was in the music shop the other day, and in > there I saw an electric piano, quite up-to-date. >I noticed on it that it had a "Virtual Drawbar", I hate to appear interested in these things, but curiosity has gotten the best of me. What the @$# is a "virtual drawbar?" And, what is the purpose of having ONE drawbar?   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida   http://community.webtv.net/cremona84000/ALLHAILTHEPOWERand http://community.webtv.net/hydrant/TheBeaglesNest http://community.webtv.net/rohrschok8/OrganMusicLibrary    
(back) Subject: Re: just stuff From: "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:48:07 -0600   No John, I don't. You might check with the V. Fox Society.   ----- Original Message ----- From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:12 AM Subject: Re: just stuff     > Hi, > since you seemed to be a collector of Fox' stuff. (I love him too) > > John V > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 18:39:21 -0800     >> I was in the music shop the other day, and in >> there I saw an electric piano, quite up-to-date. >> I noticed on it that it had a "Virtual Drawbar", > I hate to appear interested in these things, but curiosity has gotten > the best of me. What the @$# is a "virtual drawbar?" > And, what is the purpose of having ONE drawbar? > Is that when you mediate and visualize a drawbar? Or when you use special glasses to see it?   Ha! Ha! Ha! ... oh, forgive me!   Jason    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 20:58:17 -0600   A drawbar is a specialty device one uses to tow a trailer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason McGuire <jason@johannus-norcal.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Hammonds     > > t that it had a "Virtual Drawbar", > > > > > > > Jason > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:09:15 -0600   At 2/14/00 08:58 PM, Jim wrote:   >A drawbar is a specialty device one uses to tow a trailer.   Thanks, Jim!! How nice to know that SOMEBODY finally came up with a good use for the d*** things!!! <G>   Tim      
(back) Subject: Pipes and parts avalable From: <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:17:50 EST   Hello eveyone, I have collected so much pipe organ parts that I have to get rid of = some of it, and I'm letting it go very cheap. If you have any questions about anything, please don't hesitate to contact me privately. I'm glad to = answer questions you have about the appropriateness of any stops that might work = in your project. Here is the list:   Pipes: 8' Viol Diap. bass pipes, broken set, abour 14 pipes $15 8' Dulciana Hook and Hastings, need cleaning $250 8' Diapason W. A. Johson 1865, poor condition $50 8' Gamba, Hook and Hastings, need a good cleaning $50 8' St'd Diap, W. A. Johnson 1865 $175 8' Flute Celeste II broken rank and damaged pipes E. M. Skinner 1922 $100 4' Melodia (tapered), unknown $35 4' Gross Flute, broken rank, Estey $30 4' Gedeckt, Metal, was quintadena, Aeolian 37p $150 4' Bourdon, M. P. Moller, spotted metal $300 4' Octave, parts of W. A. Johnson 1865 $70 2' Harmonic Flute Hook and Hastings, needs work some pipes missing $60 4' Principal, unknown, spotted, made of a couple of different ranks, one fill in bass pipe. $120 4' R. Flute (wood), broken, Austin $30 1 3/5' Tierce broken, pipes need work, would work good as a mixture rank, principal tone) $50 8' String Basses, Aeolian Co. $20 8' Vox, Pilcher (resonators missing, good blocks, reeds tounges, shalotts, boots) $75 8' Vox , C. Beutrey (painted silver) $75 Various wood pipes $30 8' Melodia bass, 12 st'd, 15 open, a few st'd pipes seem to be different scale, but blend well $35 Various common and spotted pieps $20 12 note treble to st'd flute, inv. mouths $15   Parts: 2m keyboard wicks, no springs $50 2m keyboard Hook, slight damage, ivory $75 2m keyboard mechanical, very good, may be Simmons $100 1/2 hp spencer, like new $450 1 stop 73n ep, unknown builder $120 1 stop 73n ep, " " $120 walnut bench, rail missing, needs finishing $30 32n pedalboard, ok condition $50 reed org, keyboard incomplete, great ivories $40 Pallet springs (44), from 1865 Johnson $20 Aeolian Magnets (61) $75 Flex tubing, various lengths and dia., approx 30 ft. $15 Lead/Tin metal, about 50 lbs. $20 Klann stopkey unit, for parts, $20 2 feeders, $40 Small res , Moller, for swell shades $70 Pipe Trays, various sizes $10/each Wood squares from 1865 Johnson, many broken $20 for all of them Pipe tray racks, for approx. 28 trays $50 12 note, 5 stop slider chest, new, but not great cond. $100 Various cast flanges $20 for all Rack pins, about 50, from 1865 Johnson $20 for all 2 stop pedal chest, Aeolian Co. $100     As usual, packing costs $10/hr plus lumber for crates if I run out of = wood. Most Items can be shipped UPS.   -William Catanesye  
(back) Subject: Pipes and parts avalable From: <Prestant16@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:21:27 EST   Hello eveyone, I have collected so much pipe organ parts that I have to get rid of = some of it, and I'm letting it go very cheap. If you have any questions about anything, please don't hesitate to contact me privately. I'm glad to = answer questions you have about the appropriateness of any stops that might work = in your project. Here is the list:   Pipes: 8' Viol Diap. bass pipes, broken set, abour 14 pipes $15 8' Dulciana Hook and Hastings, need cleaning $250 8' Diapason W. A. Johson 1865, poor condition $50 8' Gamba, Hook and Hastings, need a good cleaning $50 8' St'd Diap, W. A. Johnson 1865 $175 8' Flute Celeste II broken rank and damaged pipes E. M. Skinner 1922 $100 4' Melodia (tapered), unknown $35 4' Gross Flute, broken rank, Estey $30 4' Gedeckt, Metal, was quintadena, Aeolian 37p $150 4' Bourdon, M. P. Moller, spotted metal $300 4' Octave, parts of W. A. Johnson 1865 $70 2' Harmonic Flute Hook and Hastings, needs work some pipes missing $60 4' Principal, unknown, spotted, made of a couple of different ranks, one fill in bass pipe. $120 4' R. Flute (wood), broken, Austin $30 1 3/5' Tierce broken, pipes need work, would work good as a mixture rank, principal tone) $50 8' String Basses, Aeolian Co. $20 8' Vox, Pilcher (resonators missing, good blocks, reeds tounges, shalotts, boots) $75 8' Vox , C. Beutrey (painted silver) $75 Various wood pipes $30 8' Melodia bass, 12 st'd, 15 open, a few st'd pipes seem to be different scale, but blend well $35 Various common and spotted pieps $20 12 note treble to st'd flute, inv. mouths $15   Parts: 2m keyboard wicks, no springs $50 2m keyboard Hook, slight damage, ivory $75 2m keyboard mechanical, very good, may be Simmons $100 1/2 hp spencer, like new $450 1 stop 73n ep, unknown builder $120 1 stop 73n ep, " " $120 walnut bench, rail missing, needs finishing $30 32n pedalboard, ok condition $50 reed org, keyboard incomplete, great ivories $40 Pallet springs (44), from 1865 Johnson $20 Aeolian Magnets (61) $75 Flex tubing, various lengths and dia., approx 30 ft. $15 Lead/Tin metal, about 50 lbs. $20 Klann stopkey unit, for parts, $20 2 feeders, $40 Small res , Moller, for swell shades $70 Pipe Trays, various sizes $10/each Wood squares from 1865 Johnson, many broken $20 for all of them Pipe tray racks, for approx. 28 trays $50 12 note, 5 stop slider chest, new, but not great cond. $100 Various cast flanges $20 for all Rack pins, about 50, from 1865 Johnson $20 for all 2 stop pedal chest, Aeolian Co. $100     As usual, packing costs $10/hr plus lumber for crates if I run out of = wood. Most Items can be shipped UPS.   -William Catanesye  
(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:13:00 -0800   At 09:22 PM 2/14/2000 -0500, bruce cornely wrote: >I hate to appear interested in these things, but curiosity has gotten >the best of me. Oh come on, Bruce....they can't be worse than Baldwin schpinettes. ;-> (Please forgive me, I'm opening for DeserTBoB this evening. hehe)   > What the @$# is a "virtual drawbar?" I'd rather not think about that quality of clone...it's a little like a Casio saying "pipe organ". I'll say my final answer is "part of a $50 B-3 fantasy most Hammsters have". :)   >And, what is the purpose of having ONE drawbar? Two words: spinet pedals. ;->   Have fun! Ad ;-> Hammond E & CV, Korg CX-3 clone (with real drawbars)