PipeChat Digest #1219 - Sunday, January 9, 2000
 
New Organ
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: New Organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: New Organ
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: New Organ
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Dulciana Cornet
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Max Drischner
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
RE: New Organ
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
New mailing list (X-Posted)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Fw: New Organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Universal Windchest.
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Redman Pipe Organs
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Universal Windchest.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Universal Windchest.
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
 



(back) Subject: New Organ From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 06:13:02 EST   Organ Supply Industries has delivered our new 7 rank organ, designed by me =   and Randy Wagner of OSI. It replaces a 1980's vintage Allen. It is = installed in our 80-seat gothic chapel, a little sister to the 5/103 Schantz/Skinner = in the Sanctuary. It is divided into two chests on either side of a = magnificent stained glass window in the back. The facade is 1-14 of the 8' Principle, =   1-14 of the 8' Hohlflute (metal), and 1-12 of the 9' Viola, all painted = gold. The console is in the front.   Resources and disposition:   16' Rohrflute (1-24 wood) 8' Principle 8' Hohlflute 8' Viola 8' Celeste (TC) 4' Gemshorn 8' Trompette   Man I 8 Principle 8 Rohrflute 8 Viola 4 Principle 4 Hohlflute 2 2/3 Rohrflute 2 Gemshorn   Man II 8 Hohlflute 8 Viola 8 Celeste 4 Gemshorn 4 Rohrflute 2 Hohlflute 8 Trompette   Ped 16 Gedeckt 8 Principle 8 Hohlflute 4 Gemshorn 4 Rohrflute 8 Trompette   I/Ped II/Ped II/I II/4' Trems (2) 4 pistons per division Multiplex relay w/99 levels of memory (way overkill, but the least = available!)   If I can get it tuned, we'll hear it Sunday at the early (8:30) service!   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant (looking for part time music associate to play these wonderful organs!)  
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:00:37 -0500   What....no xylophone?      
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:24:56 -0500 (EST)   Stephen, Congrats on the new organ. Sounds nifty! You don't have to tune it the first week, just play modern music!   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:57:34 -0600   No..the tuned wine-glasses are back ordered... :-) -----Original Message----- From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 7:01 AM Subject: Re: New Organ     >What....no xylophone? > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Dulciana Cornet From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:16:20 -0000   >Hugh, I'm looking at the current stop-list for Durham Cathedral's >WILLIS(!)-harrison, and cannot see the Dulciana Cornet you refer to. >However, my list seems to have added nothing since 1970, and you may be >right. There *is* a Cornet de Violes of three ranks (10,12,15) in the >Solo division, together with several eight footers that look as though >they could work as a foundation for it. Both Positif and Choir divisions >have enough appropriate mutational stuff to assemble a Cornet, but I can >find no Dulciana Cornet as such. >However, I do have a 'spy' in there, and next time I see him, I'll tell >him to go and have a look!     If you remind me in July 2000 I can tell you because in August I am = singing services there for a week (not on my own of course(!) but with my church choir).   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Max Drischner From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:24:54 -0000   >anyone out there able to translate the words of "O Run Ye Shepherds" as well >as some of his other titles? I'm planning a concert of all Max Drischner >pieces and I need the english titles for all his compositions. Thanks. > >Carlo     I'm afraid that I am no linguist, but I find that this is a handy tool: http://translator.go.com   Hope it helps,   Richard.    
(back) Subject: RE: New Organ From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:26:51 -0600   S:   Principle [sic]? :-)   Peter   8' Principle,   8' Principle 8' Hohlflute 8' Viola 8' Celeste (TC) 4' Gemshorn 8' Trompette   Man I 8 Principle 8 Rohrflute 8 Viola 4 Principle 4 Hohlflute 2 2/3 Rohrflute 2 Gemshorn   Man II 8 Hohlflute 8 Viola 8 Celeste 4 Gemshorn 4 Rohrflute 2 Hohlflute 8 Trompette   Ped 16 Gedeckt 8 Principle 8 Hohlflute 4 Gemshorn 4 Rohrflute 8 Trompette    
(back) Subject: New mailing list (X-Posted) From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:59:33 -0600   After some discussion among several owners/builders of their own home pipe organs a new mailing list has been set-up for those involved in their own home pipe organ projects. The primary focus will be to be able to ask questions and share information between ourselves. The new list is called DIYAPASON-L and is being hosted on the pipechat.org server.   This new list will be heavily moderated to keep the postings ON-TOPIC and we are attempting to keep the subscription base to those who fall into this category. However, others, like suppliers to those amateurs and those folks that haven't started building a pipe organ for their home (but are in the stages of thinking about it) are also welcome. Please note that the list topics include pipe organ installations only -- loudspeaker instruments are covered elsewhere at EORG-L. To keep the subscriber base to these categories the subscription process for this list is being done manually.   For more information and to learn how to subscribe to the list please visit our web site at: http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org/. To subscribe, please follow the instructions at the bottom of the home page and say in your note sent to the list owner that you AGREE to the Charter.   Since over the last couple of weeks, it seems that there have been several members of the general organ mailing lists that have identified themselves as owners of their own pipe organs I hope that we will be seeing you on this new list.   Thank you for your time. If you have any questions please address them to me using the list owner address of: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org   David Scribner Owner - DIYAPASON-L  
(back) Subject: Fw: New Organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:19:00 -0500   Then, how 'bout an Estey glass harp?   Rick   ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon C. Habermaas <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 1:57 PM Subject: Re: New Organ     > No..the tuned wine-glasses are back ordered... :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: New Organ > > > >What....no xylophone? > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Universal Windchest. From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:28:33 -0500   Can you build a Universal Windchest (the large old Austin wind rooms) without pulling some legal things or do you have to contact the Austin Organ company and ask permission to build it?   The present organ at my church is at it's last leg (so you's all know) and to improve the speech of the divisions, you have to get them out from behind the bottom of the facade. If we move the divisions onto the same level with the top of the rackboards even with the top of the lower facade, we will have all of that space wasted. (besides the reservoirs)     This is what I have proposed to the board:   If we place both divisions on the same level just above the bottom portion of the facade, then the Great Chorus will be able to speak more clearly and the Swell will stay in tune better with the Great. Then with the pedal pipes on that same level, their speech will improve. Presently, the Pedal pipes are buried in the back and bottom of the chamber behind a solid facade wall and some reservoirs. The organ shakes, but the building does not. If the Pedal pipes (a 16' Bourdon, 16' Open Wood, 8' Open Diapason (part of it is the facade), and an 8' Open Bass Flute) are placed higher in the chamber, then the entire building will respond to the pedals better. However, the 7' of the chamber behind the bottom facade will be wasted. They suggested storage, but I know for a fact that the codes in this area will not allow storage aaround the organ. I suggested that they can kill two birds with one stone.   Instead of releathering the 1913 Moller bar and membrane chests (a timley and tedious undertaking) and to solve the problems of the underpressure when more stops are added, (ventils) they can make a Universal Windchest. This would sit on the floor of the chamber. The bottom facade would be attached to this. The speaking part of the facade (the 8' Pedal Open Diapason) would then be built into the windchest and be fed directly off the windchest. That would also solve the problem of the leaking facade windchest which has givven the entire facade pipes speech problems and the wind leaks (which a majority of them come from). They liked the idea but were wondering about the reservoirs. I told tham that they would only need one large concussion bellows and probably a static reservoir. Since the windchest would take up every inch of space in the chamber floor, I told them that the regulator would go on the ceiling in the hall below the chest. The ceiling has a drop ceiling and there is about 4' of wasted space. The drop ceiling was installed to save money on repairing falling 100+ year old plaster. The Blower would be located in the little (well not THAT little about 10'hx5'wx9'd) storage room that is completely empty except for the old computers that are outdated and the static reservoir would be on the ceiling feeding up to the chest. The air intake would be a grate in the ceiling of the blower room which is the one 3'x3' path in the chamber the choir uses to enter the choirloft from the hall. The blower would draw tempered air from the chamber and deliver it to the static reservoir then into the chest and the large concussion bellow would regulate the wind.   The church was just wondering if they would have to purchase some legal copyright grants for patent grants for something before the chest was built.   The action has already been desided on. Direct-Electric action. One valve per pipe with generous expansion cells.   Above the two divisions, there is plenty of room for two or even three more divisions. Those would be winded off the Universal Windchest through a couple of 12"dia. windlines (PVC????) and that air would be stored in it's own universal windchest (only about 2' tall) with the concussions bellows in the ceilings of the divisions below them.   I think that J.T. Austin would be proud of the installation!   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Redman Pipe Organs From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 07:31:49 -0600   ANNOUNCING OUR NEW WEB SITE FOR REDMAN ORGANS: http://www.imagin.net/~rredman Please visit us! Roy Redman    
(back) Subject: Re: Universal Windchest. From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 21:26:14   At 06:28 PM 1/8/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Can you build a Universal Windchest (the large old Austin wind rooms) >without pulling some legal things or do you have to contact the Austin >Organ company and ask permission to build it?<snip>   It hinges of whether the church does it itself, or if you build it and sell it to them. If you build and sell a product that's covered by someone else's patent, you would be guilty of patent infringement. However, if one were to build a device covered by said patent for one's own use, patent laws do not apply...so long as said device is not sold.   Be advised: The Austin "Universal Chest" is a great windchest design, but you have to use aged wood to avoid shrinkage, and woodworking must of the highest order of craftsmanship, in order to make it air tight. This is no mean feat! Also, you'll have to resort to "channeled" tremulants on solo reeds; the fan tremulant trick only works to a point. For that, you could just mount cheap ceiling fans under the valves, and make their pitch "feathered".   You are right about one thing: Trying to releather the old M=F6ller bar-and-membrane chests is an exercise in futility. Even trading "up" to used, later M=F6ller chests would be an advantage, but then, you've got all that leather to deal with. Direct electric action does have great advantages in durability, and I'd be willing to bet late into the 21st century, a good deal more Wickses will be playing without rebuilding than anything else. More than likely, those e/p organs that fail will be scrapped and replaced with digital instruments.   Oh yes: Add a 90% ASHRAE-rated filter rack to the blower's input, which uses the disposable "bag" air filters, such as those made my Farr, American Air Filter, or other HVAC suppliers. The lack of meaningful filtration on blower inlets in this age is just plain foolish. Forget hardware store furnace filters; they're only rated at 10% removal of all incoming matter in standard tests. RCMH has had state-of-the-art intake filtration on its KimballiTzer (WurliBall?) since Day 1, and the reliability of that organ is legendary.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Universal Windchest. From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 21:21:48 -0800   > Can you build a Universal Windchest (the large old Austin wind rooms) > without pulling some legal things or do you have to contact the Austin > Organ company and ask permission to build it?   It's my understanding that this is their patented design, so if would seem to me that you would need permission ... best to contact them directly I would think.   Jason McGuire