PipeChat Digest #1221 - Tuesday, January 11, 2000
 
Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music?
  by "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
The Preachers and the Rose Bud
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
What is the world coming to????
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music?
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: What is the world coming to????
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music?
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: What is the world coming to????
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music?
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: What is the world coming to????
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: What is the world coming to????
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
recording permission
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music?
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: What is the world coming to????
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 



(back) Subject: Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music? From: "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:02:14 -0800   Oh, my! There's a TON of stuff -- good, bad, and indifferent. Things I use = a lot:   Benoit - Elevations (2 vols) - J. Fischer Rossini - The Liturgical Organist (the volumes marked "Longer = Compositions" ... there are scads of volumes, but only two [I think] marked "Longer = Compositions") Langlais - Suite Medievale, Pieces pour Harmonium (2 vols), Neuf Pieces = (?) Franck - L'Organiste - get the "corrupt" edition by Tournemire (2 vols, = pub. Enoch) ... there's stuff in that that's not in the "pure" Kalmus edition Tournemire - L'Orgue Mystique - MANY volumes, and EXPENSIVE, but the = Offertories, Elevations and Communions are WONDERFUL, and about the right length for = services .... if you can't afford the whole thing, you might start with the volumes = for major feasts ... it covers the whole liturgical year. Frescobaldi - Fiori musicali - the slow toccatas and elevations Muffat - Apparaticus musico-organisticus, or something like that -- it's = at the church - the slow toccatas Boellmann - Pieces pour Harmonium Dubois - Pieces pour Harmonium Music for the Communion Service (?) - yellow cover, pub. Concordia Music for Weddings - the green and orange one - pub. Concordia Vierne - slow movements of the Symphonies Widor - slow movements of the Symphonies ed. various - The "Climax" Albums of Pieces for Harmonium (many volumes, = pub. Paxton in England) ed. various - many volumes of Voluntaries, etc., pub. Oxford Univ. Press Guilmant - The Liturgical Organist (the new reprint of the French edition) Guilmant - The Practical Organist - ditto Guilmant - slow movements of the Sonatas - ditto Rheinberger - slow movements of the Sonatas Reger - there are scads of unknown soft Reger pieces, reprinted by Kalmus = ... some easy, some not Reger - Chorale Preludes, Op. 100 (?) - the brown book, med. to difficult, = but mostly SHORT Karg-Elert - lots of Chorale-Preludes (pub. ???) - same folks that publish = the Widor Symphonies ... forget the name   That should get you started (grin) ...   Cheers,   Bud     Oboe32@aol.com wrote:   > Hey All, > Thank you to everyone who suggested music stores in the city, = I'll be > cruising by there tomorow. Now...I was curious about music that was soft = and > meditative, like Arias and Intermezzos. I know of the Flor Peeters Aria, = the > Callahan, the Manz, but that seems to be it. I was curious if there was > anything I should look for around that category and pieces for soft = flutes > and or strings. Any input would be MUCH appreciated! > > Thanx in advance, > Pete > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: The Preachers and the Rose Bud From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:27:27 EST   Now there's an idea! How about an inspirational version of the venerable "Moon River" program that once aired on WLW at midnight!   Soft organ music, gospel and/or classical, providing background Helen = Steiner Rice type of poems and scriptural readings. It can be called "When the = Organ Plays at Midnight".   I like it!   Stan Krider   DRAWKNOB@aol.com recently wrote:     >My apologies that this is not organ related -- but it is rather nice...   >Perhaps someone could set this poem to music?     .... then dutchorgan@svs.net added:     >Franklin McCormmack on Chicago radio could have used this poem on the air   >with perhaps soft, subtle organ music in the background.      
(back) Subject: What is the world coming to???? From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:34:09 EST   Of course, we'll download scores and scores of scores.   Did that comment score with anyone's funny bone? Hehehe.   Stan Krider   Noel Stoutenburg informed us that:   >AOL is merging with Time Warner in a stock swap; this makes AOL one of   >the world's significant publishers of organ music, since Time Warner   >owns the imprints of Kalmus, Belwin, H. W. Gray, Summy Birchard....     >So, do you suppose we'll be able to download scores?  
(back) Subject: Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music? From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:53:56 -0600   At 7:02 PM -0800 1/10/00, Bud wrote: Oh, my! There's a TON of stuff -- good, bad, and indifferent. Things I use a lot:Bud   A VERY good list!!! Plenty to work from in there and much of it just right for church services. You sound like you have a library very similar to mine.   David  
(back) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to???? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:46:30   At 07:41 PM 1/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I don't like this mega-merger at all. It scares me, and I don't know >why.<snip>   What SHOULD scare you is when AOHell, a known usurious provider of half-baked online service (and thwarter of the judicial system), joins up with the right-wing, all-profit-motivated Time-Warner, the resulting cadre of beancounters will eventually find those little publishing houses that supply most of the US's organ music output, and decide that they're "not congruent with our business mission". Translated, that means, in BigBizzSpeak, "we don't like a lot of little outfits that turn modest profits, due to the duplication of resources invovled. We'd rather had = one BIG product line from ONE outfit, as that increases economies of scale and profitability." So, organ music would lose, but you could buy any rap = song lyric sheet you want!   Another fearful fact: broadcasting interests in this country, aided by offshore ultra-right-wing nut jobs like Rupert Murdoch, have been able to get rid of federal restrictions on how much media ownership they can have in a given market. In other words, fewer (richer) interests own more and more of television, radio and newspapers in more and more markets. Once control is centralized, it's no problem to have whomever these interests like elected to whatever office they choose. If the republicans aren't booted out of Congress, and aren't kept out of the White House this year, the prospects for a democratic society continuing in the US are as good as doomed.   Of course, that's *my* opinion...I COULD be wrong....NOT!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music? From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:58:11 -0500   If you want soft and meditative for flutes and strings, there's always Dom Paul Benoit's two collections of Elevations (at least one is in print). They are based on Gregorian mass themes but few would recognize them as such. When I had a substitute gig at a Presbyterian church here in DC, I was asked to play softly during the Pastoral Prayer :^p so that's what I used -- took about 2 pages per prayer.   Evie   At 09:37 PM 1/10/2000 -0500, Pete wrote: >Hey All, > Thank you to everyone who suggested music stores in the city, = I'll be >cruising by there tomorow. Now...I was curious about music that was soft = and >meditative, like Arias and Intermezzos. I know of the Flor Peeters Aria, = the >Callahan, the Manz, but that seems to be it. I was curious if there was >anything I should look for around that category and pieces for soft = flutes >and or strings. Any input would be MUCH appreciated! > > Thanx in advance, > Pete > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to???? From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:15:38 -0500   Okay, here's an idea for an Internet start-up company that no one will = want to buy out from under us: when Bob's scenario comes to pass, we make an offer for the copyrights involved (of course, in the case of Masters, Kalmus, etc., there aren't any). Then we make the music available from a Web site or 800 number. of course, we might lose enough money to become = an attractive takeover target, but how much money can you lose selling organ music even if you give it away? 8^)   Evie   At 08:46 PM 1/10/2000 +0000, Bob Scarborough wrote: > >What SHOULD scare you is when AOHell, a known usurious provider of >half-baked online service (and thwarter of the judicial system), joins up >with the right-wing, all-profit-motivated Time-Warner, the resulting = cadre >of beancounters will eventually find those little publishing houses that >supply most of the US's organ music output, and decide that they're "not >congruent with our business mission". Translated, that means, in >BigBizzSpeak, "we don't like a lot of little outfits that turn modest >profits, due to the duplication of resources invovled. We'd rather had = one >BIG product line from ONE outfit, as that increases economies of scale = and >profitability." So, organ music would lose, but you could buy any rap = song >lyric sheet you want! > >Another fearful fact: broadcasting interests in this country, aided by >offshore ultra-right-wing nut jobs like Rupert Murdoch, have been able to >get rid of federal restrictions on how much media ownership they can have >in a given market. In other words, fewer (richer) interests own more and >more of television, radio and newspapers in more and more markets. Once >control is centralized, it's no problem to have whomever these interests >like elected to whatever office they choose. If the republicans aren't >booted out of Congress, and aren't kept out of the White House this year, >the prospects for a democratic society continuing in the US are as good = as >doomed. > >Of course, that's *my* opinion...I COULD be wrong....NOT! > >DeserTBoB > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:04:41   At 07:02 PM 1/10/2000 -0800, Budgie wrote: >Oh, my! There's a TON of stuff -- good, bad, and indifferent. Things I = use a lot:<snip>   ....an EXCELLENT repertiore of contemplative, emotive literature! Hats = off to Bud for this fine compilation. Also, just remember to stay WAY away from anything from Lorenz... ;-)   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to???? From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:03:32 -0500 (EST)   you packed a lot into your post, DeserTBob, most of which I would have to say is not MY opinion. but I still don't like the merger, not one bit, no sirree.    
(back) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to???? From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:10:21 -0800   \ > Another fearful fact: broadcasting interests in this country, aided by > offshore ultra-right-wing nut jobs like Rupert Murdoch, have been able = to > get rid of federal restrictions on how much media ownership they can = have > in a given market. In other words, fewer (richer) interests own more = and > more of television, radio and newspapers in more and more markets. Once > control is centralized, it's no problem to have whomever these interests > like elected to whatever office they choose. If the republicans aren't > booted out of Congress, and aren't kept out of the White House this = year, > the prospects for a democratic society continuing in the US are as good = as > doomed. > This is sort of what I was alluding to ... you were just a lot more = direct. Is it a carefully crafted tear down of democracy? Let's hope not.   JM  
(back) Subject: recording permission From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:20:39 -0500 (EST)   Friends, several months back (might have been last year) someone (in one of these lists) mentioned an organization in NYC that works out permission details for choirs/churches wishing to record performances of concerts and such, particularly dealing with obtaining permission for several different pieces.   If you have the name of the company, along w/ phone #, email, etc., please e-mail me privately.   Your assistance is apprec.   Neil Innkawgneeto@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Soft/Meditative Organ Music? From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:27:23 EST   Greetings,   stuff that comes to mind:   Fountain Reverie---Percy E. Fletcher Traumerei---Robert Schumann Jesu, Joy......---Bach Air on G-string---Bach Arioso in A---Bach   Carlo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: What is the world coming to???? From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:11:56   At 01:03 AM 1/11/2000 -0500, you wrote: >you packed a lot into your post, DeserTBob, most of which I would have >to say is not MY opinion.<snip>   Wassamatta you? GOP =3D big bizz money...it's that simple! All the right-wing christian crap is just camoflage....   BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!