PipeChat Digest #1241 - Thursday, January 27, 2000
 
Re: RC standards
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: "virile" organs
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
an apology, sort of
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique
  by <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
 



(back) Subject: Re: RC standards From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:17:37   At 08:05 AM 1/26/2000 EST, you wrote: > >St Charles Borromeo in North >Hollywood.<snip>   A great parish church. Don't they have a Casavant, same vintage as = Blessed Sacrament's in Hollywood? Blessed Sacrament used to have a good music program, too, at least years ago. It was the home of Richard Keyes Biggs back when my mother was a young parishoner there. My grandfolks donated lots of money towards the new (1953) sanctuary, even after they moved to Laguna Beach in 1947. I heard a disturbing rumor that the parish, always = a Jesuit "mission" parish, got invaded by the "Mahoney Mafia", and is now diocesan. "Perish" the thought! <snark snark>   A pastor there when I lived in the parish was one Fr. Van der Ahe, S.J., from none other than the founders of the Vons supermarket chain. Michael Williamson of Williamson/Warne in Hollywad reported awhile back that the Casavant at B.S. is in sad shape, indeed, due to diocesan neglect. In = past years, the Jesuits would have told Mahoney where to pound sand. Mahoney's ultra-right-wing predecessor, the nefarious Cardinal MacIntyre, tried = often to drive the Sisters of the Immaculate Heart from the parish school, thinking them to be communists or something. MacIntyre was an "FBI" (foreign born Irish).   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: "virile" organs From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:36:51   At 11:09 AM 1/26/2000 -0800, you wrote:   >the women got all up in arms about it because it was a "phallic symbol of >male patriarchy and domination" (N.B. - it didn't HAVE any pipes, so I >don't know where they got the "phallic" part ... grin!). Go figure = ...<snip>   Well, there are nuts in EVERY jar, whether the jar be RC, MCC, Methodist, Unitarian-Univeraslist...whatever! Perhaps that's why many of us call the nave the "peanut gallery"? <chortle!>   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:52:16   At 04:17 PM 1/25/2000 -0800, you wrote:   >(not the World Library reprint ... sigh ... I could have bought >THOSE for $1 a volume when WLSM went under ... <snip>   Ah, yes...WLSM. Did any RC folks use that grey "People's Mass" hynmal = when it came out? It was pretty tawdry compared to what other denominations had, but...after seeing the "gee-tar" mass books that came from other sources, "People's Mass" wasn't all that bad! At LEAST it had the basics, like "Ein Feste Burg", "Old 100th", and other chestnuts which, prior to "People's Mass", most Catholics didn't have a clue existed.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:26:29 -0800   I taught the folks at Madonna of the Rosary in Cleveland every single = singable song in the Peoples' Mass Book, the Mass settings, and four or five others besides ... it wasn't bad at all for a starting place, since Cleveland's diocesan hymnal was a real bow-wow (with apologies to the bow-wows of the world).   Cheers,   Bud   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 04:17 PM 1/25/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > >(not the World Library reprint ... sigh ... I could have bought > >THOSE for $1 a volume when WLSM went under ... <snip> > > Ah, yes...WLSM. Did any RC folks use that grey "People's Mass" hynmal = when > it came out? It was pretty tawdry compared to what other denominations > had, but...after seeing the "gee-tar" mass books that came from other > sources, "People's Mass" wasn't all that bad! At LEAST it had the = basics, > like "Ein Feste Burg", "Old 100th", and other chestnuts which, prior to > "People's Mass", most Catholics didn't have a clue existed. > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: an apology, sort of From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:35:06 -0800   I understand some folks wanted me removed from PipeChat for telling the truth.   OK, I apologize, this isn't a therapy chat, and you perhaps don't need (or want) to know the sordid details of my long and tempestuous relationship with the RC church.   BUT, all TOO often, as recent news stories have revealed, things like that get swept under the rug (doing a LOT of damage to a LOT of people), and they ARE things we have to deal with as church musicians.   Yes indeedy, it was a condition of continued employment in that particular parish. It was the early '60s ... there wasn't even a WORD for it yet, at least not in the RC hierarchy's vocabulary.   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Tournemire's L'Orgue Mystique From: <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 04:44:39 -0500   Someplace in my files I actually have have 2 accompaniment versions of = PMB, LOW and MED ranges. And of course the organ accompaniments to the gregorian commons in the back weren't bad either.   tom   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 04:17 PM 1/25/2000 -0800, you wrote: > > >(not the World Library reprint ... sigh ... I could have bought > >THOSE for $1 a volume when WLSM went under ... <snip> > > Ah, yes...WLSM. Did any RC folks use that grey "People's Mass" hynmal = when > it came out? It was pretty tawdry compared to what other denominations > had, but...after seeing the "gee-tar" mass books that came from other > sources, "People's Mass" wasn't all that bad! At LEAST it had the = basics, > like "Ein Feste Burg", "Old 100th", and other chestnuts which, prior to > "People's Mass", most Catholics didn't have a clue existed. > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org