PipeChat Digest #1246 - Sunday, January 30, 2000
 
Torben Krebs (Odense, Danmark) wanted
  by "Hans-Dieter Karras" <hans@hdkarras.de>
Re: Wicks in SS. Peter & Paul, Hamburg NJ
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
The word "Falan"
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
The organ in the Cathedral of St. Loius de Versailles
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by <Mattcinnj@aol.com>
Re: The word "Falan"
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Trivia....
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by <SProt82850@cs.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)(long)
  by "Greg Corbett" <corbettg@theatreorgans.com>
``Orgelwerke'' on the web!
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by <Cantuar@aol.com>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Falan Tidings
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Trivia....
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
 



(back) Subject: Torben Krebs (Odense, Danmark) wanted From: "Hans-Dieter Karras" <hans@hdkarras.de> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:19:27 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01BF6B3D.C7C7CB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Sorry list! This is off topic.   Dear Torben, please mail me private, i lost yout Email adress. =3D Important!   Hans-Dieter Karras Concertorganist, Composer, Pianist Alter Zeughof 2 D-38100 Braunschweig Germany   Tel.: 0531-17280 / B=3DFCro: 0531-17290 Fax: 0531-16906 / Mobil: 0177-2948727   Email: hans@hdkarras.de URL: http://www.hdkarras.de   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01BF6B3D.C7C7CB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sorry list! This is off =3D topic.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Torben, please mail me private, = i =3D lost yout=3D20 Email adress. Important!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hans-Dieter = Karras<BR>Concertorganist, =3D Composer,=3D20 Pianist<BR>Alter Zeughof 2<BR>D-38100 Braunschweig</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Germany</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tel.: 0531-17280 / B=3DFCro: =3D 0531-17290<BR>Fax:=3D20 0531-16906 / Mobil: 0177-2948727</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Email: <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:hans@hdkarras.de">hans@hdkarras.de</A><BR>URL: <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.hdkarras.de">http://www.hdkarras.de</A></FONT></DIV></= =3D BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002A_01BF6B3D.C7C7CB40--    
(back) Subject: Re: Wicks in SS. Peter & Paul, Hamburg NJ From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:53:27 -0600   This would be my failing. The specs are on my desk to be put onto the = Wicks web page, as should have been done already. I didn't get a photo of the assembled instrument, but I have some near completion pictures I can use = (I think I still have them) until we are sent some photos of the completed installation. It should be up by 5 pm central tomorrow. Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com brent@organwebring.com 254 Members can't all be wrong, but then again, I am behind in my work.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "J S Vanderstad" <dcob@nac.net> To: <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu>; <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <organchat@onelist.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Wicks in SS. Peter & Paul, Hamburg NJ     > Good Evening, Listers > > I was wondering if any of you could provide more information reguarding > the Wicks Opus 6381 (2000) at SS. Peter and Paul R. C. Church in > Hamburg, NJ. According to Allan Laufman's column in the AMerican > Organist Magazine the large gallery organ is controlled by a 3m console; > the 6 rank chancel organ has a 2 manual console. > > Can anyone provide me a specification, and if possible, contact me in > reguard to an appointment to play the organ? I am most curious because > Hamburg is a 30 min. drive north of where I am. > > Thanks to all in advance, > > Jan Vanderstad > Oak Ridge, NJ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:28:11 EST   Hey All, I proposed that we replace our 34 YEAR OLD toaster with the real thing. We have room, we have people, but the money... It always comes to = the money. My minsitries speak for themselves with the creation of 3 new = choirs in the last year! The kids LOVE the pipe across the street. I know that my =   congregation would just go crazy if we could get one. What I need is HELP = in proposing this to the congregation...materials...builder info...proposals from builders who have installed rebuilt instruments, and any stats on = Pipe vs. Electronics. I really need the help because I know these people can do =   it! Anyone with any info or help, please contact me. I'll pay for postage = of materials. I just need to present this in the right package to the church.   -Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:06:04   At 12:28 PM 1/30/2000 EST, you wrote: >Hey All, > I proposed that we replace our 34 YEAR OLD toaster with the real >thing.<snip>   34 years on ANY organ is a pretty good run these days! What kind of = toaster?   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: The word "Falan" From: "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:28:01 -0500 (EST)   In a couple of weeks we'll be singing an SAB anthem by Donald Pearson entitled "Falan Tidings". This may be iggerance, but I don't know what 'falan' means. Anyone? The word does not appear in the anthem text itself, so I can't guess from context.   TIA,     Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: The organ in the Cathedral of St. Loius de Versailles From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:55:55 -0500   To my friends on both lists:   I have recently bought a two CD set of music from Versailles on the French SM Label: SM D2489, comprising of a CD of Choral and Organ music on one CD, and music for harpsichord on the other.   The recordings are very good, and the French only notes are OK, with the exception that the organ is not mentioned, - the Organist and Choir get mentioned, but nothing at all about the organ,   If any-one on either of the lists has any information on the organ I would be very pleased to read it.   Many thanks,   Bob Conway "I am easily satisfied with the very best." Sir Winston Churchill.      
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:33:34 -0500   Pete: Would it help to take a few influencial people across the street, = let them hear the pipe, and tell them this is what we (you, they) want?   Money and interest was the same problem in Paducah,KY, but several deep-pockets paid for everything. Now, ALL are happy to have pipes = (again). Someone got a free ride on THAT deal!   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: <Mattcinnj@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:42:58 EST   This church is up the street from me. It is a much repaired 2 manual = Rodgers.  
(back) Subject: Re: The word "Falan" From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:08:47 -0800   Don's a friend of mine ... I just e-mailed him and asked him (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Stanley E Yoder wrote: > > In a couple of weeks we'll be singing an SAB anthem by Donald > Pearson entitled "Falan Tidings". This may be iggerance, but I don't > know what 'falan' means. Anyone? > The word does not appear in the anthem text itself, so I can't guess > from context. > > TIA, > > Stan Yoder > Pittsburgh > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Trivia.... From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:16:46 -0500   A week or so ago I watched Dianne Bish's TV program which took her to New Orleans and Baton Rouge. She played instruments in the Roman Catholic Cathedrals of both Cities. Can someone tell me something of the organs in both locales?     HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:48:56 EST   In a message dated 1/30/00 5:15:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com writes, in reference to the organs in cathedrals = in New Orleans and Baton Rouge, both played in one of Diane Bish's programs.:   << Can someone tell me something of the organs in both locales? >>   On PipOrg-L, there was rather a long thread which included a bit about St. =   Louis Cathedral in New Orleans. After the 1960 Houston AGO Convention, a = few of us Juilliard students drove home by way of New Orleans, on the strength = of a note in Joe Blanton's then just-published, wonderful book, The Organ in Church Design, to the effect that there were thought to be some = Cavaille-Coll ranks in that organ. We arrived on a Sunday, and discovered we were about = to be treated to an Organ Mass. We climbed to the organ balcony, where we = were welcomed by Elise Cambon, the venerable organist at the time and for many years thereafter. She played astonishing quantities of repertoire, all brilliantly and all from memory throughout the Mass. She allowed us to = take her to lunch, during which we grilled her for information about the organ, =   which appeared to be just another Moller. She knew only of the Moller, and = no history of earlier organs, but put me in touch with someone who would know =   such things. I cannot recall his name, having perhaps blocked it out, but = on the phone, he suggested there had been some "French Pipes" in the = instrument, and said he had watched the installers of the new organ gleefully stamping = on them in the church. The thread on PipOrg-L went deeply into the whole = subject of where Cavaille-Coll pipes and perhaps complete organs might have been found in this country. It could be worth a check of the archives.   I do not know if the Moller in the cathedral has been replaced. Perhaps = Hugh can tell us if it resembled a 60s Moller, although I cannot imagine Diane Bish going there for one of those!! It was not their finest decade.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: <SProt82850@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:57:24 EST   The organ in the cathedral in Baton Rouge is a relatively recent Reuter. = I played it last year during a brief trip to BR to measure University Methodist, which will get a 3-manual Reuter of about 50 ranks on slider chests. If you wish, I can research the spec and post it for subsequent reading.   Steven (Pipe organ architect for Reuter)  
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:25:50 -0500   Malcolm wrote: Perhaps Hugh can tell us if it resembled a 60s Moller, although I cannot imagine Diane Bish going there for one of those!! It was not their finest decade.   ...sorry, I don't have any visual experience with ' 60's Mollers. The aural experience, as enunciated by Ms. Bish would not put the instrument = on my "must see and listen too" list.   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <lon.hdrogemuller@wwdc.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:43:35 -0500   Steven wrote: >The organ in the cathedral in Baton Rouge is a relatively recent Reuter. = I >played it last year during a brief trip to BR to measure University >Methodist, which will get a 3-manual Reuter of about 50 ranks on slider >chests.   (SNIP) The appearance indicated a fairly recent instrument. Very honestly, can't say that, aurally, it took my breath away. I guess a case of different strokes for different folks. What a dull world it would be if we all liked the same.....(insert your choice)... my insert....(organ sounds).   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:03:14 EST   Hey Pete,   Send my a private post with your snail mail addredd. I have some = materials that may help you out.   Bill Hesterman  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church)(long) From: "Greg Corbett" <corbettg@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:13:43 -0800   I've been there and done that . . .except we bought a new toaster.   You have perceived the need, however that's a long way from commissioning a new instrument for worship. I don't know how your church administration is set up, ours is lay administration, so let the politics begin. Your involvement in the church, should already have identified the movers & shakers of the congregation (the most powerful ones usually do not hold posts, but in a fashion control those, in the posts).   1. Form a core group (including 1 or more movers & shakers), this group is the one to make the presentation to your church administration, of the need for a new organ. This is the most dangerous period, because at this point, you wish to make the need of a replacement instrument known .. . .but allow open discussion of all replacement instruments.   2. An organ (toaster) replacement committee should be struck by your administration, as a result of your fantastic presentation. This group should have the backbone of your core group, but others will join (usually someone from administration board & worship committee, etc.). If your core group was influential enough, there should still be control of the direction of this committee. The sole purpose of this committee, is to arrive at the conclusion, the best replacement instrument is a pipe organ (lucky you) like the one across the street. The research leading to this, should have the specifications, the most likely builders, and installed price (to completion). This presentation should be made to administration & congregation (separate presentations).   3. Since your presentation was FULLY successful with both groups, the committee should evolve to an Organ Replacement Committee (at this point we received authority to fund raise and purchase the instrument previously recommended). Now comes the hard work, fundraising! - There should be books written by each denomination, for the "allowable" fund raising activities (We had lots of great ideas shot down, because of moral issues, that people proposing had no idea existed!). Some highlights of our fundraising:   - was sell every key, stop, music stand, foot pedal, pedal boards, and pipes (our case, we didn't have pipes, so skipped selling pipe ranks). You need to get a LARGE picture of the console, set prices, and start selling . . .after every service, we have coffee, and there we were with our booth setup. In our case, this raised about $2000, but most importantly, kept us visible to the congregation (This is important, visibility).   - held lunch after service, this didn't raise much, but made contact with other groups like those in charge of the kitchen, and kept us visible.   - canvassed the community for goods, for a fundraising auction. This raised a handsome amount, probably the largest amount. We had volunteers outside our committee, to help, again visibility and communications.   - a local restaurant, had Sunday nights (usually pretty slow) set aside for non-profit groups to help out and a portion of the night's take would go to that group. I think it is fair to say, we swamped the restaurant, again visibility & communication.   - the money came pouring in because of our visibility, let out of the chutes in November, organ installed by March (fully paid for).   This worked for us, each case is different, amount required is different, etc. There was one important demand placed by the church administration, the present offering funds were not to diminish. So that message was told to the congregation several times in different ways, the end result was, the offering actually increased, because of our group demonstrating the needs of church, administration, and all. Bonus!   Good luck!    
(back) Subject: ``Orgelwerke'' on the web! From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:18:44 -0500   Tonight is ``Theatre Organ Night'' with Gaylord, Carter, Simon Gledhill, = and Tom Hazelton on Orgelwerke and you can hear it from 8pm to 9pm on WCNY's = web site - www.wcny.org   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:03:50 -0600   Check the materials available from APOBA. There is a booklet on = purchasing a pipe organ, and well as one on fund raising. Roy Redman   Oboe32@aol.com wrote:   > Hey All, > I proposed that we replace our 34 YEAR OLD toaster with the real > thing. We have room, we have people, but the money... It always comes to = the > money. My minsitries speak for themselves with the creation of 3 new = choirs > in the last year! The kids LOVE the pipe across the street. I know that = my > congregation would just go crazy if we could get one. What I need is = HELP in > proposing this to the congregation...materials...builder = info...proposals > from builders who have installed rebuilt instruments, and any stats on = Pipe > vs. Electronics. I really need the help because I know these people can = do > it! Anyone with any info or help, please contact me. I'll pay for = postage of > materials. I just need to present this in the right package to the = church. > > -Pete Isherwood > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: <Cantuar@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:24:39 EST   In a message dated 1/30/00 5:29:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Oboe32@aol.com = writes:   << Hey All, I proposed that we replace our 34 YEAR OLD toaster with the real thing. We have room, we have people, but the money... It always comes to = the money. My minsitries speak for themselves with the creation of 3 new = choirs in the last year! The kids LOVE the pipe across the street. I know that = my congregation would just go crazy if we could get one. What I need is HELP = in proposing this to the congregation...materials...builder info...proposals =   from builders who have installed rebuilt instruments, and any stats on = Pipe vs. Electronics. I really need the help because I know these people can = do it! Anyone with any info or help, please contact me. I'll pay for postage = of materials. I just need to present this in the right package to the = church. -Pete Isherwood >> where r u?  
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:31:36 -0600   At 7:03 AM -0600 1/30/00, Roy Redman wrote: >Check the materials available from APOBA. There is a booklet on = purchasing a >pipe organ, and well as one on fund raising. >Roy Redman   Roy has a good point there - check the APOBA (Associated Pipe Organ Builders of America) web site at: http://www.apoba.com/ There are a couple of their publications on-line.   David    
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:18:44 -0800   The organ in the Cathedral Basilica in New Orleans is a Moller ... I don't know the date. Legend has it that there was a Cavaille-Coll (Orgue du Choeur?) there originally, since a New Orleans agent appears on Cavaille-Coll's opus list. But there are no traces of it now, and the case of the Moller, while older than the organ, is not Cavaille-Coll. Elise Cambon was the organist for many years, successfully defending her loft against Vatican II and maintaining an excellent polyphonic choir.   Sorry, I don't know anything about Baton Rouge.   Cheers,   Bud   Hugh Drogemuller wrote: > > A week or so ago I watched Dianne Bish's TV program which took her to = New > Orleans and Baton Rouge. She played instruments in the Roman Catholic > Cathedrals of both Cities. > Can someone tell me something of the organs in both locales? > > HD > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Falan Tidings From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:25:07 -0800   Received the following response from the esteemed composer (grin) ... think he'd had a couple of gin and orange juices after his services today (evil grin):   "(expletive deleted), I just write the music...(expletive deleted) if I know....its an old English text....but it is a (expletive deleted) good...no, great piece...if I say so myself, but what composer doesn't love his music!!"   Don may perhaps be forgiven the (expletives deleted) ... I'm sure he has a VERY heavy schedule at the Cathedral (grin).   Cheers,   Bud, who USED to be able to drink Don under the TABLE at SMU (grin)  
(back) Subject: Re: Trivia.... From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:18:38 -0600   Otto Hofmann of Austin, TX rebuilt the Moller . I am not sure of the = date, but think it was in the 70s. He has told me that he found Pilcher markings = inside the case. Whether Pilcher of Louisville or Pilcher Bros. of New Orleans, = I do not know. We are currently restoring a small P. Bro built c 1890 in New Orleans for the old Ursaline Convent. It will go back to the second = convent church in the French Quarter, which is now called St. Mary's. The case = design and construction is very similar to the St. Louis Cathedral case. Another of the P. Bro. cases still exists in St. Stephen Catholic and is pictured in The Organ in Church Design by Joseph Blanton. Roy Redman   Quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > The organ in the Cathedral Basilica in New Orleans is a Moller ... I > don't know the date. Legend has it that there was a Cavaille-Coll (Orgue > du Choeur?) there originally, since a New Orleans agent appears on > Cavaille-Coll's opus list. But there are no traces of it now, and the > case of the Moller, while older than the organ, is not Cavaille-Coll. > Elise Cambon was the organist for many years, successfully defending her > loft against Vatican II and maintaining an excellent polyphonic choir. > > Sorry, I don't know anything about Baton Rouge. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Hugh Drogemuller wrote: > > > > A week or so ago I watched Dianne Bish's TV program which took her to = New > > Orleans and Baton Rouge. She played instruments in the Roman Catholic > > Cathedrals of both Cities. > > Can someone tell me something of the organs in both locales? > > > > HD > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: HELP!! (Organ Proposal to Church) From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:46:11 -0500 (EST)   Pete, Perhaps, since there is a pipe organ across the street, your choirs could do some choral programs over there, either alone or with their choir. Your congregation will hear the instrument and hopefully get excited about it.   I would not involve a builder at this point. Perhaps if you can find photographs of buildings similar to your with pipe organs in good installations to whet their appetite. The committee needs to become committed to the project, and, of course, the clergy. If the clergy wants the pipe organ and SUPPORTS it heartily, it's almost a done deal. If they're luke warm, you're in for a real battle, lots of hard work and possibly a new job! If you are going to hire an insultant, that would probably be the next step, before proposals are sought. I would say that it is very important to identify your needs, design a proposal(s) to fit it and then find a way to accomplish your goal. Raising the money first and then deciding how to "make do" is putting the cart before the horse. Best of luck.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida