PipeChat Digest #1485 - Saturday, July 1, 2000
 
Re:Ocean Grove Recitals
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
RE: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
need wiring diagram for a 2-6
  by "paul" <paulkruger@flashcom.net>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's 	vanished Hook/Austin
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /   Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /  	Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Fw: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / 	Cincinnati's vanished	 Hook/Austin
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Cincinnati's Hook-Austin
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6g=3D=3D-S /    Cincinnati's vanished Hook/
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
secular organs
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: secular organs
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Position Announcement (1st pres. Trenton)
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
1st Pres. Trenton (Spec.)
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /    Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /   Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /    Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /   Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: need wiring diagram for a 2-6
  by "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re:Ocean Grove Recitals From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:39:46 EDT   This year's series of recitals on the Ocean Grove, NJ Auditorium organ = start today with a performance by Michael Stairs of the Church of the Redeemer = Bryn Mawr, Pa and Gordon Turk Auditorium organist. Recitals are every Saturday = at 12:00 noon and Wednesday at 7:30 pm. Exceptions are today, Saturday 4:00 = pm instead of 12:00 noon and July 26, August 20 and 23 when there are no recitals. There are many guest artists including Mark Laubach, Roger Sayer =   and Carlo Sayer. As many of you know, this organ was Robert Hope Jones' magnum opus. It was originally approx. 18 ranks but has been enlarged to = well over 100 ranks. Most of the Hope Jones stuff is intact. This is all controlled by the old Longwood Gardens console, rebuilt, complete with = five manuals. I encourage every one who can to make it to a recital.   Alan B.  
(back) Subject: RE: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:20:44 -0500   Bob et al.:   I had a lengthy chat with Allen Walker, who lives in Boston, when he = was on piporg-l about this splendid instrument, which GDH referred to as a = scaled down version of the Mormon Taberbacle organ. As of a year ago, it was = being kept running on a minimal basis by Nelson Barden, but really cries out = for a serious overhaul. The present BSO management isn't committed to to = this as a priority project. Thus the organ is basically in storage in its own = home.   When Seiji Ozawa steps down as music director of the BSO next year, = things could change. =20   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:15 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S     And now, for something COMPLETELY different....   I've not heard anything of late of the disposition and use of the 1949 = =C6-S in Symphony Hall. I've heard this organ many times in my collection of =C6-S's house label LPs released in the '50s, and heard it in person = once in the early '70s. Is there any sort of recital program going on there, = or is the organ sadly moribund, another promising secular installation fallen victim to disuse by disinterested management?   Too far west to know anything Baaahstonian,   DeserTBoB   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: need wiring diagram for a 2-6 From: "paul" <paulkruger@flashcom.net> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:13:19 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01BFE355.BE9C41A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   wurlitzer opus 1658 style d list 500 have relays and all cable cut can = =3D some one help=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01BFE355.BE9C41A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>wurlitzer opus 1658 style d list 500&nbsp; have =3D relays and all=3D20 cable cut&nbsp; can some one help </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01BFE355.BE9C41A0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 09:39:03 -0700   Interesting, since Cleveland just spent a FORTUNE reviving their untouched = E.M. Skinner in Severance Hall. Maybe Baaahstun will have to catch up with the Joneses (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   "Storandt, Peter" wrote:   > Bob et al.: > > I had a lengthy chat with Allen Walker, who lives in Boston, when he was = on > piporg-l about this splendid instrument, which GDH referred to as a = scaled > down version of the Mormon Taberbacle organ. As of a year ago, it was = being > kept running on a minimal basis by Nelson Barden, but really cries out = for a > serious overhaul. The present BSO management isn't committed to to this = as > a priority project. Thus the organ is basically in storage in its own = home. > > When Seiji Ozawa steps down as music director of the BSO next year, = things > could change. > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Scarborough [mailto:desertbob@rglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 7:15 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S > > And now, for something COMPLETELY different.... > > I've not heard anything of late of the disposition and use of the 1949 = =C6-S > in Symphony Hall. I've heard this organ many times in my collection of > =C6-S's house label LPs released in the '50s, and heard it in person = once in > the early '70s. Is there any sort of recital program going on there, or = is > the organ sadly moribund, another promising secular installation fallen > victim to disuse by disinterested management? > > Too far west to know anything Baaahstonian, > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:33:36   At 10:20 AM 7/1/2000 -0500, you wrote: >When Seiji Ozawa steps down as music director of the BSO next year, = things >could change.<snip>   True, I would think. Ozawa has always appeared to be a Stravinsky = devotee, and as we all know, Stravinsky HATED the organ as an instrument.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:07:49 EDT   Dear Desert Bob:   I wonder if Ozawa hates trains too! Well, good riddance, Baaahstun may yet =   survive.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:21:20 -0700   I wonder if the general neglect of organs in American concert halls has something to do with some conductors wanting to push the pitch above = A=3D440 ... organs, obviously can't be easily re-tuned.   When the old Hook/Austin in Cincinnati's Music Hall was still in = existence, IT was tuned to 435, but the orchestra never bothered to tune down to it on = the rare occasions when it was used. When the organ entered it was always like = a cold shower (grin). Now they have a old wave-form Baldwin (!) which = requires CONSTANT attention, and it turned out that the space vacated by the pipe = organ couldn't be used for opera scenery or deepening the stage after all, since = it sat on a raised concrete shelf above the boiler room.   Fifty-something ranks of the organ went to Old St. Mary's, Cincinnati ... = a few were installed on the existing Austin chests ... the rest are = presumably still stored in the bell-tower. Theatre organ enthusiasts got most of the reeds, including a full-length 32' Bombarde; we got the flues and = mixtures, and a lovely 8' Bassoon, which is now in Old St. Mary's Choir organ.   Cheers,   Bud   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Desert Bob: > > I wonder if Ozawa hates trains too! Well, good riddance, Baaahstun may = yet > survive. > > Ron > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:42:34   At 02:07 PM 7/1/2000 EDT, you wrote: >I wonder if Ozawa hates trains too!<snip>   Hates trains? Wha'....?   dB  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:47:21   At 11:21 AM 7/1/2000 -0700, you wrote: >I wonder if the general neglect of organs in American concert halls has >something to do with some conductors wanting to push the pitch above A=3D44= 0 ....<snip>   We on the organ side don't help matter much, what with pushing arcane temperaments and such! The old Cincy Hook-Austin was no gem, for certain, but it WAS large enough to be effective. Retuning to 440 could have been done...had someone have WANTED it done. Obviously, no one did. The sad state of affairs with the Baaahstun =C6-S (quite an interesting instrument, really) mirrors the scene everywhere, unfortunately.   One thing is certain...precious little of quality has been written for organ AND orchestra in the last century, or even more. Saint-Seans' innocuous Number 3 is of middling value musically, but seems to be the most played work. Jongen's demanding "Symphonie Concertante" delights audiences and rouses them to their feet wherever and whenever performed, but it languishes, unplayed for the most part. Some later works for organ and orchestra are laughable on their face. The fact of the matter is that composers of quality are simply NOT attracted to the organ anymore, and modern day maestros are inclined to ignore it as well!   The organ's involuntary servitude to Big Bizz Religion has become its undoing, methinks....   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:19:44 -0500   On 7/1/00 1:47 PM, Bob Scarborough wrote:   > The organ's involuntary servitude to Big Bizz Religion has become its > undoing, methinks....   I agree that few modern composers are attracted to the organ anymore - but frankly, I don't think that is the fault of religion. Without the church(es), would the pipe organ exist at all? Or in fact, even have been developed past its early and quite humble beginnings?   Russ    
(back) Subject: Fw: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:40:31 -0500   .....humble beginnings??....pounding keys in a Roman arena??   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Greene <rggreene2@home.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished = Hook/Austin     > On 7/1/00 1:47 PM, Bob Scarborough wrote: > > > The organ's involuntary servitude to Big Bizz Religion has become its > > undoing, methinks.... > > I agree that few modern composers are attracted to the organ anymore - = but > frankly, I don't think that is the fault of religion. Without the > church(es), would the pipe organ exist at all? Or in fact, even have = been > developed past its early and quite humble beginnings? > > Russ > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Cincinnati's Hook-Austin From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 14:49:10 -0700       Bob Scarborough wrote:   > The old Cincy Hook-Austin was no gem, for certain, > but it WAS large enough to be effective. Retuning to 440 could have = been > done...had someone have WANTED it done. Obviously, no one did.   Cincinnati had not one but THREE undoings. First, the four-manual tracker = Hook was shoved to the back wall of the stage when the proscenium arch was = built so they could have a fly-loft ... from whence it was never effective; then it = was electrocuted by Austin and planted on a Universal Wind Chest the width of = the stage. Despite the raised pressures and big reeds, the Austin could never = get out into the auditorium from that depth either, because of the open = fly-loft above. When the organ was heard at an AGO convention in the '40s, the = audience sat ON the stage. When Schippers was conductor, he had plans for restoring = the organ, but he died before they could be carried out. When the opera = company decided to move into the hall, the fate of the Austin was sealed.   It was quite exciting ON stage; the String Organ was LUSCIOUS. The Echo = Organ wasn't part of the removal contract, and remains entombed above the = central chandelier.   Cheers,   Bud   >    
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6g=3D=3D-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 14:35:57   At 04:19 PM 7/1/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Without the >church(es), would the pipe organ exist at all? Or in fact, even have been >developed past its early and quite humble beginnings?<snip>   Secular organs have indeed existed throughout the instrument's history, = but it is indeed true that it has been mainly an appliance of churches. One can only hope that the bloom of secularly placed instruments seen in the early part of the century will be seen once more. First, however, the organ must be "legitimized" once again in the music world, where it is now considered more of an oddity than anything else.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: secular organs From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 15:16:55 -0700   It's kind of a vicious circle ... not that many concert halls have = functioning organs, so modern composers in the mainstream seldom include the organ in = their orchestration. Symphony management looks at the cost of maintaining an = organ vs. how often it is used, and throws up their hands. And it's also simply = too costly to open a two or three thousand seat auditorium for organ recitals = that only draw in the hundreds.   San Diego Symphony moved into the renovated Fox Theatre, which includes a four-manual Robert Morton (?) theatre organ. They've made good use of it, = with a silent film series with organ and orchestra. I don't know, though, if = they use it with the orchestra during the regular season. And Balboa Park, of course, is one of the biggest modern success stories of the organ recital = in a secular setting. Part of it has to do with the relaxed outdoor setting, of course.   San Bernardino Symphony has a two-manual Wurlitzer in their hall, but it's = in pretty sad shape. I was supposed to play the Saint-Saens there for Maestro Robertson, but then I got sick and the organ died (grin). It made enough = NOISE for the Saint-Saens ... Maestro Robertson opined that with all the = couplers and playing up an octave, it "snarled" sufficiently (grin). They ended up = doing it a couple of seasons later with an electronic.   It will be interesting to see (controversies aside) if the Disney Hall = organ is used regularly, or sinks into obscurity.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: RE: secular organs From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:10:15 -0500   Check the Seattle Symphony web site and see around a dozen programs with organ in the coming season. Time will tell if this becomes standard, but for now there's a big buzz around town about the Fisk that's being opened officially this weekend.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 5:17 PM To: PipeChat Subject: secular organs     It's kind of a vicious circle ... not that many concert halls have functioning organs, so modern composers in the mainstream seldom include the organ in their orchestration. Symphony management looks at the cost of maintaining an = organ vs. how often it is used, and throws up their hands. And it's also simply too costly to open a two or three thousand seat auditorium for organ recitals that only draw in the hundreds.   San Diego Symphony moved into the renovated Fox Theatre, which includes a four-manual Robert Morton (?) theatre organ. They've made good use of it, with a silent film series with organ and orchestra. I don't know, though, if = they use it with the orchestra during the regular season. And Balboa Park, of course, is one of the biggest modern success stories of the organ recital = in a secular setting. Part of it has to do with the relaxed outdoor setting, of course.   San Bernardino Symphony has a two-manual Wurlitzer in their hall, but it's in pretty sad shape. I was supposed to play the Saint-Saens there for Maestro Robertson, but then I got sick and the organ died (grin). It made enough NOISE for the Saint-Saens ... Maestro Robertson opined that with all the = couplers and playing up an octave, it "snarled" sufficiently (grin). They ended up = doing it a couple of seasons later with an electronic.   It will be interesting to see (controversies aside) if the Disney Hall = organ is used regularly, or sinks into obscurity.   Cheers,   Bud         "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Position Announcement (1st pres. Trenton) From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:12:12 EDT   Hey All,   I have been given the clear to announce my appointment as Director = of Arts and Music at the First Presbyterian Church of Trenton. The position = was once held by Nannciane Parella, accompanist of the famous Westminster = Choir at WCC. The church has lost much of it's congregation since the decline of =   Trenton, but in the recent two years, the congregation has stabilized and = has started to increase in membership and activity. The church supports a = small school, 5 outreach programs, spirituality groups, and many secular groups = in the community. The church is a very affirming congregation that supports a =   very open minded view of religion. The sanctuary was built in the late 1700's and is undergoing an extensive, but historicaly correct restoration. The church was built in = the American Protestant manner, having large clear windows that rise to the = top of the 4 story sanctuary. The sanctuary once housed a 1920's Skinner, = which suffered damage throughout the years and was redone by Robert Turner in = 1973 and 1974. The result is a large instrument over 3 manuals with 78 ranks. The music program currently involves a small senior choir and a paid soloist/quartet program. My view of the program is to build the senior = choir up to a healthy 14, not including soloists, develop a concert series at Christmas/Advent (there is one during Lent), and support local artists and =   musicians with practice space, concert space, and event planning. This is a large step for me. Although I will now only have one choir, = I will be working with professionals and spending my time in different = areas. This also gives my my FIRST pipe instrument, of which I am quite fond and proud. We are planning to do console work (new), and some additions. If anyone is insterested in coming to see the church or the = instrument, let me know. My first Sunday will be August 6th!   -Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: 1st Pres. Trenton (Spec.) From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:15:17 EDT   This is my new baby...any comments, news, history, or suggestions on a practical antiphonal would be much appreciated.   GREAT: (4 3/4' in.) Spitzflote 16' Prinzipal 8' Bordun Flute Harmonique Spitzflote (ext.) Oktave 4' Rhor Flote Spitzfflote (ext.) Oktave 2' Spitzflote (ext.) Sesquialtera II Mixtur III-V Sharf IV Fagot 16' Trompete 8' Klarine 4' Trompete En Chamade 8'   Swell: (5 1/3' in) Rhor Bordun 16' Prinzipal 8' Gedeckt (ext.) Viole De Gambe Voix Celeste Flauto Dolce Flauto Celeste Oktave 4' Koppel Flute Gross Terz 3 1/5' Nasat 2 2/3' Oktave 2' Terz 1 3/5' (ext.) Sifflote 1 (ext.) Mixtur III-V Zimbel III Basson 16' Trompette 8' Hautbois (ext.) Voix Humaine 8' Clairon 4'   POSITIV: (enclosed, 3 3/4' in.) Prinzipal 8' Gedackt Dolce Unda Maris Oktave 4' Spillflote Nasat 2 2/3' Oktave 2' Blockflote Terz 1 3/5' Quintflote 1 1/3' Mixtur IV Sharf III Rankett 16' Trompette 8' Cromorne Clairon (ext.) 4' Oboe 4'   PEDAL: (4 to 5 in.) Prinzipal 16' Subbass Rhor Bordun (Sw.) Spitzflote (Gt.) Quintflote (Sw.) 10 2/3' Prinzipal 8' Bassflote (ext.) Spitzflote (Gt.) Rhorflote (Sw.) Oktave 4' (ext.) Flute 4' Flute 2' (ext) Mixtur V Contre Basson 32' (Sw.) Posaune 16' Basson (Sw.) Rankett (Po.) Trompete (ext.) 8' Hautbois (Sw.) Klarine 4' (ext.) Cromorne (Po.)  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:26:40 EDT   In a message dated 7/1/00 5:02:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << We on the organ side don't help matter much, what with pushing arcane temperaments and such! >> Oh PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!   To two aren't even remotely related!@$^#$%   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:28:18 EDT   In a message dated 7/1/00 5:17:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rggreene2@home.com writes:   << I agree that few modern composers are attracted to the organ anymore = >> Which may be a blessing in disguise. Modern composers are writing their dreck for other folks to suffer with!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:42:46 EDT   In a message dated 7/1/00 7:33:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << << We on the organ side don't help matter much, what with pushing arcane temperaments and such! >> Oh PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE! >> As someone who was a major in music school on an orchestral instrument and = is now an organbuilder I have to line up behind Bob and say that they are = most definately related. Furthermore, the whole "tracker backer/historic organ" =   movement has helped to make 'organ haters' out if people like Isaac Stern = and Seji Osawa.   Alan B    
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati's vanished Hook/Austin From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:09:23 EDT   In a message dated 7/1/00 7:37:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = Cremona502@cs.com writes:   << < I agree that few modern composers are attracted to the organ anymore = >> Which may be a blessing in disguise. Modern composers are writing their dreck for other folks to suffer with! >> Now wait a minute! There are actually people who understand and like = 'modern music.' Because you are so close minded that you can't appreciate anything =   composed after 1750 means that you are in a very small minority. I just = came from an organ recital attended by at least 1000 people. All of the music = was composed after 1850. The recital started with a piece by Reger. I'd like = to see you pull in even 100 with a "period instrument' recital. Yes I love = Bach and Buxtehude but not at the exclusion of all else. I know of several = people who have quit this very list calling it's members "closed minded snobs". I =   think I'll go listen to "Nasal Retentive Calliope" by Frank Zappa ( He Had = a mansion in Beverly Hills, how many pre 1750 composers had mansions ? )   "The twentieth century composer refuses to die." Edgar Varese   Alan B.  
(back) Subject: Re: need wiring diagram for a 2-6 From: "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 17:26:30 PDT   Where are you? You will not find a diagram for wiring. You will have to just sit there and figure it out one wire etc at a time. If you are in = the Louisiana area, I could help you. I have had to repair cables cut by rats =   etc. Also note, if extensive wiring is required, the codes these days require replacing old cotton wraped wire with the up to date plastic = coated wire.. lamar     ----Original Message Follows---- From: "paul" <paulkruger@flashcom.net> Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: need wiring diagram for a 2-6 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:13:19 -0700   wurlitzer opus 1658 style d list 500 have relays and all cable cut can some one help   ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com