PipeChat Digest #1493 - Thursday, July 6, 2000
 
Tracker Question
  by <George.Greene@RossNutrition.com>
Fw: Tracker Question
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Cantate Domino
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Cantate Domino
  by "Mark Harris" <M.Harris@Admin.lon.ac.uk>
EMERGENCY!!!  SONG NEEDED!!!!
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /  	Cincinnati'svanished Hook/Austin
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: EMERGENCY!!!  SONG NEEDED!!!!
  by "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net>
Re: Tracker Question
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
NEVER MIND EMERGENCY!
  by "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com>
Re: NEVER MIND EMERGENCY!
  by "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net>
Re: EMERGENCY!!!  SONG NEEDED!!!!
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: "new" organ material
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
Re: Tracker Question
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S /   Cincinnati'svanished Hook/Austin
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Tracker Question
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: NEVER MIND EMERGENCY!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Historic St Pauls Organ , London Ontario
  by "Daniel W Hopkins" <danielwh@homefreeweb.com>
Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: "new" organ material
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
them thar tractors and such
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 


(back) Subject: Tracker Question From: <George.Greene@RossNutrition.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:15:48 -0400     I have a friend who plays a small tracker in a small church with limited = funds for organ repair. She says that quite frequently notes will become = "stuck" and she has to pull up on the keys (or pedals) to release them. Is there a = simple, inexpensive repair that she could perform to minimize this problem?   Thanks!    
(back) Subject: Fw: Tracker Question From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:43:15 -0500   Could be the keys and pedals need rebushing, or the trackers/stickers are binding- also needing rebushing. (?)   Rick http://www.svs.net/Dutch     ----- Original Message ----- From: <George.Greene@RossNutrition.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 8:15 AM Subject: Tracker Question     > > I have a friend who plays a small tracker in a small church with limited funds > for organ repair. She says that quite frequently notes will become "stuck" and > she has to pull up on the keys (or pedals) to release them. Is there a simple, > inexpensive repair that she could perform to minimize this problem? > > Thanks! > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Cantate Domino From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:11:43 -0400 (EDT)     >We had a similar debate when looking for a name for the European Chamber >Choir. My first choice was "Canticum Novum", but I wasn't sure if that = was a >accusative or not. I was (hopefully reliably) informed that this form is >also the nominative. Perhaps someone could correct me if this is not the >case before we make fools of ourselves! > > >Chris Johns >Musical Assistant, Osnabrueck Cathedral >Frankenstrasse 5, D-49082 Osnabrueck >Tel/Fax +49 (0)541 528 2568 >EMail: Chris_Johns@gmx.de   Whether "canticum" and "novum" are accusative or nominative is irrelevant as the proposed title contains no verb. But "Canticum Novum" is perfectly correct (i.e., the adjective "novum" correctly modifies the noun "canticum"). It means "New Song," though-- not "Sing a new song" (which would be "Cantate canticum novum," rather a mouthful).   Ave atque vale,   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Professor of French Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: Cantate Domino From: "Mark Harris" <M.Harris@Admin.lon.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:26:14 GMT   Scripsit insignissimus Randy Runyon:   > It means "New Song," though-- not > "Sing a new song" (which would be "Cantate canticum novum," rather a > mouthful). --hence, IIRC, the psalmist renders it thus: "Cantate Domino carmen novum"   Sicut erat in principio, & c.   MH =3D=3D=3D    
(back) Subject: EMERGENCY!!! SONG NEEDED!!!! From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:52:40 EDT   I am playing for a Funeral tomorrow morning and I need at least one copy = of "Mama" - and Italian Song made popular by Connie Francis around the 50's = or 60's.   This is an absolute Emergency!!!!!! The soloist is looking, I have the local music store looking and I have several of my friends looking for it. = So far, no luck.   I am accompanying this on the organ. The family heard Connie do it on a record and said that they want it sung at their mother's funeral tomorrow morning (7/6). Why do people not realize that the soloists and accompanyists need copies of it!!!   Oh well,   If you know of a copy of it, PLEASE let me know ASAP!!!! I will periodically be chacking this account several times today.   THANK YOU!!!! Jason Comet ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati'svanished Hook/Austin From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:49:50 +0800   Now Bruce, did I mention changing or altering pipe work or removing ranks? = I'm with you on that one all the way. Damage was done to organs here in that = mania that swept the world about 40 years ago when perfectly good organs were "classicised" and some of these people WERE tracker backers. Naaah! My = comment was that some tracker organs are so difficult to play because of the heavy = action that electrifying them could be said to improve them from the player's = point of view. No revoicing, no removal of ranks, no additions, no change except to = make the organ easier to play. To play some of these (and I did say 19th C.) = organs can't be impersonal when you have to fight a heavy key action in order to = play them. Bob E.     Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/5/00 2:48:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes: > > << I have tried some 19th Century trackers that needed the > arms of a blacksmith to press the keys. The advantage of sensitivity = and > responsiveness of touch doesn't exist in such instruments and = electrifying > them > at least makes them easily playable. There is nothing wrong with the > pipework, it > is purely the mechanical action. OK blame the builders, but it doesn't = alter > the > fact that they are improved by the "electrocution". Such examples are = far > from > rare. You can hardly say that such instruments are "lost" There is no > difference > in the sound unless the pipework is altered. "Lost"? Maybe "found"! >> > > Well, I play a modern tracker that has very stiff action, but I still = prefer > than over the impersonal electric. But that's my preference. It just > gripes me that people can't leave organs alone. You don't see tracker = people > being intolerant, running around ripping out magnets to trackers = electric > action organs. Occasionally, those electricuted are restored! After = all, > turn about is fair play! > > Once the alterations start, such as Methuen, the organ IS in effect, = lost! > Even with the "restorative" work done recently at the Mormon Tabernacle, = GDH > pipework was REMOVED and other pipework altered. I think the "new" = sound > of the MoTab is disappointing, personally. I recently read of a new = organ > (don't remember which one) that contained pipework recently removed from > MoTab. That's just not right IMHO! > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!!! SONG NEEDED!!!! From: "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:11:16 -0400   Hi Janet...   I have a copy of it. I won't be able to get to it till tonight however. = It's at church. Unless someone else can get it to you earlier, leave me a fax number.   Ed     Jason Comet wrote:   > I am playing for a Funeral tomorrow morning and I need at least one copy = of > "Mama" - and Italian Song made popular by Connie Francis around the = 50's or > 60's. > > This is an absolute Emergency!!!!!! The soloist is looking, I have the > local music store looking and I have several of my friends looking for = it. > So far, no luck. > > I am accompanying this on the organ. The family heard Connie do it on a > record and said that they want it sung at their mother's funeral = tomorrow > morning (7/6). Why do people not realize that the soloists and > accompanyists need copies of it!!! > > Oh well, > > If you know of a copy of it, PLEASE let me know ASAP!!!! I will > periodically be chacking this account several times today. > > THANK YOU!!!! > Jason Comet > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:09:19   At 09:15 AM 7/5/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >I have a friend who plays a small tracker in a small church with limited funds >for organ repair. She says that quite frequently notes will become "stuck" and >she has to pull up on the keys (or pedals) to release them. Is there a simple, >inexpensive repair that she could perform to minimize this problem?<snip>   Yes! Replace with improved eletromagnetic action, and those problems go away! Seriously, powdered Teflon=AE is available as a dry lubricant, and works well in such situations, should there be a binding roller or other problem, a continual tracker problem (and one which tracker-backers NEVER allude to!) First, however, the source of the mechanical binding must be positively located, which on a small tracker, shouldn't be that difficult.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: NEVER MIND EMERGENCY! From: "Jason Comet" <diaphone64@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:03:44 EDT   I have located a copy of it. Thank you all for trying and your help.   Jason Comet ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: NEVER MIND EMERGENCY! From: "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 15:14:39 -0400   NO problem...   Ed     Jason Comet wrote:   > I have located a copy of it. Thank you all for trying and your help. > > Jason Comet > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!!! SONG NEEDED!!!! From: <Posthorn8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:14:00 EDT   I have a copy of "Feelings" if you need it....hehehehe   Tim  
(back) Subject: Re: "new" organ material From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:12:42 EDT   I'm looking forward to getting my new soundcard, which will allow me to = get rid of the General MIDI sounds in my computer, and replace them with organ =   samples. Then any piece of MIDI music played on the computer will come out = as a (probably rather bad) organ transcription. Sounds like lots of fun! Mick Berg.  
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:03:30 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/00 9:19:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, George.Greene@RossNutrition.com writes:   << I have a friend who plays a small tracker in a small church with = limited funds for organ repair. She says that quite frequently notes will become = "stuck" and she has to pull up on the keys (or pedals) to release them. Is there a simple, inexpensive repair that she could perform to minimize this problem? >> This is probably very simple. If the organ is old, chances are the = springs under the pallets have simply relaxed. It is easiest if you have pallet =   pliars, but it is a very simple maneuver. Where is she? Any chance you =   can get more information on the organ. This should NOT be an expensive repair, and the church should make the need known to the congregation. Hopefully, someone will come forward with the dough! Please keep me = posted.   By the way, pallet pliars can be purchased from most any organ supply company. For some reason, "pliars" does not sound right, there may be another name.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Baaahstun Symphony Hall =C6-S / Cincinnati'svanished Hook/Austin From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:17:27 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/00 10:55:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes:   << My comment was that some tracker organs are so difficult to play = because of the heavy action that electrifying them could be said to improve them = from the player's point of view. >> But, even so... wouldn't it make more sense to spend the money, reworking =   the action to restore it and properly regulating it. Electrocution is = just soooooooooooooo barbaric!!! ;-)   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:23:26 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/00 1:17:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << Yes! Replace with improved eletromagnetic action, and those problems = go away! >>   You're gunna burn bOb, yur gunna buuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnn!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: NEVER MIND EMERGENCY! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:25:58 EDT       Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Historic St Pauls Organ , London Ontario From: "Daniel W Hopkins" <danielwh@homefreeweb.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:29:52 -0300   here is a link to a summary of the damage to the organ in Londons Local = Newspaper http://www.canoe.ca/LondonNews/lf.lf-07-05-0014.html It gives alot of info on what happened and the extent of the damage     GET THE BEST FREE INTERNET ACCESS *Free Email***Free Support***Free Software***No Credit Check***Privacy = Guaranteed* GO TO http://www.homefreeweb.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:34:18 -0500   WAIT!! Don't rebush the keyboards. There is already binding because they = are tight. Don't tighten the pallet springs. This will only make the action = harder, and you know how some organists are about that. Binding keys are, = however, a problem that afflicts all keyboard instruments regardless of type of = action. It sounds like you likely have a humidity problem. Turning on the air conditioner might help, although some units with fans that run continually = even when the compressor is off may make it worse. First try and determine if the binding is at the keys. If the keys stay = down, that is likely the case. Then try to learn a little about the anatomy of = a keyboard. Manual keys usually have a guide pin set in from the bottom = near the front of the key. If the wood swells, the key will naturally bind on this pin. Try applying sidewise = pressure and while applying pressure move the key up and down briskly. Do this in = all four directions and you may find the point of most resistance where the = binding is. A keyslip between keyboards can also cause binding when the dimensions of the keyframe change because of humidity. If this "rubbing" of the key helps, but only temporarily, then the keys may need = to be "eased" with special pliers which compress the wood fibers. If the = keyslip is binding on the front of the key it will need to be shimmed out Manual keys can also bind at the center pin bushing or even at the tails, = and may require "easing" at either place. Please try the "rubbing" first, = however, and it will save many a performance. Pedal keys are guided in many ways; with guides between the keys, or = inside individual keys. The same basic principles apply however: 1. Control excessive humidity; it will also rust your metal parts! 2. Rub the key briskly up and down while applying sideways pressure. 3. Call your service man to have the keys "eased". Roy Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/5/00 9:19:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > George.Greene@RossNutrition.com writes: > > << I have a friend who plays a small tracker in a small church with = limited > funds > for organ repair. She says that quite frequently notes will become = "stuck" > and > she has to pull up on the keys (or pedals) to release them. Is there a > simple, > inexpensive repair that she could perform to minimize this problem? > >> > This is probably very simple. If the organ is old, chances are the = springs > under the pallets have simply relaxed. It is easiest if you have = pallet > pliars, but it is a very simple maneuver. Where is she? Any chance = you > can get more information on the organ. This should NOT be an = expensive > repair, and the church should make the need known to the congregation. > Hopefully, someone will come forward with the dough! Please keep me = posted. > > By the way, pallet pliars can be purchased from most any organ supply > company. For some reason, "pliars" does not sound right, there may be > another name. > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: "new" organ material From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:36:14 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/00 8:13:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = MickBerg@aol.com writes:   << 'm looking forward to getting my new soundcard, which will allow me to = get rid of the General MIDI sounds in my computer, and replace them with = organ samples. Then any piece of MIDI music played on the computer will come = out as a (probably rather bad) organ transcription. Sounds like lots of fun! >>   OK Mick, fess up! How do you do this? I'd love to have chiffing = meantone noises coming from my computer. It would be especiall wonderful in Finale!!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: them thar tractors and such From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:54:50 -0700   NOTE: for those who already read this on OrganChat, my apologies ... I can never remember what argument is going on where (grin). I believe it's called "A Senior Moment" ...   *************************************************   OK, folks, let's bring some balance to this discussion (grin).   First of all, it's not fair to criticize ALL trackers on the basis of a FEW. MOST 19th century trackers up to a certain size had light, responsive key action; beyond a certain size, builders like Hook and Hasting had the wit to add the pneumatic lever to the Great, so you COULD play comfortably with the manuals coupled. And a fair number of 19th century organs had pallet springs added by lazy organ cobblers who didn't want to bother with adjusting the action, so they AREN'T in their   original state.   ALL the Koehnken & Grimm organs I played in the Cincinnati area had light, plucky key action ... yes, it was heavier with the manuals coupled, but why should we be the only musicians who think they shouldn't have to exert more effort in order to get more sound out of their instruments??   There are situations where straight tracker action is appropriate ... most smaller two-manual organs, for instance. There are also instances where the space available requires electric action. Some tracker builders aren't fond of building detached consoles in situations where the organist is also choirmaster, but they CAN do it, and they CAN keep the key action light.   Fisk is building some kind of pneumatic servo that can be applied (or not, at the choice of the player) to the coupler action of larger three-manual organs. I don't think that's inappropriate.   It also depends on the tonal scheme of the organ ... a three-manual organ in the French romantic style is INTENDED to be played MOST of the time with all three manuals coupled ... I would want some kind of pneumatic assist on such an organ. An organ in German baroque style, on the other hand, would normally only require that the Positiv and Hauptwerk be coupled on occasion.   There are good and bad modern trackers ... the four-manual Beckerath in Cleveland was a milestone, but it DOES play like a Mack truck with THREE   manuals coupled ... I don't think the fourth manual (Kronwerk) couples to anything. BUT, *two* manuals coupled was PLENTY for most things.   On the other hand, the Fritts-Richards in San Diego is quite comfortable   to play with all three manuals coupled.   The problem with electrocuting trackers is that it's seldom done well .... there are at least three organs on Organ Clearing House's website currently that are candidates for re-trackerization or re-electrocution because the original attempt failed in fairly short order, AND the churches abandoned those organs, NOT because of the original tracker action, but because of the failed electric action.   Cheers,   Bud            
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:08:20   At 10:34 AM 7/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Turning on the air >conditioner might help, although some units with fans that run = continually even >when the compressor is off may make it worse.<snip>   Whaaaa? Why would a circulating air handler make it worse? I hate it = when people offer unqualfied advice! Anyone want my qualifications on HVAC, simply ask.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 11:12:41 -0500   Because, when the compressor goes off, the fans simply pump whatever = moisture remains in the coils back into the room. I have seen actual rain falling = in rooms from some systems. If you can explain it better, have at it!!! Roy   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 10:34 AM 7/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Turning on the air > >conditioner might help, although some units with fans that run = continually > even > >when the compressor is off may make it worse.<snip> > > Whaaaa? Why would a circulating air handler make it worse? I hate it = when > people offer unqualfied advice! Anyone want my qualifications on HVAC, > simply ask. > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker Question-KEYBOARDS From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:56:31 EDT   In a message dated 7/5/00 11:42:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rredman@imagin.net writes:   << WAIT!! Don't rebush the keyboards. There is already binding because = they are tight. Don't tighten the pallet springs. This will only make the action =   harder, and you know how some organists are about that. Binding keys are, = however, a problem that afflicts all keyboard instruments regardless of type of = action. It sounds like you likely have a humidity problem. Turning on the air conditioner might help, although some units with fans that run = continually even when the compressor is off may make it worse. >>   Thanks, Roy. Sage advice. I have a friend in a church in town who = has had this problem. We pretty much elminated the sticking keys by leaving = a floor fan aimed directly at the keyboards. Several of the pallet = springs did have to be tightened, evidenced by no resistance and the fact that = they felt lighter than the other keys. This was done by their technician, not =   me, however.   It's such a relief to have a "pro" handy!!   Thanks again.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502