PipeChat Digest #1504 - Tuesday, July 11, 2000
 
Re: In the news.... (OFF-TOPIC) (grin)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: the virtues of the Victorian anthem
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: This Morning.
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: Caleb, Caleb, wherefore art thou?
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Hymnals old, older and oldest
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: pre-Boer anthems
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: St. Paul's trash / St. Matthew's treasure (grin)
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Pfeifenorgel sound font
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: Soundfont tuning
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: "new" organ material
  by <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
POE: Todd Wilson Recital (cross-posted)
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Summer Recitals
  by "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net>
Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages"
  by "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net>
Re: There's A Friend For Little Children
  by "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net>
Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: In the news.... (OFF-TOPIC) (grin) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:19:58 +0800   What about getting back into safe waters, Bob, and talk about pipe organs. = You are on dangerous ground here. Bob E.   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 12:39 PM 7/10/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >The Brits haven't forgotten about Bloody Mary, or the Spanish Armada, = or the > >Gunpowder Plot, OR the Jesuit college at Douai ... the Jesuit Order is = STILL > >banned in England. The Act of Toleration for RCs didn't come until the > 1820s.<snip> > > As well they shouldn't. Catholics who are blissfully ignorant of the > church's evil doings are well to do some brushing up on history. There = are > powerful reasons for Protestantism, not just based on theological = grounds! > > >Parliament and the Archbishop of Canterbury, same as they did about > Margaret and > >Charles marrying divorced persons ... remember, President Reagan was = the > FIRST > >divorced person to be presented at Court, and THAT only because he was = a > head of > >state.<snip> > > How unfortunate for us. > > By the way...has anyone ever found out how much money Hammond paid the > Anglican Church to allow them to install an RT-3 in the Canterbury > Cathedral back in the '60s? Those close to The Hammond Company insist = that > (while Laurens Hammond was still there, anyway) that they NEVER gave > anything away "for free". That wouldn't preclude them from PAYING the > Church of England to install a living room organ in this ediface, = however! > Just what IS the organ history in that barn, anyway? How was it that a > Hammond was allowed to take over in the first place? A silent Hill? > Enquiring minds want to know! The Hammond installation was a source of > great jocularity amonst organists everywhere when it happened. > > >In addition, what amazes ME is that those same bishops make > >accommodation with some of the most brutal, repressive regimes on the = face of > >the earth, and nobody (seemingly) calls them on THAT.<snip> > > Needless to say, Africa is a continent on the wane. Self rule there has > been and continues to be a disaster. As for multinational corporations = (a > more "freshened up" version of colonialism), they hasten the demise of = any > society they come in contact with. Castro knew this all too well, as he > watched US corporations plunder Cuba with the assistance of the corrupt > Bautista regime. The African Anglican bishops are just part and parcel = of > a greater malaise. > > DeserTBoB > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: the virtues of the Victorian anthem From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:23:25 +0800   Bud, ALL of the Caleb Simper I ever heard was sung in the Methodist = Church!!! But Simper was an Anglican!! Bob E.   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > Bob Elms wrote: > > > Chris. It's all equally bad, believe me! It follows a pattern. Loud > > introductory passage - 2 or 3 pages. Soprano solo, preferably by a = wobbly > > soprano of uncertain age, > > I know EXACTLY how old she is: 73! (grin) ... and she wobbles = BEAUTIFULLY. > > > a passage in 6/8 > > usually for the alto ... > > > or fast 3/4, a slow movement with > > plenty of pathos, > > in the relative minor, of course (grin) > > > and a jolly loud allegro ending with plenty of hallelujahs!! > > Just so! > > > > > They are all the same! > > Bob. E. > > > > And they're GUARANTEED to raise the collection by 10%-15% everytime we = do one > (grin). > > My CHOIR doesn't take 'em seriously ... they think they're GREAT fun ... = but the > congregation thinks they're the pinnacle of Anglican taste and = refinement, so why > fight a good thing? As long as we sing one Victorian anthem per service, = we can > get away with singing buckets of Gregorian Chant as well (grin), and = whatever else > I want to do. But the Offertory Anthem is unashamedly aimed at the = blue-hair / > mink stole / country club crowd. If it inspires them, why not? > > Cheers, > > Bud > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: This Morning. From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 10 Jul 2000 17:30:13 -0700   On Sun, 09 July 2000, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net wrote:   > > Um, Richard? Didst thou participate in the post-examination fun and > frolic and imbibest way way way too much? I doubteth it immensely, > because thou seemeth to have more sense than a certain notable > 16-year-old in thy country, who shall remain nameless. > > The electricity at our church goes out every once in a while, not over > the entire church, but sufficiently to prevent us from using the organ. > > There are some in our church who cannot understand why I'm never worried > about that; I simply move to the piano and carry on. The show (oops, > the service) must go on, no? > > Neil > >   I know this message wasn't intended for me. Nobody who knows me would say = that I have more sense than MY sixteen-year-old!   Dick Meckstroth      
(back) Subject: Re: Caleb, Caleb, wherefore art thou? From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:28:46 +0800   I doubt whether King's College or any of the British Anglican churches = where the choirs hit a high standard ever heard of most of the 19th C. Victorian = anthems. Certainly in this country this Victoriana was confined to the small church = choirs, chiefly the Methodists. To give this music some credit, it had the virtue = of being easy to perform and some of it was quite tuneful, and the general run of = people in the congregations liked it. The choirs who sang them did not have the = resources to fly much higher.   Bob E.   Evelyn Rowe wrote:   > At 07:46 PM 7/10/00 +0800, Bob E. wrote: > >Chris. It's all equally bad, believe me! It follows a pattern. Loud > >introductory passage - 2 or 3 pages. Soprano solo, preferably by a = wobbly > >soprano of uncertain age, a passage in 6/8 or fast 3/4, a slow movement = with > >plenty of pathos, and a jolly loud allegro ending with plenty of = hallelujahs!! > >They are all the same! > > I don't think Caleb is represented in my file folder of out-of-copyright > classics. I few years ago I rescued some stuff from the St. Paul's = music > library as it was going through its most recent clean-out. I also got > copies of some old warhorses from the church where I played for over a > year, including Roberts's "Seek ye the Lord" and Robison's (sp?) "All in = an > April evening" (the latter being possibly the worst anthem, words and > music, ever published and widely used -- it was still being sung at high > school choral festivals in the early 1960's). Unfortunately, few of the > other items are so bad they're good. The rest are just bad: = harmonically > and otherwise boring. I suppose there are venues like King's College = where > anything sounds good, but these should definitely not be performed by an > all-volunteer choir in a dead room. > > Evelyn > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Hymnals old, older and oldest From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:37:57 -0700   If memory serves, they were two different books. Back then, General = Convention only approved TEXTS, not tunes, so there were two competing books, "The Hymnal = 1916" (mine is dark blue) and Canon Douglas' "The New Hymnal" (I don't have a copy, = but as I recall it was maroon) ... they probably both came OUT in '16. The New = Hymnal had, as I recall, a lot more plainsong ... that was why we still had copies for the = choir at St. Paul's in the '50s ... the choir sang the plainsong canticles for Morning = Prayer out of the back of The New Hymnal. Unlike the '40, I think they were ALL noted = in full, verse by verse, and not just the Benedictus.   And, of course, there were parishes who thought BOTH were too "moderne", = and used "The Church Hymnal" of 1898 from the Parish Press, companion book to "The = Parish Psalter" and "The Chant and Service Book" (which I TREASURE ... that's where I got = the Stainer (?)-Merbecke Burial Sentences).   Most of the real stomp-down anglo-catholic parishes used the English = Hymnal from 1906 onward, when it became available; St. James on 55th Street in Cleveland = still does ... I think St. Clement's in Philadelphia and St. Mary Magdalen in Toronto = switched to "The New English Hymnal" ... why, I can't imagine.   Cheers,   Bud   P.S. - The tune for "Little Children" in The English Hymnal is "Ingrave", = identified only as an "English Traditional Melody", which probably means that RVW = collected it.   Noel Stoutenburg wrote:   > I wrote, whilst suffering from an episode of fidgety fingers: > > > > > > Perhaps it was in the 1916 Hymnal or "The New Hymnal" ... we still = used those > > > at St. Paul's in the late '50s. > > > > My copy of the 1916 is entitled "The New Hymnal", and the text is at = number 363. > > Choice of tunes is Stainer's "In Memoriam". > > > > Only one "song", though, and no "robe". > > There is not, of course, a choice of only one; the other tune was Samuel = Smith's > "Edengrove." > > > > > > > ns > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: pre-Boer anthems From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:40:24 +0800   Ron, I played for choral evensong at the local Anglican Church on Sunday - = the farewell service for a popular priest who is retiring. Full house! 1662 = BCP, all sung, Magnificat, chanted creed, the lot. I enjoyed myself immensely. The = anthem was composed in 1998 by a Catholic layman from the capital city and the = sung blessing by a local musician. It was great! I think the Anglican Church = may have lost something with its new prayer books. The organ, by the way is a 6 = stop single manual Wm Hill of 1890, restored a few years ago. Small but very = effective.     RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Bob: > > I seems Bud is sick and tired of things modern. 1928/1662 prayer book = sounds > like > guitars are out, and organ and choir is in. There may be hope for = mankind yet. > What to we do with Sebastian Temple, etc. and all those steel guitars, = and > praise > garbage, you can't call most of it music for worship. A bonfire, a = garage > sale to > churches wishing to be the first to actually make garbage work, perhaps = with > the notion that it hasn't been tried by the right people yet! > > I think Bud may actually be on the right track, tradition works = everytime > it's tried! > > Ron Severin > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: St. Paul's trash / St. Matthew's treasure (grin) From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:45:51 +0800   Ah! but you didn't hear the Glasgow Orpheus Choir sing it did you?? Nah! Thought so! Well reserve your judgement till you have; they might have = done a better job than your crowd!!! B.E.   Evelyn Rowe wrote:   > What's really scary is that I thought it wa pretty cool at the time. > > Evie > > At 10:00 AM 7/10/00 +0000, Bob wrote: > >At 09:14 AM 7/10/2000 -0700, Evie wrote: > >> and Robison's (sp?) "All in an > >> April evening" (the latter being possibly the worst anthem, words and > >> music, ever published and widely used -- it was still being sung at = high > >> school choral festivals in the early 1960's).<snip> > > > >Ugh!! I remember that mess from high school concert choir!! <barf> > > > >dB > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: Pfeifenorgel sound font From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 10 Jul 2000 17:54:10 -0700   On Mon, 10 July 2000, steve@open-tech.com wrote:   > > I've used the Jeux sound font, which is very good but has idiosyncracies > (like the Bombarde 32'). Lately I've seen Pfeifenorgel mentioned. How = does > one acquire Pfeifenorgel? > > Steve Chandler >   Steve (and anybody else who's interested),   Go to http://home.t-online.de/home/andreas.sims/ (no www), where it's = described. You order it by sending Mr. Sims (the Germans are still somewhat formal in = their email etiquette) an email message. He sends you the CD-ROM; you send him a check for $45.   There are several versions of the same SoundFont on the CD, taking = different amounts of memory. At this point, I've only looked at the biggest one. = Most of the stops are German Romantic, and there are a few baroque stops as = well. In general, the editing has been done with more care than Jeux.   There's a lot of interesting stuff on the CD-ROM besides just the = SoundFonts, especially if you can read German.   Dick Meckstroth      
(back) Subject: Re: Soundfont tuning From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:51:47 +0800   Sorry Bruce. Surely to accept the playing of much of the contemporary and = indeed the 20th century repertoire including Cesar Franck et al on any of the = strange temperaments is compromise with a big C. Not good enough in these days. = The utility of the organ is badly compromised in my view.   Well you play your peculiar temperaments and I'll stick to equal. I think = my audience will be better satisfied with the result than yours unless you = stick to a narrow repertoire avoiding much of the music written post 1850. BE. Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/10/00 2:15:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > elmsr@albanyis.com.au writes: > > << You are missing the point Bruce. The fact is that equal temperament = will > do a good > job of playing ALL the repertoire including that of Bach and Co.. > > Sorry, Bob. But, that although equal temperament will do a good job of > playing all repertoire is, indeed, a fact, it CANNOT do the best job, = which > is what I prefer to enjoy. Some people may want to compromise and = settle, > and if that is good enough for them, fine! I do not intend to live = this > way, especially with regard to music that I love so much. And it = really > irritates me that there are people who would force me to do this because = the > majority of people wants it. > > << The music of Bach is played as much on the piano as the organ these = days > and no one complains about the equal temperament of the pianos, and ,for = that > matter, I have heard no complaints about Bach being played on organs = tuned to > equal temperament.>> > > DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! HAVE YOU NOT BEEN READING ANYTHING I'VE SAID. = I > THINK I, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE H.A.V.E COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS = VERY > THING. It is truly sad that you choose to discount people who do not = agree > with you as not mattering, or even being worthy of being counted. = There > are several notable pianists who have changed their thinking about > temperament. I don't have their names but have read about them in = several > websites. > > << which, let's face it, is used in the vast majority of organs.>> > ...and so, if we take a survey and discover that the vast majority of = organs > have DE and are unified heavily, then should we change to this system as > well. I didn't realize that the lowest common denominator should set = the > standard. > > <<No, I am not prepared to sacrifice playing modern composers on the = organ > solely > because pieces in a certain restricted number of keys sound great in a > certain > unusual temperament. Not for a moment. I would also disagree with your > statement > that no organ will play all organ music "authentically". What do you = mean by > authentically? > Authenticity indicates using stops/voicing and temperament, as well as > action, common at the time the music was written; basically the sounds = that > inspired the conception of the composition. This applies as well to = the > music of Franck, Reger, Rheinberger, and Sowerby. There is no one style = of > organ that will performs all of these composer's works and do them = justice. > This would especially apply to the music of Frank and Sowerby, two = musically > similar composers who had vastly different tonal colours in mind as they > wrote. I feel sorry for you that you don't feel a small sacrifice is = worth > experiencing such beauty. > > <<Are you saying that the music of Bach can only be played on an > organ in Western Europe 300 years old? It sounds like it.>> > Nope! I'm saying that the music of Bach is much more enjoyable to some > people when authentically played on an instrument built in the style = with > which he was familiar. You're carrying the example to a gross extreme = to > prove a point; but you're missing it completely. > > << That is the ultimate in authenticity.>> > True! And it would be possible in only a very few remaining instances. = It > could be approximated within the scope of current research with a > reproduction instrument. > > << OK, then you must play Haydn and his contemporaries on ancient instruments > too - no Steinway or Bechstein pianos allowed. They would not be = authentic. > If you are going to argue along the lines you have adopted Bruce you = must go > the whole hog and apply it universally to all music.What a boring = prospect!!! > >> > > Oh gee! I almost thought you got the point! Haydn's and Handel's = organs > were significantly different tonally from Bach's. Hearing the music = played > in this way would be fascinating and offer more insight into the > compositions. You said "no Steinway or Bechstein pianos allowed." > Absolutely not, especially if we are playing organ music! But that = does not > mean that you couldn't play the music on a modern instrument; it would = offer > yet another variation in approach to the music. Consider hearing a = Bach > Prelude and Fugue on a baroque reproduction instrument, then hearing a = Haydn > or Handel concerto with organ on yet another reproduction instrument, = and > then going to hear the same pieces played on an 1860s Johnson & Sons, = then a > 1900s Cavaille-Coll, then a 1930s Willis, then a 1950s AEolian-Skinner, = then > a 1970s Austin, then a 1980s Beckerath, then a 1980s Fisk, then a 1990s > Rosales, and then a 2000 Glatter-Goetz! How on earth can you = possibly see > this as boring. If there is VARIETY the possibilities are endless. = If > all temperaments are equal, and I suppose you want all pipework in > America-Classis one-size-fits-all voicing, then there are few = possibilities! > Now THAT'S boring! > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: "new" organ material From: <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: 10 Jul 2000 18:01:43 -0700   > The one thing I would be concerned about is the polyphonic > restrictions on MIDI -- e.g. a 10-note chord on say 12 stops.   This isn't a MIDI restriction; it's a limitation of synthesizers. The SB Live, for example, is limited to 64 voices. It leads to a problem that makes MIDI console software non-trivial.   Your 120-voice chord should sound like the organ's all there, but the real acid test is to play that 10-note chord and then release all but one of the notes. You should hear all 12 stops.   Dick Meckstroth      
(back) Subject: POE: Todd Wilson Recital (cross-posted) From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:34:03 -0400   Hi all,   The Syracuse Chapter of the AGO is hosting a POE in Syracuse this week = and, as part of the activities, Todd Wilson will be playing a recital tomorrow evening (Tuesday, July 11th), at 7:30pm in Hendricks Chapel, Syracuse University (Holtkamp Organ). This is FREE and open to the public.   Bonnie Beth Derby, B.Mus, M.Mus. Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse (1927 E.M. Skinner) orge@dreamscape.com    
(back) Subject: Summer Recitals From: "Ed Brown" <edbroorg@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:56:16 -0400 (EDT)   I will be in Williamstown, Mass all of next week. Are there any organ recitals in the area at that time? I will be in southern and western Florida in August particularly Miami, Lauderdale,Naples, Ft Myers areas. Same question as above.. Thanks for the help Ed Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages" From: "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:20:59 -0500   Don't grin, Bud, I'd kill for a copy, just to say I had one. A photocopy = will do. Let me know how much it will cost me. Big grin! Maynard   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > I HAVE Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages", if you want a copy (grin). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Maynard Cuppy wrote: > > > This has nothing to do with the message below, but while we're on the = subject of > > oldies but moldies, has anyone seen a copy of Dudley Buck's "Rock of = Ages" > > lately? Not there's a Victorian gem for you! I happen to like the = piece and > > it's certainly of better quality than the hymn we all know and love. > > Maynard > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: There's A Friend For Little Children From: "Maynard Cuppy" <cuppy.maynard@mcleodusa.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:23:37 -0500   GOOD GRIEF! Even Hallmark can do better than that! I just checked behind my chair for that little paper bag, but it was gone. = Oh well, too late... Maynard   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > Aw, Bob, you old softy ... I suppose you don't like this one, either: > > There's a Friend for little children > Above the bright blue sky, > A Friend who never changes, > Whose love will never die; > Our earthly friends may fail us, > And change with changing years, > This Friend is always worthy > Of that dear name he bears. > > There's a rest ... > > There's a song ... > > There's a home ... > > There's a crown ... > > There's a song ... > > There's a robe ... > > I was APPALLED to find this ISN'T in the 1940 Hymnal, but rather in the > "Catechism" section of the august English Hymnal. I KNOW I learned it = growing > up, and I didn't encounter an English Hymnal parish until I was in = college. > Perhaps it was in the 1916 Hymnal or "The New Hymnal" ... we still used = those > at St. Paul's in the late '50s. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Bob Scarborough wrote: > > > At 05:17 PM 7/10/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > >"Up on the blue, blue > > >mountains, /Dewy pastures are sweet,/Rest for the little bodies,/Rest = for > > >the little feet")<snip> > > > > GAAAAAACK! <barf vomit hurl> > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:47:58 -0700   Send me a snail mail address, but it'll be August before I do any of this = ... I'm on VACATION (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Maynard Cuppy wrote:   > Don't grin, Bud, I'd kill for a copy, just to say I had one. A = photocopy will do. > Let me know how much it will cost me. > Big grin! > Maynard > > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > I HAVE Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages", if you want a copy (grin). > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bud > > > > Maynard Cuppy wrote: > > > > > This has nothing to do with the message below, but while we're on = the subject of > > > oldies but moldies, has anyone seen a copy of Dudley Buck's "Rock of = Ages" > > > lately? Not there's a Victorian gem for you! I happen to like the = piece and > > > it's certainly of better quality than the hymn we all know and love. > > > Maynard > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:57:54 EDT   In a message dated 7/10/00 7:04:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << I HAVE Dudley Buck's "Rock of Ages", if you want a copy (grin). >>     Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502