PipeChat Digest #1519 - Sunday, July 16, 2000
 
Re: Happy Birthday, Carlo
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Fw: my birthday
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: my birthday
  by "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com>
Weddings, Weddings
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Weddings, Funerals
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Weddings, Funerals
  by <CareyOrgan@aol.com>
Re: Weddings, Funerals
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: the all-purpose organ
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
The Church Organ Situation
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@bellatlantic.net>
Heiller Retrospective X-post
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
OHS Convention Reminder
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Fw: The Church Organ Situation
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Fw: The Church Organ Situation
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Weddings, Weddings
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: my birthday
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Anton Heiller
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
classified ads
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: my birthday
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: my birthday
  by "Roy Wilson" <royjaneann@hotmail.com>
Re: Weddings, Weddings
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Weddings, Weddings
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Flentrops et al.
  by <stalan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Methodist (was Doppelflutes, Unda Marii, Ersatz Gemshorns and  Ernie-
  by <stalan@ix.netcom.com>
Re: In the news.... (OFF-TOPIC) (grin)
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Carlo From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 03:02:14   At 03:36 AM 7/16/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Mea culpa due to >advancing age!<snip>   Don't give it a thought....but...it gets worse as you age further.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Fw: my birthday From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:16:18 -0500   Happy B-day, Carlo. Wait till ya hit 48!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> To: Pipe Chat <pipechat@pipechat.org>; Organ Chat <organchat@eGroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:03 AM Subject: my birthday     > *happy birthday to me* > I turn 30 today.........hurray!!!!!! > > Carlo > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: my birthday From: "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:16:11 GMT   happy birthday. from Louisiana.     ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: "Pipe Chat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>, "Organ Chat" <organchat@eGroups.com> Subject: my birthday Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 03:03:27 -0400   *happy birthday to me* I turn 30 today.........hurray!!!!!!   Carlo   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Weddings, Weddings From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:18:27 -0400   Just blowing off steam, here.   Yesterday, I played two weddings with mixed results.   At the first one, the sexton came up (the organ is in a balcony, so we can't rely on visual cues) to tell me that it was time to seat the = parents, so I started in on "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" (the standard that our minister likes for this purpose). I played all the way through the damned thing, and at the very end, two people walked up to one of the front box pews where the parents are supposed to sit. Assuming that they were in place, I started in on the Clarke Trumpet Voluntary, and lo and behold, = the parents were escorted up the aisle. About halfway through the third pass (all sections, all repeats!) the bridal party finally figured out that = they were supposed to mosey on up the aisle. I was starting to wonder just how many times I was going to have to play it- three full passes sets a new record for me in this church.   The second wedding party got all their cues right, but the bride was 45 minutes late- I'm up in the balcony thinking "What else did I bring? If I pull out something long, the bride's sure to arrive in 30 seconds, but I'd rather play something substantial than a whole string of 2-pagers" and = such like.   Does anyone have a policy on late starts? I'm thinking of saying that if the wedding starts more than say, 20 minutes late, I need extra remuneration. I usually play for 1/2 hour before the ceremony, so this one meant I played for an hour and fifteen minutes- just about a full recital program, since there wasn't an intermission!   Paul     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Funerals From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 11:20:17 -0700   Naw, no policy at St. Matt's ... ours have all started within five minutes = of the announced time. And we don't have special music to seat the parents, = etc.   When the priest and the groomsmen come out of the sacristy, that's my one = and only signal ... since we don't play "Here Comes the Bride" or "There Goes = the Bride", I start the Processional Hymn or the trumpet thingie or whatever = I'm gonna do when I see the whites of the groom's eyes (grin), and that's it.   Same deal at the end: they kiss; I play, or we sing; save me a glass of = bubbly .... I'm always the LAST one to get to the reception (grin).   I DID have to cover for a FUNERAL being 30 minutes late starting once ... = the hearse couldn't find the church ... DUH! We ARE hard to find, but not THAT hard.   In other places that started weddings when they felt like it, MY stated = policy was: you get a half-hour recital as part of the package ... you run more = than five minutes late, I go out for a cigarette, and STAY out until the bride presents herself at the west doors.   Cheers,   Bud       Paul Opel wrote:   > Just blowing off steam, here. > > Yesterday, I played two weddings with mixed results. > > At the first one, the sexton came up (the organ is in a balcony, so we > can't rely on visual cues) to tell me that it was time to seat the = parents, > so I started in on "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" (the standard that our > minister likes for this purpose). I played all the way through the = damned > thing, and at the very end, two people walked up to one of the front box > pews where the parents are supposed to sit. Assuming that they were in > place, I started in on the Clarke Trumpet Voluntary, and lo and behold, = the > parents were escorted up the aisle. About halfway through the third pass > (all sections, all repeats!) the bridal party finally figured out that = they > were supposed to mosey on up the aisle. I was starting to wonder just = how > many times I was going to have to play it- three full passes sets a new > record for me in this church. > > The second wedding party got all their cues right, but the bride was 45 > minutes late- I'm up in the balcony thinking "What else did I bring? If = I > pull out something long, the bride's sure to arrive in 30 seconds, but = I'd > rather play something substantial than a whole string of 2-pagers" and = such > like. > > Does anyone have a policy on late starts? I'm thinking of saying that if > the wedding starts more than say, 20 minutes late, I need extra > remuneration. I usually play for 1/2 hour before the ceremony, so this = one > meant I played for an hour and fifteen minutes- just about a full = recital > program, since there wasn't an intermission! > > Paul > > http://www.sover.net/~popel > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Funerals From: <CareyOrgan@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:56:45 EDT   Yea Bud!  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Funerals From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:40:28 -0400   I've sort of wished I could leave, but somehow I just keep hoping that someone will slip me a tip. I was attending a wedding once when my friend the groom fainted, and we sat in the church for 20 minutes and then = another 20 minutes outside until the affair resumed. There were musicians there, a harpsichord and 'cello playing Bach, but they didn't play anything more than what they'd been contracted for. From a guest's perspective, that was an awful time- music would have helped. I know that my friend would have coughed up whatever they asked for if they'd played.   Keeping the music going makes the experience of waiting for some dippy bride (or lost hearse) less miserable for the assembly-I just wanna get rewarded afterwards!   Paul   > >In other places that started weddings when they felt like it, MY stated = policy >was: you get a half-hour recital as part of the package ... you run more = than >five minutes late, I go out for a cigarette, and STAY out until the bride >presents herself at the west doors. > >Cheers, > >Bud >   >   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: the all-purpose organ From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:54:45 +0100   >As has been pointed out before, GDH *knew* how to build C-C reeds; he >DIDN'T, for the simple reason that (1) he didn't LIKE them (supposedly) >and (2) they would have sounded HORRIBLE in the average American church. >We only have a handful of churches in this country in which unaltered >C-C voicing techniques could be used successfully. It takes a whole LOT >of acoustics to absorb and temper all THAT racket (grin).     I remember at Poitiers Cathedral, at the console the reeds sounded brash = and frankly, horrible. However, anywhere else in the cathedral they sounded absolutely exquisite.   Richard Pinel    
(back) Subject: The Church Organ Situation From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:46:58 -0400   The state of the situation in which we find ourselves concerning the use = of the organ in church is becoming even worse than I thought.   In today's Baltimore Sun (a nationally read newspaper) are two classifieds for church musician, which I quote without spelling corrections:   (1) Church Pianist- needed for small West Balto church. Must read notes. Tel #.   (2) Pianist- Fast growing church in Essex looking for dedicated Minister = or Music/Organist/Pianist. Must play by air. Reading of music is preferred = but not required. Competitive salary. Tel.#   What are the church organist positions coming to?   Paul In amazement in Balto.        
(back) Subject: Heiller Retrospective X-post From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:05:34 -0400   In the 1960s and early 1970s, American organ students flocked to Vienna to study with the phenomenal Anton Heiller. Heiller visited Boston to play recitals on the Fisk organ he much admired in Appleton Chapel of Memorial Church at Harvard ("At last, America has a good organ," he is reported to have said.) He made a famous recording of the Hindemith sonatas on the organ, released on LP in the mid 1970s and long unavailable. He gave several recitals on the instrument as well. Now, Josiah Fisk and David = Moran have gathered four of his live recital performances at Harvard (never = before released) and placed them, along with the famous Hindemith Sonatas, on = four CDs which they have produced as a labor of love. OHS has these new 4-CD = sets available at http://www.ohscatalog.org   Included on the four CDs are:   CD 1: from the recital of 28 December 1967 Bach Canonical variations on Vom Himmel hoch, da komm ich her, S.769 Bach Prelude & fugue in C, S547 Reger Phantasia & fugue on Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, Op. 52 no. 2 Heiller Improvisation on a submitted theme   CD 2: Recital of 8 November 8 1968 Cl=E9rambault Suite du deuxi=E8me ton Buxtehude Chorale-Fantasy on Wie sch=F6n leuchtet der Morgenstern Bach Partite diverse sopra Sei gegr=FCsset, Jesu g=FCtig, S.768 Reger Introduction and passacaglia in f (from Monologue, op. 63) Heiller Improvisation on a submitted theme   CD 3: Recital of 7 October 1971 (Bach) Prelude & fugue in G, S.541 Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend', S.709 Toccata & fugue in d, S.565 Chorale preludes from the Clavier=FCbung part III Kyrie, Gott Vater in Ewigkeit, S.669 Christe, aller Welt Trost, S.670 Kyrie, Gott heiliger Geist, S.671 Jesus, meine Zuversicht, S.728 Wir glauben all' an einen Gott, Vater, S.740 Passacaglia & fugue in c, S.582   CD 4 Bach Trio sonata V in C, S.529 (recital of 7 October 1971) Hindemith Organ sonatas 1, 2, 3 (recording of 1971 or -2)   Bill Van Pelt      
(back) Subject: OHS Convention Reminder From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:19:07 -0400   The early registration deadline for the OHS Convention in Boston (August 16-23) is tomorrow, July 17, after which the full-registration cost will rise $40.   One may register via FAX at 804-353-9266 or telephone at 804-353-9226 = (9:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern time, weekdays). Registration information is available at http://www.organsociety.org/boston   Of course, registration will continue to be available after July 17.   It would also be wise to secure hotel or dorm reservations as indicated on the website or on the printed registration form, which we have sent to all OHS members.   Those who are not members of OHS are welcome to attend as well. Please contact OHS if you would like printed registration materials. (In fact, non-members become members when they attend their first convention.)   Bill Van Pelt      
(back) Subject: Fw: The Church Organ Situation From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:23:42 -0500   Seems like they'll settle for what they kin git! The bad spillling is inexcuzable!   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul R. Swank <prswank@bellatlantic.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 3:46 PM Subject: The Church Organ Situation     > The state of the situation in which we find ourselves concerning the use of > the organ in church is becoming even worse than I thought. > > In today's Baltimore Sun (a nationally read newspaper) are two = classifieds > for church musician, which I quote without spelling corrections: > > (1) Church Pianist- needed for small West Balto church. Must read notes. > Tel #. > > (2) Pianist- Fast growing church in Essex looking for dedicated Minister or > Music/Organist/Pianist. Must play by air. Reading of music is preferred but > not required. Competitive salary. Tel.# > > What are the church organist positions coming to? > > Paul > In amazement in Balto. > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: The Church Organ Situation From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:40:15 -0500   VEAGUE wrote:   > Seems like they'll settle for what they kin git! The bad spillling is > inexcuzable!   In fairness, though, unless the church sent in written copy, you can't = blame the church for the "air/ear" mis-spelling.    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Weddings From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 17:55:39 -0400   About 9 years ago I played for a large ``wedding''. The start time was slated for 2pm with prelude music beginning at about 25 minutes before. = At about 15 minutes after two I was quietly informed by the Dean of the Cathedral that the ``groom'' had left town! An announcement was made to = the guests in the church and I played as they left - quietly. What a strange feeling! Anyone ever had that happen to them?   Peace!   Bonnie Beth Derby, B.Mus., M.Mus. Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse [1927 E.M. = Skinner] orge@dreamscape.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: Weddings, Weddings     > Yesterday, I played two weddings with mixed results.......... > > Does anyone have a policy on late starts? I'm thinking of saying that if > the wedding starts more than say, 20 minutes late, I need extra > remuneration. I usually play for 1/2 hour before the ceremony, so this = one > meant I played for an hour and fifteen minutes- just about a full = recital > program, since there wasn't an intermission! > > Paul      
(back) Subject: Re: my birthday From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 18:03:05 -0400   And I turn 53 (blush!) tomorrow the 17th.   At 03:03 AM 7/16/00 -0400, you wrote: >*happy birthday to me* >I turn 30 today.........hurray!!!!!! > >Carlo > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Anton Heiller From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:04:45 -0700   I may not have told this story on PipeChat ... if I have, please forgive.   It was not generally known that Heiller was a devout Roman Catholic, and a superb improviser on the Chant.   He played a recital in Cincinnati (in the '70s?) on the particularly intractable early Harrison and Harrison in the Conservatory concert hall = (built before they figured out the effect of central heating and air-conditioning = on organs assembled in damp British shops).   The date was November 2nd, and somebody on the theory faculty had = submitted a particularly ungrateful tone-row for the improvisation. My teacher, = Roberta Gary, was to give it to him. She looked at it at supper beforehand, and = showed it to me. I said, "It's All Souls' Day ... let's give him the 'Dies irae' = and the 'In paradisum' instead."   So I wrote out the chants, and we did.   When I took the paper up to the console, he put it on the music rack, = stared at it for a LONG time, then bowed his head for an equally long time, set a = few pistons, and began a MONUMENTAL organ symphony on the two themes ... it = must have lasted at LEAST thirty minutes. When he finished the last movement, a = quiet adagio on "In paradisum", he simply put his hands in his lap and sat = motionless at the console. It was dead-quiet in the hall for a good minute, at least; = then the place went NUTS.   French post-romantic it WASN'T ... it was very much in the vocabulary of = his "In Festo Corporis Christi" (which I played on my senior recital) and his = "Ecce lignum crucis", but it was stunning nonetheless.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: classified ads From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:33:01 -0700   That used to happen all the time when I worked in classified advertising. = The cutest one was probably:   "SHELTIE, F, purebred, 10 weeks, weaned, shits, $500. 555-1212"   The paper wouldn't give a refund for the mis-spelling of "shots", because = "it wasn't an error in fact" (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Noel Stoutenburg wrote:   > VEAGUE wrote: > > > Seems like they'll settle for what they kin git! The bad spillling is > > inexcuzable! > > In fairness, though, unless the church sent in written copy, you can't = blame the > church for the "air/ear" mis-spelling. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: my birthday From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:36:01 -0700   56 on August 17th ...   Cheers,   Bud   Evelyn Rowe wrote:   > And I turn 53 (blush!) tomorrow the 17th. > > At 03:03 AM 7/16/00 -0400, you wrote: > >*happy birthday to me* > >I turn 30 today.........hurray!!!!!! > > > >Carlo > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: my birthday From: "Roy Wilson" <royjaneann@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 16:55:59 PDT   Happy Birthday, Carlo:   Buono aniversario!   I am 30 years old today, too, plus 28 years, 2 months, and 21 days!   I'll play an improvisation tonight on "Las Ma=F1anitas" in your honor. = "Las Ma=F1anitas" is the Spanish-American birthday song. I don't know what is = sung in Italian. :o(   Bonne Anniversaire.   :o)   Roy Wilson     >From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "Pipe Chat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>, "Organ Chat" ><organchat@eGroups.com> >Subject: my birthday >Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 03:03:27 -0400 > >*happy birthday to me* >I turn 30 today.........hurray!!!!!! > >Carlo > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Weddings From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:04:09 EDT   In a message dated 7/16/00 1:53:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = popel@sover.net writes:   << Does anyone have a policy on late starts? I'm thinking of saying that = if the wedding starts more than say, 20 minutes late, I need extra remuneration. I usually play for 1/2 hour before the ceremony, so this = one meant I played for an hour and fifteen minutes- just about a full recital program, since there wasn't an intermission! >>   I think the goodwill from just continuing to play and ignoring the = lateness is worth not worrying about the money which is incredibly difficult to = get. I say don't worry about it! Life is too short!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Weddings From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 20:42:13 EDT   In a message dated 7/16/00 5:50:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, orge@dreamscape.com writes:   << At about 15 minutes after two I was quietly informed by the Dean of the Cathedral that the ``groom'' had left town! An announcement was made to = the guests in the church and I played as they left - quietly. What a strange feeling! Anyone ever had that happen to them? >>   HaHa.... mine was better. To preface, the mother of the bride was a = social climbing arch-b*****! Everyone had been treated badly. The day of = the wedding rolled around, and after playing in 18 bridesmaides (!!!), the service finally began. The minister asked her, "Do you take this man to be your lawfully wedded husband." To which she replied, "NO! That's one thing that my mother can't make me do!" The minister looked at the congregation and said, "I think we need a = minute." He returned about ten minutes later and said, "I have a couple of announcements. One.... there will be no wedding today; two.... there is some really great food in the fellowship hall!"   I played for the girls wedding a month later, when she married her = childhood sweetheart! No charge, just to irritate the Mom, who chose not to = attend.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Flentrops et al. From: <stalan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:13:30 -0500   > After all, wasn't it romantics like Dupre, Liszt and Widor > who were responsible for rediscovering Bach and reviving > the interest in his works?   Mendelssohn.   Although, the Liszt "piano arrangements" are great fun, if you've got the chops to play 'em.   > Bach can be reinterpreted very nicely on a romantic instrument.   Yes, <reinterpreted>, of course, anything can be. How successfully though? The trio sonatas make good candidates for the "romantic" instrument. Some of the chorale preludes, another choice. But, the <big> preludes and fugues, IMHO, are better served by an instrument possessing a germanic plenum, or <at least> an instrument capable of rendering polyphony (note: disclaimer), <where> the alto and tenor lines are not obscured by the soprano and bass. There ARE tracker organs that miserably fail here.   I listened to Dupr=E9 playing Bach on recordings as a student, many moons ago, and please don't take me wrong, as Dupr=E9 is most assuredly an icon of "l'orgue"; but his Bach interpretations, via his recordings, are really, forgive me, boring. And he recorded these upon a "romantic" French instrument. Yet, he did bring these to the attention of the French, n'est pas?   > "Don't throw out a perfectly good instrument [of ANY make] JUST > TO SATISFY A FAD or personal ego." Go for both!   Absolutely... "perfectly good"... never! But I think the strength of these "perfectly good" romantic instruments lies in what they <do> best... Bach, and polyphony in general, isn't one. Now, when we're talking melody and accompaniment... transcriptions...   I <do> hear and agree with what has been said via this thread. What is missing is that <we>, as performers, should approach an instrument on <it's> terms. As an aside, I also play the oboe. Yet, on occasion, using <another's> instrument, I find the key regulation not quite what I like, or a reed not cut exactly how <I> like, it's a matter of adapting. Or, JUST play the thing! <g> But, I'd be hard pressed to make any oboe sound like a clarinet....   Many cheers! Scott <stalan@ix.netcom.com>      
(back) Subject: Re: Methodist (was Doppelflutes, Unda Marii, Ersatz Gemshorns and Ernie-Boy) From: <stalan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:57:02 -0500   > As with other Methodist churches they are into to the big-band > sound with lots of flash and glitz. Loud is best! (sigh)   Hold on there! A hasty generalization! ;-)   Consider St. Paul's UMC in Houston and First UMC in Austin. I grant, these are exceptions. Nonetheless...   Scott stalan@ix.netcom.com    
(back) Subject: Re: In the news.... (OFF-TOPIC) (grin) From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:47:10 EDT   << Farm Street Church >>   Which reminds me, I have an old piece of choral music dedicated to the = "Kings Weigh House Church" in London. What was (is) that? Jerry in Seattle