PipeChat Digest #1530 - Sunday, July 23, 2000
 
Re: "make it pretty"
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: "make it pretty"
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: "make it pretty"
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: "Approved"
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: DSL Connections
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: "make it pretty"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: "make it pretty"
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Bo=CEllmann's Suite Gothique
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: "make it pretty"
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: DSL Connections
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Funerals and  "Cort=E8ge et Litanie",  Dupr=E9
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
List topics
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
ORGAN-BUILDERS, stay and talk to us
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1529 - 07/23/00
  by "Robert P. Bass" <rpbass@earthlink.net>
Re: Funerals and  "Cort=E8ge et Litanie", 	Dupr=E9
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #1529 - 07/23/00
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re:  Funerals and  "Cort=E8ge et Litanie",   Dupr=E9
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: ORGAN-BUILDERS, stay and talk to us
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:19:39   At 01:30 PM 7/23/2000 -0700, you wrote: >I can't >think of a THING written after 1940 that my people like.<snip>   It's called "knee-jerk conservatism", and it usually goes hand in hand = with the denomination you're dealing with.   >... if we sang THAT, they'd tar >and feather me on the SPOT.<snip>   See above, repeat over and over. > >OK ... so, fine (as the Church Lady would say) <schnip>   See above, repeat over and over.   >I'm preparing to do a season of "keep 'em happy and keep 'em off my back".<schip>   Here's the deal. Your in a shopping mall church populated by a small = group of Orange County arch conservatives that keep hoping that joint will turn into a time machine that'll take them back the Merrye Olde England is = 1885, where Queen Vic will smite those in the Church of England that DARE = propose anything new or different. So, you just have to provide what they want! Just like playing a Hammond in a band...you have to play to THEM, not THEM admire you for your artistic intelligence and foresight. Religion is like Disneyland...it's all illusionary, all "feel-good" stuff. Get people out of their little "comfort zones", and they go elsewhere, just like the park patron who doesn't like the new Dizzyland attractions and instead goes to Knott's. Hate to be brutally frank and wee wee on all the religious = people in here (I seem to do that a lot), but facts are facts.   Thus, like any other "church gig", you "play the hits"...or get another = gig!   Sometimes I attribute my "comfort zone" theory to the decline of = mainstream churches and the rise of the "happy-clappy/tilt-up" barns. Good pastors = in our established denominations, with a good, true message about Christianity, violate peoples' "comfort zones" when their preachings run afoul of the congregant's social or political "views du jour". So, off to Happy-Clappy Land they go, where there's no guilt, no pain, no penance, no responsibility, no worries. You can hate your brother or sister all you want in those places, be as greedy, arrogant, selfish, bigoted, and = idiotic as you want, whatever....all ya gotta do is BELIEVE...and "Pass The Loot"! Now, let's turn to Happy-Clappy Song #582, repeat 7 words 11 times, all = all FEEL GOOD!   DeserTBoB ....who's cynical but realistic 365 days a year.  
(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:28:47 EDT   Dear Bud:   Hang in there old buddy! It'll take strength and courage, but you can do = it! Improvise! These people are a dime a dozen, complaining put $.25 in the collection = and feel it's $.15 too much, but they are being generous! There are trouble makers = in every congregation. They don't stay long if the majority like your music. Don't = let people like this destroy, divide, and conquer. It really takes guts, but you = already know that! As long as its beautiful, worshipful, go for it! Talk to your pastor about it and find out where he's coming from. If you have his support, don't worry, if = you don't. modify If they are worthy of you. Despots reside everywhere, and so do = good people! You have to make a choice, are they worth it or not? Most people in a congregation will support good worthy music, find out what they comment on most = positively and do more like that. You'll enjoy it more too.   Sincerely yours,   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:54:52 -0500   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > The odd thing is, with all the new compositions in the past fifty years, = what > people WANT to hear hasn't changed one IOTA. It's like somebody drew a = thick > black line across the calendar sometime around WWII, and that's it. I = can't > think of a THING written after 1940 that my people like. > > I'll admit I'm not a great proponent of most contemporary church music, = serious > or otherwise. But I wouldn't DARE play "The Celestial Banquet" at St. = Matthew's,   which prompts me to doubt that the issue is "calendar related", as = Messiaen's "Le Banquet Celeste" was written pre-1940: 1932, IIRC.   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: "Approved" From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:58:51 EDT   Dear Chris Johns:   God is most happy with our efforts when we attempt to please Him alone. He =   doesn't expect perfect He expects worship. I tell people, I don't work for you, or =   the pastor, or anyone else, but God! He, afterall has done great things for us, what = we truly owe Him in return is our feeble, humble, best, with Him doing most, or all the =   work! I believe this pleases Him the most. One of the prophets, I believe Isaah = said All of our poor efforts are nothing but filthy rags. This should put things into perspective, with His help, all things are acceptable to Him, even our filthy rags, because it was done to worship Him alone!   Sincerely yours,   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: DSL Connections From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:01:36 EDT   Dear Doc:   $39.00 per month is the going rate!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:37:46 -0700   True ... I was generalizing ... I knew Le Banquet Celeste was earlier = (grin) ... but in GENERAL, one didn't find his music on most service lists in the US = until considerably later. Oberlin was, as usual, at the forefront of the = avant-garde, and they started teaching and playing his music in the '50s, I think.   What IS at issue, of course, is that the compositions need to be in the = tonal, conservative Edwardian or Victorian STYLE in order to be acceptable.   I thought perhaps some of the "milder" movements of Tournemire's "L'Orgue = Mystique" might serve as an introduction to Langlais and Messiaen ... HAH!!!   "What was wrong with the organ this morning?" (PLENTY, but it had nothing = to do with the MUSIC being played).   Cheers,   Bud   Noel Stoutenburg wrote:   > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > The odd thing is, with all the new compositions in the past fifty = years, what > > people WANT to hear hasn't changed one IOTA. It's like somebody drew a = thick > > black line across the calendar sometime around WWII, and that's it. I = can't > > think of a THING written after 1940 that my people like. > > > > I'll admit I'm not a great proponent of most contemporary church = music, serious > > or otherwise. But I wouldn't DARE play "The Celestial Banquet" at St. = Matthew's, > > which prompts me to doubt that the issue is "calendar related", as = Messiaen's "Le > Banquet Celeste" was written pre-1940: 1932, IIRC. > > ns > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:39:50 -0700   Thanks, Ron ... it has NOT been a good vacation, for a number of reasons. = I got sick yesterday and we had to turn around and come home.   Thanks for the words of encouragement!   Cheers,   Bud     RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Bud: > > Hang in there old buddy! It'll take strength and courage, but you can do = it! > Improvise! > These people are a dime a dozen, complaining put $.25 in the collection = and > feel > it's $.15 too much, but they are being generous! There are trouble = makers in > every > congregation. They don't stay long if the majority like your music. = Don't let > people > like this destroy, divide, and conquer. It really takes guts, but you = already > know that! As long as its beautiful, worshipful, go for it! Talk to your > pastor about it and > find out where he's coming from. If you have his support, don't worry, = if you > don't. > modify If they are worthy of you. Despots reside everywhere, and so do = good > people! > You have to make a choice, are they worth it or not? Most people in a > congregation > will support good worthy music, find out what they comment on most = positively > and > do more like that. You'll enjoy it more too. > > Sincerely yours, > > Ron > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Bo=CEllmann's Suite Gothique From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:38:29 -0500   Bob Scarborough wrote: > > At 11:08 AM 7/23/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >Are they saying that the 4 movements are not "gothic" in > >nature?<snip> > > Not "Gothic" in the true nominative sense, but possibly an adjective > "gothic", pertaining to the sinister, macabre and menacing, as the final > movement aptly suggests.   Yes, that is what I had always understood it to mean too -- "gothic" in the same kind of way as Gothic Novels.   I don't know if it is my imagination, but it is certainly my impression that the Gothic Suite is played much less often than it used to be when I first got interested in organs around thirty or forty years ago. If so, I think this is rather a pity, since it is a wonderful suite.   John Speller  
(back) Subject: Re: "make it pretty" From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:05:08   At 06:28 PM 7/23/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Talk to your >pastor about it and >find out where he's coming from.<snip>   Oh, I think Bud's already done that...and he's part of the problem...   >Most people in a >congregation >will support good worthy music<snip>   ....not if they don't LIKE it, they won't!   I see RoN's got his Pollyanna outfit on today....   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: DSL Connections From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:15:50 -0400   Hey to Charles and y'all!   I've just returned from a week of vacation in Nashville so I'm still speaking "suthrun."   At 01:00 PM 7/23/00 +0000, Charles wrote:   >I just got DSL, through Bell Atlantic, this past week and I am really >impressed with it.   I have had the "fast access" DSL line from Bell South for about six months or so and I love it. I considered the cable fast line, too, but the phone service is more stable than the local cable company and seemed to be faster, as well. Our cell phone is from Bell South, too (just one bill is great for telephone, DSL and cell phone).   > >First of all, the hook-up is very easy.   The BellSouth service person took about 15 minutes to install the ethernet board in my computer and do the hookup. I love it that even though we have two phone lines in the house, I can still have the computer on the same line as a voice line.   > >The speed is incredible. As you may know, the DSL line is always on. As = an >example, a file that was going to take me 1hr 45min to download with a = 56k >modem, now only takes about 6-minutes.   When I returned home from vacation I had a zillion e-mails from the different lists I to which I subscribe and never look forward to the download, however, with DSL, it only took a few minutes.   > >Believe me, it is well worth putting it in. I have nothing but praise for >it.   I agree with Charles. Also, the technician hooked up AOL to work with the DSL, too, so I have the best of it all. Buy it. You'll love it.     Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: Funerals and "Cort=E8ge et Litanie", Dupr=E9 From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:24:02 EDT   In a message dated 7/23/00 6:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << It's a piece for funerals and Days of Remembrance, which few organists seem to know/pay attention to ... I guess the custom of playing big corteges at = the ends of funerals hadn't QUITE died out in Dupre's time. >>   This is very interesting indeed. What historic ground is this statement built on? A very useful piece for such an occasion but I am curious as to = why the piece was, according to this writer, intended for a funeral or = memorial service......I have never heard this before.   Scott Foppiano  
(back) Subject: List topics From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:23:39 -0500   At the risk of being scourged and thrown out, may I humbly suggest that we need a new list or lists. I was warned, but decided to try both lists for a while. Now I find that, in spite of the names, neither are primarily about the pipe organ. Surely there are many others out there who are tired of deleting the many postings on other topics! I, for one, am certainly not interested in dicsussing the latest bites or barks, and I have deleted enough wedding stories to last several lifetimes. I understand that organists need a list for discussing repertoire and technique, and perhaps tell a few wedding stories, but this, along with the electronic interests, makes our list much too broad to be practical. I think this is the source of the many fights on the list recently. Webmasters, and others, please consider adding more lists of spicific interest. Roy Redman    
(back) Subject: Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:18:47   At 06:38 PM 7/23/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I don't know if it is my imagination, but it is certainly my impression >that the Gothic Suite is played much less often than it used to be when >I first got interested in organs around thirty or forty years ago. If >so, I think this is rather a pity, since it is a wonderful suite.<snip>   As with the late French Romantic organ symphonies, Suite Gothique gets chopped to bits, with usually only the "Priere" and the "Toccata" surviving. Fox tended to run the "Toccata" into the ground (as he did everything else, including BVW 565, "The Ubiquitous"), so it went on the back burner for most recitalists for quite awhile, I believe. The whole work does indeed make a wonderful suite of contrasting pieces. The first and second movements are particularly nice pieces in their own right, and are the most neglected.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: ORGAN-BUILDERS, stay and talk to us From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:49:34 -0700   I got tossed off PipeARGH! practically the MOMENT I came online (grin) ... which would indicate to me that surely they and/or PipeORGUE are serious enough (grin).   What about ISO? Do they have anything online?   Roy, personally I wish more organ-builders would talk about organ-builder-type "stuff" on these lists ... you can lead an organist to water, but you can't make him read Dom Bedos (or at LEAST Barnes), and = most NEED to. Those that AREN'T interested in the technical aspects can = certainly use their "delete" keys. Me, I'll hang in there until you get into the higher math (grin).   We're quick to blame organ-builders when a project goes wrong, BUT ... the church is the paying customer, and what's a builder to do if the paying customer's only half-way knowledgeable person (the organist) doesn't know = a pallet from a piston and/or thinks he knows how to draw up a stoplist??!! = I know most of us THINK we do, but do we REALLY???   OTOH, not naming any names here (grin), some builders seem to think their craft has to be kept about as secret as the formula for Coke. Seems to me = we could ALL benefit from an open exchange of information (even if the organists don't understand half of it) (grin).   AND, I actually know some builders who DON'T PLAY THE ORGAN ... I can't IMAGINE. I said to a builder that I needed a Tierce for the Jeu de Tierce = in Couperin, and he didn't know what I was talking about. I don't think you have to be a concert organist in order to build organs, but it seems to me builders at least have to know the basics of what the MUSIC requires.   So, Roy, don't go away; enlighten us; and we'll try to do the same; although, as I recall, you can play 'em too.   Cheers,   Bud       Roy Redman wrote:   > At the risk of being scourged and thrown out, may I humbly suggest that > we need a new list or lists. I was warned, but decided to try both > lists for a while. Now I find that, in spite of the names, neither are > primarily about the pipe organ. Surely there are many others out there > who are tired of deleting the many postings on other topics! I, for > one, am certainly not interested in dicsussing the latest bites or > barks, and I have deleted enough wedding stories to last several > lifetimes. I understand that organists need a list for discussing > repertoire and technique, and perhaps tell a few wedding stories, but > this, > along with the electronic interests, makes our list much too broad to be > practical. I think this is the source of the many fights on the list > recently. > Webmasters, and others, please consider adding more lists of spicific > interest. > Roy Redman > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1529 - 07/23/00 From: "Robert P. Bass" <rpbass@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:49:11 -0800   Mack,   I recently signed up for the Earthlink DSL service. Their package = deal is much better than going direct to the local phone company. And Earthlink, as a Major ISP (read that as the 2nd largest ISP), has some = clout when making requests to the local phone companies.   Unfortunately my local phone provider, Pacific Bell, has not provisioned our area for DSL yet. But they are in the process of laying fiber from = the CO to all areas within the city. I have been told by a friend (who = happens to be a PacBell employee) that DSL provisioning is being given the highest priority.   Bob       > Subject: DSL Connections > From: "Mack" <dm726@delphi.com> > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:34:46 -0400 > > Greetings Pipechatters, > > This is slightly off topic but would like to inquire as to members > experiences with DSL connections for their computers. I am presently > considering an offer from Earthlink for my area. > > I would like opinions pro and con, I have already heard some of both but > need more info to make an informed decision. > > Thanks for your help. > > Cheers, > Dave McPeak <Mack> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Funerals and "Cort=E8ge et Litanie", Dupr=E9 From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:02:50 -0700   I had it from Fenner Douglass, who had it either from Marchal or from = Dupre himself.   Also, stylistically, it's much too restrained for an entrance OR an exit = cortege at a wedding, the other occasion for which the title "Cortege" was = commonly used.   I have seen the word "Cortege" occasionally applied to the Corpus Christi procession; less often to the Candlemas procession; and for some reason, practically never to the Palm Sunday procession. So your choices are = pretty much wedding or funeral.   The Litany tune can be read as being in Mode IV ... la, la, sol, la, sol, = fa, mi .... I'll BET you'll find that incipit SOMEWHERE in the Gregorian Mass = and/or Office for the Dead. I don't see it right off the bat, but I'll bet it's = there. You CAN pull it out of the Sanctus of the Requiem, but I'll bet there's = something even MORE specific.   By the time you got to the full organ at the end, most of the mourners = would be OUTSIDE the church ... which is a GOOD place to be when the St. Sulpice = C-C gets to full organ (grin) ... and it would have been appropriate to hear the = final triumphant page from a distance.       Cheers,   Bud   ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/23/00 6:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > > << It's a piece for funerals and Days of Remembrance, which few = organists > seem to > know/pay attention to ... I guess the custom of playing big corteges at = the > ends of funerals hadn't QUITE died out in Dupre's time. >> > > This is very interesting indeed. What historic ground is this statement > built on? A very useful piece for such an occasion but I am curious as = to why > the piece was, according to this writer, intended for a funeral or = memorial > service......I have never heard this before. > > Scott Foppiano > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #1529 - 07/23/00 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:09:47   At 05:49 PM 7/23/2000 -0800, you wrote: >I have been told by a friend (who happens to >be a PacBell employee) that DSL provisioning is being given the highest >priority.<snip>   Indeed it has. Don't look for Pac Bell (or any other LSP) to be too friendly with Earthkink or any other ISP once they've got a large investment in "fiber to the curb" out there. There will be 'equal access' fights on the DSL issue, matching those of the same issue about long distance carriers a few years ago.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Funerals and "Cort=E8ge et Litanie", Dupr=E9 From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:26:34   At 08:24 PM 7/23/2000 EDT, you wrote: >A very useful piece for such an occasion but I am curious as to why=20 >the piece was, according to this writer, intended for a funeral or memorial= =20 >service......I have never heard this before.<snip>   You've never heard of a funeral cort=E8ge? Oh, geez...   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique From: <CHERCAPA@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:05:10 EDT   Dear Bob, Well so far I seem to have "mastered" the first three movements = but the fourth, the Toccata will be a while. After I have the carpal done on = my left hand I might feel that I have a chance to master the fourth.So far, = the coordination is off and I attribute it to the left hand no quite listening = to my brain accurately.Some wiring problems. LOL Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: ORGAN-BUILDERS, stay and talk to us From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:59:59   At 05:49 PM 7/23/2000 -0700, you wrote: >We're quick to blame organ-builders when a project goes wrong, BUT ... = the >church is the paying customer, and what's a builder to do if the paying >customer's only half-way knowledgeable person (the organist) doesn't know = a >pallet from a piston and/or thinks he knows how to draw up a stoplist??!! =   An astute observation. Most organists have never been in their chambers nor have tuned a single pipe. Of all the musical instruments, the piano and organ stand alone in their apparent divorce of their technical aspects from their respective players.   >OTOH, not naming any names here (grin), some builders seem to think their >craft has to be kept about as secret as the formula for Coke.<snip>   Of course! American business ethics at work! Don't educated your customer, it'll cost you work and profit! It's just like how the auto dealers, aided by the manufacturers, tried to scare people off from servicing their own automobiles. "You can't do that! It's too = technical!" Baloney. A series of successful lawsuits by the California Bureau of Consumer Affairs, after some dealers refused to do warranty work after customers had done their own minor maintenance, finally put and end to it. = However, as Bud says, you have to KNOW what you're doing first, before sticking your fingers into the works. I've known several builders/technicians who are more than happy to train right-minded organists how to do proper touch-up tuning, how to check wind, and other minor chores, thus saving them service calls. However, there were others that would let loose with a hellacious smoke screen about "You can't do that! It's too technical!" Baloney. Still, just like cars, there ARE some players that SHOULDN'T touch the innards of any organ, as their mechanical aptitude is equivalent to that of a paramecium.   >AND, I actually know some builders who DON'T PLAY THE ORGAN ...<snip>   You mean a majority.   >I don't think you >have to be a concert organist in order to build organs, but it seems to = me >builders at least have to know the basics of what the MUSIC = requires.<snip>   Very true. That's how Skinner, et al, got sidetracked onto the = "Hope-Jones spur" back in the 'teens and twenties. He and others lost sight of the compass of all organ literature, and concentrated on mushy backdrops for hymns and anthems of the time for their customers, the churches. This "specialization" would spill over into important secular installations, too; in Skinner's case, the Palace of the Legion of Honor in San = Francisco, and the UCLA Royce Hall organ. In the case of Royce Hall, judicious additions of upperwork were done during the rebuild after the '94 earthquake, making the instrument much more usable over a wider range of literature, as well as make it tonally less "opaque" in the ensemble, a complaint I have about many of Skinner's organs.   There's plenty on this list to please a lot of people, including lots of fun repartee amongst the cast of characters <snicker>. I'm afeared that a listed dedicated to ONLY organ building topics would have a small following, and be rather...uh...droll?   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Bo=EBllmann's Suite Gothique From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:23:33   At 10:05 PM 7/23/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Dear Bob, Well so far I seem to have "mastered" the first three movements but >the fourth, the Toccata will be a while. After I have the carpal done on = my >left hand I might feel that I have a chance to master the fourth.So far, = the >coordination is off and I attribute it to the left hand no quite = listening to >my brain accurately.Some wiring problems.<snip>   Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is a SERIOUS ailment, and affects organists disproportionatly, especially if you do long practice sessions. Same = rules of VDT and computer operators apply...take frequent breaks, do stretching exercises, etc. The most IMPORTANT thing I found is that letting one's wrists get too low will wreak havoc with the carpel tunnel. Keep them wrists nice 'n high! <whacking hands with ruler...>   Prevention is better than the nerve surgery. Once the damage is done, and surgery is required, there's a numbness in the hand that hinders = dexterity. I served on a national committee dealing with Carpet Tunnel Syndrome in the workplace, and have seen many people rendered permanently disabled because of it. When your hands start to hurt, it's time to take a break...NOW!   DeserTBoB