PipeChat Digest #1541 - Monday, July 31, 2000
 
TRACKER PROBLEMS
  by "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com>
Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
OHS Convention Hotel
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Re: @#$%&#?! churches
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Hidden vs Exposed
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Hidden vs Exposed
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: @#$%&#?! churches
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Service Music: Holy Trinity--Gainvesville FL
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Hidden vs Exposed
  by "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net>
Re: Hidden vs Exposed
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Buxtehude Chorale Preludes
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Trying to Locate
  by <SchultzRH@aol.com>
today's wedding
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Was Retiring and !@%#* Churches
  by "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: Was Retiring and !@%#* Churches
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
church-bashing? (X-posted)
  by <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 


(back) Subject: TRACKER PROBLEMS From: "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:19:31 GMT   A few days ago there was some talk about the subject matter on this site. =   There are some problems with an organ that I have been asked to service. = If there is any interest, the problems can be put on this site. If not, the problems can be taken to the builder. Lamar ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:02:47 EDT   In a message dated 7/30/00 8:20:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = lmar@hotmail.com writes:   << There are some problems with an organ that I have been asked to = service. If there is any interest, the problems can be put on this site. >>   But of course! Always curious.   Alan B  
(back) Subject: OHS Convention Hotel From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:14:21 -0400   The Boston Park Plaza hotel is totally sold out of rooms for the first = night of the OHS Convention, August 16th - not just at the convention rate. However, rooms for all other nights of the convention, August 17-23, = remain available, or at least they were on Friday.   Fortunately, we have been able to extend the low rate of $129 + 12.45% tax double or single occupancy on a "rooms available" basis until August 1. = So, please register at the hotel NOW if you need a place to stay during the = OHS Convention. As of Friday, rooms were available for all nights except = August 15 and August 16. Call the Boston Park Plaza at 1-800-225-2008. A possibility for the nights of August 15 and 16 is the nearby Omni Parker House, 617-725-1633, though we have no block of rooms there. Read on for the option of staying at the air-conditioned dorm at great savings.   And, please register with OHS, too, if you haven't already at 804-353-9226 Monday through Friday 9:30 a.m. to 5 p.m.   More good news: single and double rooms at the air-conditioned dormitory = of Suffolk University are still available and will remain so, we believe, = until August 9. These rooms are but $45 per night per person, double occupancy (or $65 single occupancy), and they include breakfast. Moreover, there is no tax. Download a registration form for the dormitory at http://www.organsociety.org/boston/accom/suffolk.pdf or call OHS at 804-353-9226 and we can snail mail or FAX the form to you.   Further good news: Another great Hook organ has been added to the = itinerary in Jamaica Plain on Friday, August 18. Essentially unplayable for = decades, the 3m E. & G. G. Hook of 50 registers built in 1854 for St. Paul's Episcopal (Cathedral) in Boston (now home to the 1950 A-S op. 1207) and moved by Hutchings to St. Thomas Aquinas in Jamaica Plain before 1900 will receive gratis restorative repairs at the hands of several volunteer organbuilders to make it playable for the OHS convention. So, it will be heard with the other great Hooks in Jamaica Plain, including the 1854 3m = at the Unitarian Church (where the Hooks attended for awhile) and the 1859 3m at the First Baptist Church. On that Friday evening we'll hear George Bozeman play the magnificent 1860 E. & G. G. Hook 3m at First = Congregational inWoburn. In all, 14 organs built by the firm between 1854 and 1900 will = be heard during the OHS convention.   Some of the organs can be seen on the Boston convention website http://www.organsociety.org/boston/   Bill Van Pelt      
(back) Subject: Re: @#$%&#?! churches From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:13:05   At 11:56 PM 7/29/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not rich, nor Republican (I hate politics), so I don't fit in their >Sunday Morning Country Club atmosphere.<snip>   On the other hand, politics is my religion. What happens in Congress and the White House directly affects your quality of life, and the life of all Americans, as well as our enviroment and security. The intrustion of corporate interests and trailer-trash/tilt-up church right winger factions into the electoral process should be truly alarming to everyone. As far = as most churches I've been associated with, I have to agree..they are a = social club. Thus, many times, a new organ become more of a status simbol for those members of the "club", rather than a valid musical tool. I draw a conclusion that this has furthered "TrackerMania" to a large degree in the last 30 years, but my feelings on THAT subject are already well known!   >I tithe to worthwhile charities- which are few and far between. I can = well >read my Bible at home and get MORE out of it.<snip>   You're probably doing more good that way than participating the church-run "slush funds". Keep up the good work!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Hidden vs Exposed From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:16:21   At 01:39 PM 7/30/2000 +0800, you wrote: >It seems to me, Bob, that you should emigrate!!!   No worries, mate, I'll jest pop on down! Slip anothah shrimp on the = bahbie for me!   By the way...can you get Ah Tee Ah radio wheah you'ah at?   Practicing to "blend", DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:19:11   At 12:19 PM 7/30/2000 GMT, you wrote: >There are some problems with an organ that I have been asked to service.<snip>   Problems??? With a TRACKER??? Horrors! It MUST be those American Classicist/eletropneumatic people doing sabotage! The NERVE!   <snarf snarf snicker!>   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Hidden vs Exposed From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:46:13 EDT   In a message dated 7/29/00 7:35:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Myosotis51@aol.com writes:   << I agree - the pastor should never be on the hiring/firing committee. = It truly does shake one's beliefs to be dropped like a hot potato at this = point in my life. >>   I worked in a parish once where the rector refused to participate or vote = on any parish committee. When he attended meetings and his guidance was requested, he gave it. But when there was a big disagreement, he would = say, "Well, what would Jesus have done." This disarmed the aggressors, and led = to many much better decisions.   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: @#$%&#?! churches From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:46:16 EDT   In a message dated 7/29/00 8:27:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << Back when I had money, I gave the church where I was organist (MCC/SD) = a nice new Rodgers organ; several years later, they FIRED me to SAVE money. Go figure >>   Well, I think giving a church an 'lectronic is grounds for dismissal!! heeheehee (sorry, just couldn't hep mahsef! )   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: TRACKER PROBLEMS From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:46:24 EDT   In a message dated 7/30/00 8:20:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = lmar@hotmail.com writes:   << A few days ago there was some talk about the subject matter on this = site. There are some problems with an organ that I have been asked to service. = If there is any interest, the problems can be put on this site. >>   Well, I'm game. Please post, or include me in the discussion.   Thanks   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Service Music: Holy Trinity--Gainvesville FL From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:46:27 EDT   The Seventh Sunday after Pentecost Holy Eucharist II - 10:30 am   Fr. Jeremy Hole, Preacher Fr. Jim Wright, Celebrant David Benson, Organist & Music Director   Music Preceding the Service--Fantasia et Fuga in c-minor . . . Bach Hymn in Procession (Lasst uns erfreuen) All creatures of our God and King =   .... 1-all, 2-all, 3-choir, 4-women, 5-men, 6 & 7-all Kyrie (Litany of the Saints - Proulx S-95) Sequence Hymn (Houston) I want to walk as a child of the light Offertory, Anthem--Poor Man Lazrus ... spiritual, arr. Jester Hairston Offertory Hymn (Forest Green) I sing the almighty power of God Sanctus/Benedictus & Agnus Dei (Powell) Memorial Acclamation (Ambrosian/Martens) Communion Music--Prelude on Spanish Hymn . . . Peeters Anthem--With heavenly comfort . . . Shaker hymn Communion Hymns (Song 1) Thou, who at thy first Eucharist didst pray; = (St. Colomba) The King of love my shepherd is Hymn in Procession (Ein feste Burg)   +++ Today we bade farewell to our lead tenor, Joe Johnson. He has a = wonderful voice and is an extremely talented man who not only sings, but does = arranging as well. We will really miss him. He graduated in French from the University of Florida (I believe he is Dr. Joe now, but am not sure = because he is as humble as his voice is beautiful). He will be teaching at a = college in Americus, GA. There are some very lucky Episcopalians up there!!   In addition we had a special "guest" in worship today. A musical street person joined us! He is also hard of hearing so his responses were very = loud and most times he wasn't with the rest of us. He also entertained us at communion by dancing and directing the choir on the last communion hymn. = He was dressed in dungarees and a plaid shirt and had long uncombed hair and = a full beard. He appeared to be in his 30s (but for some reason, most = people are starting to look young to me now!!). After worship, he came and = joined us at Joe's reception, socializing freely (albeit strangely) but not in a menacing way. He was very childlike and entertained the little ones while = we all ate. I was really proud of the way our parish responded to him. However, one very elderly lady was heard to say, "I wish those Methodists would stay in =   their own church." heeheehee     Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Hidden vs Exposed From: "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:43:56 -0400   > > Somehow, I gather there's a feeling that these "churches" are somehow > > compassionate, caring institutions. Usually, nothing is farther from the > > truth, with some noticeable exceptions to this rule. They're just another > > employer, out to get what they can and employ "at will", just like any > > other management "team" who is not bound by a labor contract. The = very > > fact that held a personal contract with them puts you way above the others > > in terms of working conditions. > >   OR the largest donor doesn't care for your style, personality or whatever....makes a comment to the pastor.... next thing you know you're out of a job. (from personal experience)    
(back) Subject: Re: Hidden vs Exposed From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:51:49   At 07:46 PM 7/30/2000 EDT, you wrote: >But when there was a big disagreement, he would say, >"Well, what would Jesus have done." This disarmed the aggressors, and = led to >many much better decisions.<snip>   A wise man, indeed. Too bad there are so few of them!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Buxtehude Chorale Preludes From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:37:31   House cleaning of dupes and no longer needed sheet music has started at the DesertDomecile, so I thought I'd offer these to boardmembers first, before trying to make a killing on eBay!   I have two extra copies of the C.F. Peters Edition of Buxtehude's chorale predules (this is Vol. II), edited by Hermann Keller. One is the earlier printing with the 1939 plates; cover is loose and taped, but is nice and clean and very serviceable. The other is the newest printing with the updated Peters cover, and is "music store fresh"...well, with a few scribblings! Make offer, and either one is yours.   Done to a turn at 106=B0 at 6:30 pm, DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Trying to Locate From: <SchultzRH@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:06:53 EDT   I am trying to locate Donald Rotermund. Was organist at Zion Ev. Lutheran Church, located on Lovers Lane, Dallas, TX . If you have information, = please contact me. Thank You   Ralph Schultz  
(back) Subject: today's wedding From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:51:49 -0400 (EDT)   Greetings friends.   I had the sheer pleasure <cough cough> of playing a Henry Pilcher organ from an Austin Console for a wedding in the hip town of Red Bank, New Jersey. This was a short-notice fill-in gig.   From whence did my pleasure cometh? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. They had included a hymn medley near the beginning of the ceremony. The first was the contemporary chorus "This Is the Day". The 2nd was the venerable wedding hymn "In the Garden". I kid you not.   Not knowing the couple or the congregation, I could only surmise that ITG holds special meaning for them, and so I played the hymn medley joyfully and triumphantly, complete with my patented interlude (grin grin) to get from crescendo pedal full organ to some semblance of softer. But, as this was a wedding, I decided to end ITG full and vibrant. That proved to be appropriate for THIS ceremony.   All in all, the wedding went well. After I was done with my postlude, the hovering sexton (who thought upon my arrival I knew nothing about organs :)) came to the console and exclaimed, "Not a bad little organ is it?". I did not answer.   It was hard to play though, with one hand on the manuals and the other holding my nose, but alas, we made it through.   Peace everyone. Have a great week in the Lord.   Neil    
(back) Subject: Was Retiring and !@%#* Churches From: "Jim" <Bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:16:00 -0500   Gee guys,   Are we going to get into church bashing now? It seems as if this group = has changed from one of discussion of organs, organists and organ music to = let's gripe about anything and everything.   I can see a certain amount of disagreement, because that is being human. But, it seems as if we are now going out of our way to find things wrong, that has nothing to do with the organ.   Jim H      
(back) Subject: Re: Was Retiring and !@%#* Churches From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:19:00   At 11:16 PM 7/30/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Are we going to get into church bashing now? It seems as if this group = has >changed from one of discussion of organs, organists and organ music to = let's >gripe about anything and everything.<snip>   Well, I DID try to stir some thought-provoking prattle about the Seattle "Frisky", but all I got was a "neener neener, I'm telling pipe-argh on you!", and that was that! Oh well....   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: church-bashing? (X-posted) From: <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:42:59 -0700   I don't think it's church-bashing to refer to a published AGO study concerning clergy/organist relations, and to further state which churches have the highest number of complaints/conflicts/whatever according to that study.   Nor is it church-bashing to recount some of the cautionary tales of the truly UNBELIEVABLE things that have happened to some of us (most of us?) in the course of our careers as church organists.   And here's yet another (grin): many years ago, the Sunday I was to leave on vacation, I played Alain's "Litanies" for the postlude ... I'd just played it on a recital program (in another church), and I wanted to go out with a bang. Well, in the middle of the piece, the organ died ... a priest came out of the sacristy, shook his fist at the organ loft, and shouted "that'll be enough of THAT!" He had TURNED OFF THE MOTOR! In the middle of my postlude!   No, I didn't resign on the spot ... I did THAT a few months later when the (Irish) curate said to me, "I ORDER you to start using folk music at the High Mass" ... THEN I resigned on the spot.   Cheers,   Bud