PipeChat Digest #1437 - Tuesday, June 6, 2000 RE: Needing advice by "John Vanderlee" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Fw: Suggestions, please . . . by "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> George by "Bob Scarborough" <firstname.lastname@example.org> St. Matthew's and St. Joeseph's, Detroit by <ScottFop@aol.com> George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton by "garyet" <email@example.com> Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton by "VEAGUE" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton by "Bob Scarborough" <email@example.com> Assistance needed for website by <KriderSM@aol.com> A wedding story by "Brent Johnson" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton by "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton by "Bob Scarborough" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Fw: Suggestions, please . . . by "Greg Corbett" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: RE: Needing advice From: "John Vanderlee" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 08:31:02 -0500 Hi Eric, We have a Schober stop rail and capture action kicking around that we'd love to part with. but that part is probably already in your kit. John V >> I just subscribed to this list today and I am hoping someone will be >> able to give me a little advice. A friend of mine at the church I play >> for offered me their partially completed Schober organ. It was >> apparently a "do it yourself kit" for an electronic organ. >> Unfortunately, the company went out of business before they >> could order >> the stops and I am not sure how complete the instrument is in other >> respects. I am not an expert in electronics and the instruction manual >> had me baffled on page 1. What I am wondering is if anyone knows of >> another company that makes parts that could work for this and how >> expensive would it be to get it working. I would really make >> use of this >> organ if at all possible. > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:email@example.com >Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Suggestions, please . . . From: "VEAGUE" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:04:25 -0500 Hey Bob- Re: Readers' Digest GW platters. I'll keep my eyes open even in Goodwill or Salvation Army for donated albums. Always on the look-out. Georges last few cd's on his Philharmonic organ DID lack the 'pa-zazz' and technique of his youthful days. Salon was completed a few weeks before his untimely parting. A lot of the 'Wright touch' was there, but unfortunately only a shadow of it. Still nice to hear Mr. Wright, tho. Rick
(back) Subject: George From: "Bob Scarborough" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:51:08 At 03:04 PM 6/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Georges last few cd's on his Philharmonic organ DID lack the 'pa-zazz' = and >technique of his youthful days. Salon was completed a few weeks before = his >untimely parting. > >A lot of the 'Wright touch' was there, but unfortunately only a shadow of >it.<snip> In his last days, GW was an incredibly bitter and anti-social man, = refusing phone calls from almost everyone, and being rude to those who did manage = to contact him. There was an inner circle of those he worked with and relied on, such as Trousdale and others. As Don Leslie said after again being hung up on (again), "George (who he also refers to as "Smokey the Bitch", ever since the disasterous Pasadena fire) is mad at everyone again...". His later recital appearance in the '80s, while good, were obviously self-absorbed, and while he was still genial with the audience, it was obvious that he wasn't "in tune" with them as he was in earlier = performances. Reasons? Failing health, the aging process (GW was QUITE vain, as you probably know), and all this showed in his last releases. George also lived in the shadow of the Leslie organ fire in Pasadena (and others), was always derided for his mercurial temper and strange personality, and pipes and parts were well known to "grow legs" whenever George was around. All of this is quite a shame, and an ironic end to a brilliant career. There's no doubt in my mind that GW's releases of the '50s, '60s and '70s set the standard for TO performance, and drew many new fans to the organ. His inventiveness in the recording process (i.e., multitracking, which started in Pasadena and continued right up to the end) were favorite "tricks" of his, and many of his recorded performances could never be duplicated live, as with most popular musicians. Still, as the Chicago sessions proved, GW could hold his own against all comers in a live recital, as I personally saw many times. His inventiveness didn't end = just with recording tricks, either. His arrangements and registrations were incomparable, and are probably the most imitated by popular organists to this day. It's a shame we're only left with the "Philharmonic Organ", however; Don Leslie's Pasadena studio organ could quite obviously run = rings around it. Its loss was a great one to the TO world. Keep an eye on eBay, using Personal Shopper to key on the words "george wright organ album LP". I've used eBay to "fill in the blanks" of my Wright collection of recordings, and now have near mint copies of almost all of the HIFIRecord/Richard Vaughn sessions, where George was in his absolute prime on the Simonton organ. DeserTBoB
(back) Subject: St. Matthew's and St. Joeseph's, Detroit From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:07:10 EDT In a message dated 6/4/00 11:07:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes: << The Flugelhorn sounds reasonable, but Skinner had a habit of putting Nazards on the Choir before a Piccolo. From whence cometh thine stoplisth?? = ;-) >> I don't know to whom this post was written, but MY stoplist comes from the = console itself, and the organist and Ken Holden, the curator there for = many years. The Vox is crated up and in the chamber ready to go back in when things get moved back around and you can see the Flugel Horn pipes in the Clarion slots. SF
(back) Subject: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton From: "garyet" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:37:18 -0700 > Keep an eye on eBay, using Personal Shopper to key on the words "george > wright organ album LP". I've used eBay to "fill in the blanks" of my > Wright collection of recordings, and now have near mint copies of almost > all of the HIFIRecord/Richard Vaughn sessions, where George was in his > absolute prime on the Simonton organ. I have always been confused as to the location of the organ used on those HiFi recordings. I was once in the downstairs theater of the Simonton = house and heard the organ. Was this the instrument & location used for those recordings? Is the Simonton house, theater, etc still there. Are the Simontons still around? Inquiring minds......... Gary Thiele
(back) Subject: Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton From: "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:58:41 -0500 In re: Simonton Wurli. I have an excellent recording of Jesse Crawford playing this instrument. "In a Monastary Garden" features what some may label 'Catholic' melodies. Crawfords playing is superb and his registrations make the Wurli sound great. Typical Crawford. Dummy me, I was not aware GW recorded on this instrument. In one of my Theatre Organ mags, is a picture of GW sitting at a .....Barton...! Rick
(back) Subject: Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton From: "Bob Scarborough" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 17:37:54 At 05:58 PM 6/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I have an excellent recording of Jesse Crawford playing this instrument. > >"In a Monastary Garden" features what some may label 'Catholic' melodies.<snip> Yup, on Decca, on which Crawford released probably more albums than did Wright on all of his labels. Crawford recorded on several Wurlitzers, = many times on Hammond consoles, and a few on the Hammond Chord Organ...multitracked, of course. The Simonton house, around this period, was a veritable parade of theater organists and recording equipment and engineers. >Dummy me, I was not aware GW recorded on this instrument. In one of my >Theatre Organ mags, is a picture of GW sitting at a .....Barton...!<snip> Rare, indeed. I'd heard through those close to George that, if he had his "druthers", he'd only play Wurlitzer organs. However, he was the consummate entertainer, and played and recorded on just about everything, including Hammonds and Conns, and did many a radio and television soap opera at the console of a B-type Hammond with trademark Leslie 30-A. He also did several "ghost" releases, so as not to violate contract restrictions. Two cuts of the "Pipe Organ Favorites" LP, produced in 1956 by D.L Miller on his Somerset label (forerunner to the ubiquitous "Stereo-Fidelity" label that appeared in 1958) were most definately George ("The Stars Came Out Over Alabama" and "American Patrol"...a Wright SF Fox staple during the war years), while the rest was by the mysterious = "Georges Montalba". "Montalba", it was found out later, was actually the notorious Anton LaVey, later founder of the Church of Satan in the 1960's. LaVey = was an "orchestral" organist of considerable, if quirky, talent. His TO records, when the connection to the Church of Satan is pointed out, fetch large sums of money. DeserTBoB
(back) Subject: Assistance needed for website From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:45:21 EDT Hi all, Several months ago someone posted a website that showed an animated view = of the various pipe organ components. I lost the site address. Can anyone provide it for me? Stan Krider
(back) Subject: A wedding story From: "Brent Johnson" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:08:18 -0500 I have been reading through 6 days of list message because you see, I was attending a wedding in Dallas. I was not playing this time, I was a groomsman for my two of my best = friends from college The wedding was about 20 minutes long, with music by the bride's brother, Sean Vogt from Cedar Rapids, IA, and a friend of the brother, Aaron Media of Dallas, TX, both friends of mine, and both incredible organists. To stay on topic, I will tell you of the music I heard. This wedding was = at Preston Hollow Methodist Church, home to a 1976 Schudi organ. I don't = have the spec, but it was a two manual organ that filled the small church beautifully. Among the prelude music was the Fugue from the Prelude and Fugue in D = major (BWV 532). The costume party entered to Andante by John Stanley, and the Bride came in to Marc-Antoine Charpentier's Te Deum. It was a welcome change. The recessional was Mendelssohn's Wedding March, played by Mr. Medina. After the wedding an entertaining reception happened, and the newlyweds = were off on their way to Grand Cayman Islands in a wonderfully (if I do say so myself) car. I posted this information because I just finished reading some of the many posts regarding wedding horror stories and difficulties, and I just wanted to remind everyone that sometimes beautiful, perfect weddings happen and = two people who belong together occasionally find each other. I won't mention much about the brief time of panic when 2 hours before pictures, this groomsman discovered he was 700 miles from home without his tuxedo pants, but then again, things do occasionally work out.... Almost like someone's watching out for us... Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com firstname.lastname@example.org 310 members can't all be wrong.
(back) Subject: Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton From: "VEAGUE" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:33:07 -0500 Georges Montalba aka Anton LeVey?? Damn!! Whoda thunk it!! I have one of his albums too! Nice playing, incidently. Better get out my cross! GW also went under Guy Melendy (ghost contracting). Re: Simonton Wurli. -I heard the instrument was dismantled. Buddy Coles Wurli/Morton in an underground room in his back yard- His wife got rid of that instrument after he died. Rick
(back) Subject: Re: George,Richard Vaughn,&Simonton From: "Bob Scarborough" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:17:54 At 10:33 PM 6/5/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Buddy Coles Wurli/Morton in an underground room in his back yard- His = wife >got rid of that instrument after he died.<snip> Buddy's "WurliMorton" was quite an instrument, and his "organ studio" was in reality a pretty complete recording studio. I have a 1947 release of Buddy, back before any sort of artificial reverb, when the organ was still an unaltered Morton out of the Beverly Theater in Beverly Hills...unique Morton sound, but not as unique as what Buddy later came up with after adding the Wurli ranks. Buddy was a uniquely skilled musician, indeed, at home equally on the theater organ, the Hammond, and, most certainly, the piano. Not only = that, he was a genuinely nice guy, rare in the organ crowd. A bad ticker did = him in by 1964. His Columbia albums, in particular, command top dollar. DeserTBoB
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Suggestions, please . . . From: "Greg Corbett" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:05:01 -0700 I find it funny you should mention the goodwill shops, I have a standing order at ours, got Gus Farney, 3 Reader Digest sets, one theatre, one e-org, and the final is Hammond. I still have a record player, and really enjoy listening to the vinyls.