PipeChat Digest #1452 - Monday, June 12, 2000
 
weird pistons
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Britson Kits
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
RE: Delaware Pistons
  by "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Our Skinner project (long)
  by "Rick Sweeney" <rts@magrathea.com>
Re: Delaware Pistons (where, oh where, did they hide the d*** setterboard
  by "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu>
Re: Organ tuned to Kellner - Bruce Heaven!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Pipe Organ on a passenger Ship
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Organist search--xpost
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner
  by "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au>
Re: Fw: running out of air
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Our Skinner project (long)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Organ tuned to Kellner - Bruce Heaven! (Ron Severin)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: reed organs
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: pitch sagging
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
French Harmonium Registrations
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: pitch sagging
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
 


(back) Subject: weird pistons From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:11:37 -0700   The Harrison system sounds like a remote German "frei combination" system, the difference being that on a German organ, the diminutive drawknobs or switches are above the stops ... the advantage there being that you can = reset them while you're playing, as long as the free combination you're = resetting isn't engaged. I can't imagine that it's still being built, what with = solid state and 100 memories and all.   Holtkamp, never one to waste money on console luxuries, quite often built setterboards for non-university organs ... they were usually behind = cupboard doors on the front of the organ-case, but WHEREVER they were, you had to = get off the bench to reset them. Oddly enough, his early organs had normal = remote capture systems. The one at St. James on 55th Street in Cleveland is over sixty years old, and as far as I know it still functions perfectly.   Woolsey Hall has a whole room full of remote capture machines ... I'm sure they've been rebuilt, but they're very quiet and efficient.   Cheers,   Bud   "John L. Speller" wrote:   > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > > Look for a setter-board somewhere, either on the console or back in = the > > organ. They're an unmitigated nuisance, but they saved lots of money = on > > combination actions. > > I used to play a Harrison & Harrison organ in England that had setter > boards in little glass cases next to the console which were miniature > drawknobs and really rather cute. Although this system is, as everyone > else has mentioned, an almost unmitigated nuisance, the Harrison system > had one advantage. This was that there were three positions for the > little knobs -- on, off, and neutral. In the neutral position the stop > stayed on if already on, or stayed off if already off, so this gave the > system possibilities that most combination actions don't have. > > On another note, unlike normal pistons which only contact momentarily, > the setters in drawers stay contacted as long as you continue to press > the piston. I came across one organ in Pennsylvania where a screw had > come out on a toe stud, keeping the toe stud permanently on. The organ > had drawknobs in plastic sheaths, and they all cooked and melted! Yet > another hazard ... > > John Speller > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Britson Kits From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:50:10 -0700   Yesterday I posted something about the Britson D105 being offered as an add-on module for pipe organs. I have since found out from the company = that it was a limited time offering, and will not be available.   Sorry for any inconvenince my original post may have caused.    
(back) Subject: RE: Delaware Pistons From: "Charles E. Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:46:31 -0000   Then there was the day I pressed a piston and two drawknobs flew out at me like launched projectiles!!!!!!   Charles E. Brown http://www.classicalcorner.com          
(back) Subject: Our Skinner project (long) From: "Rick Sweeney" <rts@magrathea.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:17:14 -0400   Thanks to all who responded to my request for opinions and thoughts on = your own experience with an organ renovation/restoration/replacement project. There were a few comments and questions that were posted, and some = requests for more info. They can best be addressed in one post rather than individual posts. My apologies for the length of this message.   As Bruce said: > Please keep us informed. It would be very > interesting to many of us if you > could publish the present specifications.   The stoplist and it's evolution are at the end of this message, compiled = and commented on by Dana Sawyer, a member of our committee. It's all over my head, but sounds interesting. We are still lacking some information, but Dana has put together as much as possible.   As Jerry wrote: > I just have a question or two about your > situation: how big is the church (approx.) > and what is the climate conditions of the area > and the interior? I assume that coastal Mass. > is quite damp. Is that why the laminate > peeled? Is is possible to de-humidify the > organ space? Are there damaged electrical > contacts as a result of the dampness?   The nave is small, and seats about 150-175 (best guess). We are about 1 block from the ocean, so it can be quite damp. The organ chamber is un insulated with no separate heat/cooling or humidity control, so the organ needs tuning quite often. Also, the blower is in the basement, so the air that goes into the pipes is usually cooler than the air in the chamber. = Part of our plan includes properly insulating the chamber, and trying to = control the temperature. Also, the air here most likely has something to do with the console electrical problems. The console laminate is cheap, that's = the problem with peeling. Dehumidifying might be tough, but it is on the list = of things we plan to ask builders we call in.   As Rebekah wrote: > What? Worth preserving? A Skinner -wouldn't- > be worth preserving? Just out of curiosity, > what did Barbara say about that?   > What local builders are doing estimates? I > would assume Fisk since they're right in > your neck of the woods, Andover maybe?   Preserving it is our first foray into getting estimates. We also will be looking at the cost of new and used instruments. Barbara listed restoring it as an option, but questioned whether it should be rebuilt due to the cost. She felt that a used instrument of good quality might be less expensive. That's what *I* got from her report, others may interpret it differently. Our goal is to present all options and their cost to the congregation, with recommendations.   As for builders, we have talked to Dick Lahaise, and have appointments to talk to Don Olson of Andover and Joe Rottella. We also have plans to contact and talk to the Austin Company. Dick Lahaise recommended we talk = to Nelson Benton. This is just the beginning for us, I'm sure we'll talk to lots more people.   As Larry Bunce said in a message that went right over my head: > Is this thread still anywhere near the > original advice for an organ project?   Sort of, but keep the info flowing, it is very helpful. I've been = following the other posts (BIG Allens, How much air, Congregational singing, etc) = and found them all very educational and sometimes amusing. I've also searched the archives at PIPEORG-L for "Skinner" and spent hours reading up on people's views. I'm overwhelmed by the resources available on this topic.     There were also some comments on acoustics in the church. I must say that the acoustics for speaking (preaching) are excellent. It drops off toward the rear, past the original end of the nave. It was lengthened in the 1930s. We have a series of concerts (mostly jazz bands from Berklee) and = the performers are normally situated in front of the chancel. Everyone = comments on how wonderful the acoustics are. The problem with the organ is that it doesn't project into the nave, it bounces off the opposite chancel wall!   Another item of interest is that the AGO committee recommended a lot of changes to the chancel area. These ranged from replastering over the original walls, to simply removing a black cloth behind the facade. We removed this cloth, and a mirror positioned on the facade for the organist to see the choir. We are asking the vestry next week to consider removing all of the carpeting (it's padded) from the chancel and sanctuary, as well as choir pew cushions. We have our fingers crossed that they will agree. = We do have an edge, 2 members of our committee are on the vestry! = Replastering is out of the question, though. Any changes we make have to be "architecturally correct", as you might expect.   We also need to decide on placement of the organ, due to acoustical problems. This was Barbara Owen's big point. However, this may be a tough sell in this congregation. The rector (who arrived 3 years ago) just recently convinced people that it is time to pull the altar out from the wall, so she can celebrate the Eucharist while facing the congregation. That was an extremely emotional issue, as I expect any changes to the = organ will be.   Thanks again for all your responses, I have forwarded every one of them to the committee either in e-mail or in print. Our next meeting should be an interesting one!   Regards,   -Rick (rts@magrathea.com) (Church of the Holy Name: www.ultranet.com/~chn)     --------------------------------------------------------- This is the current stop list. It is best read with a fixed space font. At the end are some comments from Dana, who is familiar with what this all means. It was he who supplied me the list. The list follows the = instrument from it's original specs in 1922, through some changes made before 1973, = and the current instrument which was last changed in 1974. If the list = doesn't format properly, and you would like a better copy, email me and I can send it as an attachment. ---------------------------------------------------------     Church of the Holy Name Skinner Organ Company Opus #368 (contract signed 1922)   Original Through 1973 From 1974 --------------------------------------------------------- GREAT - 61 pipes   8' Diapason 8' Diapason --deleted-- 8' Principal*^ 8' Clarabella 8' Clarabella& --deleted-- 8' Erzahler 8' Erzahler --deleted-- 4' Harmonic Flute --deleted-- 4' Octave@ (to 8' Principal) 4' Octave (new) 2' Waldflote (new) III Mixture (new) Chimes (in swell) Chimes (in swell)   SWELL - 73   8' Diapason --deleted-- 8' Gedeckt 8' Gedeckt 8' Gedeckt* 8' Gemshorn (new) 8' Salicional 8' Salicional 8' Salicional 8' Vox Celeste 8' Vox Celeste 8' Vox Celeste 8' Aoline 8' Aoline --deleted-- 4' Rohrflote (new) 4' Flute - 61 (to 2' Piccolo) 2 2/3' Nazard^ 2 2/3' Nazard 2' Piccolo - 61 (to 2 2/3' Nazard) 2' Piccolo^ 2' Piccolo 8' Flugel Horn 8' Flugel Horn 8' Flugel Horn 8' Cornopean 8' Cornopean 8' Cornopean* Tremolo Tremolo Tremolo   CHOIR - 61   8' Gedeckt (swell) 8' Gedeckt (swell) 8' Gedeckt* (swell) 8' Aoline (swell) 8' Aoline (swell) --deleted-- 4' Flute (swell) 4' Flute (swell) --deleted-- 4' Rohrflote (swell) 2' Piccolo (swell) 8' Clarinet (to 4' Clarinet) 4' Clarinet^ 4' Clarinet   PEDAL   32' Resultant- --deleted-- 16' Bourdon - 32 16' Bourdon - 32 16' Bourdon - 32 16' Echo Lieblich+ 16' Echo Lieblich+ --deleted-- 8' Still Gedeckt+ 8' Still Gedeckt+ --deleted-- 8' Diapason 4' Choralbass [5 1/3'] Quint   +unit gedeckt &partially replaced *re-voiced @added 19th c pipes ^transposed -no pipes     I think the list is fairly accurate, but there are still a few mysteries about the pedal division. From stoplists of other Skinner organs, it appears that the 16' Echo Lieblich and the 8' Still Gedeckt were = invariably borrowed from the Swell Gedeckt. For example, the Christ Church Cranbook instrument featured on www.mander-organs.com is still configured that way after the extensive reconstruction by Mander, though the 16' stop is = called Echo Bourdon rather than Echo Lieblich. If the lowest octave of pipes in the Swell Gedeckt still exists on our instrument (I'll have to check), = then it would be fairly simple to re-activate the two missing Pedal stops. = They could be used to advantage when playing quiet accompaniments on the Swell = or Choir.   Two more mysteries concern the 32' Resultant. One is that it still = exists, at least in part, though there is no engraving on the corresponding stop tablet. It actually works to fairly good effect with a "full organ" registration. The other mystery is whether it may actually have been part of the original specification, since Skinner provided Resultants on some = of his organs during this period. I'm inclined to think it has been there = all along.   Overall, I think the original configuration in the stoplist is fairly accurate, since it is quite similar to several other Skinner stoplists = I've seen from the 1920's.    
(back) Subject: Re: Delaware Pistons (where, oh where, did they hide the d*** setterboard?!) From: "Rebekah Ingram" <rringram@syr.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:04:32 -0400     ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Delaware Pistons (where, oh where, did they hide the d*** setterboard?!)   I like the new subject line. It's very accurate.   > It is entirely > concievable that the setterboard might be located under the console top, or > within the organ itself somewhere (although much more inconvenient...).   Aaaarrgghh...y'know, they're only in Buffalo...maybe I should just -call- them!   > I've even seen an organ where the setterboard was located in a little > locked box on the wall of the sacristy, in the *next room* from the console > and organ!! (why in the world would any self-respecting builder do = *that* > to a potential organist???!)   That's what I ask every time I -play- the organ. LOL.   > One thing that's for sure -- any "remotely-located" setterboard has to = be > connected to the organ wiring with some sort of cable. If you find no > evidence of anything at or within the console itself, or within the > "tuner's access way" into the organ chamber/case, try to look for any organ > cables/conduits that leave the console and do *not* seem to lead = directly > into the organ chamber/case. Perhaps you might find a "hidden setterboard" > at the end of them.....even if it might be in the sacristy!   That actually -is- very possible as the sacristy is about 5 feet away from the console. Unfortunately the only obvious cable right now is the one = that leads from the fan to the electrical outlet.   Who's bright idea were these things anyway?!?!!?   > Again -- good luck in your search!! Do let us all know what you ultimately > discover!!   Doug Campbell (in Skaneatles, right down the road) has offered to help me hunt. We'll let you all know the outcome.   <Groan> Is it really Sunday, what happened to my weekend? I don't wanna go to work....   -Rebekah      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ tuned to Kellner - Bruce Heaven! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:43:48 EDT   Chestnut Hill Pres. is a beautiful spec. I'm sure it sounds equally loverly. Too bad it isn't closer to Boston!!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ on a passenger Ship From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:48:03 EDT   In a message dated 6/11/00 3:21:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:   > Thanks! Are yew and the pups wearing red? I'm wearing red, but the dawgs are doing the "tongue" thing!!! hehehe   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:59:49 EDT   In a message dated 6/11/00 7:19:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   > History says otherwise, as does the history of the art of music written > after that time. If history says that, it's WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, = WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooNG! Back advocated WELL-TEMPERMENT!   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Organist search--xpost From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:20:42 EDT   For anyone interested, First Presbyterian Church, Ocala FL is looking for = an organist and children choir director. Salary is $13K. I met the choir =   director today at our AGO members recital. She is very nice and was quite =   fun to be around. Ocala is about 50miles south of Gainesville, is horse country, and also is the home of Silver Springs in case you know how to = drive a glass bottomed boat! ;-)     Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner From: "Bob Elms" <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:21:54 +0800   Bruce, ..... you mean, it's WRONG? Bob E.   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 6/11/00 7:19:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > desertbob@rglobal.net writes: > > > History says otherwise, as does the history of the art of music = written > > after that time. > If history says that, it's WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, = WRONG, > WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, > WRoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooNG! > Back advocated WELL-TEMPERMENT! > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: running out of air From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:38:23 EDT   Dear Rick,   With exercise like that who needs a Gym?   RON  
(back) Subject: Re: Our Skinner project (long) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:49:01   At 10:17 PM 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote: >The stoplist and it's evolution are at the end of this message, compiled= and >commented on by Dana Sawyer, a member of our committee. It's all over my >head, but sounds interesting. We are still lacking some information, but >Dana has put together as much as possible.<snip>   Actually, the new specification is more "useful" than the old, that's for sure. The proponderance of "syrup" of Skinner's early '20s work is quite evident here. Coupled with a "Hope-Jones" style "tomb" chamber, I can see exactly why the substitutions were made. What's at question is whether the quality of the new ranks is good or not.   It's a shame to see so many Skinner "trademark" stops bite the dust (especially the Erz=E4ler, Harmonic Flute, Clarabella and =C6oline, but thes= e stops are of questionable value on such a small organ. What happened here is typical of the '60s, when many people were trying to "fix" the tonal aberrations of the past anyway they could, usually with less than satisfactory results. So, the organ went from a so-so Skinner to a vertical-chorused "whatever". One could only hope those yummy Skinner ranks found there way into another, larger organ, where they could be heard to advantage   >As Rebekah wrote: >> What? Worth preserving? A Skinner -wouldn't- >> be worth preserving? Just out of curiosity, >> what did Barbara say about that?<snip>   Not much Skinner left here, boy howdy! The loss of the handsome Skinner console, only to be replaced by a supply house catalog item is a shame.   >As for builders, we have talked to Dick Lahaise, and have appointments to >talk to Don Olson of Andover and Joe Rottella. We also have plans to >contact and talk to the Austin Company. Dick Lahaise recommended we talk= to >Nelson Benton. This is just the beginning for us, I'm sure we'll talk to >lots more people.<snip>   The fact that you're getting information from such vaunted sources is quite heartening, I'm sure to all of us! Good work! These are all people of fine credentials.   >We are asking the vestry next week to consider removing >all of the carpeting (it's padded) from the chancel and sanctuary, as well >as choir pew cushions. We have our fingers crossed that they will agree.<snip>   Good luck there! So many decent acoustical environments have been ruined with such fluff. However, when those who come in once a week for a comfy rest find out all their "creature comforts" are gone, gird for a pitched battle!   >We also need to decide on placement of the organ, due to acoustical >problems. This was Barbara Owen's big point. However, this may be a tough >sell in this congregation. The rector (who arrived 3 years ago) just >recently convinced people that it is time to pull the altar out from the >wall, so she can celebrate the Eucharist while facing the congregation. >That was an extremely emotional issue, as I expect any changes to the organ >will be.<snip>   I remember the "great altar wars" in the RC church in '65 or so...one diocese had 'em all turned around in a week; Los Angeles, ever the hotbed of RC conservatism, refused for years, and then would only do it with new buildings or major remodeling. People get really upset about "stuff"! Organ "stuff"'s no different.   To me, (and shooting from the hip, since I haven't heard it), the "tomb" is your biggest impediment. You might even be able to take the existing organ out of that box and put it into a more suitable acoustic placement and have a pretty decent organ as-is...who knows? The small size of the building's going to be your biggest headache there. Barbara is quite right, I feel, and if she says so, I'd believe it.   Continued good luck, from all of us, I'm sure!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:54:14   At 11:59 PM 6/11/2000 EDT, you wrote: >If history says that, it's WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, = WRONG, >WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, >WRoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooNG! >Back advocated WELL-TEMPERMENT!<snip>   Alright, already! It's a semantics issue among musicologists; has been = for years. But....how "well" is well? Well done? Half baked? Enquiring minds wanna know!   hehehehe!   dB  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ tuned to Dr. Kellner From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:01:06   At 12:21 PM 6/12/2000 +0800, you wrote: >Bruce, ..... you mean, it's WRONG?<snip>   I THINK that's what he meant...I'm not sure. Could be we a = clarification??   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ tuned to Kellner - Bruce Heaven! (Ron Severin) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:40:34 EDT   Dear Malcolm:   Let's start an anti Equal Temperment movement, as there is absolutely = nothing musical in supporting ET. Kellner does not interfere with the normal = resonance of the pipes like ET does. To hear an organ in Kellner is a cleansing, silvery, and beautiful experience. I can't recommend it enough.   Once you've experienced the beauty of Kellner you never will or want to go =   back to something awful like ET! It plays modern music with equal cham, hymns = are to die for gorgeous. My congregation loved the new sound, so I've created = a good monster.   Choral Music sung accapella is not in equal temperment hopefully. Maybe = people will stop writing in totally absurd keys too. It's not necessary. When I = find something in 5 flats it goes to two sharps, 6 flats it goes to one sharp, 5 sharps = goes to 2 flats. It works for me! Oh! 7 flats my favorite goes to no accidentals at all. = I'm bad, real bad! I just work it out beforehand. I think it is worth the trouble to = defeat this nonsense.   Sincerely,   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: reed organs From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:58:49 EDT   Dear Tommie Lee:   The numbers on the knobs refer to registrations used in French Harmonium music. See Franck's L'Organiste 59 pieces Leon Boellmann had some Calmus ed. etc.   That's what the 1-2-3-4-5 mean.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: pitch sagging From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:01:43 EDT   Dear Carlo:   Now the truth comes out, those organs were cheap! They probably used a = liberal amount of flexhaust which causes unsteady wind and cavitiations and tremulations.   Ron  
(back) Subject: French Harmonium Registrations From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:11:42 -0400   (1) left---cor anglais 8 (2) left---bourdon 16 (3) left---clairon 4 (4) left---basson 8   (1) right---flute 8 (2) right---clarinette 16 (3) right---fifre 4 (4) right---hautbois 8   The stop-knob (G) (grand jeu) drew the stops 1, 2, 3, 4 (both bass and treble) simultaneously.   The stop-knob (E) (expression) cut off the bellows of the harmonium; by means of the two treadles the player was then able to control the dynamics directly (without the stabilising intervention of the bellows).   The two stops (0) indicate the Forte expressif.   The indication (C) indicates the treble stop voix c=E9leste 16; the usual sign for this is (VC) or (6).  
(back) Subject: Re: pitch sagging From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:12:59 -0400   if that's the case, then why are there no pitch fluctuations on the = GREAT's of these organs??? BTW, they are very cheaply built.   Carlo