PipeChat Digest #1465 - Saturday, June 17, 2000
 
Installing a Rector (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Dr. Laura and the Organist
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: That reminds me of a story ...
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Dr. Laura and the Organist
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
ADMIN POSTING:  PLEASE READ -- RE: DR. LAURA
  by "Dr. Peter Pocock" <admin@pipechat.org>
Metropolitan Community Church
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: That reminds me of a story ...
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
organ at MCC/San Diego
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: GDH Marital information-was organ removal from Vassar college?
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Installing a Rector (X-posted)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Installing a Rector (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:38:28 -0700   Sorry, Senior Moment ... someone wanted an anthem for installing a Rector. The following just came in with a stack of old octavos that I inherited:   We Sent Unto Thee - Alfred Hollins (Novello, 1907) (grin)   We sent unto thee, and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded of thee of God. Blessed is he that cometh in the Name of the Lord. We have blessed you out of the house of the Lord. O give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good, for his mercy endureth for ever. Amen.   Looks like fun ... text from Acts and the Psalms. Be happy to supply a copy to whoever needs/wants it.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Laura and the Organist From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:04:02 -0400   > > Nah...I don't wanna UPSET anyone in here.... >   Aw heck, Bob, you might be surprised to find that some of us agree with = you on this topic.   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: That reminds me of a story ... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:04:02 EDT   Although I've never attended an MCC service, it has always been described = to me as very evangelical. This is what is surprising to me; I would have expected something more elegant, subdued and liturgical. What music was done by the choir that was "gorgeous"?   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Dr. Laura and the Organist From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:16:14 EDT   In a message dated 6/16/00 11:03:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tommylee@whitlock.org writes:   > Aw heck, Bob, you might be surprised to find that some of us agree with = you > on > this topic. Sorry! Agreeing with Bob is a breech of list netiquette...   BBBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: ADMIN POSTING: PLEASE READ -- RE: DR. LAURA From: "Dr. Peter Pocock" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:13:01 -0700   Hi everyone,   The Dr. Laura thread is totally inappropriate for discussion on PipeChat. Please move on to another thread immediately.   While I am posting this admin note to the list, and to give David a break, =   I have noticed recently a tendency to be heading off topic very easily, or =   using the slightest excuse to head off topic. Please read the list guidelines at www.pipechat.org and re-acquaint yourselves with our rules and regulations.   Thanks for your participation in PipeChat   Pete!   Peter G. Pocock PipeChat Co-Owner and Administrator    
(back) Subject: Metropolitan Community Church From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:36:54 -0700   MCC is a congregationally-governed denomination ... it depends on the = parish. They range from "high-church Presbyterian" to "git-down" Gospel to = charismatic to "low-church Episcopal".   Troy very wisely made Holy Communion the normative service, since at the = time there was no organization for Roman Catholics, who make up about 50% of = MCC's membership today; there still isn't; Dignity, the organization for Roman Catholics of "that" minority, is under interdict from Rome ... priests are forbidden to say Mass for them, or allow Dignity services in Roman = Catholic churches.   "Evangelical" doesn't BEGIN to cover it ... there is something very = special about the way MCC worships. There's an element of the Catacombs, almost; = and the fierce, joyful bravery of the early Martyrs. Just like the early Church, = MCC was born in fire and blood ... churches were burned, members were beaten, = several ministers were murdered.   In San Diego, we ran the gauntlet of screaming fundy pickets for over a = year until Congress passed a law forbidden interfering with a religious = service, as a direct result of those events; our church was trashed several times ... = windows broken out, fire extinguishers set off, offices trashed, equipment smashed = or stolen, etc.   I was organist of MCC/SD for more than twenty years, since the main = service was in the evening, a holdover from when they didn't have their own church and = had to borrow somebody else's on Sunday nights.   I was comfortable moving back and forth between High Mass on Sunday = morning and MCC on Sunday night. Their liturgical language and gestures weren't those = of my tradition, but in San Diego at least, the Communion was the climax of the service, not the sermon, and it was VERY reverently done.   Cheers,   Bud           Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > Although I've never attended an MCC service, it has always been = described to > me as very evangelical. This is what is surprising to me; I would have > expected something more elegant, subdued and liturgical. What music = was > done by the choir that was "gorgeous"? > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: That reminds me of a story ... From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:43:25 -0400   Going back to a suitable topic for the list, what kind of organ did you have at the MCC congregation?   At 05:42 PM 6/16/00 -0700, Bud wrote: >The Unversal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches (founded by >The Rev'd Elder Troy Perry in Los Angeles in the late '60s to minister >to THAT minority) is a perennial applicant for membership in the >National Council of Churches ... periodically they get blocked by the >Greek Orthodox, who vow to walk out if "those" people are allowed in >(ain't "christians" grand?). > >Well, anyway, the National Council was meeting in San Francisco to >consider MCC's application one year, and Troy invited them all to Sunday >service at Glide Memorial, where MCC/SF was meeting at the time. > >It was the "usual" MCC festal service, with a huge choir, carrying-on >evangelical organ and piano-playing, flowers everywhere, gorgeous >vestments, etc. etc. etc. and, of course, Troy in full cry in the pulpit >for at least an hour. > >Comes time for Communion, and Troy gives his usual "y'all come, this is >GOD'S Table" invitation. The startled delegates to the National Council >found themselves receiving Communion together FOR THE FIRST TIME IN >HISTORY! > >Afterwards, of course, they said what EVERYBODY always says about an MCC >service: "It wasn't what we EXPECTED." > >Now, nobody in the history of MCC has ever gotten anybody to say what it >was that expected (grin). They went on to talk about the gorgeous music, >vestments, flowers, enthusiastic congregational singing. > >Troy looked 'em straight in the eye and said, "Well, who do you think >has been DOING your music and your flowers and your vestments all these >years??!!" > >You haven't HEARD singing till you've heard a full MCC church cut loose >on "It Is Well With My Soul" ... when the fundies were demonstrating in >front of MCC/SD, we'd open the back doors and I'd throw on the >Trompette-en-chamade with the subs and supers and the congregation would >turn around and sing the last verse to the fundies ... you could hear us >downtown, at LEAST. > >Dr. Laura hasn't a CLUE what the original Greek and Hebrew Scriptures >say ... I'd recommend some good books, but I'm sure she wouldn't read >them. > >Cheers, > >Bud > >(closets are for surplices) (grin) > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: organ at MCC/San Diego From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:00:11 -0700       Evelyn Rowe wrote:   > Going back to a suitable topic for the list, what kind of organ did you > have at the MCC congregation? >   A large two-manual analog Rodgers that I gave them 25 years ago in memory = of my mother. It had a custom Trompette-en-chamade and 32' Bourdon, and more speakers than the law ALLOWED (grin) ... a full battery in the organ-loft, and another in the sanctuary up front. The church was an old Foursquare Gospel church, with hardwood floors, plaster walls, and a high, beamed ceiling. The acoustics were WONDERFUL.   They still have the Rodgers, but, like most MCCs, they also have a B-3 and = a Leslie down front for gospel music.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: GDH Marital information-was organ removal from Vassar college? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:08:42 EDT   Roc:   Thanks for the clarification!   Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: Installing a Rector (X-posted) From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:36:57   At 07:38 PM 6/16/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Sorry, Senior Moment ... someone wanted an anthem for installing a >Rector.<snip>   Installation's a snap...a few Molly bolts and some paint...he's in there!   Seriously...how 'bout "War March Of The Priests"? Seems appropriate for a lot of them...   DeserTBoB