PipeChat Digest #1470 - Monday, June 19, 2000
 
Re: Need help with an e-organ problem
  by "Hugo Agius Muscat" <hugoam@maltanet.net>
Fire in Worcester
  by "willh" <willh@cfl.rr.com>
Pipechat IRC.  Tonight's the night!
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Aeolian - Skinner  Trackers
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Aeolian - Skinner  Trackers
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
Re: NATL SHRINE KILGEN REDEDICATION (x post)
  by "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net>
Left, Right
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Need help with an e-organ problem
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
RE: Left, Right
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Left, Right
  by <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Need help with an e-organ problem
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
My Love is like a Red Red Rose
  by "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net>
Re: Left, Right
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Left, Right
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Dizzy Hall
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com>
Re: Left, Right
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Need help with an e-organ problem
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Need help with an e-organ problem From: "Hugo Agius Muscat" <hugoam@maltanet.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:54:43 +0200   ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Darryl Miller <organdok@safari.net> To: <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Cc: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 2:15 AM Subject: Need help with an e-organ problem     > Hi, Y'all! > > I know this is not the e-list and I don't subscribe to it, but I do know > there quite a few of you who own them and play them, so I'm coming to = you > to ask for a solution to a wee bit of a problem. > > I've just purchased an smallish self-contained electronic organ for our > home. It was either buying a new car or buying a new organ, so guess = what? > Uh, huh, you guess it! :) > > Anyway, when I turned the organ on yesterday morning to practice a bit, > coming through the speakers I heard the news from our radio station = which > is on the tower of the Church which is right behind our house. Guess = what? > I don't wanna hear the news when I practice. What to do? > > Help!!!!!!!!! > > Thanks. > > Yours, > > Darryl by the Sea     Hi Dr Miller,   Your mail brings back memories of when, at Sixth Form (that's age 17 = here), I was playing an electronic organ at Mass in College, and Radio Malta came through loud and clear with some not-so-solemn music. The priest was not amused and he didn't believe it wasn't a prank. The physics teacher explained (to me, not the priest) that the electronics in the stand-alone amplifier were working as a medium-wave radio tuner and that the wire between the organ and the amplifier was oriented in such a way that it was working as an aerial. Try fiddling with the wires- hope this information helps!   Hugo from Malta   (Dr Hugo Agius-Muscat St Paul's Anglican Pro-Cathedral Valletta)    
(back) Subject: Fire in Worcester From: "willh" <willh@cfl.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:57:31 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001F_01BFD9D4.C8AF77A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   >The First Unitarian-Universalist Church, Main St., at Lincoln Square, >Worcester suffered a 4 alarm fire Saturday afternoon. In the morning >newspaper, the organ was described by the minister as having received >"heavy water damage" and appeared "lost" despite firefighters efforts =3D to >save it by putting a tarpaulin over it. The organ is >Aeolian-Skinner 1965 Opus 1433, 4M. 57R., 70 Stops, and 3460 pipes. It = =3D is >exposed in open tower space above the rear gallery. . >Judy Ollikkala       I was sorry to hear about this. It was about a year ago that = =3D I heard this organ played in two workshops given by Thomas Murray and =3D Joyce Jones during the AGO Region I convention. It was a typical 60's =3D A-S but it was a nice organ. I am glad that the building made it intact = =3D at least. =3D20   Will Scarboro     ------=3D_NextPart_000_001F_01BFD9D4.C8AF77A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2722.2800" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&gt;The First Unitarian-Universalist = =3D Church, Main=3D20 St., at Lincoln Square,<BR>&gt;Worcester suffered a 4 alarm fire =3D Saturday=3D20 afternoon. In the morning<BR>&gt;newspaper, the organ was described by =3D the=3D20 minister as having received<BR>&gt;"heavy water damage" and appeared =3D "lost"=3D20 despite firefighters efforts to<BR>&gt;save it by putting a tarpaulin =3D over=3D20 it.&nbsp; The organ is<BR>&gt;Aeolian-Skinner 1965 Opus 1433, 4M. 57R., = =3D 70=3D20 Stops, and 3460 pipes. It is<BR>&gt;exposed in open tower space above =3D the rear=3D20 gallery. .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&gt;Judy = Ollikkala<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was sorry to hear about this. It was about a year =3D ago that=3D20 I heard this organ played in two workshops given by Thomas Murray and =3D Joyce=3D20 Jones during the AGO Region I convention. It was a typical 60's A-S but = =3D it was a=3D20 nice organ. I am glad that the building made it intact at=3D20 least.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D Will=3D20 Scarboro</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001F_01BFD9D4.C8AF77A0--    
(back) Subject: Pipechat IRC. Tonight's the night! From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:11:59 -0400   To all PipeChatters,   I hope that more and more of our PipeChat-L members will join us this evening for our bi-weekly Internet Relay Chat, (IRC). These chats are = held on Monday and Friday evenings beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time. For help in how to get on, go to the PipeChat-L web page at:   http://www.pipechat.org/   Where you will find instructions on how to log on. It isn't complicated, and it is free!   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian - Skinner Trackers From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:38:22 -0700   Mesquite Methodist and Transfiguration, Dallas were twins ... there might = have been one change in the Brustwerk ... I don't recall now. They ran = something like this:   GREAT   8' Rohrfloete 4' Principal 2' Flachfloete Mixture Reed (?)   BRUSTWERK   8' Oak Quintadena (that may have been the change in the Transfiguration = organ ... it might have been something else) 4' Flute 2' Principal Sesquialtera Mixture (?)   PEDAL   16' Bourdon 8' Octave 4' Choral Bass Mixture (?) 16' Fagot   Tracker action, attached AGO keydesk, mechanical stop action; I don't = remember if there was a tremulant or not.   Transfiguration's organ was an interim situation ... it was intended for a = chapel, but placed in the main church until they could build the big organ. As a = result, it was voiced rather fiercely ... Transfiguration is a large church ... I = suppose they intended to re-voice it if it ever gets moved to a smaller room.   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 6/18/00 6:57:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > david@blackiris.com writes: > > > Other A-S Trackers are: > > > > Opus 1519 - Dr. Bess Heironymus in San Antonio, TX - built by = Laukhuff - > 2m/? > > ? > > > > Opus 1525 - Church of the Transfiguration, Episcopal, Dallas, TX - = 2/18 > > > > Opus 1527 - First Church of Christ, Old North Church, Marblehead, MA = - 2/31 > > > > Opus 1528 - Cox Chapel, Highland Park UMC, Dallas, TX - built by > > Laukhuff - 2m/?? > > > > > In addition to the early Skinner trackers, I'd also be interested in = seeing > the specs of these A-S trackers. Anyone got 'em? > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian - Skinner Trackers From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:08:30 EDT   There is a Sipe/Aeolian-Skinner in Bowling Green, KY. It is a fair sized 2man. of about 25 ranks with a detatched console. I'm not totally sure, = but think it is at the First Presbyterian Church.  
(back) Subject: Re: NATL SHRINE KILGEN REDEDICATION (x post) From: "Ed Kolcz" <kolcz@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:44:59 -0400   To all:   I just wanted to drop a post here regarding the National Shrine of the = Little Flower.   I was in attendance for the rededication concert as well as the entire = weekend and I must say that I am very proud of the restoration of this magnificent Kilgen. Tom Hazelton's mastery showed = off what this organ was designed to do. The organ is equally at home with = traditional and contemporary liturgy.   I grew up studying on this organ in the late 1960's and early 1970's when = I was in my late teens and early 20's and was the organist for 6 years under = (then music director of 24 years) Stanley Degorski. After Mr. Degorski = resigned from the Shrine in early 1974, I became the interim Music Director until my resignation in December of 1974. At the time, the entire organ worked = however it was evident that it was going to need a major renovation very soon. The = capture action was very sluggish and required constant attention. In some cases, = it was un-repairable due to the non-availability of replacement parts. = Considering that the organ was in daily use (in fact, several times a day) since it = was installed, it certainly survived the test of time and engineering of the = day. In approx. 1973, I came in to play for one of the daily Masses and = experienced a multitude of ciphers. I discovered that a roof leak had damaged much of = the choir division. The church at the time did not have the funds available = to repair the damage so the choir division was shut-off. Well, this was the beginning of the end for the Kilgen. Over the next 20 years, the organ = was somehow kept functioning until it could function no more.   Approximately July of 1999, I was surfing the internet using one of the = search engines. I was not searching for anything to do with organs or churches. Perhaps I was looking for flowers. and the name 'Shrine of the Little = Flower' came up as a hit. The site belonged to Pole and Kingham pipe organ = builders. I learned from their web site ( http://www.pandk.com ) that they were = contracted to restore the Kilgen. I e-mailed them indicating that I was a former = organist there. They put me in touch with current music director Scott Fappiano = and he and I have been corresponding ever since exchanging information regarding = the Kilgen. Scott then invited me to the re-dedication concert. As the = former organist of the Shrine, I can tell you first hand the magnificent job = that was done to restore the organ. In many ways it is better than before. Wind pressures are back up to specs, the Peterson swell engines now completely = open the shutters as compared to about 75-80% as originally engineered, the = Peterson capture action and relay system is extremely responsive, and probably for = the first time in 40+ years, the entire organ is in tune and properly voiced.   Although I have lived in South Florida for 26 years, I still have a = special place in my heart for the organ and the church. This past weekend has = brought back many wonderful memories.   I want to take a moment here and publicly commend and express my = heartfelt THANK YOU and JOB WELL DONE to all those involved in restoring this grand = and glorious Kilgen especially Monsignor Easton, Scott Foppiano, Bill and = Ethel Dixon, Donald Pole of Pole and Kingham Pope Organs and many others who = recognized it's historical value and supported this project. May the grand Kilgen = once again serve all the faithful people of the National Shrine of the Little = Flower and it's visitors for centuries to come.   Please take the time whenever you're in the Detroit area to visit the = National Shrine of the Little Flower and see one of the finest examples of Art Deco architecture, hear this magnificent instrument, and the fine choirs under = the direction of Scott Foppiano and his associate Robert Abbott. Directions = to the Shine can be found in their web site: http://www.shrinechurch.com   Edward I. Kolcz Music Director - St. Luke Catholic Church Coconut Creek, Florida (former Organist and Music Director of the Shrine of the Little Flower)       ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > Friday night, June 16, saw over 1600 fill the National Shrine of the = Little > Flower in Royal Oak, MI for the ceremony and recital of rededication of = the > 1933 Grand Kilgen pipe organ. > > The event was opened with the singing (ever so robustly I might add) of = "All > Creatures of Our God and King" sung to the tune of Laast Uns Erfreuen > followed by the ceremony of blessing and homily of the Reverend = Monsignor > William H. Easton, Pastor. Among other things included in his wonderful > homily was the story of Fr. Coughlin building the church and his dream = of a > comprehensive world class pipe organ right in the center of it all = leading > liturgy. He also spoke of the importance of music in our liturgies and = the > important position the instrument has in our church, worship and = community. > > Tom Hazleton was introduced and played the following program: > > Dedication ("Thru the Looking Glass" Suite) by Deems Taylor > -arranged by Charles Courboin > > Partita on "Christ Ist Erstanden" by Richard Purvis > 1. Prelude > 2. Canzone > 3. Capriccio > 4. Lento > 5. Toccata > > Concerto No. 4 in F (I. Allegro) by G.F. Handel > -transcribed by Charles Courboin > > Pavane by Robert Elmore > > "Music for the Royal Fireworks" Suite by G.F. Handel > (played in duet by Tom Hazleton and Scott Foppiano on dual consoles) > 1. Overture > 2. The Rejoicing > 3. The Peace > 4. Bourree > 5. Minuet Finale > > Adagio (from Symphonie 6) by Charles Marie Widor > > Scherzo (from Symphonie 2) by Louis Vierne > > Fantasy and Fugue in c minor by J.S. Bach > -arranged by Virgil Fox/Tom Hazleton > > Encore: Fanfare by Nicholas Jacques Lemmens > (played in duet by Tom Hazleton and Scott Foppiano at dual consoles) > > Visiting dignitaries included many clergy from the Detroit Archdiocese, = Susan > Kilgen-Carie (great grandaughter of george Kilgen), Allen Scirancko = (Kilgen > Historian from St. Louis), Edward Kolcz (former assistant organist and > director of music at Shrine) from Florida and many others. Individuals = who > worked on the project in attendance included Donald Pole (Pole and = Kingham > Pipe Organs) from Chatham, Ontario, Canada and David Fabry and Joseph = Poland > (Fabry, Inc- curators of the Kilgen Organ in the National Shrine of the > little Flower) from Fox Lake, ILL. > > In short- all who were here are saying that the organ has never sounded = this > good and the instrument has breathed a new breath of fresh air into out > worship and church. As usual, anyone finding themselves in the area is > welcome to come see the organ. > > Scott F. Foppiano, Director of Music and Liturgical Coordination > National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Left, Right From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:30:22 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3044262622_6184079_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   > From: Bob Elms <elmsr@albanyis.com.au> > Subject: Re: Happy Clappy! on the left and right > > I have just replied to someone who claimed that the "clappy-happies" = were left > wing and a tool of the Devil. Now we are told they are products of the = far > right, which leads me to the conclusion that some, at least, of their = critics > have not much knowledge of the subject they are sounding off about.   Bob, I've often puzzled about this, for years, and I still haven't figured it out. Surely we can say that, for example, the Russian Orthodox and the conservative wing of Roman Catholicism are on the "right" end of the spectrum. And that Presbyterians and most Methodists and Lutherans are somewhere in the middle. And that Unitarians and liberal Methodists, and UCC folks, probably lean to the left. I'd put the Baptists down on the left, too, as being the more extreme form of "reformed" churches. That = is, their reformation went farther (was less conservative) than the = reformation of the Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc.   So far, that works for me. BUT then comes the problem you mention: A = whole lot of theologically non-conservative Baptists (maybe most?) are, in fact, POLITICALLY rather far right, and, in fact, are genuinely conservative theologically as well. Their conservatism is not historic, perhaps, but it's a kind of conservatism anyway. It's like a warp in the spectrum = we're looking at. They are into scriptural inerrancy, etc., which is certainly not a liberal trait.   Anybody know how to resolve this? Do we have to recreate the spectrum so it's two or three dimensional rather than just linear?   Alan Freed     --MS_Mac_OE_3044262622_6184079_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Left, Right</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> &gt; From: Bob Elms &lt;<FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#0000FF"><U>elmsr@albanyis.com.au</U><=3D /FONT>&gt;<BR> &gt; Subject: Re: Happy Clappy! on the left and right<BR> &gt; <BR> &gt; I have just replied to someone who claimed that the = &quot;clappy-happi=3D es&quot; were left<BR> &gt; wing and a tool of the Devil. Now we are told they are products of = the=3D far<BR> &gt; right, which leads me to the conclusion that some, at least, of their = =3D critics<BR> &gt; have not much knowledge of the subject they are sounding off = about.<BR=3D > <BR> Bob, I've often puzzled about this, for years, and I still haven't figured = =3D it out. &nbsp;Surely we can say that, for example, the Russian Orthodox = and =3D the conservative wing of Roman Catholicism are on the &quot;right&quot; = end =3D of the spectrum. &nbsp;And that Presbyterians and most Methodists and = Luther=3D ans are somewhere in the middle. &nbsp;And that Unitarians and liberal = Metho=3D dists, and UCC folks, probably lean to the left. &nbsp;I'd put the = Baptists =3D down on the left, too, as being the more extreme form of = &quot;reformed&quot=3D ; churches. &nbsp;That is, their reformation went farther (was less = conserva=3D tive) than the reformation of the Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc.<BR> <BR> So far, that works for me. &nbsp;BUT then comes the problem you mention: = &n=3D bsp;A whole lot of theologically non-conservative Baptists (maybe most?) = are=3D , in fact, POLITICALLY rather far right, and, in fact, are genuinely = conserv=3D ative theologically as well. &nbsp;Their conservatism is not historic, = perha=3D ps, but it's a kind of conservatism anyway. &nbsp;It's like a warp in the = sp=3D ectrum we're looking at. &nbsp;They are into scriptural inerrancy, etc., = whi=3D ch is certainly not a liberal trait. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Anybody know how to resolve this? &nbsp;Do we have to recreate the = spectrum=3D so it's two or three dimensional rather than just linear? &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Alan Freed<BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3044262622_6184079_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Need help with an e-organ problem From: <MickBerg@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:32:26 EDT   Very often a cold solder joint will cause unwanted radio reception, as the =   joint becames a diode of sorts and de-modulates the RF signal. So check = for bad solder joints in the amplifier areas of the organ. Mick Berg.  
(back) Subject: RE: Left, Right From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:26:06 -0500   This doesn't look a whole lot like a topical discussion to me.... Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Alan Freed [mailto:afreed0904@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 11:30 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Left, Right        
(back) Subject: Re: Left, Right From: <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:32:05 -0400 (EDT)   Anytime you begin to put a label on something, it immediately becomes obsolete (i.e., traditional music vs. contemporary, liberal vs. conservative). For that matter, sacred and secular often get blurred.   What REALLY counts is: Is the church preaching the gospel? Is it reaching out in some way to its community? Are people being fed spiritually? Is the music appropriate to the worship and well done?   Those churches that cannot bring themselves to mention Jesus frankly ought not be called churches, period. And there are plenty in every denom. that fit that "mold".   BUT, there are many churches that have purposed to be all that the Lord wants them to be, or are at least working toward that goal. These are the places that deserve our prayers and our presence, our gifts and our service.   Fine organs do not good churches make.   I'm done waxing for now. Peace to you all.   Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Need help with an e-organ problem From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:43:15 -0500   >Very often a cold solder joint will cause unwanted radio reception, as = the >joint becames a diode of sorts and de-modulates the RF signal. So check = for >bad solder joints in the amplifier areas of the organ. >Mick Berg. > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Also look for broken shield wires in that same general area. Especially if there are multipin connectors involved. Sometimes wiggling the cables will lead you to the culprit - problems comes and goes.   John V      
(back) Subject: My Love is like a Red Red Rose From: "Colin Hulme" <colin_hulme@lineone.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:03:55 +0100   Hi Listers, I have a recording of the above taken from a theatre organ broadcast in the early 60's. The arrangement is in the form of a free fantasy.I have also heard this same arrangement played by a light orchestra. The local music shops are unable to make any suggestions re the arranger.I wonder if anyone on the list could make any suggestions?   Cheers,   Colin.    
(back) Subject: Re: Left, Right From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:02:55 EDT   In a message dated 6/19/00 12:31:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, afreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > Anybody know how to resolve this? Do we have to recreate the spectrum = so > it's two or three dimensional rather than just linear? I think the way to resolve this is to stop putting people into categories, =   and labeling everyone as though all in a particular group think one way. =   Many people straddle categories. I've been told that I'm a very strange "snakebelly," in that I love Morning Prayer AND solemn high Eucharist with =   incense. I'm also polically conservative on some issues and very liberal = on others. The idea that everyone must fit into one category is very.... um... well.... er...   ECUMENICAL!!!! hehehehehehehe   Bruce .. . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502  
(back) Subject: Re: Left, Right From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:13:48 -0700   Ditto ... I'm a somewhere-to-the-left-of-Mao / liturgically and musically conservative Anglo-Catholic. Figure THAT one out! (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   > In a message dated 6/19/00 12:31:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > afreed0904@earthlink.net writes: > > > Anybody know how to resolve this? Do we have to recreate the spectrum = so > > it's two or three dimensional rather than just linear? > I think the way to resolve this is to stop putting people into = categories, > and labeling everyone as though all in a particular group think one way. > Many people straddle categories. I've been told that I'm a very strange > "snakebelly," in that I love Morning Prayer AND solemn high Eucharist = with > incense. I'm also polically conservative on some issues and very = liberal on > others. The idea that everyone must fit into one category is very.... > um... well.... er... > > ECUMENICAL!!!! hehehehehehehe > > Bruce > . . . .in the Beagles' Nest with the Baskerbeagles > Molly, Duncan, and Miles Cremona502@cs.com > HOWLING ACRES: http://ourworld.cs.com/Brucon502 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Dizzy Hall From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@home.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:20:55 -0500   How wonderful that an organization like Disney has seen fit not only to install a sizeable pipe organ in an entertainment facility which will be used by large numbers of people who might never otherwise even hear a pipe organ -- but also has ensured that it be a visually vibrant, exciting installation. Not all pipe organs need be "serious" or somehow "respectable". Some, like the Disney installation, should be entertainment and just fun. Yea, Disney!!!   Russ Greene Pipe organ lover for over 40 years Visual designer for almost as long   -------   On 6/6/00 6:35 PM, SProt82850@cs.com wrote:   > Greetings pipechat list! > > My understanding of the Disney disaster (and you thought the Titanic was > something!) is that the architect Frank Gehry designed that "box of > McDonald's french fries" and that it is indeed a collaboration between > Rosales and Glatter-Gotz. As G-G turns out some very innovative looking > organs (I've yet to hear a new one in person so I cannot comment on = their > tonal qualities), I was horrified to hear that they let an architect, of = all > people, design the facade! > > As an organ designer myself, but not an authority on visual design by = any > means, my own reaction to the Disney design and the apparent need to be > unprecedented can best be summed up in the words of Lady Astor on the > Titanic: "I rang for ice, but this is ridiculous!" > > Steven > (humble) visual designer for Reuter (and trying hard...)    
(back) Subject: Re: Left, Right From: <JKVDP@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:20:06 EDT   Is there anything to this theory?   In North America, those who are theologically liberal tend to be the "Fundies" on organs....mechanical action, hysteric temperaments, wobbly = wind, etc, whereas the theologically conservative people often enjoy the broader-based modern instruments including sophisticated captures, = elaborate expression devices, MIDI modules.   Exceptions to this theory of course include MO. and WI. Synod Lutherans = and desertBob. Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Need help with an e-organ problem From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:24:07 -0400   I used to play a pipe organ at a little church on East Capitol St. near = the Maryland border. We were just north of some pretty raunchy housing projects. Sometimes in mid-service, the sound system would pick up police car transmissions as they headed for Eastgate: "Car 207, holding suspect at 57th & B, need ambulance . . ."   At 08:04 PM 6/18/00 +0000, Desert Bob wrote: >At 08:15 PM 6/18/2000 -0400, you wrote: >>Anyway, when I turned the organ on yesterday morning to practice a bit, >>coming through the speakers I heard the news from our radio station = which >>is on the tower of the Church which is right behind our house.<snip> > >Common problem.